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(Deadline)   Fox hasn't aired a single episode of Gotham yet, but Netflix has already spent millions ensuring they will have exclusive streaming rights to the show   (deadline.com) divider line 79
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2014-09-03 08:33:05 AM  
I saw the headline and got all excited thinking they'd be streaming the episodes right as they came out.  Nope.  Yawn.
 
2014-09-03 08:54:38 AM  
Well, Netflix is chock full of Sharknado crap so there you go.
 
2014-09-03 09:02:04 AM  
If they could just work as hard at actually streaming movies that are new to DVD, that would be great.

/and they need to stop resting on OITNB. First season was great, second season not nearly as much.
 
2014-09-03 09:09:37 AM  
Or as I call it....."Lil Batman"
With guest star "Lil Catwoman" (Lil Kitty?)

haveageekasm.com
 
2014-09-03 09:51:44 AM  
Other things you can stream from Netflix:
www.picturemill.com
 
2014-09-03 09:58:34 AM  
img1.wikia.nocookie.net
They stopped Gotham High before it could happen, but they're going full steam on Gotham Middle?
 
2014-09-03 10:06:43 AM  
cancelled
 
2014-09-03 10:12:14 AM  
I'm sure that strategy worked out so well for Amazon and Extant....
 
2014-09-03 10:14:09 AM  
Donal Logue is in it, so you know it's gonna last a super long time.
 
2014-09-03 10:18:51 AM  

Champion of the Sun: Donal Logue is in it, so you know it's gonna last a super long time.


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-09-03 10:19:25 AM  

moothemagiccow: [img1.wikia.nocookie.net image 584x272]
They stopped Gotham High before it could happen, but they're going full steam on Gotham Middle?


I liked that better when it was called Batman Beyond.
 
2014-09-03 10:26:12 AM  

serpent_sky: If they could just work as hard at actually streaming movies that are new to DVD, that would be great.

/and they need to stop resting on OITNB. First season was great, second season not nearly as much.


My wife is hooked on that show. I just can't get into it. After Oz, there are no prison shows worth watching.
 
2014-09-03 10:32:55 AM  
I haven't seen a thread about it yet so I will say here that I really enjoyed BoJack Horseman.
 
2014-09-03 10:36:16 AM  

CPennypacker: cancelled


Hahaha this is exactly what I thought.
 
2014-09-03 10:36:16 AM  
This show is going to be an hour of watching a sad child at the bottom of a well.
 
2014-09-03 10:37:46 AM  

Orgasmatron138: My wife is hooked on that show. I just can't get into it. After Oz, there are no prison shows worth watching.


I liked the first season and watched it pretty quickly. The second was slow and dragged a lot for me. Given all the praise and awards bestowed upon the show, though, there's no way they're not going to keep it going a few more years.
 
2014-09-03 10:44:42 AM  
Well, it's on Fox... so basically this is Netflix's plan to resurrect the show as a Netflix original after Fox cancels it halfway through the first season.
 
2014-09-03 10:45:43 AM  
Hey guys, you know that really awesome IP we have about a guy who's parents get murdered and so he trains with ninjas and dresses up as a bat, going out into the night to fight crime and eventually becoming the scourge of criminals everywhere? What if we make a TV show about the cop he kind of knows?

And then we can make TV shows about Tony Stark's secretary, the second in command of the newspaper where Peter Parker works, and some guy Clark Kent met once. People will eat it up!

STOP IT WITH THIS SHIAT
 
2014-09-03 10:47:03 AM  
That's an awful lot of money for a show that'll be cancelled before the first snow fall.
 
2014-09-03 10:47:07 AM  
So... how does this work for Hulu?  I thought they had all Fox shows; is this the future?  One streaming company gets x, z and the other gets y?  I'm thinking this will not end well for us.
 
2014-09-03 10:47:17 AM  

CPennypacker: Hey guys, you know that really awesome IP we have about a guy who's parents get murdered and so he trains with ninjas and dresses up as a bat, going out into the night to fight crime and eventually becoming the scourge of criminals everywhere? What if we make a TV show about the cop he kind of knows?

And then we can make TV shows about Tony Stark's secretary, the second in command of the newspaper where Peter Parker works, and some guy Clark Kent met once. People will eat it up!

STOP IT WITH THIS SHIAT


Hell, even doing an origins of Batman series is not very exciting at this point. Anybody who could potentially care about a show like that is more than well aware of Batman's origins and really doesn't need a new perspective on it.
 
2014-09-03 10:48:28 AM  

Orgasmatron138: serpent_sky: If they could just work as hard at actually streaming movies that are new to DVD, that would be great.

/and they need to stop resting on OITNB. First season was great, second season not nearly as much.

My wife is hooked on that show. I just can't get into it. After Oz, there are no prison shows worth watching.


I still haven't watched the second season of OITNB, but I _have_ watched the first 10 seconds many, many times.

/mmmmm... Hot Donna
 
2014-09-03 10:48:57 AM  
Could they please finally post the second season of Young Justice?
 
2014-09-03 10:49:32 AM  

serpent_sky: Orgasmatron138: My wife is hooked on that show. I just can't get into it. After Oz, there are no prison shows worth watching.

I liked the first season and watched it pretty quickly. The second was slow and dragged a lot for me. Given all the praise and awards bestowed upon the show, though, there's no way they're not going to keep it going a few more years.


I liked both seasons, although I thought the first was superior to the second. It's a Jenji Kohan show so, like Weeds, I expect it to start strong and then fail spectacularly. She had great initial ideas but doesn't seem to do well in subsequent seasons.
 
2014-09-03 10:50:42 AM  

miniflea: I haven't seen a thread about it yet so I will say here that I really enjoyed BoJack Horseman.


I only got past the first episode because it was labor day and there was no Daily Show for me to watch yesterday morning with my breakfast. The first episode was utter crap... but ended up finishing the entire season yesterday because the rest is awesome!
 
2014-09-03 10:53:13 AM  

CPennypacker: Hey guys, you know that really awesome IP we have about a guy who's parents get murdered and so he trains with ninjas and dresses up as a bat, going out into the night to fight crime and eventually becoming the scourge of criminals everywhere? What if we make a TV show about the cop he kind of knows?

And then we can make TV shows about Tony Stark's secretary, the second in command of the newspaper where Peter Parker works, and some guy Clark Kent met once. People will eat it up!

STOP IT WITH THIS SHIAT


Agreed.
 
2014-09-03 10:55:37 AM  

SmellsLikePoo: So... how does this work for Hulu?  I thought they had all Fox shows; is this the future?  One streaming company gets x, z and the other gets y?  I'm thinking this will not end well for us.


Of course it won't. I was saying that the other night when we couldn't find anything we felt like watching on Netflix.
When downloading TV shows becomes as commonplace as music, everyone is going to wonder why, and never realize it was "nobody wants to pay for Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, and seven other streaming services all at once just to watch one show here or one movie there."
 
2014-09-03 10:56:52 AM  

SmellsLikePoo: So... how does this work for Hulu?  I thought they had all Fox shows; is this the future?  One streaming company gets x, z and the other gets y?  I'm thinking this will not end well for us.


Yup, cord cutters like to brag about how much money they save by not having cable but it's going to turn into the same thing.  There might be 12 shows you like in a given year, but they're each exclusive to a different streaming network, so you end up paying $120 a month in subscription fees to get those shows plus 12 copies of the same crap content on each network.
 
2014-09-03 10:58:10 AM  

serial_crusher: SmellsLikePoo: So... how does this work for Hulu?  I thought they had all Fox shows; is this the future?  One streaming company gets x, z and the other gets y?  I'm thinking this will not end well for us.

Yup, cord cutters like to brag about how much money they save by not having cable but it's going to turn into the same thing.  There might be 12 shows you like in a given year, but they're each exclusive to a different streaming network, so you end up paying $120 a month in subscription fees to get those shows plus 12 copies of the same crap content on each network.


*cough* torrents *cough*

/because f*ck them, that's why.
 
2014-09-03 10:58:28 AM  

Copperbelly watersnake: Could they please finally post the second season of Young Justice?


Or just bring back Young Justice period.
 
2014-09-03 11:00:01 AM  
Fanboys. Guaranteed audience, no matter how much crying they do on their blogs about how it sucks afterwards. That's why we get 10 superhero movies a year, there's a guaranteed base of fools willing to part with their money.
 
2014-09-03 11:05:11 AM  

serpent_sky: Orgasmatron138: My wife is hooked on that show. I just can't get into it. After Oz, there are no prison shows worth watching.

I liked the first season and watched it pretty quickly. The second was slow and dragged a lot for me. Given all the praise and awards bestowed upon the show, though, there's no way they're not going to keep it going a few more years.


I was surprised how uncritical people were of the second season even as it hit a lot of the marks that had been previously criticized on other shows, particularly Alyssa Rosenberg's dissection of TV's mastermind problem.  Vee fit that pattern perfectly, to the point that it was actively annoying, but Lorraine Toussant was so good that people just overlooked the character's issues.
 
2014-09-03 11:06:09 AM  

The Goddamn Batman: serial_crusher: SmellsLikePoo: So... how does this work for Hulu?  I thought they had all Fox shows; is this the future?  One streaming company gets x, z and the other gets y?  I'm thinking this will not end well for us.

Yup, cord cutters like to brag about how much money they save by not having cable but it's going to turn into the same thing.  There might be 12 shows you like in a given year, but they're each exclusive to a different streaming network, so you end up paying $120 a month in subscription fees to get those shows plus 12 copies of the same crap content on each network.

*cough* torrents *cough*

/because f*ck them, that's why.


Torrents are for suckers.  I'm all about usenet.
Yeah.  I've actually been paying for a lot of shows on Amazon.  My usual MO is to steal the first couple episodes, then buy the season on Amazon if I like it.  Some guilty pleasures like Switched at Birth, I still steal though.

Netflix having exclusive rights to Gotham a year out doesn't mean diddly to me.  If it's as good as Arrow and they put it on Amazon the next day, I'll buy it.  Otherwise I'll usenet it and consider it a loan against future Netflix accessibility.

/ Biggest thing the TV companies are doing to shoot themselves in the foot is waiting to release the streaming version.  Shows are on usenet and torrents within minutes after they're done broadcasting.  Even waiting until the next morning to buy it at Amazon is inconvenient enough to make me just steal it.  They should release a paid streaming version the second the on-air broadcast starts.
 
2014-09-03 11:08:22 AM  

Jack Lambert's Missing Teeth: Fanboys. Guaranteed audience, no matter how much crying they do on their blogs about how it sucks afterwards. That's why we get 10 superhero movies a year, there's a guaranteed base of fools willing to part with their money.


As long as 2-3 are Marvel, it's all good.
 
2014-09-03 11:13:58 AM  

SmellsLikePoo: So... how does this work for Hulu?  I thought they had all Fox shows; is this the future?  One streaming company gets x, z and the other gets y?  I'm thinking this will not end well for us.


I'm guessing that Hulu will still get the show while it's airing during the season.  Netflix just gets the syndication rights.  It's the same thing with New Girl.  During the season, you can watch all the episodes on Hulu, but now they're not available because Netflix will have them in a couple of weeks.
 
2014-09-03 11:14:07 AM  
This kind of bullshiat is what's going to kill the popularity of online streaming. The whole reason to cut the cable is so you don't have to pay 60-80 bucks a month when you can watch online for free or significantly cheaper. If all these streaming sites start pulling this shiat, next thing you know you'll need to subscribe to and pay for 10-15 different sites just to see all your favorite shows, effectively eliminating the whole point of cutting the cable.
 
2014-09-03 11:16:46 AM  

serial_crusher: SmellsLikePoo: So... how does this work for Hulu?  I thought they had all Fox shows; is this the future?  One streaming company gets x, z and the other gets y?  I'm thinking this will not end well for us.

Yup, cord cutters like to brag about how much money they save by not having cable but it's going to turn into the same thing.  There might be 12 shows you like in a given year, but they're each exclusive to a different streaming network, so you end up paying $120 a month in subscription fees to get those shows plus 12 copies of the same crap content on each network.


I doubt it, honestly. I don't think there will be enough "room" in the market for enough streaming services to add up to what cable costs. Plus people share accounts... I'm using my ex's Netflix account and her friend's HBO Go account, for instance.

Those shows you can't stream though and end up having to buy on Amazon can add up though. Looking at you Mad Men.  ¬_¬
 
2014-09-03 11:17:34 AM  

Jack Lambert's Missing Teeth: Fanboys. Guaranteed audience, no matter how much crying they do on their blogs about how it sucks afterwards. That's why we get 10 superhero movies a year, there's a guaranteed base of fools willing to part with their money.


This was Paramount's business model for STAR TREK for years.  They treated the fans as a downside
guarantee, not as customers, and they complied like programmed robots (at least until STAR TREK
ENTERPRISE).

I am really not looking forward to this at all.  It reeks of focus grouping and interference from the Batman
office at WB to make sure they 'protect' the image of Batman.

THE FLASH looks a bit more interesting, frankly, since at least the character will be the focus of the
action.
 
2014-09-03 11:24:25 AM  

rugman11: I was surprised how uncritical people were of the second season even as it hit a lot of the marks that had been previously criticized on other shows, particularly Alyssa Rosenberg's dissection of TV's mastermind problem. Vee fit that pattern perfectly, to the point that it was actively annoying, but Lorraine Toussant was so good that people just overlooked the character's issues.


Yep... she was a good actress, but the character was overbearing and walked in and pretty much controlled everything that happened in the prison from moment one.  It was horrible writing.  That, and Jason Biggs (I never remember his character's name) is still incredibly boring, and I really do not understand how this prison only has one Asian person, who was just introduced this season. For a show that gets so much credit for its diversity, I felt like they were slamming that one over my head as well - as if representing everyone was like collecting Pokemon. "We got us an Asian, we're good."

Though they do deserve credit for the way Laverne Cox was used - and how her character was portrayed- at least in the first season. I honestly don't recall her doing anything much in the second, though I also think I napped through some of the episodes.
 
2014-09-03 11:24:54 AM  

Telos: miniflea: I haven't seen a thread about it yet so I will say here that I really enjoyed BoJack Horseman.

I only got past the first episode because it was labor day and there was no Daily Show for me to watch yesterday morning with my breakfast. The first episode was utter crap... but ended up finishing the entire season yesterday because the rest is awesome!


Starts off slow but it ends in a magnificently depressing fashion.  And really, how could it not?
 
2014-09-03 11:27:01 AM  

serial_crusher: Biggest thing the TV companies are doing to shoot themselves in the foot is waiting to release the streaming version.  Shows are on usenet and torrents within minutes after they're done broadcasting.  Even waiting until the next morning to buy it at Amazon is inconvenient enough to make me just steal it.  They should release a paid streaming version the second the on-air broadcast starts.


Yeah, that was kind of my point. TV companies know that people are cutting the cord, so they're making it inconvenient to access their shows legally (having to wait, having to go to different sites, sometimes making the show unavailable at all).

So, f*ck 'em. Download or stream them illegally. I have no qualms about doing so, and if the show is good, I will end up purchasing the rest of the season.

I do have Netflix, and there are some good shows on there, but $8.00 a month is about as much as I'd like to pay for television content. There is absolutely no reason to charge people $100 - $200 a month for 500 channels that they're never going to watch. I think it was Kevin Spacey who compared it to the music business. Give people what they want, at a reasonable price, and they'll buy it (and stop stealing it).
 
2014-09-03 11:29:08 AM  
Telos:

Those shows you can't stream though and end up having to buy on Amazon can add up though. Looking at you Mad Men.  ¬_¬

There's six seasons of Mad Men on Netflix.  At least in the USA.
 
2014-09-03 11:31:27 AM  

The Goddamn Batman: I do have Netflix, and there are some good shows on there, but $8.00 a month is about as much as I'd like to pay for television content. There is absolutely no reason to charge people $100 - $200 a month for 500 channels that they're never going to watch. I think it was Kevin Spacey who compared it to the music business. Give people what they want, at a reasonable price, and they'll buy it (and stop stealing it).


And they still have a chance to do so, and not repeat the mistakes the music industry made. Instead, it looks like they are trying to follow the same models that have not done much good for the music industry. (I cannot stand it when a band has multiple versions of an album - with this "bonus" song on iTunes and these two "bonus" songs for Best Buy and another one for Target... I can't imagine why someone would say "screw this" and download the album and the additional 5 songs - instead of buying three copies of the (mostly) same album to get them all.

Instead, it really looks like everything is going to be on iTunes TV or Amazon or Hulu or Netflix and unless they somehow unify content and all get pretty much everything, the model will go down the same way album sales have.
 
2014-09-03 11:35:04 AM  
I know someone who's an obsessive Batman aficionado (calling him a fan seems inadequate). He's said on several occasions that he will never watch Gotham. He's actually angry it's being made.
 
2014-09-03 11:35:08 AM  

CPennypacker: Hey guys, you know that really awesome IP we have about a guy who's parents get murdered and so he trains with ninjas and dresses up as a bat, going out into the night to fight crime and eventually becoming the scourge of criminals everywhere? What if we make a TV show about the cop he kind of knows?

And then we can make TV shows about Tony Stark's secretary, the second in command of the newspaper where Peter Parker works, and some guy Clark Kent met once. People will eat it up!

STOP IT WITH THIS SHIAT


Nah, so far all of the hints for Gotham reveal it will be worse than that. Like the producers were touting that every episode will introduce a character who could, one day, become the Joker. And apparently every side character is someone who will become a traditional Batman villain "in the future". So it sounds like it's not even a cop show, but a show that only exists to play winky-wink games with Batman geeks.
 
2014-09-03 11:36:34 AM  

serpent_sky: Instead, it really looks like everything is going to be on iTunes TV or Amazon or Hulu or Netflix and unless they somehow unify content and all get pretty much everything, the model will go down the same way album sales have.


Yep, and when it's all said and done, they'll all be standing around with their dicks in their hands blaming the "pirates." while every study says otherwise.

Actually, I take back what I said about the $8/month is as much as I'd like to pay. I'd pay double that for Netflix if they had everything available streaming right away.
 
2014-09-03 11:39:49 AM  

AnotherBluesStringer: Other things you can stream from Netflix:
[www.picturemill.com image 640x360]


I'm still waiting for my six seasons and a movie.
 
2014-09-03 11:42:10 AM  

The Goddamn Batman: serial_crusher: Biggest thing the TV companies are doing to shoot themselves in the foot is waiting to release the streaming version.  Shows are on usenet and torrents within minutes after they're done broadcasting.  Even waiting until the next morning to buy it at Amazon is inconvenient enough to make me just steal it.  They should release a paid streaming version the second the on-air broadcast starts.

Yeah, that was kind of my point. TV companies know that people are cutting the cord, so they're making it inconvenient to access their shows legally (having to wait, having to go to different sites, sometimes making the show unavailable at all).

So, f*ck 'em. Download or stream them illegally. I have no qualms about doing so, and if the show is good, I will end up purchasing the rest of the season.

I do have Netflix, and there are some good shows on there, but $8.00 a month is about as much as I'd like to pay for television content. There is absolutely no reason to charge people $100 - $200 a month for 500 channels that they're never going to watch. I think it was Kevin Spacey who compared it to the music business. Give people what they want, at a reasonable price, and they'll buy it (and stop stealing it).


What's a reasonable price though?  You're only willing to pay $8/mo for television content which, frankly, sounds ridiculous unless you're not actually consuming that much.  Others are willing to pay more.  You're also ignoring that the vast majority of television is available for free, including the very show we're talking about in this thread.  Pretty much everything that airs on the broadcast networks is available for free over-the-air and, very often, on Hulu and the networks' websites.

As for cable content, that's cost depends on how soon you want it.  Pretty much every show but the premium networks' is available on iTunes and Amazon the day after they air.  And if you're willing to wait longer, you can usually get them for free on Netflix or at your local library when the DVDs come out.

We're in a freaking Golden Age of cheaply available television.  Really, most of the complainers seem to have unreasonable price expectations.
 
2014-09-03 11:44:16 AM  

CPennypacker: Hey guys, you know that really awesome IP we have about a guy who's parents get murdered and so he trains with ninjas and dresses up as a bat, going out into the night to fight crime and eventually becoming the scourge of criminals everywhere? What if we make a TV show about the cop he kind of knows?

And then we can make TV shows about Tony Stark's secretary, the second in command of the newspaper where Peter Parker works, and some guy Clark Kent met once. People will eat it up!

STOP IT WITH THIS SHIAT


Reminds me of Patton Oswalt's rant about the Star Wars prequels:

"I DON'T GIVE A SHIAT WHERE THE STUFF I LOVE COMES FROM! I JUST LOVE THE STUFF I LOVE! Hey, do you love Angelina Jolie? Does she give you a big boner? Well then here's Jon Voight's ballsack! That's right! The sweaty, pink ballsack she swam out of. Now jerk off to that, you lucky so and so!"

Has there ever been a good prequel (besides Godfather II)?  I'm not talking about reboots that feature an origin story, I mean an honest prequel.  Maybe X-Men: First Class?

/This show sounds terrible, and that's not including the awkward boner over jailbait Catwoman
 
2014-09-03 11:55:47 AM  

rugman11: What's a reasonable price though?  You're only willing to pay $8/mo for television content which, frankly, sounds ridiculous unless you're not actually consuming that much.  Others are willing to pay more.  You're also ignoring that the vast majority of television is available for free, including the very show we're talking about in this thread.  Pretty much everything that airs on the broadcast networks is available for free over-the-air and, very often, on Hulu and the networks' websites.

As for cable content, that's cost depends on how soon you want it.  Pretty much every show but the premium networks' is available on iTunes and Amazon the day after they air.  And if you're willing to wait longer, you can usually get them for free on Netflix or at your local library when the DVDs come out.

We're in a freaking Golden Age of cheaply available television.  Really, most of the complainers seem to have unreasonable price expectations


Yeah I was being a bit facetious with that. It's more of a "this is what I'm used to now," although I do not consume that much. I only have about three or four shows a year that I actually sit down to watch. My point is the cable model is old and busted and they don't seem to see it or are unwilling to give people what they want, which is an on-demand streaming service at a reasonable price (not $100 - $200/month for drek). Maybe that's different price points for how much you consume.
 
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