But does it reveal the location of the Star Gate?

So it looks like they discovered Quebec and Newfoundland
No wonder they turned around and nobody heard of the'new world' for many canturys to follow.

damn, it predates that Mormon forget who killed a bunch of people (see "The Poet and the Madman"), otherwise we could blame him for this....

'forget' of course being french for 'forger'

WHAT? THE NORSE WERE IN AMERICA BEFORE COLUMBUS? COULD THIS BE?

/tell me something I don't know, please?

I've seen piles of dog crap that look more like North America.

When what you've got is a view of the shoreline and a log of star sightings, a map of a new land could turn-out like this. While that's very skinny for the Gulf of Mexico, that does rather look like Hudson Bay.

Vinland, Vinland, Vinland,
The country where I want to be,
Pony trekking or camping,
Or just watching TV.
Vinland, Vinland, Vinland.
It's the country for me.

Sorry, that was my dog. I'll go get a bag.

Compare:

http://www.sel.barc.usda.gov/scalenet/images/canada.gif

O Vinlandia
Our home and native land
True patriot love in all thy sons command

With glowing hearts we see thee rise
The True North strong and free

From far and wide
O Vinlandia, we stand on guard for thee

God keep our land glorious and free
O Vinlandia, we stand on guard for thee

O Vinlandia, we stand on guard for thee

this map is old news and has largely been considered a hoax.

on the OTher hand, it is a well-accepted FACT that the vikings arrived in the new world in the 11th century and established an outpost. the archeological remains of this village can be seen and visited. the site is called "L'Anse Aux Meadows". do a GIS on it.

Little Known Fact #4325: The first norseman who discovered north america was lost (he was looking for greenland). Basicly the line he feed his crew was along the lines: "Well boys, this is a new continent. Thought you might like to see that. Now lets turn around and head north and east for home." They did not go ashore, not even to have a look.

It doesn't look like north america, but it kind of looks like eastern Newfoundland if you turn it on an angle slightly. But compare that to the size of Greenland..

Anyway, I'm confused.

Also, the web site for the chinese book makes no attempt to prove a thing.

At last, we have found the realm of Prester John!

2004-03-01 10:58:19 PM GreenAdder

I thought Amerigo Vespucci got here first.

Amerigo Vespucci had nothing to do with discovery, he was the first person to make accurate maps of the area. In other words, our continent is named after an asshat map maker.

What about Saint Brenden from Ireland? He went to the America's about 400 AD.

What about Saint Brenden from Ireland? He went to the America's about 400 AD

or Jesus, didnt he come here, mormons believe that right, or am i just really wrong

Maybe the US Marines "escorted" uh.. nevermind, ive got nothing.

"Obvious".

I'm majoring in archaeology with an emphasis on preColumbian history. A fantastic book called Saga America by Barry Fell, the world's leading linguist, has amazing linguistic 'evidence' that points to Atlantic crossings as early as 200BCE. I'm not going to go into this further, because it's such an extensive topic. But if you're interested there are plenty of books on the subject...Frederick J. Pohl wrote at least 5.

That landmass on the left side of the map that is supposed to be North America looks like the head of one of them Abe's Oddysee creatures. I need to stop drinking beer so late at night.

This is old news. I knew about this 600 years ago.

Lil'spider Heh, awesome :)

You can't discover America, its imposible. You must first realize there is no america.

Or something like that....

do a GIS on mercator, oronteus fineas or piri reis; they had maps showing the americas and antarctica dating back to the 16th century.

oops...meant 15th century

--MikeWeath

Pyramids in both Egypt and South America are not coincidental, they are intuitive.

To see what I mean, go to the supply closet and gather all the boxes of paperclips, staples, etc. that are approximately the same size and shape. Now build the biggest, tallest, most stable building you can. What shape is that? Dose that suggest you are in cahoots with the ancient Egyptians??

That being said, the Vikings were here long before Columbus.

The fact that they are "intuitive" does not prove there was not cross-cultural exchange of ideas regarding them. Most of the evidence that I've seen seems to make it obvious there was. All of the arguments that there was not are the ones that sound implausible.

The shape of the buildings may be "intuitive" but the manner in which a society goes about constructing them is anything but "intuitive".

Thor Heyerdahl

Olmecs

Tobacco/Coca (New World Plants) in Tombs

New World Artifacts depicting Asian/European/African Features

Wrecks at the bottom of the sea indicating trade across distances previously thought impossible

Recent "Native American" discovered with "Jean Leuc Picard" head (European Genes)

Blond haired blue-eyed islanders "discovered" by European travelers

African/Black colonies in South America

Fun stuff...good times...

/Map is still probably a fake

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To see what I mean, go to the supply closet and gather all the boxes of paperclips, staples, etc. that are approximately the same size and shape. Now build the biggest, tallest, most stable building you can. What shape is that? Dose that suggest you are in cahoots with the ancient Egyptians??

Man, you people suck. Read the article. What's not in question is whether or not some people in the European continent (Scandinavians) knew North America existed -- it's whether the rest of Europe did. Many educated people in the Americas believed the world was round, and had a good idea of what the planet's diameter was. That doesn't mean it was commonplace knowledge in Europe that North America existed. This isn't a debate about who discovered North America -- it's about who knew it existed, when they knew it, how much they knew, and how much they kept quiet about, and what plans they might have made because of it. It's about the possibility of a secret history.