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(   Pete Rose a "beaten man." The news isn't all bad for Pete: He had $20,000 on "Pete Rose will further alienate himself from baseball"   ( divider line
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2004-02-23 10:08:52 PM  
He talked to me about it in private, told me that he let me down. And he broke down.

So, someone in a room besides Mike Schmidt did the sobbing?
2004-02-23 10:50:37 PM  
Mike and Pete at their weekly Ugly as Fark Support Group meeting?
2004-02-23 10:50:55 PM  
Fark Pete Rose. He doesn't deserve shiat.
2004-02-23 10:53:17 PM  
2004-02-23 10:59:00 PM  
As a Cincinnatian, it is against the law to criticize The Pete. However, as Thom Yorke once sang, he did it to himself.
2004-02-23 10:59:27 PM  
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2004-02-23 10:59:45 PM  
It's the "Bad Mullet" club.
2004-02-23 11:01:25 PM  
If baseball was Hollywood, he'd have an Oscar.
2004-02-23 11:05:29 PM  
Is there a "faggot" tag?
2004-02-23 11:07:29 PM  
I love Pete. Baseball died with his dignity.
2004-02-23 11:08:18 PM  
Rose deserves everything he's gotten, including the felony conviction. This guy's a total scumbag, and 4,000-plus hits or not, he nor anyone else who has gambled on the game belongs back in baseball.
2004-02-23 11:12:28 PM  
He should not have been treated this way. He gambled, whoop-de-god-damn-doo. At least he wasn't shoving crack up his nose like Darryl Strawberry and countless others.
2004-02-23 11:12:31 PM  
The guy couldn't even admit it and apologize without making it a way to earn himself some money.

Rose is an assclown.
2004-02-23 11:12:43 PM  
Eff Pete Rose.
2004-02-23 11:15:12 PM  
Baseball has been ruined by over-paid, under hustled, talentless, hot headed, no love for the game, wife beatin' roid monkeys.

/where have you gone Joe DiMaggio?
2004-02-23 11:17:48 PM  
What happeded to guys like Mickey Mantle who could drink all night play all day and still hit 500 home runs? Now we have Half a billion dollar infields and teams struggling to exist.
2004-02-23 11:20:12 PM  
Screw Pete Rose.

I'm tired of his whining pansy-ass supporters going on about atheletes that do drugs, etc.


Betting on baseball, especially as a manager, jeopardizes the integrity of the game more than a cokehead does.

And hey - why don't you whining asshats push for harsher punishments for the cokeheads and other shiatheads that are ruining the game instead of whining that other people are doing bad things so Rose should be allowed to also?
2004-02-23 11:20:59 PM  
Baseball is over, it will never be "holy" again. Everything wrong with america is reflected in the current state of the game.

/aren't we about due for a strike?
2004-02-23 11:25:40 PM  
Schmidt will coach 20- and 21-year-old prospects this year as manager of the Clearwater Threshers, the Phillies' single-A farm team in the Florida State League. It is Schmidt's first full-time job in baseball since he retired in 1989.

Which means that nobody gives a crap what Schmidt thinks (outside of Ohio).
2004-02-23 11:33:18 PM  
Wow you guys are harsh. It's not like he was driving while on his cell phone after all.
2004-02-23 11:33:59 PM  
Were Rose and Schmitty ever on the same team?
2004-02-23 11:38:44 PM  

Yes. They were both on the 1980 World Champion Philles.
2004-02-23 11:43:20 PM  
I was a Charlie Hustle supporter until this latest round. He has really made an arsehole out of himself and probably has blown any chance he ever had of being reinstated.
2004-02-23 11:46:48 PM  
What happened to Chris Sabo??
2004-02-23 11:49:37 PM  
Charlie Hustle...What a Name...He really lived up to it.

/Sad :(
2004-02-23 11:53:16 PM  
What's Pete Rose, Jr. doing now?
2004-02-23 11:54:39 PM  
He is still in the minors last I heard.
2004-02-24 12:16:09 AM  
Pete Rose a "beaten man."

First reaction: Mob enforcers caught up with him over bad gambling debts? But, no...
2004-02-24 12:44:20 AM  
Mike Schmidt: combine the hitting and the glove, and you're talking about the best third baseman ever. Ever.
2004-02-24 12:48:36 AM  
Pete Rose should not have to apologize. Check the records, when the whole scandal broke, the intial agreement Rose signed with MLB constituted "neither a denial nor an admission of guilt." He was Banned for Life, with an opportunity to apply for reinstatement in one year.

Moments after Rose and his attorneys left the meeting with Commissioner Giamatti, Giamatti went on TV to give the well-known "One of Baseball's legends has committed the ultimate crime in baseball" statement.

Not quite what the agreement he signed with Rose had led Pete to believe would be MLB's official position on the situation. Things deteriorated from there, and Giamatti died shortly afterwards. Giamatti's successor, Fay Vincent, was a hard-liner on Rose, rejected every appeal for reinstatement.

Since the owners seized control of the Commissioner's office, Bud Selig has been the man with the authority to reinstate Rose, but has demanded concessions neither sought by MLB nor agreed to by Rose when he VOLUNTARILY agreed to the ban, with the opportunity for reinstatement after one year and a non-admission of guilt clause.

Pete broke Ty Cobb'shiats record- which at one time everyone was sure would never be broken. Ty Cobb was an unrepentantly racist drunk, who definitely committed multiple assaults against: his fellow players; fans, sometimes in the stands (including a one-armed man); any black person he happened across who did not give him "proper respect," all the women in his love life; and his own children. Cobb is also thought to have killed at least one man, a black man he is said to have beaten to death with the butt of a pistol. All Pete did was bet on baseball during the time he was a manager (NOT during his playing days.)

Cobb is in the Hall of Fame, and rightly acknowledged as a God of Baseball. Pete Rose broke this record, not with overwhelming athletic gifts, but with a tough, scrappy style that made all the 'Average Joes' feel like he was one of them.

Pete Rose was all about the strength of his heart on the diamond. MLB, after the strike and resultant non-competitive nature of MLB without a salary cap, will never get the hearts of many former die-hard baseball fans like me back until they give the man his due, without trying to further humiliate this already destroyed legend.
2004-02-24 01:03:48 AM  
Rose got a lifetime ban from baseball. Boo hoo. It's called personal accountability.

Now if only he can score a lifetime ban from media coverage...
2004-02-24 01:05:42 AM  
Put him into the Hall of Fame, don't let him back into baseball today and make him wear some kind of humorous jumpsuit

Then he should start a betting tips hotline...'for only $0.99/min get sure fire picks'
2004-02-24 01:49:02 AM  
Monkeybiscuit: Maybe that "so and so did wrong so it's ok for someone else to do wrong" whining works on the grade school playgrounds you frequent, but this is the grown-up world.

Cobb's off the field actions, while deplorable, had nothing to do with baseball.

A manager betting ON HIS OWN TEAM, however, jeopardizes the integrity of the game.

Baseball doesn't make rules concerning things that are already covered by local, state and Federal laws. MLB makes rules to cover what goes on in their sport.

And please cut the crap about anyone trying to humiliate Rose. He humiliated himself when he admitted guilt by signing that agreement and then made an ass of himself for years afterwards as he proclaimed his innocence, and then made it worse when he admitted it, but in a way that said "I need money, so I wrote a book, but I know it won't sell unless there's something huge in there. Oh yeah, I'm going to do this at a time to draw attention away from other people going into the Hall of Fame."
2004-02-24 01:50:01 AM  
Funny, because it's painfully obvious that Bonds broke his records while juicing, but he's a multi-gazillionaire who's lauded as a hero.

fark baseball. Worst professional sport in the world, bar none.
2004-02-24 03:58:49 AM  
pete rose is a sack of shiat.

and baseball is such a joke. 9 figure salaries to swing a stick and scratch your balls.
2004-02-24 04:11:12 AM  
That's right. He broke the one unforgivable rule in baseball and that's betting on your own team.
Did you know if a player bets on another team, they'll be suspended for just one year. That's it.
He knew, but his ego wouldn't let it go.
Piss on him. If he gets in the Hall, Johnny Bench will probably reclaim his statue. No way I'd ever vote for that specimen.
2004-02-24 04:56:53 AM  
This is super-important.
2004-02-24 07:12:32 AM  
Wipe his name from the record books, I say.

/"F" Charlie Hustle
2004-02-24 07:16:15 AM  
At least he bet on his own team to win.

Didn't he?
2004-02-24 09:06:35 AM  
monkeybiscuit - Ty Cobb was a reprehensible human being, yes. He beat a one-handed man for calling him a "half-n1993r," and was suspended indefinitely at the time (reinstated afeter his teammates went on strike). He beat women. He beat blacks. He was deplorable, nasty, mean, and simply one monumental asshat of a motherfarker. But he never farked with the entity of Baseball - and that's the issue here. Pete Rose, as a manager, bet on a game where he had an inside track as to fixing the outcome or at least knowing insider information. #1 - that's not a very honest bet, and #2, he knew it was against the rules of his league. He knew the consequences. If it were only a matter of a "gambling addiction," he would have bet on anything. But no - he bet on baseball. Which to me means he stood to gain handsomely and was ripe for game-fixing.

I thought it was a minor thing, too, until I really looked at it. There are reasons MLB has those rules. And he knew it. And he broke them knowingly. Sorry, he deserves what he gets. If he had shown at least a LITTLE remorse, it may have been different. But not only did he do it, he LIED about it. And then, not too long after being banned, was making statements like, "Hey - they need to be reinstating me now! I'm the best thing they got!" (This was during the first strike that happened after he was banned [1991?], when it was feared that baseball would lose much of the fan base. They did, by the way.)

I agree that baseball today is a far cry from what it was intended to be - it is indeed overrun by overpaid, whiny, steroid-using, asshat celebrities who are not fit to tie up the cleats of Ruth or Gehrig or Maris or Aaron. This is why I only attend minor league games now.
2004-02-24 12:36:12 PM  

I'm starting to think maybe those planet of the apes jumpsuits they make him wear are punishment enough
2004-02-24 12:42:18 PM  
I've gotta share... I saw Mr. Rose at Rock Bottom Brewery in Westminster, Colorado (just outside Denver) about a month ago. He's lookin' pretty rough. He was in a flashy track suit and some "bling-bling" gaudy glasses. I couldn't help but chuckle and almost feel bad for him - I'm sure he thought that he looked cool. Supposedly he's a regular there with a young lady friend.
2004-02-24 01:23:31 PM  
It seems that some people have this nasty problem of idolizing sport stars. Pete's discovered this can be fun as well as a curse. Sure he could bang as many women as he liked but fans don't easily forgive their idols for acting like normal people with faults. He'd be a lot happier giving up on trying to relive his "glory years" in baseball and just enjoy watching from the sidelines like everyone else.
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