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(Cincinnati Enquirer)   Cincinnati Public Schools expels kindergartners for stabbing classmates in face, bringing weapons to school. "Experts" blame everything under the sun except terrible parents   ( divider line
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2004-02-23 09:00:29 PM  
What the article doesn't mention is that these kids are not actually being expelled for the urination in trash cans and stabbing others in the face. It's for refusing their original punishment of having to attend an "alternative school".
2004-02-23 09:59:03 PM  
Simply stunning.
2004-02-23 10:00:03 PM  
How can you expel a kindergartner for peeing in a trash can? That seems kinda harsh.
2004-02-23 10:01:04 PM  
Damn terrorists.
2004-02-23 10:01:15 PM  
This is all I could think of:

Oh, the other day my boss said we were running low on toner,
And he told me I should buy another case.
Well, I told him I was busy, but he still just kept on asking,
So I turned around and stabbed him in the face.
2004-02-23 10:01:28 PM  
Liberals would blame Bush.
2004-02-23 10:01:38 PM  
Ah, kindergarden. Good times, good times.
2004-02-23 10:03:27 PM  
I just read the article. The stabbing was done with a plastic fork. That's not really that big a deal when you think about it. I mean, seriously, how much damage is one of those crappy little forks gonna do?
2004-02-23 10:03:43 PM  
"Experts" blame everything under the sun except terrible parents

Well, according to Hillary, it takes a village, doesn't it?

/oh brother
2004-02-23 10:03:55 PM  
What evah happened to craaaazy? A kid can't be craazay no more?

/chris rock
2004-02-23 10:04:32 PM  
It's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye.
2004-02-23 10:04:33 PM  
I stabbed another student in the face with a brick once. (don't worry, he was already mildly retarded)
2004-02-23 10:06:15 PM  
Just for the record, that is Princeton, Ohio. Not Princeton, NJ (my home town).
2004-02-23 10:06:49 PM  
Well when I was a young'un I pissed on so much school property, you'd think I was a cat marking his territory.
2004-02-23 10:07:49 PM  
Spank 'em.
2004-02-23 10:08:18 PM  
I blame plastic. Without plastic, there wouldn't be plastic knives or forks. Also, it is the fault of parents for not teaching how to properly eat food with a fork and teaching kids the the faces of other children are not delicious pie. And it is the fault of the human body for not recycling its waste so the need for urinating would cease to be.
2004-02-23 10:08:18 PM  
Experts blame many factors: Sex and violence on television and in video games

what violent videogames can a 5 year old play? Other than Counter-Strike of course...
2004-02-23 10:08:43 PM  
anti, you're going to hell (i laughed though..)
2004-02-23 10:10:05 PM  
2004-02-23 09:00:29 PM El_Presdente

What the article doesn't mention is that these kids are not actually being expelled for the urination in trash cans and stabbing others in the face. It's for refusing their original punishment of having to attend an "alternative school".

I refer you to this part of the article:
To break that cycle, Cincinnati Public Schools this month launched alternative learning centers so students who are expelled in grades 9-12 receive schooling outside their regular classrooms. The district does not yet offer alternative placement for elementary students who are expelled.

The students expelled from elementary school do NOT get sent to alternative schools, they are simply expelled. If the schools don't exist for them to go to, how can they be punished to go there?

As a Cincinnati resident (and the poster of this great article about the kids here) I call on Bob Huggins to get his ass to the local kindergarten and recruit some talent.
2004-02-23 10:10:58 PM  
This is why we need to make late-term abortions legal.
2004-02-23 10:11:51 PM  
I blame overpopulation. the more people there are, the more unruly they become. The more unruly people become, the more civil liberties politicians have to take away in order to maintaim order.
2004-02-23 10:13:01 PM  
MrEricSir I completely agree. Someone should write a congressman to sponsor the "I made you, and I can destroy you" Bill, legalizing abortions through 18 years of age.
2004-02-23 10:13:32 PM  
Kids are stressed out.

What the hell does a 5 year old have to be stressed about? Bad credit, perhaps?
2004-02-23 10:15:11 PM  
"Sex and violence on television..."

What I object to is all this sex on the television. I mean, I keep falling off.

[/Monty Python]
2004-02-23 10:15:18 PM  

yea but what if there were only 5 people on an island, and one was bad, killed the rest.

that would leave the one person, who would have to find a way to procreate with a coconut.
2004-02-23 10:16:07 PM  
"that would leave the one person, who would have to find a way to procreate with a coconut."

You've been reading Stileproject, haven't you?
2004-02-23 10:19:31 PM  
I pee'd on a trash can at Octoberfest...promptly expeled to the local city jail..
2004-02-23 10:21:18 PM  
As a Cincinnati resident (and the poster of this great article about the kids here) I call on Bob Huggins to get his ass to the local kindergarten and recruit some talent.

The Bearcats are getting soft, now.
2004-02-23 10:22:56 PM  
when I was five, all I worried about was where the hell brown milk came from.
2004-02-23 10:23:49 PM  
Crime at UC's campus is on the rise, and the Bearcats have been playing lousy lately. Sounds like someone has been up to some late-night antics.
2004-02-23 10:27:39 PM  
Alexis -- those crappy forks are pretty damn sharp
2004-02-23 10:27:46 PM  
The Nasty 'nati rapazent!
2004-02-23 10:28:34 PM  
These kids need what I got: a time out.

When I kicked a teacher, my father took time out of his busy schedule to kick my ass.

/kicked ONE teacher
2004-02-23 10:30:32 PM  
I was in a gang called Voltron in 2nd grade.
2004-02-23 10:31:30 PM  
sorry, "gang"
2004-02-23 10:31:50 PM  

You're joking right? You're not serious about comparing six billion humans fighting over very limited and finite resources to a freak occurance, are you?
2004-02-23 10:32:14 PM  
"Isn't there something else that can be done besides kicking them out of school? They're just starting."

Yeah, the parents can grow a pair and learn to dicipline their kids once in a while. Hell, if I did something like that I got my arse beat. I turned out just fine. Oh and its examples like these kids featured in the artical that makes me want to not have any kids of my own. That and I know a few people that make me feel the same way.
2004-02-23 10:32:57 PM  
The parents of suspended/expelled children should be required to attend parenting classes each and every time their child is suspended/expelled. Maybe being forced to learn better ways to deal with your child's behavior would force you to control your child's behavior.
2004-02-23 10:33:39 PM  

yea, i thought the joke would be obvious, but i dont think overpopulation is the problem, maybe one of MANY contributory factors.
2004-02-23 10:34:32 PM  
You'd be suprised at the amount of violent and anti-social (think sociopathic) kids who are in the public school systems today. Funny thing is that once they are diagnosed with an "Emotional Disturbance" or "Severe Behavioral Handicap," the schools by law won't be allowed to suspend or expel them. They get an Individualized Education Plan (basically a free ticket to do what they want since they can't be punished), an aide to babysit them all day long, and end up in my class taking my time away from the kids who want to be there and want to learn. Public schools are the dumping ground and new mental hospitals for kids who need to be "socialized."
2004-02-23 10:35:20 PM  
They're definitely going to blame the video game industry on this one I can see it now. It's the easiest scapegoat for crappy parents.
2004-02-23 10:38:14 PM  

Kids these days seem to have no fear of getting in trouble. I think due the the fact that they are never punished for anythng.

We need to put the fear back into these little brats.

2004-02-23 10:41:30 PM  
There are also a lot of really farked-up kids out there. Everybody is "happy" that we "save" so many premature babies, and the ones born to crackheads and drunks. What no one seems happy about is having to deal with these kids if/when they reach school age. They've got learning disabilities and personality/emotional problems and physical problems out the wazzoo. Complicated by the fact that their families are drugged out losers, whose only idea of "discipline" is burning the kids w/ cigarettes.

The whole thing Sux :(
2004-02-23 10:42:10 PM  
Someone needs a spanking, and it's not just Natalie Portman.

mmm, Natalie Portman...
2004-02-23 10:43:04 PM  
Cripes. Y'know, I really hate links like this. Here I am, trying my damndest to get a college education and get the hell out of Cincinnati, and here this article goes discouraging me again. Why can't I just get my degree from a school in a city I can be PROUD of? Is it hopeless?

As for these kids, I do blame the parents. I'm not old fashioned, but a little quality time with the young'uns, a community center, and a good whack on the butt once in a blue moon never hurt anyone.

/boycotting own city
2004-02-23 10:44:57 PM  
Ohio city public schools, guess the demographic.

On the other hand, the state has a duty to provide a safe learning environment, so make the kids stay home till the parents "enable" the child to not act out physically unless attacked by other children or adults.

Schools are not dumping grounds for every social problem.

However, we can choose to make them genuine half-way houses from 6 to 6; with medical assessment and care, after school programs that are free for all, and serving three nutritious on-sight meals.

Furthermore, checking a box upon school enrollment could automate public assistance enrollment including all programs, such as housing, cash, food, and medical coverage.

There is no excuse for permitting the children to suffer for adult misconduct.
2004-02-23 10:45:40 PM  
Adding to the fact that the parents probably barely made it through High School(or never graduated), so they have no respect for school(or love of learning) to pass on to their kids.
2004-02-23 10:48:08 PM  
The entire argument blaming violent videogames, tv, movies etc. is BS. Does anyone remember the Three Stooges??????
2004-02-23 10:51:39 PM  
A boy's gotta learn how to stab sometime in life.
2004-02-23 10:52:21 PM  
Are people forgetting that these kids are five years old? When I was five I took a piece of wood and smashed it over a little girls head because i thought it would mean that i liked her. These kids are way too young to understand their actions and expelling them will most likely just cause a massive amount of confusion. The little girl who was suspended for spraying pepper spray when she thought it was perfume deserves holy vengence to be rained down on the idiots who thought up the "zero tolerance" policy.

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