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2004-03-05 10:20:31 AM
Tough call here. Kids misbehave in public, whine, and generally are a nuissance in any retail store or restaurant around.

Dogs on the other hand howl at night and wake up the whole neighborhood with their constant barking.

This is why I have cats. Quiet, easy to take care of, and as long as there's food in the dish, they don't bug you.
 
2004-03-05 10:32:23 AM
I think it is obvious why this is going on.

Having a dog is like having a baby that never grows up. It will always retain it's innocence and always be a loving and faithful friend. All it asks for is food, water and a walk.

Let's face it, how many of us growing up actually appreciated what our parents did and provided for us. I sure didn't? We are taught to rebel and be little bastards as a way of finding our own identity. No matter what the final result, we are still assholes for a large part of our life...many are their WHOLE life.

Dogs offer all the positive with litle to no negative.
 
2004-03-05 10:33:29 AM
To refer to your dog as your child is asinine, unless your a child playing dress up.
I love these people who say: my dogs are my kids.
I like dogs, but please give me a farking break!
There is a level of commitment that goes into both, but to compare the two is redicules.
 
2004-03-05 10:54:29 AM
I know a gay couple who got a St Bernard to make up for the lack of child-bearing ability. They called it Molly and treat it just like a child, despite the fact that it's the size of a small elephant and slobbers over everything it comes into contact with. It is the most sickening thing I've ever seen. I haven't seen them for a year or two now, I wonder if they still make it wear nappies...
 
2004-03-05 11:26:06 AM


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I think I'd have more in common with the first pic.
 
2004-03-05 12:30:33 PM
"Man gives his dog food he can spare, space he can spare, and love he can spare; in return, his dog gives him everything he has. It's the best deal man has ever made."

I've met a few kids (of a variety of ages) who were nice, interesting people to be around. Unfortunately, kids who are poster children for forced sterilization programs - both for them and their parents - are far more common. The vast majority of parents, shouldn't be. If you can't handle raising your kids to be good, kind, respectful people, perhaps you should consider something more within your capacity as a parenting figure, like guinea pigs.

My brother has 2 kids, ages 4 and 2. He and his wife have done very well, and their kids are good people. But it took a huge amount of time and effort to do it.

Most people probably don't realize the commitment involved. You have to be there all the time, or your kids are going to get farked up. Unlike a cat, you can't just let your kid wander around and play with stuff until it gets hungry, and then feed it. It just doesn't work that way.

Personally, I plan to live out my life single, with only my many cats to keep me company :)
 
2004-03-05 12:39:47 PM
I have dogs and zero plans for kids, but it would be crazy to treat my dogs as kids; I treat them as dogs. The only "people benefit" they get is to sleep on the bed because they're cuddly and don't take up too much room.
 
2004-03-05 12:43:02 PM
Well, duh! Dogs are much better than children for the following reasons:
-They are thankful for the food you give them.
-You don't have to spend money on clothes for them. They come equipped with natural jackets.
-They don't turn into teenagers and refuse to associate with you in public. Dogs grow to be loyal companions, not stuck-up biatches.
-You can neuter/spay them.
-They are MUCH easier to train.
-The crying-all-night phase passes after two weeks, not two years.
-They generally get along with other dogs. (Three words: middle school girls)
-You don't have to go through the hassle of carrying them for nine months. Some other woman does that for you.
-You aren't/your woman isn't left with unsightly strech marks. You/your woman does not run the risk of becoming overweight due to the pregnancy.
-Dogs are just a lot more adorable. Tell me, what's adorable about a bratty seven year old or an acne-plagued thirteen year old?
 
2004-03-05 12:52:09 PM
Don't be so smug, TommyPerfect. There are plenty of western europeans breeding, just check out your local WalMart. Its just that the stupid, scummy uneducated and poor ones that seem to be doing it.

Kurt Vonnegut needs to call me. We may have a problem here.
 
2004-03-05 01:02:24 PM
And that's about par for the course when it comes to electronic music in America: it can't be enjoyed by itself. In order to sell, it's got to be attached to something...a movie, a sports game, a farking car commercial, etc...it can't succeed on its own merit, there needs to be piggybacked on some otherworldly commercial venture in order to appeal over here.

Yes, America is so tasteless because it can't enjoy the subtleties of eurotrash trance.
 
2004-03-05 01:12:15 PM
Dogs make lovely pets; affectionate, loyal, intelligent and of all the domesticated animals we have made an integral part of our civilization they are truly 'man's best friend.'

However, owning a dog will do nothing to help you get your genes into the next generation. Only children can do this for you. For those of you who find this to be a repulsive concept, an 'unromantic' view of life and a selfish burden on our world's ecosystem view of life I challenge you to tell me how you've done your part to make the world a better place for the rest of us. For the life of me I do not understand people who make a conscious decision not to have kids. I have an even harder time understanding those same people who treat their pets as if they were their own children. I talk funny to my dog about as much as roughhouse with her and throw her chewtoy around to drive her nuts but she is A DOG. The anthropomorphizing of domesticated pets is f_cking ridiculous. Talk about decline of western civilization!

For those of you who use other people's bratty children as a valid enough reason to not put up with the 'inconveniences' of raising your own children please keep in mind that, more often than not, those brats are the result of poor parenting. The feminized, laissez faire attitude of modern westerners clearly lends itself to the creation of a generation of undesirable brats.
 
2004-03-05 01:26:19 PM
I agree that treating your dog like a child is a bit much, and sometimes the sweater thing goes a bit far. Example: it was raining cats and dogs here in Dallas earlier in the week and I saw a woman walking her poodle - who had a matching raincoat on. Holy cow. Then there's me (who forgot her raincoat/umbrella) and Sam (no raincoat, in her natural jacket). The poor poodle! If I tried that with Sam, I think she would sit down and refuse to go out.

If I ever win the lottery I'm buying a farm and raiding the SPCA!
 
2004-03-05 01:41:56 PM
Alright, alright, I take back the "lazy" bit from my post. I budge and apologize. I can definitely agree that it is better to not raise a child at all than to do a piss-poor job of it, whether it be due to tax bracket, maturity, or incompetence. I just couldn't believe how the overwelming majority of posts here talk about hating kids.
Peer pressure or what society says are not legitimate reasons to raise a kid, either.

Daredevil-Quatermass as someone adopted myself, my hat goes off to you, very selfless.
 
2004-03-05 01:45:16 PM
I'm going to have the best of both worlds and raise me a frisbee-toddler.
 
2004-03-05 01:47:27 PM
I struggle to keep house plants alive, pets and offspring are definitely beyond me.
 
2004-03-05 02:09:54 PM
I was going to respond to Spino in a respectful way, but I am finding it hard to keep the acid out of my tone. so I will get this off my chest and then be polite afterwards:

The feminized, laissez faire attitude of modern westerners clearly lends itself to the creation of a generation of undesirable brats.

FEMINIZED?? You're aware this makes you sound like a chauvinistic fool, right? Seriously, what the fark. That was a very moronic statement. Not to say that people aren't raising monsters that walk all over them, but I wouldn't characterize that style of bad parenting as "feminized," I would characterize it as "wimpy," or simply, "terrible." If you have the gall to tell me they're the same thing as "feminized," we can have an arm wrestling match. heeh.

Okay, that aside. *cough* I can best describe the decision to remain childless this way: Some people don't have the biological urge. I have zip zero desire to have a child. This is not just because I am terrified of pregnancy and labor (which I am). It is not even because I don't like kids (I do in most cases). It is not even that I don't have a great partner (I do!). I just look forward into my life, and...don't see a child there. I think I would be an okay parent, but I don't care to be one. I don't mind that my genes won't pass to another generation. I am not so talented/beautiful/intelligent/wonderful that the world can't do without an offspring of mine.

Simply put: I choose not to have kids because I just don't desire one. I don't go to a car dealership and order up a car I have no particular desire to own. For me, it is pretty much the same concept.
 
2004-03-05 02:47:54 PM
In further response to Spino's I challenge you to tell me how you've done your part to make the world a better place for the rest of usI do take offense at that. What have I done to better humanity? Well, started a foodsource tree planting program in a third world country, counseled battered women to help them improve their lives, and intensely study 'lost arts' such as knitting, sewing, small scale agriculture, and food presevation so as to educate others on these disappearing but useful skills.
Oh, but I haven't shat out a kid. I'm sorry. I suck. I'll go back to doing nothing for humanity. What have you done beside eject some cellular matter?
 
2004-03-05 03:06:33 PM
Yeah, that too. I teach, or will soon. But I guess I am selfish because I am only giving up my economic future to help other kids learn and have a chance in life, and not popping out a kid, which would CLEARLY be bettering the world far more.

Eesh.
 
2004-03-05 03:47:41 PM
The feminized, laissez faire attitude of modern westerners clearly lends itself to the creation of a generation of undesirable brats.

absolutely, the western world has been a huge failure. look at the kids in autocratic father-figure societies like those in the middle east. now thats real progress! they do what you tell 'em. i can never get my kids to blow up the temple.
 
2004-03-05 03:54:00 PM
[CUE: Henry Gross' "Shannon"]

OK, my family consists of my wife, two kids, 8 shetland sheepdogs, 1 ragdoll (that's a cat), and 1 holland lop. Love 'em all. Why must it be either/or??

/outside the box
 
2004-03-05 04:15:44 PM
EIGHT shelties? Wow. I bet they run the household, eh? Bloody geniuses on four paws, that breed.
 
2004-03-05 07:22:19 PM
EatTheWorld:

Hopefully that's what will happen - we've had our time on this planet, it's time to go.

Children are pollution.
 
2004-03-05 09:57:04 PM
You people can take your dogs and cats. I loathe them

I'll just be over there in the avery, playing with our feathered friends.
 
2004-03-06 12:55:56 AM
i'm almost positive this comment will not be read at this point, but oh well...

many people are born without the drive or need to reproduce. not everyone has a parenting instinct, and those of us who do not have said instinct do lead very fulfilling lives and do not need the "sympathy" of those who have kids.
very often, however, we're given not only unwanted pity, but are also seen as less.
hence the anger.

my aunt says she is "child-free", not childless. she says it gives more of a connotation of choice so she has to encounter less pity.
 
2004-03-06 01:06:11 AM
Being the chewtoy of two big hairy beasts is enough for me. I have neither the time nor the finances to raise children properly.

In the immortal words of Wanda Sikes (sp?) "People always say kids are a lot of work, but they're worth it. Funny they won't look you in the eye when they say it, though."
 
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