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(NPR)   Q: How does a mall offer two different minimum wages? A: When it sits on the border between the cities of San Jose and Santa Clara   (npr.org) divider line 20
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2014-09-03 08:11:14 AM  
Philip Sandigo manages a shoe store on the $8-an-hour side. When San Jose raised the minimum wage, he lost about half his staff.

See, this proves what the Republicans and I have been saying all along: raising the minimum wage will cause job losses.

/ Also that information on the Internet will invariably be quoted out of context.
 
2014-09-03 08:16:49 AM  
I feel for the shoe store guy. All his highly trained podiatric outerwear specialists left for the other side of the mall and he's left with the stoners. And don't think his competition is off the hook. Not only do they need to pay their old staff higher wages, they have to pay the new staff they just poached the same higher wages. Everybody's hurt, and I know exactly who to blame.
 
2014-09-03 11:03:00 AM  
I've been to that mall. Stumbled upon a teenage girl around 10:30 AM sitting in a stairwell. She had a syringe out and was in the process of hiding it from view from me, a middle aged dude dressed in business casual.

Judging by the map she was seated in a stairwell on the Santa Clara side of Parking Structure A.


Which only goes to prove, lower minimum wages lead to teens doing drugs in stairwells at malls.
 
2014-09-03 11:34:30 AM  

rumpelstiltskin: I feel for the shoe store guy. All his highly trained podiatric outerwear specialists left for the other side of the mall and he's left with the stoners. And don't think his competition is off the hook. Not only do they need to pay their old staff higher wages, they have to pay the new staff they just poached the same higher wages. Everybody's hurt, and I know exactly who to blame.


Obama?
 
2014-09-03 11:39:10 AM  
So all the stores on the San Jose side immediately went out of business, right?  Just like we've been assured will happen if the minimum wage is raised?
 
2014-09-03 11:46:04 AM  
How does this work with regards to things like building codes and police protection? Is one side of the mall subject to different building codes than the other? If a San Jose police officer sees a crime being committed thirty feet away, is he stymied?

(I realize the police thing probably not due to various precedents, laws, and agreements, but the building code thing I'm kinda serious about.)
 
2014-09-03 12:11:19 PM  

Lord Dimwit: How does this work with regards to things like building codes and police protection? Is one side of the mall subject to different building codes than the other? If a San Jose police officer sees a crime being committed thirty feet away, is he stymied?

(I realize the police thing probably not due to various precedents, laws, and agreements, but the building code thing I'm kinda serious about.)


About 3/4 of the mall is in San Jose. I would assume, the City of San Jose issued the building permit, performed the inspections, and issued the certificate of occupancy.
 
2014-09-03 12:18:15 PM  
Deerr Im da owenuh of da shu stor I don know Y my workurs badz

Philip Sandigo manages a shoe store on the $8-an-hour side. When San Jose raised the minimum wage, he lost about half his staff.

They went to the stores on the side of the mall that paid $2 an hour more.
Sandigo asked the owners of the shoe store if he could raise wages, but they said no. Almost two years later, it's still a struggle to hire new employees.
"We get the bottom of the barrel here," Sandigo says. "Not really focused. ... One guy came in high the other day."

This sounds like a labor economist's wet dream.
 
2014-09-03 12:25:06 PM  

nocturnal001: Deerr Im da owenuh of da shu stor I don know Y my workurs badz

Philip Sandigo manages a shoe store on the $8-an-hour side. When San Jose raised the minimum wage, he lost about half his staff.

They went to the stores on the side of the mall that paid $2 an hour more.
Sandigo asked the owners of the shoe store if he could raise wages, but they said no. Almost two years later, it's still a struggle to hire new employees.
"We get the bottom of the barrel here," Sandigo says. "Not really focused. ... One guy came in high the other day."

This sounds like a labor economist's wet dream.


I figured most mall stores immediately went to the bottom if the barrel when hiring.
 
2014-09-03 12:35:53 PM  
Goddamn reality is also screwing up my Randian vision of progress.
 
2014-09-03 05:26:27 PM  
There's a move in Chicago to raise the city's minimum wage to $13 per hour, and possibly more.
The result of this will be a string of business failures along the city's borders.....but an equivalent boom
in Skokie, Morton Grove, Niles, Park Ridge, Des Plaines, Rosemont....and especially in Hammond, IN,
where they can escape Chicago, and Illinois at the same time, paying a minimum wage of...is there
a minimum below zero?  (Yes - the employees pay the boss for the privilege of working for him / her.)
 
2014-09-03 07:22:56 PM  

serial_crusher: Philip Sandigo manages a shoe store on the $8-an-hour side. When San Jose raised the minimum wage, he lost about half his staff.

See, this proves what the Republicans and I have been saying all along: raising the minimum wage will cause job losses.

/ Also that information on the Internet will invariably be quoted out of context.


HERPADERPA

The next sentence reads:

"They went to the stores on the side of the mall that paid $2 an hour more."

If by "proves" you mean "demolishes" your argument....
 
2014-09-03 08:44:38 PM  
If we are to believe the liberals around here, the stores on the high minimum wage side will flourish because their employees have so much more disposable cash to spend on the high minimum wage side. HENRY FORD!!
 
2014-09-03 11:10:25 PM  

Lord Dimwit: How does this work with regards to things like building codes and police protection? Is one side of the mall subject to different building codes than the other? If a San Jose police officer sees a crime being committed thirty feet away, is he stymied?

(I realize the police thing probably not due to various precedents, laws, and agreements, but the building code thing I'm kinda serious about.)


It was originally two separate shopping malls. In the mid '80s they were acquired by the same owner and a connector was built. It's a very large mall. There's enough for building inspectors from both cities to keep busy.

Cities in the bay area have a mutual aid agreement. Among other things, it's accepted that it may be necessary for police from one city to pursue a suspect into the next one.
 
2014-09-04 01:16:29 AM  

Wake Up Sheeple: serial_crusher: Philip Sandigo manages a shoe store on the $8-an-hour side. When San Jose raised the minimum wage, he lost about half his staff.

See, this proves what the Republicans and I have been saying all along: raising the minimum wage will cause job losses.

/ Also that information on the Internet will invariably be quoted out of context.

HERPADERPA

The next sentence reads:

"They went to the stores on the side of the mall that paid $2 an hour more."

If by "proves" you mean "demolishes" your argument....


I think serial_crusher was being sarcastic.
 
2014-09-04 05:39:14 AM  

Needlessly Complicated: Wake Up Sheeple: serial_crusher: Philip Sandigo manages a shoe store on the $8-an-hour side. When San Jose raised the minimum wage, he lost about half his staff.

See, this proves what the Republicans and I have been saying all along: raising the minimum wage will cause job losses.

/ Also that information on the Internet will invariably be quoted out of context.

HERPADERPA

The next sentence reads:

"They went to the stores on the side of the mall that paid $2 an hour more."

If by "proves" you mean "demolishes" your argument....

I think serial_crusher was being sarcastic.


I'd like to hear it from him.
 
2014-09-04 07:30:12 AM  

Wake Up Sheeple: Needlessly Complicated: Wake Up Sheeple: serial_crusher: Philip Sandigo manages a shoe store on the $8-an-hour side. When San Jose raised the minimum wage, he lost about half his staff.

See, this proves what the Republicans and I have been saying all along: raising the minimum wage will cause job losses.

/ Also that information on the Internet will invariably be quoted out of context.

HERPADERPA

The next sentence reads:

"They went to the stores on the side of the mall that paid $2 an hour more."

If by "proves" you mean "demolishes" your argument....

I think serial_crusher was being sarcastic.

I'd like to hear it from him.


You did. Read the slashie.

/I know a lot of folks don't.
//So they've been missing out on the boobies I hide here.
 
2014-09-04 08:08:05 AM  

IlGreven: Wake Up Sheeple: Needlessly Complicated: Wake Up Sheeple: serial_crusher: Philip Sandigo manages a shoe store on the $8-an-hour side. When San Jose raised the minimum wage, he lost about half his staff.

See, this proves what the Republicans and I have been saying all along: raising the minimum wage will cause job losses.

/ Also that information on the Internet will invariably be quoted out of context.

HERPADERPA

The next sentence reads:

"They went to the stores on the side of the mall that paid $2 an hour more."

If by "proves" you mean "demolishes" your argument....

I think serial_crusher was being sarcastic.

I'd like to hear it from him.

You did. Read the slashie.

/I know a lot of folks don't.
//So they've been missing out on the boobies I hide here.


Oh, I read it several times before I commented. The best I'm going to give him here is Poe's Law.
 
2014-09-04 11:01:07 AM  

Wake Up Sheeple: IlGreven: Wake Up Sheeple: Needlessly Complicated: Wake Up Sheeple: serial_crusher: Philip Sandigo manages a shoe store on the $8-an-hour side. When San Jose raised the minimum wage, he lost about half his staff.

See, this proves what the Republicans and I have been saying all along: raising the minimum wage will cause job losses.

/ Also that information on the Internet will invariably be quoted out of context.

HERPADERPA

The next sentence reads:

"They went to the stores on the side of the mall that paid $2 an hour more."

If by "proves" you mean "demolishes" your argument....

I think serial_crusher was being sarcastic.

I'd like to hear it from him.

You did. Read the slashie.

/I know a lot of folks don't.
//So they've been missing out on the boobies I hide here.

Oh, I read it several times before I commented. The best I'm going to give him here is Poe's Law.


Yes, I was indeed being sarcastic.
 
2014-09-04 04:57:06 PM  
serial_crusher:
Yes, I was indeed being sarcastic.

Thanks for the reply. My bad.
 
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