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(News Asia)   Scientist says new treatments could let humans live for centuries. Expect everyone will die in riots that ensue from lack of food   (channelnewsasia.com ) divider line
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2004-03-05 10:35:02 AM  
Props to submitter. Nice headline

But who wouldn't consider taking such medicine?
 
2004-03-05 10:37:21 AM  
Louis Wu unavailable for comment.

/somewhat obscure?
 
2004-03-05 10:37:33 AM  
Soylent Green will take care of those food problems, methinks.
 
2004-03-05 10:37:35 AM  
There can be only one.
 
2004-03-05 10:38:56 AM  
Alexei Sayle wrote a short story about a medicine that led to eternal life. It was in the sequel to Barcelona Plates. Can't remember it's name though.
Great book.
 
2004-03-05 10:39:42 AM  
Whether 30 years old or 500 years old, most people will still be idiots.
 
2004-03-05 10:40:48 AM  
Shoot me up! I'll be the guina pig. I want to live forever. Long enough to find the Ring World where we all can live. No crossbuster, not too obscure.
 
2004-03-05 10:41:42 AM  
It will be interesting to see just how far a female breast will sag. There has to be some equation that can determine the correlation between age and boob droopage.
 
2004-03-05 10:42:04 AM  
Hmm, sounds a lot like the new Resident Evil movie.
 
2004-03-05 10:42:06 AM  
there can be only one
 
2004-03-05 10:42:11 AM  
Riots over the lack of food, water and most importantly oil...coming soon to a planet near you.
 
2004-03-05 10:43:05 AM  
/runs off to begin stockpiling Limited Edition cans of Spam
 
2004-03-05 10:43:08 AM  
wow 10 minutes behind
you'd think i'd read the posts first
all 9 of them
 
2004-03-05 10:44:20 AM  
All Botox jokes aside, it would be interesting to see if this could repair damaged nerve cells. While we can't currently fix them directly, forcing the body into creating new ones to replace the damaged ones could work.
 
2004-03-05 10:45:37 AM  
we can actually reset the clock and take old cells and make them act like young cells

The old cells respond to the treatment by divorcing their wives, buying sports cars, and dating stupid blonde cells half their age.
 
2004-03-05 10:46:07 AM  
prereq of the treatment is sterilization... or at least it better be.
 
2004-03-05 10:49:16 AM  
Ageing?
 
2004-03-05 10:50:30 AM  
When the riots come, the ones with the guns will survive.

Seriously, even though it was unpopular, the one child rule in China was a step towards the inevidable. Someday we will need to implement population control in the world. There is no need to be poping out 5 kids per family anymore. Even though religion discourages contraception, they also discouraged the idea that the earth orbits the sun a few centuries back.

When I talked to Galileo he said it was only a matter of time before the truth was accepted. I told him that just like Jesus the truth would be accepted, let me tell you about him. One time he accidently turned the dead sea into wine, man we partied for a month. Opps I have said too much.
 
2004-03-05 10:50:34 AM  
Would AARP *still* opposing raising the SS eligibility age?
 
2004-03-05 10:50:49 AM  
OK. NOW IT'S TIME TO STOP HAVING SO MANY FARKING CHILDREN!!

I'm looking at you, India, Malaysia, China. Why the fark do have to have so many children?

Anyone in the US (or the world) who has more than 2 children is just an asshole at this point.

As an aside, Go, Scientists, Go!!! :D

I have been predicting since the '80s that we will discover immortality by 2020.
 
2004-03-05 10:51:38 AM  
well, i suppose this gives red sox fans hope for seeing a world series
 
SGF
2004-03-05 10:51:57 AM  
Just think... The bicentennial of Oprah.

/yippy
 
2004-03-05 10:52:01 AM  
Just what the world needs right now. More people like Dick Clark. Thank you, science.
 
2004-03-05 10:56:07 AM  
Although not exactly a religious article, I have a feeling Bevets might show up for this one.
 
2004-03-05 10:59:19 AM  
now,a few questions come up to be discussed seriously. One, cost. The likelyhood is that even when the treatment becomes available, if you dont make at least 500k a year, you wont be able to afford it. And you know insurance wont cover it. If its a simple injection that can be stolen, there would be one hell of a black market. if it SHOULD become widely available somehow, would there (and should there) be laws stating who can take it and who cant. and what affect will it have on the concept of interstellar travel?
 
2004-03-05 10:59:22 AM  
Why not just ask Dick Clark what he uses.
 
2004-03-05 11:00:14 AM  
Good thing dogs are now more popular than kids.

ZipBeep, your prediction was close to mine. I always thought people would find out about immortality by watching 20/20.
 
IMD
2004-03-05 11:01:32 AM  
Please: let the baby boomers die before we unleash this.
 
2004-03-05 11:04:20 AM  
I can think of any number of super powers I'd rather have scientists working on.
 
2004-03-05 11:04:47 AM  
Life sucks, Why stretch it out?
 
2004-03-05 11:06:45 AM  
Oh... GOD no. I'm ramping up to two packs a day, effective immediately.
 
2004-03-05 11:08:04 AM  
Living for centuries is sooooo overated...

[image from membres.lycos.fr too old to be available]
 
cdo
2004-03-05 11:10:01 AM  
Fame! I'm gonna live forever! I wanna learn how to fly! HIGH!
 
2004-03-05 11:11:22 AM  
IMD


Please: let the baby boomers die before we unleash this


totally
 
2004-03-05 11:12:20 AM  
"We're altering the amount of gene expression and in skin cell tissue in the labratory we can actually reset the clock and take old cells and make them act like young cells," he told his superiors at the Umbrella Corp.
 
2004-03-05 11:12:39 AM  
crossbuster
One ringworld reference noted.

There is some stuff on the market that should help, and an artificial anti-oxidant in develpment that (if it just doesn't kill you) has potential.

Maxim is developing a histomine that will regrow liver cells.

Ok, now for my obscure ref:

*S*O*M*E* *P*E*O*P*L*E* *N*O*W* *A*L*I*V*E* *W*I*L*L* *L*I*V*E* *F*O*R*E*V*E*R*

The author will do fine.
 
2004-03-05 11:13:33 AM  
at umbrella corporation, life is our business...
 
2004-03-05 11:14:45 AM  
Beat ya to it glomund
 
2004-03-05 11:15:50 AM  
:)
 
2004-03-05 11:17:31 AM  
Larry Niven?

Louis Wu?

Ringworld?

Sign me up for eternal life.
 
2004-03-05 11:18:35 AM  
Meh, it's not like it'll keep you from getting lung cancer, killing your liver, or getting hit by a bus.

What he's saying would theoretically keep your cells from aging, but you'ld still have to avoid things that could kill you.

Who want's that?
 
2004-03-05 11:21:57 AM  
Wow, and I thought blue hairs drove bad now!
 
mtt
2004-03-05 11:22:10 AM  
There need be no shortage of food on this planet. There is enough land to grow enough food to feed everyone. It's just that some people think the poor deserve to die. I'm not saying that's right or wrong, just the notion is wrong that in our population or larger, people must die due to starvation.
 
2004-03-05 11:23:30 AM  
Hell, if this was even remotely affordable, I'd do the treatment right now.

I'd love to live to see a permanent Martian colony. That would be cool.

Downside: all those taxes the gov't will get from me in the next 300 years would blow.
 
2004-03-05 11:25:05 AM  
MTT
Where's the profit in food sales if enough food is made available for everyone?

"The free market isn't all that free"
 
2004-03-05 11:27:28 AM  
mtt

There probably is enough food to feed everyone _now_. When/if people stop dying there won't be. Especially with us Americans eating and wasting so damn much of it... heh.
 
2004-03-05 11:28:12 AM  
Sound great but this medicine should be available to Atheists...

Keeping God waiting makes him mad. That's what he told me last night.

Over drinks.

In a bar.

Downtown.

/sooooo got nuthin'
 
2004-03-05 11:29:25 AM  
Actually, the human lifespan wouldn't be infinite, or even into the thousands of years. In most of the programs I have seen and literature I have read on the subject of human longevity, the maximum human lifespan--on average--would statistically top out at about 500-700 years. The reason being that even if you manage to stop aging and create some fantastic immunity to all disease, you can't eliminate accidents. In a lifespan of centuries, your chances of falling victim to accidental death increase exponentially. Even really improbable encounters (lightning strike, shark attack, plane crash, or someone nudging their poodle off a 75th story balcony on to your head [thanks Denis Leary]) become much more likely.

Nevertheless, we'd still need some serious Social Security reform.
 
2004-03-05 11:29:49 AM  
Makes me wonder, how "full" can your brain get? Does it overwrite memories? If you are 1,000 years old, can you remember when you were 10?
 
2004-03-05 11:30:43 AM  
Dang it, how the heck do we solve a food crisis like that? Does anyone remember the name of that guy with all those fish sandwiches?

/subtle/
 
2004-03-05 11:33:19 AM  
Stop making babies.
 
Ant
2004-03-05 11:35:46 AM  
2004-03-05 10:37:21 AM crossbuster


Louis Wu unavailable for comment.

/somewhat obscure?


Ringworld?
 
2004-03-05 11:37:27 AM  
A ringworld is completely unstable, it wouldn't stay around it's parent star, neither would a Dysan Sphere. What you need is a whole lot of satellites in orbit in the stars habitable zone, that would be perfect.
 
2004-03-05 11:38:19 AM  
Um...wouldn't more people on the planet mean more people to dontae blood?
 
2004-03-05 11:38:51 AM  
Hmm.. think I'll have to pass on this one. Whether there's a God or not, I don't want to be stuck on this hole of a planet for centuries. My goal is to kick off just before my kids toss me in a nursing home and I'm forced to wear diapers.

/crossing fingers
 
Bf+
2004-03-05 11:39:02 AM  
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Whats your point?
 
2004-03-05 11:40:14 AM  
I for one welcome our very supple Overlords who will still tell me to get off their lawns!

Seriously, will we allow inmates with life sentences to get the treatment? Would not being allowed to recieve the treatment allow someone a "get out of jail free" card?

Eternal life or cloning. Pick one or the other, not both!
 
2004-03-05 11:40:23 AM  
We went from this scientific discovery to talking about ringworlds, here is my advice:

Stop playing all that Halo.
 
2004-03-05 11:40:48 AM  
[image from funnyclicks.com too old to be available]
 
2004-03-05 11:42:07 AM  
Okay, ponder this:

When you are 30 years old you have a daughter.

You have a falling out and she moves away.

700 years later you meet an enchanting girl on a vacation in France... she is 500 years old and looks vaguely familiar, but hey, so does pretty much everyone after 700 years. Besides it doesn't matter, you both look like you're in your mid-twenties.

You make sweet sweet love in the vinyards, and eventually you get to talking about your lives, and soon discover that she is your granddaughter!

Creepy.

Could happen.
 
2004-03-05 11:48:34 AM  
Can you imagine the stories people would be telling their great-great-great-great grandkids?

"Back in my day we had to ride our hoverboards uphill both ways to school!"

But I am lame (and bored). Anyone else got anything?
 
2004-03-05 11:50:28 AM  
It's too bad NASA didn't find water on Mars earlier, then all of our hunger problems would be moot, since everyone would be dining on free giant shrimps.
 
2004-03-05 11:54:04 AM  
ECIF, that already happens in Kentucky.
 
2004-03-05 11:58:26 AM  
The ringworld and the ringworld engineers were novels that also explored extreme long life and the consiquences of same.

I am betting that the novel I referenced (which explores the same issues) is more obscure. Here is a hint.

The author also wrote a rather clever take off of the king in yellow.

(I would have done the yellow sign here but evidently font color is an html tag currently beyond me.)
 
2004-03-05 11:59:27 AM  
But really, all people really want is an extension to their 15 minutes of fame. Then Jessica & Nick could be cute and pointless foreeeeeeever!

/got thousands of years of nuthin!
 
2004-03-05 12:00:53 PM  
It is becoming clear that in my old age I am forgeting how to spell.

Sorry.
 
2004-03-05 12:01:27 PM  
I already eat Soybeans and Lentils often, so when the Authorities begin rendering people as Soylent Green, I'll be one of the first whistleblowers!

/solent green is people!
 
2004-03-05 12:03:48 PM  
Its interesting but one way or another we will die, ensuing overcrowding and the diseases and food shortages will make short work of any fantasies about living 500 years.

On the other hand this could very well be a huge improvement for space travel, where living space and not having a ship full of skeletons flying around is a concern.
 
2004-03-05 12:05:16 PM  
Anyone read the book "Marrow" by Robert Reed. Basicly it brings up the concept of "bioceramics." That is, tissue does not decompose when dead and as long as your brain survives you can be wired up to another (cloned) body. Also you have "super healing". Losse a hand in a circular saw, wait an hour and you will have a new one. THAT would be the imortality I want.

Anybody else read this book?
 
2004-03-05 12:15:11 PM  
Since we are discussing Ringworld, has anyone discovered the "luck" gene yet?
 
2004-03-05 12:15:28 PM  
Social Security is definately Farked now...
 
2004-03-05 12:17:14 PM  
All Botox jokes aside, it would be interesting to see if this could repair damaged nerve cells. While we can't currently fix them directly, forcing the body into creating new ones to replace the damaged ones could work.

If that will get Christopher Reeve to quit pimping himself out for more research for his own self interest, I'm all for it.
 
2004-03-05 12:23:24 PM  
Cthulus_Toaster

We went from this scientific discovery to talking about ringworlds, here is my advice:

Stop playing all that Halo.


nobody's talking about halo.
 
2004-03-05 12:23:49 PM  
Losse a hand in a circular saw, wait an hour and you will have a new one. THAT would be the imortality I want.

Anybody else read this book?


[image from comicskins.com too old to be available]

Yup.
 
2004-03-05 12:27:00 PM  
"In a lifespan of centuries, your chances of falling victim to accidental death increase exponentially. Even really improbable encounters (lightning strike, shark attack, plane crash, or someone nudging their poodle off a 75th story balcony on to your head [thanks Denis Leary]) become much more likely."

Unless that was a joke, you're really wrong. People wouldn't all of a sudden die by accident just because they're older. It will be the same chance as it is now (barring better safety etc.) but the statistics won't change on their own just because you're older. They can't raise "exponentially" like that. That's like saying just because I'm older coins will land on heads more than tails for me. Just doesn't make sense.

But otherwise I agree, even with anti aging, very few would probably live past 300 years, if we're talking our current society.

It's tough to say what the future will hold though, what if in the future we have the option of living in almost industructible robotic exoskeletons? Or maybe even live life virtually where our body will be safely tucked away in some high security facility.
 
2004-03-05 12:27:00 PM  
I would be cutting off my hands like crazy just to watch them grow back.

*somewhere, John Bobbitt smiles*
 
2004-03-05 12:29:28 PM  
Actually, the human lifespan wouldn't be infinite, or even into the thousands of years. In most of the programs I have seen and literature I have read on the subject of human longevity, the maximum human lifespan--on average--would statistically top out at about 500-700 years. The reason being that even if you manage to stop aging and create some fantastic immunity to all disease, you can't eliminate accidents. In a lifespan of centuries, your chances of falling victim to accidental death increase exponentially. Even really improbable encounters (lightning strike, shark attack, plane crash, or someone nudging their poodle off a 75th story balcony on to your head [thanks Denis Leary]) become much more likely.

Nevertheless, we'd still need some serious Social Security reform


That doesn't make alot of sense. The odds don't change as you age. The statistical odds of one getting struck by lightning are the same whether you're 1 or a 1000 years old. Same for your other accidents. The odds are even less when one takes even a slight amount of caution.


But your right, we do need to fix the social security system...
 
2004-03-05 12:31:37 PM  
Anybody remember the name of the Vonnegut short story that covered this?
 
2004-03-05 12:32:22 PM  
"Makes me wonder, how "full" can your brain get? Does it overwrite memories? If you are 1,000 years old, can you remember when you were 10?"

That's a very interesting question, one I've wondered about. I think, right now anyway, that our maximum memory is around and on average 50 years. After that it get's too distorted that only your dreams can use them. But in the future we'll probably have some methods for better memory, whether through discipline or adding brain tissue.

On another note, there has been evidence that we can/do take everything in around us, know the words on a page without reading it, just by looking at it, which suggests our brain is more of a filter than a recorder. See synesthesia case studies of words into color.
 
2004-03-05 12:32:30 PM  
Go the rich!!

you PWN that life thing.
 
2004-03-05 12:36:59 PM  
Beat you Just Jim.
 
2004-03-05 12:44:55 PM  
And this is a new revelation!?? "Humans could live for hundreds of years as scientists develop treatments to "cure" old age like any other disease" - no duh.
 
2004-03-05 12:46:32 PM  
Cache-22
I saw that... and wept. It's all good though, I was hoping someone else would call BS on that post.
 
2004-03-05 12:49:34 PM  
Send the overpopulation to Red Mars!
 
2004-03-05 12:53:36 PM  
Highlander in a bottle, sounds good to me !!!!!
 
2004-03-05 12:58:19 PM  
No discussion on human immortality is complete without the classic insanity of Alex Chiu.
 
2004-03-05 01:00:32 PM  
"Send the overpopulation to Red Mars!"

yeah, we'll send all the old people to Mars. Next up: Mars to be renamed Florida II
 
2004-03-05 01:11:51 PM  
The idea of living for hundreds of years is selfish. Death is a part of living.

/Don't fear the reaper
 
2004-03-05 01:14:24 PM  
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2004-03-05 01:14:35 PM  
It's a bit ironic that the people who want to live forever are the same ones who have never done anything productive with the lives anyway...
 
2004-03-05 01:14:48 PM  
We're all gonna die!!!!!


/maybe not
 
2004-03-05 01:15:08 PM  
The answer to the population problem is more oral sex.

next question please.
 
2004-03-05 01:17:23 PM  
BurnJ, I take it you refuse all medical treatment and medicines, as that would extend your life.
 
2004-03-05 01:19:13 PM  
Louis Wu?

The answer to the population problem is more oral sex.


!!!

Anyone up for some rishathra?
 
2004-03-05 01:19:20 PM  
Get your ass to Mars!
 
2004-03-05 01:20:36 PM  
Another problem with this idea is the fact that even if they could reset certain cells, it's going to be a hell of a lot more difficult to reset your brain without damage, etc. So after 100 years or so your brain is going to be mush.
 
2004-03-05 01:25:55 PM  
There's no time for us
There's no place for us
What is this thing that builds our dreams yet slips away
from us

Who wants to live forever
Who wants to live forever....?

There's no chance for us
It's all decided for us
This world has only one sweet moment set aside for us

Who wants to live forever
Who wants to live forever?

Who dares to love forever?
When love must die

But touch my tears with your lips
Touch my world with your fingertips
And we can have forever
And we can love forever
Forever is our today
Who wants to live forever
Who wants to live forever?
Forever is our today

Who waits forever anyway?
 
2004-03-05 01:31:50 PM  
What's the memory capacity of the human brain anyway? Just as a guess, it wouldn't be that much, as we're not really designed to live that long anyway. My guess is that soon after 150 years or so, most everyone would start experiencing some pretty bad memory problems.

The blow to the economy would be bad. Seniors generally have nasty habits of 1. voting themselves into money and 2. voting in record numbers. But people would probably be productive almost their whole lives, and would most likely come out of retirement when they realize they hadn't planned on paying for being retired for 500 years...but if they're just going to be alive and unproductive, hello 90% taxation for the rest of us.
 
2004-03-05 01:33:42 PM  
neurochemistry is my specialty.

the honest answer. we dont know. memories dont take a proportional amount of space, we dont understand quite how they're stored. however, evidence states that new memories get stored as a form of cross refference to previous memories, therefore, as you get older, memory takes less room to add.
 
2004-03-05 01:37:05 PM  
I don't wanna live forever unless I can have the body I had in my 20's.. naked 500 year old.. ewwwww
 
2004-03-05 01:40:20 PM  
Hehe... he's talking about living an ultra-long time... and his name is Fossel... Yes, I know it's not spelled right. But it's STILL funny... ok, it's not


I tried... I really did
 
2004-03-05 01:53:28 PM  
icecycle
*S*O*M*E* *P*E*O*P*L*E* *N*O*W* *A*L*I*V*E* *W*I*L*L* *L*I*V*E* *F*O*R*E*V*E*R*

That sounds like Alfred Bester.
 
2004-03-05 01:54:06 PM  
MikeWeath, I said living for hundreds of years is selfish, not 28 years. I have not been in the situation where I was faced with the decision to accept medical attention that would 'save my life'. If you believe that taking any kind of medicine prolongs your life, I think you are wrong. I do not have a problem taking medicine that will treat symptoms or speed recovery from an illness, but I do not believe I would have died if I had not taken medicine. I would not choose to be kept alive longer by artificial means if I were going to die naturally.
 
2004-03-05 02:28:09 PM  
gunderdood

Very good guess, but actually no.

James Blish, the prequal to the Cities in flight novels.

To my shame, I couldn't remember the title.

"They Shall Have Stars"

That took more time on google than actually finding the book would.
 
2004-03-05 02:28:26 PM  
... you can't eliminate accidents. In a lifespan of centuries, your chances of falling victim to accidental death increase exponentially. Even really improbable encounters (lightning strike, shark attack, plane crash, or someone nudging their poodle off a 75th story balcony on to your head [thanks Denis Leary]) become much more likely. - Consular_Jedi
That doesn't make alot of sense. The odds don't change as you age. The statistical odds of one getting struck by lightning are the same whether you're 1 or a 1000 years old. Same for your other accidents. The odds are even less when one takes even a slight amount of caution. - Just Jim


It may not make sense, but it's true. Perhaps a better way of putting it is that the odds of an accident are better over a greater time span.

For example, the odds of an extinction-threatening asteroid crashing into our planet tomorrow morning are almost absurd. But over a period of 500 million years, odds are no longer a question - it will happen.
 
2004-03-05 02:30:11 PM  
ALAN GREENSPAN SURRENDERS! After analyzing the impact on social security.
 
2004-03-05 02:35:38 PM  
The odds don't increase as you age, just the chance of you surviving to a certain age decreases dramaticly over time.

Say the chance of you living through one year is .999 (1 in 1,000 die)

your chance of living 5 years is then (.999)^5 or .995
your chance of living 25 years is (.999)^25 = .9753
your chance of living 200 years is (.999)^200 = .8186
your chance of living 500 years is (.999)^500 = .6064
your chance of living 1000 years is (.999)^1000 = .3677

so, as you get older, the overall chance of survival DOES go down, but the chance of living through a given year stays the same (unless your old-age increases your chance for supidity-caused accidents)
 
2004-03-05 02:51:12 PM  
I love this stuff.

It turns out that the reason you die is because oxygen is a deadly poison!

It's actually true. Most of the primitive life on earth dies when exposed to oxygen because it is extremely chemically reactive molecule. Billions of years ago primitive life moved from an oxygen free mechanism of energy production when photosynthesis evolved. Oxygen allows us to extract more energy from our food and so gives a competitive advantage over non oxygen using life.

Most oxygen using life have tiny energy factories inside each of their cells called mitochondria. Turns out mitochondria are an almost totally self sufficient mini creatures with their own DNA seperate from the rest of the cell and they divide independently from the rest of the cellular structure. It may be that at one point they were absorbed into primitive non oxygen using cells in a symbiotic relationship (creepy).

The trade off for getting extra energy from oxygen is the need to repair unwanted damage that oxygen creates inside you by reactions called oxidation. If you leave a bunch of ground beef out on the counter unwrapped and watch it turn brown.. that is oxydation in action. Since we are essentially just a big pile of ground beef you can imagine that our lives are a constant struggle against putrification. Essentially longer life is possible if you can trick your body into spending more energy fighting oxidation.

It is a matter of genetic engineering of both mitochondria and the larger cell. Probably about 20 to 30 years away or sooner if researchers actually devote significant energy to the problem. I figure it would take about 1 billion or so to get it to work... get on it Bill Gates.

yay
 
BDZ
2004-03-05 02:56:52 PM  
In case anyone is reading this thread this far into the game, Elizabeth Moon wrote a series of linked novels that has this as a running theme. Very interesting how the older people in powere and possessing the wealth took the treatment and therefore wealth and power remained in their hands. The only thing a society can do in those circumstances is have a revolution or expand.

-BDZ
 
2004-03-05 03:04:31 PM  
crawdaddy

I can hold my breath for about seven minutes, I don't suppose that will make me live longer though.

Damn addictive crap will get you every time, the first breath is free. . .
 
2004-03-05 03:06:23 PM  
Combine this thread with the "Social Security going topheavy imminent" thread a few up, and see what you get.
 
2004-03-05 03:56:35 PM  
Time is the root cause of aging, which is why I don't keep my clock winded.

(I can hear you ooh and ahh as you fondle my bag, which remains supple beyond its years.)
 
2004-03-05 03:58:27 PM  
Heartburnkid
Wow,
Hadn't thought of that song for a while. That was the most beautiful Queen song I ever heard. As close to sappy as I get for rock tunes.

Thanks!
 
2004-03-05 04:07:04 PM  
am i alone in thinking that if the secret for eternal life was ever found that somehow some giant catastrophic natural disaster (or space caused disaster) would completely and totally wipe out the entire contents of the earth?
surely there has to be a few books in this idea.

doctor: i have done it, i have found hte exact cure for eternal life!

INCOMING GIANT METEOR..EARTH TO BE 110% DESTRYOED.

and then, we start all over.
 
2004-03-05 04:09:30 PM  
And after this, running red lights will result in your organs being harvested.

/even more obscure
 
2004-03-05 04:21:12 PM  
Maybe the stuff should come with mandatory sterlization?

Except then EVERYONE would use the live-forever treatment, then there would be nobody left to reproduce, and eventually the statistical probablity of people getting killed, as opposed to dying naturally, would result in the extinction of the species.

...

That might make a good short story, actually.
 
2004-03-05 05:00:29 PM  
shabu

I was thinking more about this Queen song:

Here we are
Born to be kings
We're the princes of the universe

I am immortal
I have inside me blood of kings
I have no rival
No man can be my equal

Take me to the future of your world
 
2004-03-05 05:08:28 PM  
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work. I want to achieve immortality by not dying."

Amen! Bring on the shiny needles!

/wishes vampires were real
 
2004-03-05 05:18:14 PM  
Do you really want to look like this?[image from english.peopledaily.com.cn too old to be available]
 
2004-03-05 05:38:23 PM  
DEEP HURTING if you ever watch star gate the series they had an episode like what your talking about.

i think that science should put this cure on the shelf, what we really need now is the cure for being hit by the comon city bus
but seriously humans were never meant to live past around the ripe old age of 45 (yeah around there) anything after that and you begin to see things that just shouldnt be happening occur like altimers(excuse the spelling plz) it really wasnt discovered until alot of ppl started to live after 75 or so i mean would you really want to live to be 5000 yrs younge if all your skin falls off when you reach the big 400th
 
2004-03-05 06:27:40 PM  
Who wants to live forever?

I would.
 
2004-03-05 06:32:23 PM  
Actually, if aging does get cured in our life times we will be the ones most to benifit from it.
We will have and be able to make more money than the young whipersnappers that come later and we will look the same.

Ask your self this: Who would you rather hook up with? Somebody that is young, immature, and poor, or sombody who is young looking, mature, and rich?
I think the choice is pretty clear; we win.
 
2004-03-05 07:59:53 PM  
Now, show us the communicable temporary vaccine for the baby virus.
 
2004-03-05 11:45:59 PM  
And the Howard Families rejoice...


(surprised no one's ref'ed that one)
 
2004-03-05 11:55:04 PM  
you begin to see things that just shouldnt be happening occur like altimers(excuse the spelling plz)

Heh. Oldtimer's Disease.

This does raise an interesting question.

This treatment, does it slow down the entire aging process from the day you take it, or does it simply extend the end?

Yeah, it would be pretty cool if you could take the stuff when you're 30...50 years later, everybody else who was born at the same time as you are old and gray, and you're not even hitting the Grecian Formula yet. By the time you get around to looking old and gray, you've seen civilizations rise and fall.

Well, maybe.

Then assume everybody started doing it.

Blammo, population explosion as noted above. Worse yet, job deflation: ya know, putting in 30 years at your job just isn't worth what it used to be. The kiddos that are waiting for you to kick the bucket so that they can be promoted? Hope they're taking the stuff too, or they'll be dead of old age well before then.

Bioaccumulation, to boot--your aging process may be slowed down, but your body is still accumulating toxins. Hope they've got that cyborg-liver problem licked too.

Could be worse, you think. It could simply extend the end. So you age as normal for the first 70 years, then hang there...decrepit for decades.
 
2004-03-06 01:01:59 AM  
[image from members.cox.net too old to be available]

You just KNOW this is not good news...
 
2004-03-06 11:13:04 AM  
I would not want to live forever. What arrogance would one have to possess to decide that that would be appropriate? I read the Social Security thread and listened to the Xer's and to a lesser extent the Der's (what have you), complain about the boomers.
Many of you made it very clear that all of us boomers should just hurry up and die and get out of your way. We're so "selfish" that we're spending OUR money on what we chose when of course, if we would just turn it over to you--you'd handle it better.
Who do you think was paying the taxes so all of you could go to school and then on to college? Who do you think laid the groundwork for the corporation you work for? Who do you think put their money in the bank so you in turn could borrow it?
No, I don't want to live forever. A couple hundred years of listening to you all snivel would force me to do the Plath.
 
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