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2014-09-02 09:31:47 AM  
Look Israel, it's never going to work out over there.
You are surrounded by insane people who absolutely hate you and always will.
Get out while you can, let the middle east implode.
There must be another Exodus, or there will be another Holocaust.

It's just a matter of time
 
2014-09-02 10:01:29 AM  
Strongly worded letter. Fewer weapons. Same thing.
 
2014-09-02 10:21:45 AM  

Il Douchey: Look Israel, it's never going to work out over there.
You are surrounded by insane people who absolutely hate you and always will.
Get out while you can, let the middle east implode.
There must be another Exodus, or there will be another Holocaust.

It's just a matter of time


You really think so?  Because they've managed to kick the ass of every single one of their neighbors repeatedly so far.
 
2014-09-02 10:33:25 AM  
was subby having a stroke when he/she wrote that headline?
 
2014-09-02 10:34:01 AM  
USofA urges Israel to rethink, reverse plan to seizure of Palistinian land in West Bank, threatens strongly worded letter; Principal Caught, Sayof wanted for questioning

Subby seemingly randomly capitalizing letters.

Let's take a closer look....


USAIPWBPCS

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Are
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Working
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Study it out....
 
2014-09-02 10:35:06 AM  
nekom: You really think so?  Because they've managed to kick the ass of every single one of their neighbors repeatedly so far.

I hope not, but yes, I really think so
 
2014-09-02 10:36:19 AM  

Il Douchey: Look Israel, it's never going to work out over there.
You are surrounded by insane people who absolutely hate you and always will.
Get out while you can, let the middle east implode.
There must be another Exodus, or there will be another Holocaust.

It's just a matter of time


Will be? It's been going on for a while now.

What extremely extraordinary in this situation is the relation between US and Israel. The relationship is like with an abusive girlfriend who won't put out. Eventually, something ought to take over the lobbying power that forces this abusive relationship onto the people of USA. I can only hope, these are the signs that it would eventually come to an end.
 
2014-09-02 10:36:32 AM  
And West Bankers respond by...hold on, no rocket fire? And no plans for an IDF incursion/military response in response to this non-firing of rockets? They're going to (it seems) handle this diplomatically?

Take note, Gaza. This is how you keep your streets from exploding.

// sure, it means Israel walks all over you for a few weeks, but...oh, wait
// DAMMIT BIBI, this is why no one wants you to have nice things
 
2014-09-02 10:40:12 AM  
Maybe the Palestinians should stop making war on Israel if the don't want to lose real estate.
 
2014-09-02 10:40:30 AM  

Il Douchey: Look Israel, it's never going to work out over there.
You are surrounded by insane people who absolutely hate you and always will.
Get out while you can, let the middle east implode.
There must be another Exodus, or there will be another Holocaust.

It's just a matter of time


Rename Palm Beach to Palrusalem, offer discounts on one way airfare, book it, done.
 
2014-09-02 10:40:48 AM  
Somehow I don't think Netanyahu really wants peace. If he does, this is a pretty terrible way to go about it.
 
2014-09-02 10:42:29 AM  
Question 17)
Fill-In-The-Blank

Word Bank: Israel, Russia, good, bad.

When ______ seizes neighboring land, it's _____.
When ______ seizes neighboring land, it's _____.
 
2014-09-02 10:42:37 AM  

Noam Chimpsky: Maybe the Palestinians should stop making war on Israel if the don't want to lose real estate.


Don't worry. At this pace in few years Palestinians won't have any real estate to lose to Israel. So the problem will fix itself.
 
2014-09-02 10:44:45 AM  
If anyone has been paying attention, Bibi has already said there will never be a two state solution, ever, for any reason.

So his options are limited now, and he has a cabal of exapansionist racists that he needs to appease.
 
2014-09-02 10:45:33 AM  

Noam Chimpsky: Maybe the Palestinians should stop making war on Israel if the don't want to lose real estate.


Let's see how it works out

1. Hamas (and not Palestine, or even Gaza, let's be clear here) throws rocket
2. Israel carpet bombs the entire Gaza.
3. Israel grabs land in West Bank.

Given the fact that Hamas does a really bad job at throwing those rockets, that does barely anything but giving Israel the excuse, it's almost as if they get paid to do it like that.

/Hmm, let's see how benefits from all these
 
2014-09-02 10:45:35 AM  
I have always been an advocate for a single state solution (force them to all live in one country with everyone having the same rights) but if a 2 state does end up the endgame these little landgrabs should be Pali land and dear lord I feel sorry for the settlers.
 
2014-09-02 10:46:59 AM  

nekom: You really think so?  Because they've managed to kick the ass of every single one of their neighbors repeatedly so far.


You miss the point here, though I can't exactly agree with  Douchey's suggestion; the only way Israel can win with force is to eradicate everyone else in the region. They should not have the stomachs for that, no one should.

You can't bomb all the "bad people" away in real life, sorry the world is more complicated than that.
 
2014-09-02 10:47:30 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: and he has a cabal of exapansionist racists that he needs to appease.


But enough about America.
 
2014-09-02 10:48:54 AM  

mayIFark: Noam Chimpsky: Maybe the Palestinians should stop making war on Israel if the don't want to lose real estate.

Let's see how it works out

1. Hamas (and not Palestine, or even Gaza, let's be clear here) throws rocket
2. Israel carpet bombs the entire Gaza.
3. Israel grabs land in West Bank.

Given the fact that Hamas does a really bad job at throwing those rockets, that does barely anything but giving Israel the excuse, it's almost as if they get paid to do it like that.

/Hmm, let's see how benefits from all these


I don't like the implication of collusion here but elements in both sides definitely benefit from this conflict and are stoking this for their own personal benefit to the chagrin of everyone else.
 
2014-09-02 10:49:37 AM  

Dr Dreidel: And West Bankers respond by...hold on, no rocket fire? And no plans for an IDF incursion/military response in response to this non-firing of rockets? They're going to (it seems) handle this diplomatically?

Take note, Gaza. This is how you keep your streets from exploding.

// sure, it means Israel walks all over you for a few weeks, but...oh, wait
// DAMMIT BIBI, this is why no one wants you to have nice things


TFA doesn't indicate that Israel is going to cancel their confiscation of land due to the lack of rocket fire from the West Bank. It looks like it doesn't matter what the Palestinian response is - rocket fire or not, Israel will just take land whenever they feel like it.
 
2014-09-02 10:49:46 AM  

nekom: Il Douchey: Look Israel, it's never going to work out over there.
You are surrounded by insane people who absolutely hate you and always will.
Get out while you can, let the middle east implode.
There must be another Exodus, or there will be another Holocaust.

It's just a matter of time

You really think so?  Because they've managed to kick the ass of every single one of their neighbors repeatedly so far.


Thanks to Yahweh being on their side, of course.  And not billions of dollars and foreign-supplied superior technology.  Rock-paper-scissors ends up being an easy game to win when you are allowed to play a 4th option, backed by a third party's threat of carnage.
 
DGS [TotalFark]
2014-09-02 10:53:53 AM  

RedPhoenix122: HotWingConspiracy: and he has a cabal of exapansionist racists that he needs to appease.

But enough about America.


Well played
 
2014-09-02 10:55:28 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: If anyone has been paying attention, Bibi has already said there will never be a two state solution, ever, for any reason.

So his options are limited now, and he has a cabal of exapansionist racists that he needs to appease.


To say nothing of the anti-Semitic groups like Hamas who would like nothing more than to behead Israeli children.

Yup, it's all Israel's fault. That whole "wanting not to get killed" thing sure makes them a bunch of racists.
 
2014-09-02 10:57:33 AM  

Hydra: HotWingConspiracy: If anyone has been paying attention, Bibi has already said there will never be a two state solution, ever, for any reason.

So his options are limited now, and he has a cabal of exapansionist racists that he needs to appease.

To say nothing of the anti-Semitic groups like Hamas who would like nothing more than to behead Israeli children.


Which has literally nothing to do with what I said.

Yup, it's all Israel's fault. That whole "wanting not to get killed" thing sure makes them a bunch of racists.

Oh I thought it was Likud's open racism and coalitions with racists that makes them racists.
 
2014-09-02 11:01:38 AM  

Tomahawk513: Question 17)
Fill-In-The-Blank

Word Bank: Israel, Russia, good, bad.

When ______ seizes neighboring land, it's _____.
When ______ seizes neighboring land, it's _____.


When the ______ hits your _____ like a big _____ _____, that's _____.
 
2014-09-02 11:01:44 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Hydra: HotWingConspiracy: If anyone has been paying attention, Bibi has already said there will never be a two state solution, ever, for any reason.

So his options are limited now, and he has a cabal of exapansionist racists that he needs to appease.

To say nothing of the anti-Semitic groups like Hamas who would like nothing more than to behead Israeli children.

Which has literally nothing to do with what I said.

Yup, it's all Israel's fault. That whole "wanting not to get killed" thing sure makes them a bunch of racists.

Oh I thought it was Likud's open racism and coalitions with racists that makes them racists.


It's like fighting racism with racism just breeds racism, and everyone trying to find a party with any shred of moral high ground in this is a huge loser. It's no longer about mere survival for anyone over there any more, at least from the perspective of anyone acting with violence (polls indicate most on either side are sick of the extremists here, no most Palestinians do not want to drive Israel into the sea, just chill out with the apartheid dickery).
 
2014-09-02 11:03:21 AM  

BMulligan: Tomahawk513: Question 17)
Fill-In-The-Blank

Word Bank: Israel, Russia, good, bad.

When ______ seizes neighboring land, it's _____.
When ______ seizes neighboring land, it's _____.

When the ______ hits your _____ like a big _____ _____, that's _____.


Penis, penis, penis, penis, vagina.

Tee hee!
 
2014-09-02 11:10:42 AM  

sendtodave: BMulligan: Tomahawk513: Question 17)
Fill-In-The-Blank

Word Bank: Israel, Russia, good, bad.

When ______ seizes neighboring land, it's _____.
When ______ seizes neighboring land, it's _____.

When the ______ hits your _____ like a big _____ _____, that's _____.

Penis, penis, penis, penis, vagina.

Tee hee!


You see, it's funny because all the honeys call my penis a Moray.
 
2014-09-02 11:15:04 AM  

BMulligan: sendtodave: BMulligan: Tomahawk513: Question 17)
Fill-In-The-Blank

Word Bank: Israel, Russia, good, bad.

When ______ seizes neighboring land, it's _____.
When ______ seizes neighboring land, it's _____.

When the ______ hits your _____ like a big _____ _____, that's _____.

Penis, penis, penis, penis, vagina.

Tee hee!

You see, it's funny because all the honeys call my penis a Moray.


Hard to see as it hides in a slime-coated crevasse until it lunges forward and tries to kill its target?

Fitting!
 
2014-09-02 11:17:55 AM  

DGS: RedPhoenix122: HotWingConspiracy: and he has a cabal of exapansionist racists that he needs to appease.

But enough about America.

Well played


No wonder we're such staunch allies, we have so much in common.
 
2014-09-02 11:24:32 AM  

SordidEuphemism: BMulligan: sendtodave: BMulligan: Tomahawk513: Question 17)
Fill-In-The-Blank

Word Bank: Israel, Russia, good, bad.

When ______ seizes neighboring land, it's _____.
When ______ seizes neighboring land, it's _____.

When the ______ hits your _____ like a big _____ _____, that's _____.

Penis, penis, penis, penis, vagina.

Tee hee!

You see, it's funny because all the honeys call my penis a Moray.

Hard to see as it hides in a slime-coated crevasse until it lunges forward and tries to kill its target?

Fitting!


Damn. Someone hacked my iCloud account.
 
2014-09-02 11:25:32 AM  

Target Builder: Dr Dreidel: And West Bankers respond by...hold on, no rocket fire? And no plans for an IDF incursion/military response in response to this non-firing of rockets? They're going to (it seems) handle this diplomatically?

Take note, Gaza. This is how you keep your streets from exploding.

// sure, it means Israel walks all over you for a few weeks, but...oh, wait
// DAMMIT BIBI, this is why no one wants you to have nice things

TFA doesn't indicate that Israel is going to cancel their confiscation of land due to the lack of rocket fire from the West Bank. It looks like it doesn't matter what the Palestinian response is - rocket fire or not, Israel will just take land whenever they feel like it.


Right, but if the goal is keeping your citizens alive, it seems that firing rockets over a border dispute is the worst way to do it. Diplomatically, you may have a smaller country than when you started, but you'll at least have all your people living there.

Not to say one is necessarily better than the other - Hamas may prefer a high body count over smaller borders - just that if the goal is ending active hostilities, firing rockets will not get you there as fast as diplomacy.

// and no, I'm not supporting Israel's latest land-grab
 
2014-09-02 11:27:16 AM  

GoodyearPimp: Rock-paper-scissors ends up being an easy game to win when you are allowed to play a 4th option, backed by a third party's threat of carnage.


Allies have helped each other win wars throughout history - that's the whole idea of having allies. Like, here in the U.S. we love to make fun of the French, but If it wasn't for them, America would not have won the Revolutionary War - so when the U.S. helps out Israel, it's hardly something historically unusual.
 
2014-09-02 11:27:25 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Target Builder: Dr Dreidel: And West Bankers respond by...hold on, no rocket fire? And no plans for an IDF incursion/military response in response to this non-firing of rockets? They're going to (it seems) handle this diplomatically?

Take note, Gaza. This is how you keep your streets from exploding.

// sure, it means Israel walks all over you for a few weeks, but...oh, wait
// DAMMIT BIBI, this is why no one wants you to have nice things

TFA doesn't indicate that Israel is going to cancel their confiscation of land due to the lack of rocket fire from the West Bank. It looks like it doesn't matter what the Palestinian response is - rocket fire or not, Israel will just take land whenever they feel like it.

Right, but if the goal is keeping your citizens alive, it seems that firing rockets over a border dispute is the worst way to do it. Diplomatically, you may have a smaller country than when you started, but you'll at least have all your people living there.

Not to say one is necessarily better than the other - Hamas may prefer a high body count over smaller borders - just that if the goal is ending active hostilities, firing rockets will not get you there as fast as diplomacy.

// and no, I'm not supporting Israel's latest land-grab


I seem to remember one time where giving up land in exchange for peace didn't work out so well.
 
2014-09-02 11:39:25 AM  

mayIFark: What extremely extraordinary in this situation is the relation between US and Israel. The relationship is like with an abusive girlfriend who won't put out.


I've always kind of likened it to Israel being that a**hole friend from High School who never grew up. You're still friends with him and you've convinced yourself he's a good guy, but he's constantly doing sh*t that makes you look bad by association and yet you still feel it necessary to defend him.
=Smidge=
 
2014-09-02 11:42:48 AM  
Good on them.  Nothing wrong with taking spoils in war.  We should have pillaged Iraq so long, so hard, and so often there wouldn't be anything ISIS would want to take over, except for piles of skulls bleaching in the hot desert sun.
 
2014-09-02 11:49:25 AM  
Can we stop being Israel's biatch now?
 
2014-09-02 11:52:20 AM  
The land grab is comic in one of those macabre ways like bird feathers floating from Sylvester's mouth as he's denying he  ate the canary.
 
2014-09-02 11:53:57 AM  

metatronarchetype: Good on them.  Nothing wrong with taking spoils in war.  We should have pillaged Iraq so long, so hard, and so often there wouldn't be anything ISIS would want to take over, except for piles of skulls bleaching in the hot desert sun.


Sure. Of course, Israel keeps denying that they're taking spoils. Lots of people suggest annexation as an alternative to a 2 state solution.
 
2014-09-02 11:55:49 AM  

mayIFark: Noam Chimpsky: Maybe the Palestinians should stop making war on Israel if the don't want to lose real estate.

Let's see how it works out

1. Hamas (and not Palestine, or even Gaza, let's be clear here) throws rocket
2. Israel carpet bombs the entire Gaza.
3. Israel grabs land in West Bank.

Given the fact that Hamas does a really bad job at throwing those rockets, that does barely anything but giving Israel the excuse, it's almost as if they get paid to do it like that.

/Hmm, let's see how benefits from all these


My favorite part of Israeli logic is: We want to kill Hamas militants. In order to do that, we're going to bomb buildings they're hiding in. But first we're going to warn everyone in the building that we're going to bomb it. Hopefully the Hamas militants remain in the building.
 
2014-09-02 12:00:17 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: I seem to remember one time where giving up land in exchange for peace didn't work out so well.


And I seem to remember at least one time, within the last 40 years, involving one of the same players (and the other not too ideologically distant), that has worked out fairly well for both sides.

Hell, in all but the most recent negotiations, Egypt was key to getting Palestinian buy-in.
 
2014-09-02 12:03:42 PM  

rzrwiresunrise: My favorite part of Israeli logic is: We want to kill Hamas militants. In order to do that, we're going to bomb buildings they're hiding in. But first we're going to warn everyone in the building that we're going to bomb it. Hopefully the Hamas militants remain in the building.


The Taliban uses the cover of civilians all the time yet US and Afghan police manage to have a fraction of the civilian deaths while killing a much larger percentage of actual combatants compared with Israel.  Either the Israeli military doesn't give a shait or they have terrible aim.
 
2014-09-02 12:07:26 PM  

Fart_Machine: rzrwiresunrise: My favorite part of Israeli logic is: We want to kill Hamas militants. In order to do that, we're going to bomb buildings they're hiding in. But first we're going to warn everyone in the building that we're going to bomb it. Hopefully the Hamas militants remain in the building.

The Taliban uses the cover of civilians all the time yet US and Afghan police manage to have a fraction of the civilian deaths while killing a much larger percentage of actual combatants compared with Israel.  Either the Israeli military doesn't give a shait or they have terrible aim.


B-b-b-but Hamas's sole purpose is the destruction of Israel! What do you suggest Israel doooooo??? Oh, and "Be specific."
 
2014-09-02 12:09:17 PM  

mayIFark: Noam Chimpsky: Maybe the Palestinians should stop making war on Israel if the don't want to lose real estate.

Let's see how it works out

1. Hamas (and not Palestine, or even Gaza, let's be clear here) throws rocket
2. Israel carpet bombs the entire Gaza.
3. Israel grabs land in West Bank.

Given the fact that Hamas does a really bad job at throwing those rockets, that does barely anything but giving Israel the excuse, it's almost as if they get paid to do it like that.

/Hmm, let's see how benefits from all these


I wouldn't put it past Israel to have agent provocateurs in Palestine who lob missiles into vacant lots just to justify their actions.
 
2014-09-02 12:13:03 PM  

Hobodeluxe: mayIFark: Noam Chimpsky: Maybe the Palestinians should stop making war on Israel if the don't want to lose real estate.

Let's see how it works out

1. Hamas (and not Palestine, or even Gaza, let's be clear here) throws rocket
2. Israel carpet bombs the entire Gaza.
3. Israel grabs land in West Bank.

Given the fact that Hamas does a really bad job at throwing those rockets, that does barely anything but giving Israel the excuse, it's almost as if they get paid to do it like that.

/Hmm, let's see how benefits from all these

I wouldn't put it past Israel to have agent provocateurs in Palestine who lob missiles into vacant lots just to justify their actions.


The only way this makes sense is if you concede that Hamas are friggen morons for impotently wailing at a tiger... because they were goaded into it by agent provocateurs, as opposed to on their own moronic volition.
 
2014-09-02 12:13:33 PM  

nekom: Il Douchey: Look Israel, it's never going to work out over there.
You are surrounded by insane people who absolutely hate you and always will.
Get out while you can, let the middle east implode.
There must be another Exodus, or there will be another Holocaust.

It's just a matter of time

You really think so?  Because they've managed to kick the ass of every single one of their neighbors repeatedly so far.


I think the outflow versus the inflow of Israelis is a telling number. But this is just so much shocking in one quote.

Writing in Commentary magazine in May 2009, historian Michael B. Oren, who shortly thereafter became Israel's Ambassador to the United States, identified "the Arab demographic threat" as one of seven "existential threats" facing the existence of Israel.
"Israel, the Jewish State, is predicated on a decisive and stable Jewish majority of at least 70 percent," wrote Oren. "Any lower than that and Israel will have to decide between being a Jewish state and a democratic state. If it chooses democracy, then Israel as a Jewish state will cease to exist."


3 billion a year to fascists that think like that. Now I hope people understand what is driving seizures and invasions of the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alon-benmeir/the-jewish-state-of-israe _b _4136695.html
 
2014-09-02 12:13:35 PM  

mayIFark: Il Douchey: Look Israel, it's never going to work out over there.
You are surrounded by insane people who absolutely hate you and always will.
Get out while you can, let the middle east implode.
There must be another Exodus, or there will be another Holocaust.

It's just a matter of time

Will be? It's been going on for a while now.


Only in the minds of people so twisted by hatred of Jews to pretend that huge population growth Among Palestenians (not to mention Israeli Arabs), along with improved life expectancy, infant mortality and literacy constitutes a "holocaust".

Where coudl I find someone like that...


/Israel is definately making shti worse witht his move, but you have to be very stupid and or dishonest to call it a holocaust.
 
2014-09-02 12:13:43 PM  

Fart_Machine: rzrwiresunrise: My favorite part of Israeli logic is: We want to kill Hamas militants. In order to do that, we're going to bomb buildings they're hiding in. But first we're going to warn everyone in the building that we're going to bomb it. Hopefully the Hamas militants remain in the building.

The Taliban uses the cover of civilians all the time yet US and Afghan police manage to have a fraction of the civilian deaths while killing a much larger percentage of actual combatants compared with Israel.  Either the Israeli military doesn't give a shait or they have terrible aim.


I wonder, is Israel using drones? Are they as sophisticated as the U.S. military? Maybe their aim just isn't as good. They definitely give a shiat or they wouldn't warn civilians to evacuate before a bombing.

rzrwiresunrise: My favorite part of Israeli logic is: We want to kill Hamas militants. In order to do that, we're going to bomb buildings they're hiding in. But first we're going to warn everyone in the building that we're going to bomb it. Hopefully the Hamas militants remain in the building.


But if they didn't warn the building there'd be lots more dead civilians for you to get angry about. If only there was something the Palestinian citizens could do to make it easier for Israel to only target Hamas.
 
2014-09-02 12:16:55 PM  

sendtodave: Hobodeluxe: mayIFark: Noam Chimpsky: Maybe the Palestinians should stop making war on Israel if the don't want to lose real estate.

Let's see how it works out

1. Hamas (and not Palestine, or even Gaza, let's be clear here) throws rocket
2. Israel carpet bombs the entire Gaza.
3. Israel grabs land in West Bank.

Given the fact that Hamas does a really bad job at throwing those rockets, that does barely anything but giving Israel the excuse, it's almost as if they get paid to do it like that.

/Hmm, let's see how benefits from all these

I wouldn't put it past Israel to have agent provocateurs in Palestine who lob missiles into vacant lots just to justify their actions.

The only way this makes sense is if you concede that Hamas are friggen morons for impotently wailing at a tiger... because they were goaded into it by agent provocateurs, as opposed to on their own moronic volition.


no I'm just saying that some IDF or Mossad dressed as Arabs could easily lob some missiles over the wall into some place they know isn't populated and give a reason for Israel to break a cease fire. Just a simple false flag operation. I guess agent provocateur wasn't the correct terminology.
 
2014-09-02 12:17:10 PM  
Hobodeluxe: agent provocateurs

"Agents provocateur", like "courts martial", "heirs apparent", and "attorneys general".

// unless you're British
// I love these types of plurals
 
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