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(AZ Family)   If you've just gotten out of prison earlier this morning, do you think you could at least have the courtesy to wait until after your 'Welcome Home' party before you shoot a guy in the parking lot?   (azfamily.com) divider line 52
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2014-09-03 11:11:08 AM  
1. Get out of jail
2. Go home
3. Steal some money from a guy and punch him in the face
4. Celebrate freedom with family
5. Shoot the same guy you stole from in the face and back of head
6. Go smoke meth with buddies.

7. Then you turn yourself in and claim self defense.

8. Profit?
 
2014-09-03 11:45:22 AM  
They've got a name for people like you Ignacio. That name is called "recidivism."
Repeat offender!
Not a pretty name, is it Ignacio?
 
2014-09-03 12:09:55 PM  
Ouch! Right in the parking lot. That's got to hurt.
 
2014-09-03 12:13:24 PM  

cgraves67: Ouch! Right in the parking lot. That's got to hurt.


Is that like a landing strip, but bigger?
 
2014-09-03 12:13:25 PM  
FTFA: The homicide occurred outside a residence near Broadway Road and Mesa Drive where Lomeli was gathering with relatives to celebrate his freedom.

I used to live right there circa 1994-95. It was the ghetto then. Apparently it still is.
 
2014-09-03 12:14:06 PM  
No cool esé, not cool .
 
2014-09-03 12:14:47 PM  
Well guess he wont be seeing the light of day anytime soon.
 
2014-09-03 12:15:45 PM  
If what's in TFA is true, take him out back and shoot him in the head.

I'm not kidding.
 
2014-09-03 12:15:58 PM  
Lomeli told police that he stole money from a man after punching him in the face earlier in the day.

so I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest this guy wasn't rehabilitated in prison.
 
2014-09-03 12:16:26 PM  
So
 
2014-09-03 12:16:28 PM  
22-year-old Ignacio Eide Lomeli had been in prison on charges of aggravated domestic violence, parole violations and drug and alcohol use

Wow. 22 years old and already in prison on multiple charges.
 
2014-09-03 12:16:49 PM  
Try not to shoot anyone on your way to the parking lot
 
2014-09-03 12:17:24 PM  
Could they say 'Lomeli' more in the article?  Just a few hundred more times?

/Lomeli
//Dino M Zaffina
 
2014-09-03 12:17:31 PM  
I'd imagine, once the shooting occurred...

at that point, It became "after" the welcome home party.
 
2014-09-03 12:19:45 PM  

Nadie_AZ: 1. Get out of jail
2. Go home
3. Steal some money from a guy and punch him in the face
4. Celebrate freedom with family
5. Shoot the same guy you stole from in the face and back of head
6. Go smoke meth with buddies.

7. Then you turn yourself in and claim self defense.

8. Profit?


If he was a cop, seeing the nail gun in the car would have been enough to justify the shooting.
 
2014-09-03 12:20:29 PM  
Only 22, I wonder how shiatty their programming is for the offenders?  Or, maybe he just likes not having responsibilities.
 
2014-09-03 12:23:17 PM  
Delta1212:

If he was a cop, seeing the nail gun in the car would have been enough to justify the shooting.

Nail guns are not to be trifled with.

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2014-09-03 12:23:32 PM  
Just 22 and his life is over. Too bad, this brainiac would have eventually cured cancer and  brought peace to the Middle East but for this one bad day.
 
2014-09-03 12:25:21 PM  
that's what happens without birth control
 
2014-09-03 12:25:53 PM  
So how long is it going to take for our government to realize this system isn't that effective? It's becoming a retarded cycle: crime jail, get out.... Crime, jail, get out..... Crime, jail, get out. Personally in this case i believe that sending this guy back to prison won't be effective, since it so obviously helped the first time...... This is why we need to execute biatches like this, pure and simple. He did crime, then served time, then got out. That should be the one freebie that everyone gets, then they're done. This guy farked it up hours after getting released, so does prison really seem like a viable option at this point?
 
2014-09-03 12:31:06 PM  

Dirty J1: So how long is it going to take for our government to realize this system isn't that effective? It's becoming a retarded cycle: crime jail, get out.... Crime, jail, get out..... Crime, jail, get out. Personally in this case i believe that sending this guy back to prison won't be effective, since it so obviously helped the first time...... This is why we need to execute biatches like this, pure and simple. He did crime, then served time, then got out. That should be the one freebie that everyone gets, then they're done. This guy farked it up hours after getting released, so does prison really seem like a viable option at this point?


Crime runs in families and groups. Some parents are proud that their children are jumped into their parents' gangs. They raise their children to be dealers, murderers, thieves, etc. and celebrate their off-springs' failings as proof of their parenting skills.

The way you stop these guys from being created is to seize all gang assets and put the children in foster care. But that will never happen because guys like this killer always pay money upstream. That's why they're poor. They can make lots of money stealing and killing--they just can't keep it because it goes upstream to rich people in the community.
 
2014-09-03 12:31:13 PM  
What the fark is a Lomeli?
 
2014-09-03 12:31:16 PM  
A tragic victim if society.  I expect some liberal law students are already working on his release, and Susan Sarandon will make a film about the whole thing.

Or maybe not.  Guys like this are why "POOR IMPULSE CONTROL" forehead tattoos should be a real thing.
 
2014-09-03 12:31:19 PM  
Why the surprise he's 22? Some people are just born farked. So they locked him up in a box for some unspecified amount of time. The only people who think prison is rehabilitative haven't been to prison.
 
2014-09-03 12:34:06 PM  
Yeah, yeah. Farking mobile.
 
2014-09-03 12:35:38 PM  

Headso: Lomeli told police that he stole money from a man after punching him in the face earlier in the day.

so I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest this guy wasn't rehabilitated in prison.


Rehabilitation? That costs money and is anathema to the for-profit prison industry.
 
2014-09-03 12:35:51 PM  
Well Ignacio, you had a hell of a first day out, didn't you?

Strong arm robbery
Assault and Battery
Felon in possession of a weapon(gun)
2nd degree murder(at least)
drug possession

At least he was honest with the cops.  I don't think Ignacio is going to have to deal with another "first day out of prison" anytime soon.
 
2014-09-03 12:39:14 PM  
Geez. people. It's not like he could show up to the party empty-handed. Even the guest of honor is expected to bring some small hostess gift.
 
2014-09-03 12:40:52 PM  

Delta1212: Nadie_AZ: 1. Get out of jail
2. Go home
3. Steal some money from a guy and punch him in the face
4. Celebrate freedom with family
5. Shoot the same guy you stole from in the face and back of head
6. Go smoke meth with buddies.

7. Then you turn yourself in and claim self defense.

8. Profit?

If he was a cop, seeing the nail gun in the car would have been enough to justify the shooting.


That was this guys justification.

"Police said Lomeli told them the victim did not get out of his vehicle or make any threatening statements. He said he shot the man after he saw what he believed was a weapon in the vehicle."
 
2014-09-03 12:41:21 PM  
Apparently, Sheriff Joe's programs aren't having a positive affect on this guy.
 
2014-09-03 12:41:56 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-09-03 12:43:31 PM  

AGremlin: They've got a name for people like you Ignacio. That name is called "recidivism."
Repeat offender!
Not a pretty name, is it Ignacio?


Well ok then.
 
2014-09-03 12:43:53 PM  

justalittledonedout: Why the surprise he's 22? Some people are just born farked. So they locked him up in a box for some unspecified amount of time. The only people who think prison is rehabilitative haven't been to prison.


I used to have a job that had me visiting the NY State prisons on a regular basis.  I would talk to the COs all the time and one of them told me that prison life is like high school where the popular kids are all rapists and murderers.
 
2014-09-03 12:45:11 PM  

The5thElement: Apparently, Sheriff Joe's programs aren't having a positive affect on this guy.


Perhaps he could have used Sheriff Joe's program... maybe county jail would have been better for him than state prison.
 
2014-09-03 12:46:14 PM  
Dirt bags gonna dirt.
 
2014-09-03 12:46:38 PM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs:  They can make lots of money stealing and killing--they just can't keep it because it goes upstream to rich people in the community.

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You have a problem with this scenario??
 
2014-09-03 12:49:01 PM  

AGremlin: They've got a name for people like you Ignacio. That name is called "recidivism."
Repeat offender!
Not a pretty name, is it Ignacio?


Love it, my personal favorite movie starring nic cage, I know, not saying much
 
2014-09-03 12:49:02 PM  

Callous: justalittledonedout: Why the surprise he's 22? Some people are just born farked. So they locked him up in a box for some unspecified amount of time. The only people who think prison is rehabilitative haven't been to prison.

I used to have a job that had me visiting the NY State prisons on a regular basis.  I would talk to the COs all the time and one of them told me that prison life is like high school where the popular kids are all rapists and murderers.


So, exactly like high school.
 
2014-09-03 12:53:40 PM  

Callous: justalittledonedout: Why the surprise he's 22? Some people are just born farked. So they locked him up in a box for some unspecified amount of time. The only people who think prison is rehabilitative haven't been to prison.

I used to have a job that had me visiting the NY State prisons on a regular basis.  I would talk to the COs all the time and one of them told me that prison life is like high school where the popular kids are all rapists and murderers.


Jesus! Where did that CO go to high school? The popular kids at my school were athletes and cheerleaders.
 
2014-09-03 12:55:54 PM  

JohnCarter: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs:  They can make lots of money stealing and killing--they just can't keep it because it goes upstream to rich people in the community.

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You have a problem with this scenario??


No, Godfather.
 
2014-09-03 12:56:02 PM  

oh_please: If what's in TFA is true, take him out back and shoot him in the head.

I'm not kidding.


Why not just cut off his head with a hunting knife and release the video of it to show people that this behavior isn't acceptable?

I'd rather live in a country with due process, thanks very much.
 
2014-09-03 01:03:46 PM  
It's really f*cking cool how you can spend a stupid amount of time typing up a post on Fark these days just to have it totally disappear upon submission. Seriously... awesome feature, Drew and totally doesn't make this site a useless, annoying f*cksticle in comparison to its former glory.

Stay golden.
 
2014-09-03 01:08:15 PM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Wow. 22 years old and already in prison on multiple charges.


The best part, in order to be out by 22 on all those multiple felonies he probably got paroled, despite parole violation being one of the offenses.
 
2014-09-03 01:08:42 PM  

lostcat: oh_please: If what's in TFA is true, take him out back and shoot him in the head.

I'm not kidding.

Why not just cut off his head with a hunting knife and release the video of it to show people that this behavior isn't acceptable?

I'd rather live in a country with due process, thanks very much.


No, nobody needs to see an execution. Absolutely, give him due process. If it turns out to be true that, within HOURS of being released from prison, he robbed someone, then killed someone else, he'll never be a productive member of society. Either he's too stupid, too violent, or both. Buh-bye.
 
2014-09-03 01:11:18 PM  
I agree with those saying that the prison systems are farked.

Many prisons are run by corporations with investors, so they are concerned about profit above all else. They also benefit from having as many inmates as possible. The incentive for programs that can actually help a person improve themselves before release are minimal, and probably only provided because of a mandate from the state.

I met a woman who has taught college-level courses for inmates at San Quentin a few years ago. She said that those programs are incredibly important, and many inmates actively participate.

A lot of people are in prison for incidents that escalated unexpectedly, or even mistakes. Then there are the people in prison for non-violent offenses like drug possession. Not everyone in prison is a danger to society. There are a lot of people who get screwed by minimum sentencing rules and unfortunate circumstances.

Then there are people like this Lomeli guy. This isn't a regular guy who's just too stupid to know right from wrong. He either has a major disorder (e.g. psychotic), or he has some major issues that cause him to act this way. Either way, this guy needs to be taken out of society. He should be in prison, and under evaluation to determine if he could ever be released again. I'm guessing not in this guy's case.

I'm not a supporter of the death penalty because I really don't see a huge difference between ISIS beheading someone and the state pumping them full of chemicals to kill them. But I don't have any problem with people being incarcerated until they die, especially if the penal system can be reformed so that they are not dangerously over capacity.
 
2014-09-03 01:30:05 PM  
Did Lomeli know the nail gun was ready to fire? Maybe the sound of the compressor kicking on spooked Lomeli. Perhaps it was one of those assassin type battery powered nail guns with a high capacity clip. Lomeli might have stopped the carnage of a drive-by nailing. Lomeli was about to get framed.
 
2014-09-03 01:54:32 PM  

lostcat: I agree with those saying that the prison systems are farked.

Many prisons are run by corporations with investors, so they are concerned about profit above all else. They also benefit from having as many inmates as possible. The incentive for programs that can actually help a person improve themselves before release are minimal, and probably only provided because of a mandate from the state.


Not in CA. The prison system is NOT private and is a huge drain on the budget. They are trying to get rid of as many inmates as possible.

A lot of people are in prison for incidents that escalated unexpectedly, or even mistakes. Then there are the people in prison for non-violent offenses like drug possession. Not everyone in prison is a danger to society. There are a lot of people who get screwed by minimum sentencing rules and unfortunate circumstances.

Again, not in CA. Inmates are pretty hard core. And they don't send people to prison for "drug possession". They send them to prison because they were robbing or assaulting someone while possessing drugs, or selling crack/heroin/cocaine/meth. Of course you're in "possession" of the drugs you're selling.

I'm not a supporter of the death penalty because I really don't see a huge difference between ISIS beheading someone and the state pumping them full of chemicals to kill them. But I don't have any problem with people being incarcerated until they die, especially if the penal system can be reformed so that they are not dangerously over capacity.

Please. ISIS kills innocent people. You're saying what they do is the same as the state taking out someone who murdered a child (after raping them) and burying them in a shallow grave in their backyard.
 
2014-09-03 02:04:04 PM  

Dirty J1: So how long is it going to take for our government to realize this system isn't that effective?


Oh, there's a WHOLE lot more going on that just a broken system!  This guy has SERIOUS mental issues, such as a complete lack of empathy, or concern over the consequences of one's actions (can he even contemplate those consequences, or does his imagination go no further than 18-36 hours?), etc.

I'd wager there was a whole lot of killing small animals when he was very young.

Dude ain't right in the head!!!
 
2014-09-03 02:53:13 PM  
Some things just can't wait.
 
2014-09-03 03:02:37 PM  

Crass and Jaded Mother Farker: I'd imagine, once the shooting occurred...

at that point, It became "after" the welcome home party.


Why would they break up the party just because someone got murdered? They still had meth to smoke.
 
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