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2014-09-02 11:07:53 AM
Which will be the first big airline to test the waters and lock down all the seats at a permanent 1" recline?

Once one does it without massive passenger outcry, they'll all do it.

Then, we're another few feet down the slippery slope to "Delta: OUR Passenger Cages, um, we mean 'Personal Comfort Pods' are only stacked THREE high and the first hamster bottle of tap water is free*."

*with prepaid water service surcharge of $25 per flight leg
 
2014-09-02 12:22:56 PM
They have to stop diverting flights because of pricks having a fight. It's ridiculous.
 
2014-09-02 12:23:06 PM
More fights over declining airline seats


Fox News gets it wrong again.
 
2014-09-02 12:23:17 PM
Oops. He followed and touched the crew. He done goofed.
 
2014-09-02 12:24:02 PM
i thought that the fights were the in-flight entertainment i paid extra for
 
2014-09-02 12:24:07 PM
How farking far do airplane seats recline?  The seats on Amtrak recline nicely and barely impede into the space of the person behind you.. Why can't airlines do this?
 
2014-09-02 12:25:23 PM
If I have paid for a seat, it's usually on a long hall flight. I am going to recline my f*cking chair and get some rest. If you're behind me and feel claustrophobic, recline your f*cking chair so you've got your space back.

Done.

It is not rude to recline a chair. It is not invading your space because it's not *your* space. You haven't paid for a cube of air to sit in, you've paid for a chair, with a recline button.

And if this annoys you to the point of violence, ask your doctor if Xanax would be right for you. Or cyanide.
 
2014-09-02 12:25:37 PM
I know some people don't know airline seat reclining etiquette, but this
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is passive-aggressive douchy.
 
2014-09-02 12:26:04 PM
I know they mean well but all the big dudes saying "I'm 6'5" and have to scrunch like a pretzel" are not helping. Obviously they have trouble fitting into seats, and probably always have. The problem now is that the seats are ridiculously small and cramped for EVERYONE. I'm 5'8" and slightly built, and last time I flew had my knees against the seat in front of me, six inches from my chest, and my toes just touching the deck for the whole flight. Luckily it was a shortish flight. Transatlantic? I'd have needed a wheelchair to deplane.
 
2014-09-02 12:27:22 PM
Tiny, whiny minority.
 
2014-09-02 12:27:42 PM
Everyone is special, except for everyone else.
 
2014-09-02 12:27:54 PM

styckx: How farking far do airplane seats recline?  The seats on Amtrak recline nicely and barely impede into the space of the person behind you.. Why can't airlines do this?


Amtrak gives you legroom. Airlines shrink seats down via less padding in the bottom and the back, taking out a row or 2 of "first class", and shifting seat rows around to get another row in. They know people will pay because we don't like driving long distances and just want to get there. Plus train travel in this country is basically a joke outside of a few areas.
 
2014-09-02 12:28:47 PM
Grow up people.
 
2014-09-02 12:29:35 PM
Seat Reclining People need to be rounded up and sent to a camp.  A tiny camp with very small chairs.
 
2014-09-02 12:31:24 PM

BalugaJoe: Grow up people.


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2014-09-02 12:31:43 PM

styckx: How farking far do airplane seats recline?  The seats on Amtrak recline nicely and barely impede into the space of the person behind you.. Why can't airlines do this?


Airline seats barely recline at all - it's just that a lot of people are douchebags and want to complain that they are suffering the tortures of the damned - the tortures of the damned (let that sink in) if the person in front of them dares to use a feature offered to them by the airline.
 
2014-09-02 12:32:48 PM

eagles95: styckx: How farking far do airplane seats recline?  The seats on Amtrak recline nicely and barely impede into the space of the person behind you.. Why can't airlines do this?

Amtrak gives you legroom. Airlines shrink seats down via less padding in the bottom and the back, taking out a row or 2 of "first class", and shifting seat rows around to get another row in. They know people will pay because we don't like driving long distances and just want to get there. Plus train travel in this country is basically a joke outside of a few areas.


I did Amtrak from Philly to Seattle,  and Southern California and then back.. Sure it was almost a week spent just traveling and was more expensive (got a roomette) but the experience was great.
 
2014-09-02 12:33:08 PM

styckx: How farking far do airplane seats recline?  The seats on Amtrak recline nicely and barely impede into the space of the person behind you.. Why can't airlines do this?


Airline seats recline about the same as Amtrak seats do.  The problem is, airlines pack their seats in far more densely, so the same angle of recline ends up banging my tray table into my legs and your headrest into my face.
 
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2014-09-02 12:33:46 PM
Yay! Another pro VS anti reclining thread!

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2014-09-02 12:34:11 PM

styckx: eagles95: styckx: How farking far do airplane seats recline?  The seats on Amtrak recline nicely and barely impede into the space of the person behind you.. Why can't airlines do this?

Amtrak gives you legroom. Airlines shrink seats down via less padding in the bottom and the back, taking out a row or 2 of "first class", and shifting seat rows around to get another row in. They know people will pay because we don't like driving long distances and just want to get there. Plus train travel in this country is basically a joke outside of a few areas.

I did Amtrak from Philly to Seattle,  and Southern California and then back.. Sure it was almost a week spent just traveling and was more expensive (got a roomette) but the experience was great.


I've done Amtrak from LA to Seattle.  It was magnificent.  38 hours in coach on a train feels so much better than 3 hours in economy on a plane.
 
2014-09-02 12:34:39 PM
Coming soon: Airlines offering an extra 2" of legroom and offsetting the reduced passenger capacity by draining a quart of blood out of passengers at the terminal and shipping luggage by UPS Ground. Because god forbid they increase the price of a ticket to cover actual costs.
 
2014-09-02 12:34:59 PM

gfid: styckx: How farking far do airplane seats recline?  The seats on Amtrak recline nicely and barely impede into the space of the person behind you.. Why can't airlines do this?

Airline seats barely recline at all - it's just that a lot of people are douchebags and want to complain that they are suffering the tortures of the damned - the tortures of the damned (let that sink in) if the person in front of them dares to use a feature offered to them by the airline.


Much of that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
2014-09-02 12:35:01 PM
Actually I'm just really glad I don't often travel with Americans, who seem to be whiny as f*ck in the air.

It's just a few hours, get over yourself.
 
2014-09-02 12:35:23 PM
How about some sort of warning light when the person in front of you is about to recline their seat? That way you can pick up your drink so it doesn't get knocked into your lap.

As for the "I reclined my seat so the person behind me should recline theirs" logic, that works great until you get to the back row. What then? Then what?
 
2014-09-02 12:35:46 PM
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2014-09-02 12:36:25 PM

HeartBurnKid: styckx: How farking far do airplane seats recline?  The seats on Amtrak recline nicely and barely impede into the space of the person behind you.. Why can't airlines do this?

Airline seats recline about the same as Amtrak seats do.  The problem is, airlines pack their seats in far more densely, so the same angle of recline ends up banging my tray table into my legs and your headrest into my face.


This. I don't want to smell someone else's head for the next five hours.
At least in the cargo hold, we can have fistfights to see who gets to sleep on top of the bags of mail.
 
2014-09-02 12:37:28 PM

Slaxl: They have to stop diverting flights because of pricks having a fight. It's ridiculous.


I expect they follow this protocol because a fight in a sealed tube at 30,000 feet could be far more dangerous than one on a train, subway or bus. A puncture in the hall, damage to wiring or simply panic could put the entire craft, crew or compartment at risk.

It may be over-caution most of the time, but the rest of the time the costs are very high. Given the litigious nature of Americans in particular, there could be a massive lawsuit at the very least.

The innocent always pay, of course, when somebody misbehaves.
 
2014-09-02 12:37:29 PM

HeartBurnKid: 38 hours in coach on a train feels so much better than 3 hours in economy on a plan


Really?  Because I think I'd rather kill myself than spend 38 hours on a train.

3 hours on an airplane only makes me want to kill other people.

/great, now I've probably been put on a no-fly list
 
2014-09-02 12:38:32 PM

gfid: styckx: How farking far do airplane seats recline?  The seats on Amtrak recline nicely and barely impede into the space of the person behind you.. Why can't airlines do this?

Airline seats barely recline at all - it's just that a lot of people are douchebags and want to complain that they are suffering the tortures of the damned - the tortures of the damned (let that sink in) if the person in front of them dares to use a feature offered to them by the airline.


^^^^
Agreed.
 
2014-09-02 12:38:32 PM

Gothnet


If I have paid for a seat, it's usually on a long hall flight.


Yeah, you totally sound knowledgeable.
 
2014-09-02 12:38:46 PM
It's so selfish and inconsiderate when people want to recline their seats despite making me uncomfortable.

The fact that I want you to be uncomfortable and NOT recline to better accommodate me is a wholly different matter.
 
2014-09-02 12:40:17 PM
This thread will be full of assholes being dicks to douchebags, complaining that they're just using a feature provided by the airline, or that it's tantamount to an assault on their person for someone to recline in front of them. There will also be people talking up their frequent flyer miles and laughing out the side of their face at how bad they think everyone else is at flying, like there's some kind of art to it. My personal favorites are the ones who just say you should buy a more expensive seat if you don't like it.

And not a single one will think to blame the airlines for creating this situation by forcing passengers into such tiny spaces for hours on end. The few that acknowledge the problem will deflect it back onto passengers by saying that it's not the airlines' fault that people won't pay more for seats with more room (which isn't true).

This is all about profit and volume. Airlines don't consider passengers to be people, not as individuals. You're a commodity, a package, nothing more.

My opinion? The real solution to this problem is for Congress to mandate minimum space and basic ergonomic requirements for airline seats across the board and force the airlines to implement them over the course of the next few years. Then no one can complain that people only buy the cheapest seat and avoid the ones with room.

That won't happen, of course. But people will still act tough about what they'll do to other people on airplanes who recline their seat in front of them or to the guy behind them who won't let them.
 
2014-09-02 12:40:27 PM
On an airplane is about the only time I am happy I am short.  With all the advantages that society gives to the tall, white male, I have no issue with them suffering a bit on the airplane.

/Not tall
//Not white
 
2014-09-02 12:41:41 PM
I'm 6'1" and I have no trouble at all fitting even into coach seats, and don't really care if the person in front of me reclines.
 
2014-09-02 12:42:45 PM

gfid: styckx: How farking far do airplane seats recline?  The seats on Amtrak recline nicely and barely impede into the space of the person behind you.. Why can't airlines do this?

Airline seats barely recline at all - it's just that a lot of people are douchebags and want to complain that they are suffering the tortures of the damned - the tortures of the damned (let that sink in) if the person in front of them dares to use a feature offered to them by the airline.


Or you can be the bigger person and not recline if it bothers them that much.

No? I guess 'barely' reclining doesn't to make a difference to the person behind you but it makes a world of difference to your comfort.
 
2014-09-02 12:42:46 PM

gfid: HeartBurnKid: 38 hours in coach on a train feels so much better than 3 hours in economy on a plan

Really?  Because I think I'd rather kill myself than spend 38 hours on a train.

3 hours on an airplane only makes me want to kill other people.

/great, now I've probably been put on a no-fly list


Try Amtrak some time.  Seriously.  It's great.  The seats are comfortable, and have actual legroom.  Plus, there's a car with a full-service restaurant, and another with a snack bar, tables, and big windows to watch the scenery go by.  As long as you're not averse to socializing, it's a lot of fun.

Of course, every time I've done the LA to Seattle trip, I was going to and from PAX, and was surrounded by people with common interests.  But it was still a great experience.
 
2014-09-02 12:43:16 PM

Gothnet: If I have paid for a seat, it's usually on a long hall flight. I am going to recline my f*cking chair and get some rest. If you're behind me and feel claustrophobic, recline your f*cking chair so you've got your space back.

Done...


Actually if you'd paid attention you'd know it doesn't work that way. Reclining *my* seat doesn't get me any more room for my knees or legs. But it does open up a few inches of space between my upper body and the back of the seat in front of me and puts my body in a more comfortable position for snoozing, but there is no change in leg room.
 
2014-09-02 12:43:59 PM

Slaxl: They have to stop diverting flights because of pricks having a fight. It's ridiculous.


1st thing I noticed.  Fox, you are a bunch of idiots.
 
2014-09-02 12:44:33 PM

Gothnet: Actually I'm just really glad I don't often travel with Americans, who seem to be whiny as f*ck in the air.

It's just a few hours, get over yourself.


it'd help if our domestic airlines didn't have a 'fark you' approach to accommodating us. i've been wondering which airline will finally pull the trigger and have a standing-room-only flight, with those rails like they have on subways and buses for passengers to hang on to.

personally i try to fly via non-US owned/operated airlines if i can help it. virgin is pretty nice.
 
2014-09-02 12:45:46 PM
I travel weekly, most flights 2-3 hours, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies....

Fully reclining your seat is a douche move.  I agree it would be nice if we all had enough room to be comfortable in the way that we would individually prefer, but the airlines have pretty much rendered that moot.  I've had one cracked laptop screen, and several other close calls because some dick who assumed he had the right to take my space suddenly reclined - trapping my laptop screen under the lip of the tray storage. As soon as the seat is reclined there is no way to get work done - your screen has to be about 30% closed due to the angle of the seat in front.  It sucks ass.  I would WAY prefer to recline myself, but I'm evolved enough to get that my comfort is not more important than the person behind me.  Radical, I know.
 
2014-09-02 12:46:13 PM

HeartBurnKid: Try Amtrak some time.  Seriously.  It's great.  The seats are comfortable, and have actual legroom.  Plus, there's a car with a full-service restaurant, and another with a snack bar, tables, and big windows to watch the scenery go by.  As long as you're not averse to socializing, it's a lot of fun.


This. The Coast Starlight is amazing. I would get a bottle of wine (a half bottle or carafe, I think) with dinner, and then take what I hadn't drunk and the glass to the observation car in the evening. Sitting there with a glass of wine watching the scenery slide on by was very nice.

I loathe long-distance travel, but if I can't ride my motorcycle, I'll try for a train.
 
2014-09-02 12:46:18 PM

Cyclometh: But people will still act tough about what they'll do to other people on airplanes who recline their seat in front of them or to the guy behind them who won't let them.


actually in either situation I will sit there meekly and let whatever happens, happen.  Life is too short to be a douchebag over something of as little importance as my means of conveyance from point A to point B.
 
2014-09-02 12:46:44 PM
This is all a result of airlines trying to squeeze in an extra row of seats at the cost of 2 inches of leg room. So I say fark em and get in fights. Make them have to divert flights and cause huge delays to the rest of the passengers because the airlines got greedy.
 
2014-09-02 12:47:26 PM

HeartBurnKid: As long as you're not averse to socializing, it's a lot of fun.


...and if you are, there's a "quiet car" in back.
 
2014-09-02 12:51:24 PM

Boojum2k: I'm 6'1" and I have no trouble at all fitting even into coach seats, and don't really care if the person in front of me reclines.


Exactly.  I'm 5'11" and overweight.  I just took a trip to Hong Kong with short notice and flew economy with United Airlines.  I had no trouble with the leg room or with the guy in front reclining.  I did not recline on the way there, but on the way back, I was dead tired (cue the movie "Commando") that I did.  The only discomfort that I felt was that I needed to stand up every once in a while to stretch my legs.  You pay for what you get.   I am aware that someone could recline that is in front of me and accept that.  If I didn't, then I would consider other options.
 
2014-09-02 12:51:29 PM

Cyclometh: And not a single one will think to blame the airlines for creating this situation by forcing passengers into such tiny spaces for hours on end.


Okay, let's just talk about which airline is the worst then.  I would vote for Northwest Airlines, but they don't exist anymore.

I'm not sure who I hate the most now - how about all of them?

Especially American Airlines.

Seriously, fark those guys.
 
2014-09-02 12:52:20 PM

Gothnet: Actually I'm just really glad I don't often travel with Americans, who seem to be whiny as f*ck in the air.

It's just a few hours, get over yourself.



Most of us are just whiny assholes, regardless of where we are or what situation we are in.
 
2014-09-02 12:55:06 PM
If you politely ask me not to recline due to X issue, I'll gladly help you out.  Just don't be a passive-aggressive dick.

/just booked an economy ticket to Paris...awesome
 
2014-09-02 12:55:23 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: More fights over declining airline seats


Fox News gets it wrong again.


They made a typo, you embarrassed yourself.  Although you probably don't see how.
 
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