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2014-09-04 08:58:07 PM
And it's not Liam Neeson
 
2014-09-04 09:12:33 PM
That sounds vaguely dirty.
 
2014-09-04 09:15:39 PM
Didn't he die?
 
2014-09-04 09:26:27 PM
Nice. We've been seeing his goons from time to time and plenty of reference to the man himself it'll be good to finally have him in the mix.

I never saw Riddick so I have no idea what kind of acting chops this guy has. Anyone know anything about him?
 
2014-09-04 10:36:10 PM
I am really looking forward to this season.

The less island flashbacks the better!
 
2014-09-04 11:17:24 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I am really looking forward to this season.

The less island flashbacks the better!


Island flashbacks were tolerable, Roy Harper wasn't, IMHO. ( and I'm pretty laid-back regarding other "CW-isms" on that show)

/ yeah, I'll still watch this; despite my grumbling....
// DC Fanboy
 
2014-09-04 11:51:13 PM
More importantly, Rila Fukushima is coming on board...

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2014-09-04 11:54:55 PM

quatchi: Nice. We've been seeing his goons from time to time and plenty of reference to the man himself it'll be good to finally have him in the mix.

I never saw Riddick so I have no idea what kind of acting chops this guy has. Anyone know anything about him?


*Googles*

He was in this show:

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I know nothing about it but using the term "bikie" to describe motorcycle gangs always makes me want to giggle like a schoolgirl.
 
2014-09-04 11:56:02 PM
Is this show actually any good? I saw a bit of Green Arrow when I would catch an episode here and there of Smallville. I haven't bothered watching it because I figured it was just another teen angsty monster of the week type show that Smaillville was.
 
2014-09-04 11:57:59 PM
Didn't we know this by the end of last season?

I mean, uh, what's an Oliver Queen.
 
2014-09-05 12:04:24 AM
why's ra's al ghul never played by an a-rab?
 
2014-09-05 12:14:25 AM

Richard_The_Clown: Is this show actually any good? I saw a bit of Green Arrow when I would catch an episode here and there of Smallville. I haven't bothered watching it because I figured it was just another teen angsty monster of the week type show that Smaillville was.


Arrow is as far away from Smallville as the Earth is from the moon. And I say this as a fan of Smallville. (consequently, the show got way better once it put the teen angst thing aside about halfway through).

Arrow is a lot darker than you expect it to be. The writing is decent and the plot is pretty darn good. The acting ranges from serviceable to occasionally great. It's chief asset is that it's an earnest attempt to treat the source material seriously, while giving equal measure to the absurdities of the comic book world. And there's lots of obvious and subtle nuggets sprinkled throughout for comic book fans.

Incidentally, Smallville did a lot of that in the later seasons too. Great comic references and appearances you wouldn't expect.

Oh, and you'll just fall in love with Felicity on Arrow.
 
2014-09-05 12:14:38 AM

moothemagiccow: why's ra's al ghul never played by an a-rab?


Takes to long to get through security when your flying to a location shoot.
 
2014-09-05 12:18:47 AM

fusillade762: I know nothing about it but using the term "bikie" to describe motorcycle gangs always makes me want to giggle like a schoolgirl.


Seriously, that's not a typo it's the title? Who thought that was a good idea?

rzrwiresunrise: More importantly, Rila Fukushima is coming on board...

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My interests. This appeals to them.
 
2014-09-05 12:23:14 AM

PIP_the_TROLL: Oh, and you'll just fall in love with Felicity on Arrow.


No fair. I saw her first!

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Funny, smart *and* sexy. A true triple threat to my heart!
 
2014-09-05 12:29:41 AM

quatchi: fusillade762: I know nothing about it but using the term "bikie" to describe motorcycle gangs always makes me want to giggle like a schoolgirl.

Seriously, that's not a typo it's the title? Who thought that was a good idea?


It's apparently the official term for Australian bikers (British ones, too, iirc). For example:

New evidence emerges agains bikies involved in notorious Gold Coast riot
 
2014-09-05 12:43:19 AM
John Diggle: Helena Bertinelli. Daughter of mob boss Frank Bertinelli.

Felicity Smoak: Or as I like to call her, Oliver's psycho ex-girlfriend hell-bent on revenge against her father.

Black Canary: Ex-girlfriend?

Oliver Queen: That's what you took from that sentence?
 
2014-09-05 12:55:38 AM

PIP_the_TROLL: Richard_The_Clown: Is this show actually any good? I saw a bit of Green Arrow when I would catch an episode here and there of Smallville. I haven't bothered watching it because I figured it was just another teen angsty monster of the week type show that Smaillville was.

Arrow is as far away from Smallville as the Earth is from the moon. And I say this as a fan of Smallville. (consequently, the show got way better once it put the teen angst thing aside about halfway through).

Arrow is a lot darker than you expect it to be. The writing is decent and the plot is pretty darn good. The acting ranges from serviceable to occasionally great. It's chief asset is that it's an earnest attempt to treat the source material seriously, while giving equal measure to the absurdities of the comic book world. And there's lots of obvious and subtle nuggets sprinkled throughout for comic book fans.

Incidentally, Smallville did a lot of that in the later seasons too. Great comic references and appearances you wouldn't expect.

Oh, and you'll just fall in love with Felicity on Arrow.


Cool. Maybe I'll check it out on Netflix. I guess I'm just a bit leery as Warner's has that "grim and gritty, no laughing" policy with it's properties based on DC material. Plus I just really hated how they totally changed up the Superman mythos in Smallville. Lex and Clark being friends early on, okay that I'll buy. But moving Metropolis from the east coast to the mid-west was dumb, Lois Lane knowing Clark since he was in high school I felt was dumb, and the fact that Superman never appeared was dumb! Though I had heard they made the costume too small and didn't have time to make a new one... I don't know I had given up on the show long before then and only saw it if my roommate was watching it.
 
2014-09-05 12:56:26 AM

fusillade762: quatchi: fusillade762: I know nothing about it but using the term "bikie" to describe motorcycle gangs always makes me want to giggle like a schoolgirl.

Seriously, that's not a typo it's the title? Who thought that was a good idea?

It's apparently the official term for Australian bikers (British ones, too, iirc). For example:

New evidence emerges agains bikies involved in notorious Gold Coast riot


That's almost adorable.
 
2014-09-05 01:00:40 AM

Richard_The_Clown: Is this show actually any good? I saw a bit of Green Arrow when I would catch an episode here and there of Smallville. I haven't bothered watching it because I figured it was just another teen angsty monster of the week type show that Smaillville was.


No the show is awful and pretty much exactly how you describe it.


But I am a Green Arrow fan and I will continue to watch it anyway.
 
2014-09-05 01:05:50 AM
Interesting.  When is Season 2 coming onto Netflix, so I can catch up?
 
2014-09-05 01:10:25 AM

Richard_The_Clown: Cool. Maybe I'll check it out on Netflix. I guess I'm just a bit leery as Warner's has that "grim and gritty, no laughing" policy with it's properties based on DC material.


The show is pretty dire for the first half or so of the first season and then dramatically improves - the first season finale is legitimately great and the second season is consistently good. There's a few viewing guides floating around that tell you which episodes to skip.
 
2014-09-05 01:13:59 AM

Richard_The_Clown: Cool. Maybe I'll check it out on Netflix. I guess I'm just a bit leery as Warner's has that "grim and gritty, no laughing" policy with it's properties based on DC material. Plus I just really hated how they totally changed up the Superman mythos in Smallville. Lex and Clark being friends early on, okay that I'll buy. But moving Metropolis from the east coast to the mid-west was dumb, Lois Lane knowing Clark since he was in high school I felt was dumb, and the fact that Superman never appeared was dumb! Though I had heard they made the costume too small and didn't have time to make a new one... I don't know I had given up on the show long before then and only saw it if my roommate was watching it.


First off, for the most part, critiques of Smallville have a lot of credibility to them. It was a show with a LOT of weaknesses. But I contend that the show - all 10 seasons of it - was worth it for this moment alone!

They made a lot of bad choices to artificially put the key figures from the Superman mythos into each other's orbits. I fully expect "Gotham" to suffer from this as well.

I always heard that the no Superman suit thing was actually down to the guy playing Clark not wanting to wear tights. I don't know how true that is (I doubt a young actor could hold that kind of sway on a tv show).

The Midwest Metropolis thing was stupid, you're right.

But I stand by my assertion that Smallville's Lois Lane is the best Lois ever portrayed outside the books. Even better than the Timmverse one. She's smart, sassy, stubborn, unrelentingly curious, never a victim and always a fully realized woman whose personality isn't dictated by Clark / Superman. She was a great foil.

She's so great, she even crossed universes.

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Twice.

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2014-09-05 01:16:48 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I am really looking forward to this season.

The less island flashbacks the better!


No island flashback this year. Flashbacks are in Hong Kong and not centered on Oliver.
 
2014-09-05 01:20:46 AM

Gunther: Richard_The_Clown: Cool. Maybe I'll check it out on Netflix. I guess I'm just a bit leery as Warner's has that "grim and gritty, no laughing" policy with it's properties based on DC material.

The show is pretty dire for the first half or so of the first season and then dramatically improves - the first season finale is legitimately great and the second season is consistently good. There's a few viewing guides floating around that tell you which episodes to skip.


Agreed, if you suffer through the first half the characters start to gel and you get more back story it becomes a really good show.

Though Laurel and Tommy are craptacular.

Harry Dresden does a great job.
 
2014-09-05 01:20:52 AM

CipollinaFan: Richard_The_Clown: Is this show actually any good? I saw a bit of Green Arrow when I would catch an episode here and there of Smallville. I haven't bothered watching it because I figured it was just another teen angsty monster of the week type show that Smaillville was.

No the show is awful and pretty much exactly how you describe it.


But I am a Green Arrow fan and I will continue to watch it anyway.


No it isn't. It's mid 20 adults, with shades of soap opera storylines with lots of cool action. It's not perfect, but damn entertaining.
 
2014-09-05 01:26:51 AM
Unfortunately, Ra'as isn't Arab, but I'm not sure they could get away with out without cries of boo hoo, stereotype.

On the plus side, they're actually using the League of Assassin's, no League of Shadows crap.

When are we finally going to see Ollie make his Famous Five Alarm Chilli?

Also, it seems he's finally going to start his drift to rabid left-winging, which is only effective if he has someone on the opposite side of the board to contrast with. Barry, maybe? It always worked best with Hal or Katar.
 
2014-09-05 01:42:26 AM
I still watch both season finale fights from time to time, and this  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Gpu1J6C0CY

The fight choreography on the show is amazing.

Some people are right that some characters are weak *cough* Laurel, Roy, and S2 Thea *cough*, but is completely made up for by Oliver, Felicity, Diggle, and Moira, and half and half with Sarah

On the villain side, some villains are crappy one and dones like firefly and China White, but then there's Barrowman who knocks it out of the park as Merlyn, Manu Bennet owns Slade Wilson forever, and Deadshot is finally coming into his own.  We're getting a new actual Count Vertigo hopefully S3, and more super powered people are going to start showing up (like Atom, Firestorm, Flash).

It's just great TV, and if you can tolerate Agents of Shield, there is no reason you shouldn't be watching Arrow, which is a million times better.
 
2014-09-05 01:43:57 AM

robohobo: Unfortunately, Ra'as isn't Arab, but I'm not sure they could get away with out without cries of boo hoo, stereotype.

On the plus side, they're actually using the League of Assassin's, no League of Shadows crap.

When are we finally going to see Ollie make his Famous Five Alarm Chilli?

Also, it seems he's finally going to start his drift to rabid left-winging, which is only effective if he has someone on the opposite side of the board to contrast with. Barry, maybe? It always worked best with Hal or Katar.


E8 is a two hour cross over with Flash (so Flash E8 and Arrow E8 will be a two-part event), and we know Ted Kord is showing up in Arrow.  So it could be him.  And you know, it's easy to be left-wing when you have Amanda Waller running around ready to drone strike mansions and entire cities.
 
2014-09-05 02:02:03 AM

hammer85: robohobo: Unfortunately, Ra'as isn't Arab, but I'm not sure they could get away with out without cries of boo hoo, stereotype.

On the plus side, they're actually using the League of Assassin's, no League of Shadows crap.

When are we finally going to see Ollie make his Famous Five Alarm Chilli?

Also, it seems he's finally going to start his drift to rabid left-winging, which is only effective if he has someone on the opposite side of the board to contrast with. Barry, maybe? It always worked best with Hal or Katar.

E8 is a two hour cross over with Flash (so Flash E8 and Arrow E8 will be a two-part event), and we know Ted Kord is showing up in Arrow.  So it could be him.  And you know, it's easy to be left-wing when you have Amanda Waller running around ready to drone strike mansions and entire cities.


Waller could work well in that regard, the thing is, she should be fairly likable. Or at the very least, understandable. She was used very well in JLU. I'd rather she was standard short, overweight Waller, though. There's a reason folk called her 'The Wall'. I really like her as a character in the actual books, though she, along with everyone, was much better pre-Flashpoint.

I may be mistaken, but I don't really remember Palmer or Kord really ever having politics enough for arguments over them.
 
2014-09-05 02:04:07 AM

hammer85: robohobo: Unfortunately, Ra'as isn't Arab, but I'm not sure they could get away with out without cries of boo hoo, stereotype.

On the plus side, they're actually using the League of Assassin's, no League of Shadows crap.

When are we finally going to see Ollie make his Famous Five Alarm Chilli?

Also, it seems he's finally going to start his drift to rabid left-winging, which is only effective if he has someone on the opposite side of the board to contrast with. Barry, maybe? It always worked best with Hal or Katar.

E8 is a two hour cross over with Flash (so Flash E8 and Arrow E8 will be a two-part event), and we know Ted Kord is showing up in Arrow.  So it could be him.  And you know, it's easy to be left-wing when you have Amanda Waller running around ready to drone strike mansions and entire cities.


Speaking of Barry, I didn't love the pilot for Flash. Some things worked, some didn't. They need to axe the entire STAR Labs team, except for that one guy who was JD's brother on Scrubs. And goddamnit, Iris needs to be a reporter, and not some childhood friend of Barry's.
 
2014-09-05 02:04:43 AM
This all sounds totally great, but I always get to thinking: why do I hate live action comic book adaptations? The last couple seasons of Smallville looked pretty rad from the commercials and I started watching Arrow until I just sort of stopped.

I'm going to try again with Flash and Constantine. I want to see a gorilla get punched in the face on network TV.

Don't really care if Barry or John do the job either.
 
2014-09-05 07:14:54 AM

texdent: And it's not Liam Neeson


ArkAngel: Didn't he die?


I'm pretty sure that Arrow is in it's own universe, which from the standpoint of DC attempting to replicate Marvel's cinematic success is stupid but at least it leaves it possible for Ron Perlman to play Slade Wilson in live action on the big screen (nothing against the guy from Arrow).
 
2014-09-05 07:15:38 AM

Doc Batarang: This all sounds totally great, but I always get to thinking: why do I hate live action comic book adaptations? The last couple seasons of Smallville looked pretty rad from the commercials and I started watching Arrow until I just sort of stopped.

I'm going to try again with Flash and Constantine. I want to see a gorilla get punched in the face on network TV.

Don't really care if Barry or John do the job either.


Later Smallville was indeed most rad.
 
2014-09-05 07:31:27 AM

robohobo: hammer85: robohobo: Unfortunately, Ra'as isn't Arab, but I'm not sure they could get away with out without cries of boo hoo, stereotype.

On the plus side, they're actually using the League of Assassin's, no League of Shadows crap.

When are we finally going to see Ollie make his Famous Five Alarm Chilli?

Also, it seems he's finally going to start his drift to rabid left-winging, which is only effective if he has someone on the opposite side of the board to contrast with. Barry, maybe? It always worked best with Hal or Katar.

E8 is a two hour cross over with Flash (so Flash E8 and Arrow E8 will be a two-part event), and we know Ted Kord is showing up in Arrow.  So it could be him.  And you know, it's easy to be left-wing when you have Amanda Waller running around ready to drone strike mansions and entire cities.

Waller could work well in that regard, the thing is, she should be fairly likable. Or at the very least, understandable. She was used very well in JLU. I'd rather she was standard short, overweight Waller, though. There's a reason folk called her 'The Wall'. I really like her as a character in the actual books, though she, along with everyone, was much better pre-Flashpoint.

I may be mistaken, but I don't really remember Palmer or Kord really ever having politics enough for arguments over them.


One of the better parts of Dark Knight Strikes Again was Ollie and The Question being political pundits debating things on cable tv. Here's hoping they think about bringing Victor Sage in and could find someone who could pull him off on tv....
 
2014-09-05 08:12:15 AM

robohobo: Unfortunately, Ra'as isn't Arab, but I'm not sure they could get away with out without cries of boo hoo, stereotype.

On the plus side, they're actually using the League of Assassin's, no League of Shadows crap.

When are we finally going to see Ollie make his Famous Five Alarm Chilli?

Also, it seems he's finally going to start his drift to rabid left-winging, which is only effective if he has someone on the opposite side of the board to contrast with. Barry, maybe? It always worked best with Hal or Katar.


FTBatman Wiki: "As told in Birth of the Demon, Ra's al Ghul is born over six hundred years before his first appearance in Batman comics, to a tribe of desert nomads somewhere in Arabia, near a city whose inhabitants' ancestors have journeyed to the Arabian Peninsula from China.  "
 
2014-09-05 08:40:51 AM

Fano: robohobo: Unfortunately, Ra'as isn't Arab, but I'm not sure they could get away with out without cries of boo hoo, stereotype.

On the plus side, they're actually using the League of Assassin's, no League of Shadows crap.

When are we finally going to see Ollie make his Famous Five Alarm Chilli?

Also, it seems he's finally going to start his drift to rabid left-winging, which is only effective if he has someone on the opposite side of the board to contrast with. Barry, maybe? It always worked best with Hal or Katar.

FTBatman Wiki: "As told in Birth of the Demon, Ra's al Ghul is born over six hundred years before his first appearance in Batman comics, to a tribe of desert nomads somewhere in Arabia, near a city whose inhabitants' ancestors have journeyed to the Arabian Peninsula from China.  "


FTRWiki:Ra's al Ghul's real name, early life, and exact age have been described differently by various writers.


Ra's has no set origin.
 
2014-09-05 08:54:56 AM

Crotchrocket Slim: texdent: And it's not Liam Neeson

ArkAngel: Didn't he die?

I'm pretty sure that Arrow is in it's own universe, which from the standpoint of DC attempting to replicate Marvel's cinematic success is stupid but at least it leaves it possible for Ron Perlman to play Slade Wilson in live action on the big screen (nothing against the guy from Arrow).


"Arrow" and the upcoming "Flash" are set in the same universe, which is explicitly not tied to either the Nolan Batman films or the new slate of DC movies. However, Liam Neeson did say several times he would be happy to reprise Ra's al Ghul for "Arrow." I doubt they ever seriously considered him, due to his cost, shooting schedule, and all the fanboy derp it would have inspired.
 
2014-09-05 09:10:41 AM

PIP_the_TROLL: Richard_The_Clown: Cool. Maybe I'll check it out on Netflix. I guess I'm just a bit leery as Warner's has that "grim and gritty, no laughing" policy with it's properties based on DC material. Plus I just really hated how they totally changed up the Superman mythos in Smallville. Lex and Clark being friends early on, okay that I'll buy. But moving Metropolis from the east coast to the mid-west was dumb,


[SNIP]

In the comics, Lex and Clark were boyhood friends until Lex had an accident in the high school chem lab
that caused his beautiful red hair to fall out and made him want to be a supervillain.

So that, at least, is true the the comics

I always heard that the no Superman suit thing was actually down to the guy playing Clark not wanting to wear tights. I don't know how true that is (I doubt a young actor could hold that kind of sway on a tv show).

I had heard that the producers of the show intended at the beginning that the final shot of the last
episode of the series was supposed to be Clark finally taking flight.  They never intended to ever show
him in the full Superman get up.

The Midwest Metropolis thing was stupid, you're right.

I always thought that Metropolis *WAS* in the mid-west.  The unspoken trope among comic fans is that
Metropolis was a stand-in for Chicago, while Gotham was a stand-in for New York City.

I'm not up on my official DC geography, though ISTR that in the comics Metropolis and Gotham are only
a couple of hours apart by car.
 
2014-09-05 09:13:28 AM
I'll echo the sentiment that Arrow is much better than Smallville's early seasons. You get a bit of the silly WB/CW drama bs, but not as much after the first half of season 1. Also, am I the only one that likes the island flashbacks? I've always said that the flashbacks on this show were done very well as to not need to retcon things for the show, and the flashbacks have always been relevant to the current storyline.

Also, Felicity is mine damn you, MINE!
 
2014-09-05 09:20:16 AM
I like Arrow. My wife really likes Arrow. I like al Ghul. Would love to see Neeson do it again, but meh. It's still a thousand times better than Agents of SHIELD.

For a bit, I thought maybe DC could be as successful in serials as Marvel is with movies lately, but the Flash pilot was kinda lame.

/people say Gotham is good
//can't see it
 
2014-09-05 09:23:50 AM

DjangoStonereaver: PIP_the_TROLL: Richard_The_Clown: Cool. Maybe I'll check it out on Netflix. I guess I'm just a bit leery as Warner's has that "grim and gritty, no laughing" policy with it's properties based on DC material. Plus I just really hated how they totally changed up the Superman mythos in Smallville. Lex and Clark being friends early on, okay that I'll buy. But moving Metropolis from the east coast to the mid-west was dumb,

[SNIP]

In the comics, Lex and Clark were boyhood friends until Lex had an accident in the high school chem lab
that caused his beautiful red hair to fall out and made him want to be a supervillain.

So that, at least, is true the the comics

I always heard that the no Superman suit thing was actually down to the guy playing Clark not wanting to wear tights. I don't know how true that is (I doubt a young actor could hold that kind of sway on a tv show).

I had heard that the producers of the show intended at the beginning that the final shot of the last
episode of the series was supposed to be Clark finally taking flight.  They never intended to ever show
him in the full Superman get up.

The Midwest Metropolis thing was stupid, you're right.

I always thought that Metropolis *WAS* in the mid-west.  The unspoken trope among comic fans is that
Metropolis was a stand-in for Chicago, while Gotham was a stand-in for New York City.

I'm not up on my official DC geography, though ISTR that in the comics Metropolis and Gotham are only
a couple of hours apart by car.


I've always considered Metropolis to be in the Midwest, but that's mostly because I lived near there when I was a kid.

But in universe, I believe Metropolis is in Deleware and Gotham City is across the bay in southern New Jersey.
 
2014-09-05 09:25:01 AM

sign_of_Zeta: Fano: robohobo: Unfortunately, Ra'as isn't Arab, but I'm not sure they could get away with out without cries of boo hoo, stereotype.

On the plus side, they're actually using the League of Assassin's, no League of Shadows crap.

When are we finally going to see Ollie make his Famous Five Alarm Chilli?

Also, it seems he's finally going to start his drift to rabid left-winging, which is only effective if he has someone on the opposite side of the board to contrast with. Barry, maybe? It always worked best with Hal or Katar.

FTBatman Wiki: "As told in Birth of the Demon, Ra's al Ghul is born over six hundred years before his first appearance in Batman comics, to a tribe of desert nomads somewhere in Arabia, near a city whose inhabitants' ancestors have journeyed to the Arabian Peninsula from China.  "

FTRWiki:Ra's al Ghul's real name, early life, and exact age have been described differently by various writers.


Ra's has no set origin.


Similar to Cobra Commander, there is one version that was used more than others. And I don't grant canon to anything in the Nolan films.
 
2014-09-05 09:29:14 AM

Facetious_Speciest: It's still a thousand times better than Agents of SHIELD.


I think people are a little hard on AoS - mostly because they're comparing it to the rest of the MCU. There's no denying there are some systemic problems on that show, though.

More than anything, I think, they need to retool and reshuffle the cast and focus more on Fitz-Simmonds as a sort of new generation hope for the future type agents rather than this mary sue plot around Skye. Because if one thing is certain, the actors that play Fitz and Simmonds are the best actors on that show by a farking light-year.
 
2014-09-05 09:46:06 AM

PIP_the_TROLL: Facetious_Speciest: It's still a thousand times better than Agents of SHIELD.

I think people are a little hard on AoS - mostly because they're comparing it to the rest of the MCU. There's no denying there are some systemic problems on that show, though.

More than anything, I think, they need to retool and reshuffle the cast and focus more on Fitz-Simmonds as a sort of new generation hope for the future type agents rather than this mary sue plot around Skye. Because if one thing is certain, the actors that play Fitz and Simmonds are the best actors on that show by a farking light-year.


I think they're hard on AoS because the early parts of the show had issues that weren't fixed until the end of the first season, mainly captain cardboard and Skye. They've explained and fixed the captain cardboard issue it seems, lets see if they fix the Skye issue. Mostly though I enjoyed both AoS and Arrow, but that's likely because I'm not a brand fanboy and I'm not as picky about my entertainment as long as it isn't reality tv bullshiat.
 
2014-09-05 10:00:50 AM
It doesn't hurt that the show has good looking men AND women who run around in tank tops (or no tops) and tight leather pants.

Best damn stunt team on TV, and Stephen Amell is a geniunely cool human being who loves interacting with his fans.
 
2014-09-05 10:02:29 AM

Duck_of_Doom: Interesting.  When is Season 2 coming onto Netflix, so I can catch up?


Seriously this.  I watched all of season 1 and then couldn't find a legal way to watch the part of season 2 I missed to get caught up.
 
2014-09-05 10:24:23 AM

Slam Bradley: Duck_of_Doom: Interesting.  When is Season 2 coming onto Netflix, so I can catch up?

Seriously this.  I watched all of season 1 and then couldn't find a legal way to watch the part of season 2 I missed to get caught up.


September 14th.
 
2014-09-05 10:25:41 AM

ConConHead: It doesn't hurt that the show has good looking men AND women who run around in tank tops (or no tops) and tight leather pants.

Best damn stunt team on TV, and Stephen Amell is a geniunely cool human being who loves interacting with his fans.


Honestly I think the biggest part of it's appeal is that it pays homage to the comics quite well without being a slave to the comics. It also treats the characters seriously without making them overly cliched.
 
2014-09-05 10:29:46 AM
So lemme get this straight: Nolan's Batman is the greatest thing to ever happen for DC on camera, but their shows and other films do not take place within that same universe?

Makes a lot of sense, if you're insane and/or DC.

/you're doing it wrong
 
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