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(LA Times)   CSX: You can't film your movie on our active train tracks on a 110-year-old bridge trestle. Director: We'll do it anyway without permission; what could go wrong?   (latimes.com) divider line 124
    More: Followup, Gregg Allman, CSX, bridge spanning, Wayne County, railroad company, Allman Brothers, William Hurt, musicians  
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2014-09-03 07:47:41 PM  
In a prepared statement July 17, Miller and Savin said the crash and Jones' death "will haunt us forever" and insisted that "we would never knowingly or intentionally put anybody's safety at risk."

Like telling them to stand on train tracks?!
 
2014-09-03 08:14:04 PM  
Ain't that a peach?
 
2014-09-03 08:17:37 PM  
Survivors might want to think about dropping that suit against CSX.  They do have the not small matter of telling the film company, not only no, but hell no to filming on their tracks.  Lots of luck recovering anything from a film company, what with typically shady Hollywood accounting and all.
 
2014-09-03 08:46:48 PM  
Lawsuit?  Cease and Desist?

*clicks*

Well then.  That'll learn 'em.
 
2014-09-03 08:54:21 PM  
Umm, I'm not clicking on things,  too much like work
 
2014-09-03 08:55:27 PM  
Oh long johnson... Oh long johnson... OH LONG JOHNSON
 
2014-09-03 09:00:26 PM  
So, you ask me something and I say no.

You come back later, ask the same thing, and I still say no.

Then you go ahead and do it anyway and get people killed.

These guys are worse than morans.
 
2014-09-03 09:01:18 PM  
Missing the  Wheaton Tagright now
 
2014-09-03 09:02:03 PM  

Prey4reign: Survivors might want to think about dropping that suit against CSX.  They do have the not small matter of telling the film company, not only no, but hell no to filming on their tracks.  Lots of luck recovering anything from a film company, what with typically shady Hollywood accounting and all.


Not to mention, any twit with a camera at hand can call themselves a director. Do you think criminal charges would have really been filed if he could afford the DA?
 
2014-09-03 09:04:43 PM  
PAUL GREGG IS DEAD!
 
2014-09-03 09:05:21 PM  
Ambulance Chaser 101: Sue everyone.
 
2014-09-03 09:06:57 PM  
"The Jones family's lawsuit says CSX should have taken precautions because it knew the film crew planned to shoot in the area and operators of two passing trains saw the workers before the crash."

The stupid,  it burns!

They asked twice and said no so CSX should have known they were going to be there so lawyers and money now!
 
2014-09-03 09:07:14 PM  
This is another local story for me.  Word is this production company filmed a film in Savannah.  One of the things they did was ruin a stop sign at a busy intersection. The also tore other stuff in up town.  They didn't seem to give a flying fark.

Deadline.com has a lot more on this story.
 
2014-09-03 09:07:34 PM  
There was a similar incident in my area just the other day. Unfortunately, the results weren't the same.
http://fremonttribune.com/news/local/railroad-spikes-volleyball-team -p hoto-op/article_f49d6776-024b-5c54-a942-df4ab1e373e7.html
 
2014-09-03 09:08:14 PM  
The Jones family's lawsuit says CSX should have taken precautions because it knew the film crew planned to shoot in the area

It knew and told them twice that they don't have permission. The film crew deserved a 55 mph train.
 
2014-09-03 09:10:17 PM  

CoysOdie: PAUL GREGG IS DEAD!


No, that was Duane.
 
2014-09-03 09:12:13 PM  
The article headline and the article are the worst train wrecks I've seen in a long time.
 
2014-09-03 09:13:43 PM  
Charging the director with some kind of negligence would be pretty spiffy to me.
 
2014-09-03 09:14:06 PM  

Boo_Guy: They asked twice and said no so CSX should have known they were going to be there so lawyers and money now!


If someone also comes up with guns, they'll be able to get out of that mess.
 
2014-09-03 09:14:47 PM  

Prey4reign: Survivors might want to think about dropping that suit against CSX.  They do have the not small matter of telling the film company, not only no, but hell no to filming on their tracks.  Lots of luck recovering anything from a film company, what with typically shady Hollywood accounting and all.


Agreed on all counts. Heck, if I was CSX legal I'd probably be tempted to sue all of them for lost costs of that train, and all the others they had to reroute temporarily. (schedules count toward your pay, it's late you get paid less if anything) That's not including fuel, man hours, et al.

/Hollywood accountants cook the books so dry even a mob accountant would blush
 
2014-09-03 09:15:02 PM  
Why don't they look, Ralph? Why don't they look.
 
2014-09-03 09:15:31 PM  
I like CSX's ever-so-polite "fark you" response. They're pretty much bulletproof in this case, and seem to know it.
 
2014-09-03 09:15:49 PM  
Good thing they didn't add two children and a helicopter overhead during a middle of the night filming, with rain.
 
2014-09-03 09:17:11 PM  

martid4: CoysOdie: PAUL GREGG IS DEAD!

No, that was Duane.


PAUL GREGG IS DEAD.
Paul was supposed to be slashed over, let me try that again.
(rumors of McCartney's death 1966)
 
2014-09-03 09:19:06 PM  

inglixthemad: Prey4reign: Survivors might want to think about dropping that suit against CSX.  They do have the not small matter of telling the film company, not only no, but hell no to filming on their tracks.  Lots of luck recovering anything from a film company, what with typically shady Hollywood accounting and all.

Agreed on all counts. Heck, if I was CSX legal I'd probably be tempted to sue all of them for lost costs of that train, and all the others they had to reroute temporarily. (schedules count toward your pay, it's late you get paid less if anything) That's not including fuel, man hours, et al.

/Hollywood accountants cook the books so dry even a mob accountant would blush


According to the article, CSX is suing them.
 
2014-09-03 09:19:22 PM  

Old_Chief_Scott: So, you ask me something and I say no.

You come back later, ask the same thing, and I still say no.

Then you go ahead and do it anyway and get people killed.

These guys are worse than morans.


Not to mention that a train moving at 55mph is hardly sneaking up on them silently and stealthily. If you see and hear a train coming, *fark* the film equipment, GET OFF THE TRACKS!!! Even if you have to jump in a river, GET OFF THE TRACKS! If you end up dead, you have only yourself to blame for ignoring the train long enough for it to hit you (and if your film crew didn't have some at least a mile up the tracks either way as a safety precaution, SUE THE FILM COMPANY!).
 
2014-09-03 09:23:52 PM  

inglixthemad: Prey4reign: Survivors might want to think about dropping that suit against CSX.  They do have the not small matter of telling the film company, not only no, but hell no to filming on their tracks.  Lots of luck recovering anything from a film company, what with typically shady Hollywood accounting and all.

Agreed on all counts. Heck, if I was CSX legal I'd probably be tempted to sue all of them for lost costs of that train, and all the others they had to reroute temporarily. (schedules count toward your pay, it's late you get paid less if anything) That's not including fuel, man hours, et al.

/Hollywood accountants cook the books so dry even a mob accountant would blush


If you read the article, CSX has filed a counter suit against the production company and I would assume for those reasons. Those engines are not cheap and man hours/overtime gets very expensive. However, I have a feeling that the production company probably does even have enough money to buy a couple lattes at Starbucks......
 
2014-09-03 09:26:20 PM  
Allman Bros. Movie.
 
2014-09-03 09:26:21 PM  

Prey4reign: Lots of luck recovering anything from a film company, what with typically shady Hollywood accounting and all.


Hollywood accounting will never come into it. The film will most likely never get made. The people who will pay up will be the production insurance company, assuming they were insured, along with any number of the dozen entities that the girl's family have also sued so far. CSX might be out of the woods, although they still might find something improper about their actions - the train might not have been following safety protocols, etc.
 
2014-09-03 09:27:01 PM  
I've said it before and I'll say it again: trains are a menace. You can't just have these megaton contraptions just flying across the countryside all willy-nilly.

Now I know that trains are a necessary evil until reliable and economical transporter technology is perfected, but there needs to be some regulated system put into place to keep trains on permanent, predetermined paths so we, as citizens, know where not to stand while filming our low budget hipster documentary about some musician that no one has ever heard of or really
cares about.
 
2014-09-03 09:29:26 PM  

Boo_Guy: Charging the director with some kind of negligence would be pretty spiffy to me.


The director and two producers have already been charged with involuntary manslaughter and criminal trespassing.
 
2014-09-03 09:30:42 PM  

CoysOdie: martid4: CoysOdie: PAUL GREGG IS DEAD!

No, that was Duane.

PAUL GREGG IS DEAD.


Don't you guys watch Agents of Shield? His character came back.
 
2014-09-03 09:31:05 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: Boo_Guy: Charging the director with some kind of negligence would be pretty spiffy to me.

The director and two producers have already been charged with involuntary manslaughter and criminal trespassing.


Sounds good to me.
 
2014-09-03 09:32:02 PM  

Tobin_Lam: The film crew deserved a 55 mph train.


You realize that bosses rarely keep their employees fully informed, right?
 
2014-09-03 09:35:27 PM  
Who the fark gets killed by a train? Didn't she hear/see it coming? Didn't any of her workmates hear/see it coming and warn her?
 
2014-09-03 09:38:33 PM  

Big Ramifications: Who the fark gets killed by a train? Didn't she hear/see it coming? Didn't any of her workmates hear/see it coming and warn her?


They were trapped on a train bridge. Think Stand By Me. They had 1/2 a minute or less to get out of the way. Making matters worse, when the train hit the bed sitting on the tracks, it sent debris flying. They were told by the director/producer that there wouldn't be any more trains that day, and that even if there was, they'd have at least a minute to get out of the way.
 
2014-09-03 09:39:05 PM  
In the words of Bob Dylan - 'You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.'

Just like you don't need your boss to tell you to get out of the way of a train.
 
2014-09-03 09:40:37 PM  
How does even one person get hit by a train? That's a 100+ tons of metal coming at you at 55 mph on a track. It won't swerve to hit you. Just jump off the track and out of the way.

If the decision is between jumping off a bridge or going head to head with a train, I'm risking the heights and the water 100% of the time.
 
2014-09-03 09:44:20 PM  
Old news. So exciting.
 
2014-09-03 09:45:09 PM  

fusillade762: CoysOdie: martid4: CoysOdie: PAUL GREGG IS DEAD!

No, that was Duane.

PAUL GREGG IS DEAD.

Don't you guys watch Agents of Shield? His character came back.


Yep, T.A.H.I.T.I. sucked.
 
2014-09-03 09:45:32 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: Big Ramifications: Who the fark gets killed by a train? Didn't she hear/see it coming? Didn't any of her workmates hear/see it coming and warn her?

They were trapped on a train bridge. Think Stand By Me. They had 1/2 a minute or less to get out of the way. Making matters worse, when the train hit the bed sitting on the tracks, it sent debris flying. They were told by the director/producer that there wouldn't be any more trains that day, and that even if there was, they'd have at least a minute to get out of the way.


Then they were still all farking idiots.

Never work on or around active rail without a flagman.
 
2014-09-03 09:45:50 PM  
I hear a train a coming...
 
2014-09-03 09:46:31 PM  

Boo_Guy: shower_in_my_socks: Boo_Guy: Charging the director with some kind of negligence would be pretty spiffy to me.

The director and two producers have already been charged with involuntary manslaughter and criminal trespassing.

Sounds good to me.


If someone died while a crime was being committed, it sounds like they're getting off easy to me.

/was that a plea deal?
 
2014-09-03 09:46:56 PM  

Big Ramifications: Who the fark gets killed by a train? Didn't she hear/see it coming? Didn't any of her workmates hear/see it coming and warn her?


You might be surprised at just how quiet a train can be. If it was coasting down a minor grade, for instance, there would be very little engine sound. If there were no grade crossings nearby there would not have been any horn. A slight curve, dense forest, and being out in the middle of a long farking bridge and that thing could be on top of you pretty quick. 

So do any locals have a picture (or map location) of this bridge to share?
 
2014-09-03 09:47:39 PM  

BalugaJoe: I hear a train a coming...


It's comin' round the bend...
 
2014-09-03 09:47:47 PM  

abhorrent1: Old news. So exciting.


To the left of the headline, you'll see a small rectangular box with some words in it. This is called the 'tag' and gives a one or two word description of the subject matter.
In this case, the word 'followup' appears. This indicates that the linked article is adding information to a story that has been previously reported. Here, the linked article explained that CSX had denied permission in writing, twice. This is information that had not been previously released, hence 'followup' information.
 
2014-09-03 09:49:10 PM  

BalugaJoe: Allman Bros. Movie.


Eat a Train
 
2014-09-03 09:50:25 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: Big Ramifications: Who the fark gets killed by a train? Didn't she hear/see it coming? Didn't any of her workmates hear/see it coming and warn her?

They were trapped on a train bridge. Think Stand By Me. They had 1/2 a minute or less to get out of the way. Making matters worse, when the train hit the bed sitting on the tracks, it sent debris flying. They were told by the director/producer that there wouldn't be any more trains that day, and that even if there was, they'd have at least a minute to get out of the way.


No, the bridge is not nearly as high as stand by me. It was a survivable drop, even if the river was dry.  www.hollywoodreporter.com . It was a survivable drop.
 
2014-09-03 09:54:14 PM  
"When you go to meet god, brother... meet him with the throttle open."
 
2014-09-03 09:54:51 PM  

CruJones: Umm, I'm not clicking on things,  too much like work


the internet is so much simpler when you don't click on things. almost like it isn't there at all.
 
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