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(ESPN)   Could the Saints-Falcons rivalry be the biggest rivalry in pro football? It goes beyond the sport and represents Southern Pride   (espn.go.com) divider line 242
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2014-09-04 09:25:13 AM  
So they root for the team that loses the most?
 
2014-09-04 09:29:27 AM  
Atlanta doesn't like NOLA in general, for some reason. Most of the Falcon fans I've met somehow encompass the worst possible fan traits, then add an inferiority complex on top of it.
 
2014-09-04 09:35:26 AM  
Hahaha. No. Not even close.
 
2014-09-04 10:18:11 AM  
It's no Raiders/Jaguars

/what?
 
2014-09-04 10:26:06 AM  
Packers/Bears would like a word.

/Go Pack
 
2014-09-04 11:00:33 AM  
It's Cardinals / Rams.

St. Louis people be crazy.
 
2014-09-04 11:25:22 AM  
Brooklyn Dodgers vs. New York Giants.  The rivalry moved west when civilization and culture did.
 
2014-09-04 11:26:02 AM  
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You ask fans of a lot of other teams who their main rival is, and you might get a mixed bag of answers. You ask fans of these two teams whom they hate more than anything else, you don't get any other answer with this rivalry. I'd give it to Cleveland and Pittsburgh, but the Steelers have had so much more success over the years that it seems like they are just picking on the Browns out of malice at this point.
 
2014-09-04 11:32:31 AM  
Could the Saints-Falcons rivalry be the biggest rivalry in pro football? It goes beyond the sport and represents Southern Pride

So, that's a no, then?
 
2014-09-04 11:34:48 AM  
'Skins/Cowboys

It started when the Cowboys' owner had to extort the 'Skins' owner to allow them to be an expansion team. If that's not a great reason to start a rivalry, I don't know what is.
 
2014-09-04 11:35:23 AM  
Oh, I will say this: The Falcons are a petty, no class organization. I can think of no other reason they wouldn't allow a Falcons logo on the helmet of the punter on the Steve Gleason punt-block statue outside commemorating the return to the Dome after Katrina. If I ever had the opportunity to meet Arthur Blank, I would not hesitate to tell him how much of a dick move I think that was.
 
2014-09-04 12:05:47 PM  
Pfffffft.

snerk

As if
 
2014-09-04 12:06:10 PM  
Well Seattle just found out what it's like to be good at a sport so I'm sure they object
 
2014-09-04 12:11:56 PM  
Packers/Bears
Steelers/Browns
Redskins/Cowboys
Giants/Eagles

... All bigger NFL rivalries than Falcons/Saints

I'd give the edge to Packers/Bears because of how long it has been entrenched. Obviously I care more about the Redskins/Cowboys rivalry because I'ma Washington fan.

Not sure if the Cowboys consider the Redskins their biggest rival or not, but I'd be shocked if it wasn't. What say you Cowboy farkers?

/Calls out  Di Atribe in blatant violation of the FArQ
 
2014-09-04 12:12:12 PM  
What's weird is I lived in Atlanta for a year right after college, and I found very little "southern" about it. I ran into more displaced Yankees like myself than anyone native to the region.
 
2014-09-04 12:13:59 PM  
Both teams came into the league together and both sucked for a long period of time.  I lived in Atlanta in the early 70's and got to see the Saints a lot cause all the season ticket holders gave them away.
 
2014-09-04 12:16:57 PM  
The greatest rivalry in any professional sport should have more than 1 championship between the two teams combined.    And both of the franchises shouldn't have a reputation for being among the worst franchises in the league for the vast majority of their history.
 
2014-09-04 12:18:15 PM  

Killer Cars: What's weird is I lived in Atlanta for a year right after college, and I found very little "southern" about it. I ran into more displaced Yankees like myself than anyone native to the region.


Atlanta is the Applebees of the major US Cities.
 
2014-09-04 12:22:48 PM  
Considering both areas are more into SEC football than NFL football... no.
 
2014-09-04 12:22:53 PM  
Saints fan here, but also lived in Chicago.  Saints/Falcons is a big deal here... but in no way is it like Bears/Packers.  Its just not.  Bears/Packers goes back many decades, and both teams have had a LOT of success over that time.
 
2014-09-04 12:23:57 PM  
Nope its not


Packers vs Bears
Seattle vs 49ers (only within last few seasons)
N.E. vs Colts/Donkeys (Mainly Brady vs Manning)
Eagles vs Giants


All others meh....
 
2014-09-04 12:25:36 PM  
Literally no one outside of the south gives a rat's ass about Southern Pride.
 
2014-09-04 12:25:41 PM  

InmanRoshi: Atlanta is the Applebees of the major US Cities.


Pretty good analogy judging from my time there. I worked in Buckhead, too, which is the most generic, Sim City-esque uptown district full of fake, plastic douchebags around.
 
2014-09-04 12:26:22 PM  
The combined knifing power of an Oakland/San Diego match up disagrees, even if both teams continue to be irrelevant.
 
2014-09-04 12:27:27 PM  

LucklessWonder: Packers/Bears
Steelers/Browns
Redskins/Cowboys
Giants/Eagles

... All bigger NFL rivalries than Falcons/Saints

I'd give the edge to Packers/Bears because of how long it has been entrenched. Obviously I care more about the Redskins/Cowboys rivalry because I'ma Washington fan.

Not sure if the Cowboys consider the Redskins their biggest rival or not, but I'd be shocked if it wasn't. What say you Cowboy farkers?

/Calls out  Di Atribe in blatant violation of the FArQ


I would still consider the Redskins to be the Cowboys biggest rival.   You know that year that the Cowboys went 1 - 15?   It was worth it for that one win.
 
2014-09-04 12:28:25 PM  
The best on-field rivalries at the moment have to be Seattle-Frisco and Green Bay-Chicago. The game are always entertaining. Steelers-Ravens has lost its luster, but those games used to be must-watch across the country.
 
2014-09-04 12:28:53 PM  

LucklessWonder: /Calls out Di Atribe in blatant violation of the FArQ


That's not a violation, dummy! You can call me out in the comments all you want. ;)


LucklessWonder: I'd give the edge to Packers/Bears because of how long it has been entrenched. Obviously I care more about the Redskins/Cowboys rivalry because I'ma Washington fan.

Not sure if the Cowboys consider the Redskins their biggest rival or not, but I'd be shocked if it wasn't. What say you Cowboy farkers?


I agree with the Packers/Bears assessment. There is some deep-seeded hatred there that goes back decades. My dad is Packers fan. He hates the Bears, Chicago, everyone associated with Chicago, the entire state of Illinois, and actual bears.

As far as Cowboys/Redskins: I mean, what do you define as a rivalry? I hope the Redskins lose every game forever, but I don't HATE them. I don't shun them from my fantasy drafts. I reserve that level of hatred for the Eagles because I truly do hate them. In fact, I was really excited that Washington got Desean Jackson because now I could get him on my fantasy teams. Washington is more like our annoying little brother. It's an enjoyable antagonistic relationship. May you lose forever and be forced to change your logo to a potato.
 
2014-09-04 12:32:21 PM  
That's SEC country.  A lot of football fans don't even pay attention to the NFL around there.
 
2014-09-04 12:33:46 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Atlanta doesn't like NOLA in general, for some reason. Most of the Falcon fans I've met somehow encompass the worst possible fan traits, then add an inferiority complex on top of it.


Which is kind of weird considering how many people from NOLA live here.  Half of the people I hang out with went to LSU.  I even wore an LSU backpack cooler to the NASCAR race on Sunday and after an hour of comments and not being able to explain that I went to Purdue (and I don't even know who we played on Saturday) I found it easier to just play along.

"Wooooo Geaux Tigers!  Yeah, Les Miles!  He's a riverboat gambler!!!"
 
2014-09-04 12:34:49 PM  
Eagles fans seem to have a pretty big rivalry with basic human decency.
 
2014-09-04 12:35:20 PM  
Manchester United vs Arsenal is interested in debating the topic of discussion
 
2014-09-04 12:36:24 PM  
Di Atribe:
I agree with the Packers/Bears assessment. There is some deep-seeded hatred there that goes back decades. My dad is Packers fan. He hates the Bears, Chicago, everyone associated with Chicago, the entire state of Illinois, and actual bears.

Two of the guys in my fantasy league are Packers fans and me and another guy are Bears fans.  One of the Packer fans won't draft Bears and he takes Packers way too early.  Surprisingly, he never wins.  It's like he donates his fee every year.
 
2014-09-04 12:41:52 PM  

Hospitaller: Manchester United vs Arsenal is interested in debating the topic of discussion


It's too bad Tom Cleverley moved on to Aston Villa this week, because his midfield rivalry with Mikel Arteta was almost 1/10000000th as intense as Roy Keane and Patrick Vieira waging war against each other (and anyone in their path).
 
2014-09-04 12:42:11 PM  
Pack/Bears seems to be in peoples blood.  Great rivalry.

My Hawks/Niners has really been brewing.  It just get's better and better.

Fun ones to watch-

Broncos/Pats
Giants/Eagles

/gohawks
 
2014-09-04 12:42:13 PM  

riverwalk barfly: LucklessWonder: Packers/Bears
Steelers/Browns
Redskins/Cowboys
Giants/Eagles

... All bigger NFL rivalries than Falcons/Saints

I'd give the edge to Packers/Bears because of how long it has been entrenched. Obviously I care more about the Redskins/Cowboys rivalry because I'ma Washington fan.

Not sure if the Cowboys consider the Redskins their biggest rival or not, but I'd be shocked if it wasn't. What say you Cowboy farkers?

/Calls out  Di Atribe in blatant violation of the FArQ

I would still consider the Redskins to be the Cowboys biggest rival.   You know that year that the Cowboys went 1 - 15?   It was worth it for that one win.


I'm still pissed about that loss.Di Atribe: LucklessWonder: /Calls out Di Atribe in blatant violation of the FArQ

That's not a violation, dummy! You can call me out in the comments all you want. ;)

But, but Misogyny! The FArQ! And such as..

LucklessWonder: I'd give the edge to Packers/Bears because of how long it has been entrenched. Obviously I care more about the Redskins/Cowboys rivalry because I'ma Washington fan.

Not sure if the Cowboys consider the Redskins their biggest rival or not, but I'd be shocked if it wasn't. What say you Cowboy farkers?

I agree with the Packers/Bears assessment. There is some deep-seeded hatred there that goes back decades. My dad is Packers fan. He hates the Bears, Chicago, everyone associated with Chicago, the entire state of Illinois, and actual bears.


Well actual bears are the biggest threat facing the country today.

As far as Cowboys/Redskins: I mean, what do you define as a rivalry? I hope the Redskins lose every game forever, but I don't HATE them. I don't shun them from my fantasy drafts.

See, that's why I'm unsure. I do shun the Cowboys from my fantasy drafts and hope they lose every game forever. But I'm not sure I HATE them. I more pity them because I can relate to a team that has no idea how to build a secondary, one play-off win since the turn of the millennium and a douchebag owner who doesn't know how to leave well enough alone.

 I reserve that level of hatred for the Eagles because I truly do hate them. In fact, I was really excited that Washington got Desean Jackson because now I could get him on my fantasy teams. Washington is more like our annoying little brother.

Hey! The Redskins are the annoying BIG brother, as 1937 is before 1960.

It's an enjoyable antagonistic relationship. May you lose forever

The same to you

and be forced to change your logo to a potato.

Ah, come on, the logo is quite respectable and dignified. It's just the name (and George Preston Marshall) that's horribly racist.
 
2014-09-04 12:42:14 PM  

LucklessWonder: Packers/Bears
Steelers/Browns
Redskins/Cowboys
Giants/Eagles

... All bigger NFL rivalries than Falcons/Saints

I'd give the edge to Packers/Bears because of how long it has been entrenched. Obviously I care more about the Redskins/Cowboys rivalry because I'ma Washington fan.

Not sure if the Cowboys consider the Redskins their biggest rival or not, but I'd be shocked if it wasn't. What say you Cowboy farkers?

/Calls out  Di Atribe in blatant violation of the FArQ


Niners-Rams used to be a top-shelf rivalry, but then someone got greedy.
 
2014-09-04 12:43:08 PM  

InmanRoshi: Killer Cars: What's weird is I lived in Atlanta for a year right after college, and I found very little "southern" about it. I ran into more displaced Yankees like myself than anyone native to the region.

Atlanta is the Applebees of the major US Cities.


I'm not going to argue with that.  Dallas is Chili's and Phoenix is TGI Friday's.
 
2014-09-04 12:43:16 PM  
Does the Bills-Dolphins rivalry even register anymore, or is the NFL keeping the divisions all screwed up just to shoe-horn in a rivalry that last generated heat about 20 years ago?

Dolphins to AFC South
Ravens to AFC East
Colts to AFC North
there, fixed the farked up AFC divisions

or for when the NFL moves back to LA:
Jacksonville to LA and NFC West
St. Louis to AFC South
 
2014-09-04 12:44:31 PM  

Hospitaller: Manchester United vs Arsenal is interested in debating the topic of discussion


Neither are the others biggest rival. Arsenal's biggest rival is still Spurs and Manchester United's is either Manchester City or Liverpool
 
2014-09-04 12:45:17 PM  
Its a way more deep seated and downright hateful rivalry between Saints and Falcons than there is between the Raiders and any other team. i can tell you this much for sure.
 
2014-09-04 12:45:24 PM  
Boca / River
 
2014-09-04 12:46:09 PM  

Hospitaller: Manchester United vs Arsenal is interested in debating the topic of discussion


Take your Metric Commieball and shove it.

Bills/Phins used to be a great rivalry.

/sigh
 
2014-09-04 12:47:19 PM  

LucklessWonder: Packers/Bears
Steelers/Browns
Redskins/Cowboys
Giants/Eagles

... All bigger NFL rivalries than Falcons/Saints

I'd give the edge to Packers/Bears because of how long it has been entrenched. Obviously I care more about the Redskins/Cowboys rivalry because I'ma Washington fan.

Not sure if the Cowboys consider the Redskins their biggest rival or not, but I'd be shocked if it wasn't. What say you Cowboy farkers?

/Calls out  Di Atribe in blatant violation of the FArQ


As a 31 year old Packers fan, I am not sure how to classify the Packers/Bears rivalry. Hell, there may not be a team in Green Bay without the Bears founder. At the same time, LeRoy Butler has told a story several times that on his first day in Green Bay, an old woman came up to him and said whatever you do you'd better beat those Bears. Lovie Smith saying that he was brought in to beat the Packers, etc. Overall though, I think there is a measure of respect for the opposing team that some of the other rivalries don't have.

//Then again, Jim McMahon and Charles Martin may have a different opinion.
 
2014-09-04 12:47:23 PM  

eagles95: Nope its not


Packers vs Bears
Seattle vs 49ers (only within last few seasons)
N.E. vs Colts/Donkeys (Mainly Brady vs Manning)
Eagles vs Giants


All others meh....


Add to that (at least for a while):  Steelers v. Ravens
 
2014-09-04 12:47:31 PM  

WhiskeySticks: The combined knifing power of an Oakland/San Diego match up disagrees, even if because both teams continue to be irrelevant.


Raiders start winning, tech industry millionaires start jumping on the bandwagon, ticket prices rise, existing fan base of chop shop owners and Family Dollar security guards can't afford to come to games anymore.
 
2014-09-04 12:47:45 PM  

MugzyBrown: Boca / River


Real/Barcelona
 
2014-09-04 12:48:16 PM  

Tad_Waxpole: That's SEC country.  A lot of football fans don't even pay attention to the NFL around there.


The topic does say "pro football", not "NFL football", too. Bama-Auburn is a FAR bigger deal than New Orleans-Atlanta. Probably due to the lack of a salary cap.
 
2014-09-04 12:49:08 PM  

LucklessWonder: MugzyBrown: Boca / River

Real/Barcelona


That's a good one.  American sports fans don't understand a real rivalry.

Boca / River is a real rivalry based on different classes of people in the same city.

Real / Barcelona is based on two regions of a country that used to be (and some want to be) autonomous
 
2014-09-04 12:49:16 PM  

litespeed74: My Hawks/Niners has really been brewing. It just get's better and better.


People keep saying that. Its what like 3 years of calling names now? Seems too young and not enough bad blood yet to be called a rivalry. More of a flouncing spat so far.
 
2014-09-04 12:50:29 PM  

roc6783: LucklessWonder: Packers/Bears
Steelers/Browns
Redskins/Cowboys
Giants/Eagles

... All bigger NFL rivalries than Falcons/Saints

I'd give the edge to Packers/Bears because of how long it has been entrenched. Obviously I care more about the Redskins/Cowboys rivalry because I'ma Washington fan.

Not sure if the Cowboys consider the Redskins their biggest rival or not, but I'd be shocked if it wasn't. What say you Cowboy farkers?

/Calls out  Di Atribe in blatant violation of the FArQ

As a 31 year old Packers fan, I am not sure how to classify the Packers/Bears rivalry. Hell, there may not be a team in Green Bay without the Bears founder. At the same time, LeRoy Butler has told a story several times that on his first day in Green Bay, an old woman came up to him and said whatever you do you'd better beat those Bears. Lovie Smith saying that he was brought in to beat the Packers, etc. Overall though, I think there is a measure of respect for the opposing team that some of the other rivalries don't have.

//Then again, Jim McMahon and Charles Martin may have a different opinion.


When I watch Bears/Packers games, I find myself critiquing the Packers on a personal level that I don't do for other teams.  It's like I'm watching a normal game and then Rodgers throws a TD and I'm like "Nice face, jerkwad.  I hope you fall down the stairs and get hit by a bus!"

Then I think "Whoa, that was a little over-the-top.  I need to relax."

I don't do the same when other teams score on the Bears - and they do.
 
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