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(Politico)   Mark Begich has his own "Willie Horton" ad. Unlike Bush Sr. though, he's catching hell for it   (politico.com ) divider line
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2014-09-04 08:36:34 AM  
Bush Sr. did catch Hell for the Willie Horton ad.  It's become the iconic racist dog-whistle ad.
 
2014-09-04 09:26:54 AM  

dittybopper: Bush Sr. did catch Hell for the Willie Horton ad.  It's become the iconic racist dog-whistle ad.


Yeah but he won.
 
2014-09-04 09:56:48 AM  

Arkanaut: dittybopper: Bush Sr. did catch Hell for the Willie Horton ad.  It's become the iconic racist dog-whistle ad.

Yeah but he won.


Against Dukakis.
 
2014-09-04 10:21:37 AM  
Give me a break, Begich barely won last time around when running against a known blowhard and a convicted criminal. I would be absolutely astonished if he's able to pull this one out in a state with as much partisan gravity as Alaska.
 
2014-09-04 10:26:42 AM  
Even Alaska's Willie Hortons are very pale.
www.mako.org.au
But on the plus side, he's wearing a hoodie.
 
2014-09-04 11:26:18 AM  

dittybopper: Bush Sr. did catch Hell for the Willie Horton ad.  It's become the iconic racist dog-whistle ad.


I still remember watching SNL's "Bush's Final Negative Ad" sketch live. A masterwork.

/"Bush....He beat a bad man."
 
2014-09-04 11:27:42 AM  
November is going to be a gong show up here.

The Democrat candidate for governor just quit the race and threw his support behind an independent (former Republican) candidate to beat the GOP incumbent (not the most popular guy, but this is the reddest of red states so he would cruise otherwise.) Needless to say he's not taking it well. Plus there will be proposals for marijuana legalization, minimum wage hikes, and mining rights in a major salmon spawn area (a VERY big deal.)

I might not listen to the radio for a month.
 
2014-09-04 11:38:27 AM  
Begich would do well to make an ad touting his candor, saying why he took the ad down (potentially poisoning the jury pool) then throw in a real reason to vote for him (unlike the tangental point of the original ad).
 
2014-09-04 11:43:12 AM  
 
2014-09-04 11:46:15 AM  

spman: Give me a break, Begich barely won last time around when running against a known blowhard and a convicted criminal. I would be absolutely astonished if he's able to pull this one out in a state with as much partisan gravity as Alaska.


I don't know why I keep reading that as "partisan gravy".
 
2014-09-04 12:34:16 PM  

Somacandra: dittybopper: Bush Sr. did catch Hell for the Willie Horton ad.  It's become the iconic racist dog-whistle ad.

I still remember watching SNL's "Bush's Final Negative Ad" sketch live. A masterwork.

/"Bush....He beat a bad man."


Actually, I think the most brilliant sketch of that election season was this one:

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/88/88adebate.phtml

But perhaps not for the reason you would think.
 
2014-09-04 12:42:09 PM  

thamike: Arkanaut: dittybopper: Bush Sr. did catch Hell for the Willie Horton ad.  It's become the iconic racist dog-whistle ad.

Yeah but he won.

Against Dukakis.


You know, it's pretty bad when a woman with a scarf protecting her hair looks more masculine than you:

www.morethings.com

canaanmbc.com
 
2014-09-04 03:29:51 PM  

Twitch Boy: November is going to be a gong show up here.

The Democrat candidate for governor just quit the race and threw his support behind an independent (former Republican) candidate to beat the GOP incumbent (not the most popular guy, but this is the reddest of red states so he would cruise otherwise.) Needless to say he's not taking it well. Plus there will be proposals for marijuana legalization, minimum wage hikes, and mining rights in a major salmon spawn area (a VERY big deal.)

I might not listen to the radio for a month.


Kansas?
 
2014-09-04 03:42:02 PM  
And while the Begich spot is no longer on the air, the controversy has sparked an ongoing conversation - leading local newscasts - about Sullivan's tenure as the state's attorney general and, specifically, his record on sexual assault.

 Republicans LOVE people who are "soft" on sexual assault. Just look at Joe Arpaio.
 
2014-09-04 03:43:19 PM  

Mikey1969: And while the Begich spot is no longer on the air, the controversy has sparked an ongoing conversation - leading local newscasts - about Sullivan's tenure as the state's attorney general and, specifically, his record on sexual assault.

 Republicans LOVE people who are "soft" on sexual assault. Just look at Joe Arpaio.


Sounds to me like that ad is working precisely as intended.
 
2014-09-04 03:48:16 PM  
Willie Horton ad - recycled material from Democrat primary....
 
2014-09-04 04:23:19 PM  

dittybopper: thamike: Arkanaut: dittybopper: Bush Sr. did catch Hell for the Willie Horton ad.  It's become the iconic racist dog-whistle ad.

Yeah but he won.

Against Dukakis.

You know, it's pretty bad when a woman with a scarf protecting her hair looks more masculine than you:

[www.morethings.com image 460x300]

[canaanmbc.com image 450x350]


The thing that really pisses me off about all that was that Dukkakis actually had a reason to be in that tank.

He was trying to keep a tank making place in business (yeah, I know the deal with unused tanks) and riding around in one cos he used to be a tank guy when he served.

His biggest mistake was smiling which made him look dumb.

I got a flashback to that when Kerry the decorated war veteran was made out to be a wimp by Bush who was a silver spooner war-avoiding no show for 'Nam.

The myth that the GOP are better for the military and the economy is apparently stronger than reality.

The myth of a liberal press in the US was manifest in both those shiat-shows.
 
2014-09-04 05:01:23 PM  

Twitch Boy: November is going to be a gong show up here.

The Democrat candidate for governor just quit the race and threw his support behind an independent (former Republican) candidate to beat the GOP incumbent (not the most popular guy, but this is the reddest of red states so he would cruise otherwise.) Needless to say he's not taking it well. Plus there will be proposals for marijuana legalization, minimum wage hikes, and mining rights in a major salmon spawn area (a VERY big deal.)

I might not listen to the radio for a month.


D1vwife and I have gotten so sick of the Begich/Sullivan commercials we have given up on watching regular TV in the evenings.  Thankfully most of the shows we enjoy pop up on "Free on Demand" about 48 hours after they air.

I still catch enough of their drivel in the mornings listening to the news though.
 
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2014-09-04 05:12:51 PM  
 
2014-09-04 10:45:24 PM  

quatchi: His biggest mistake was smiling which made him look dumb.


No, his biggest mistake was in playing to a perceived weakness.  The Republicans claimed he was soft on defense.  That add was in response to that, ie., it was a reaction.  "See how I'm a friend of the military!".  It was defensive.  You don't win a campaign by going on the defensive.

Especially since military and foreign policy issues were Bush Sr.'s pluses:  He was a bona fide war hero, a combat pilot that had been shot down by the Japanese in WWII, former ambassador to the UN, former director of the CIA, and vice president under Ronald "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Reagan.

The sum total of Dukakis's military and foreign policy experience was 3 years as an enlisted man in the peace-time Army.

He was trying to fight against Bush's strength (or perceived strength), and there was just no way that was going to work for him.  Even if he didn't come across looking like a dork, at best it would have meant him not losing any ground.
 
2014-09-04 11:04:49 PM  

thamike: Arkanaut: dittybopper: Bush Sr. did catch Hell for the Willie Horton ad.  It's become the iconic racist dog-whistle ad.

Yeah but he won.

Against Dukakis.


Name a losing presidential candidate who ran a good election.
 
2014-09-05 01:02:09 AM  

dittybopper: Bush Sr. did catch Hell for the Willie Horton ad.  It's become the iconic racist dog-whistle ad.


Funny thing is, it was an Al Gore ad not a Bush Sr. ad.
 
2014-09-05 02:09:36 AM  

DupeOfURL: Willie Horton ad - recycled material from Democrat primary....


Yes, in fact it was Al Gore that first brought it up.
 
2014-09-05 07:12:23 AM  

borg: dittybopper: Bush Sr. did catch Hell for the Willie Horton ad.  It's become the iconic racist dog-whistle ad.

Funny thing is, it was an Al Gore ad not a Bush Sr. ad.


Yes, but the origin doesn't matter because *BUSH* was the bad guy.
 
2014-09-05 11:06:31 AM  
 
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