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(Herald Sun)   Schools are banning playground games because many children either can't share or can't handle losing   (heraldsun.com.au ) divider line
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2014-09-02 05:08:34 AM  
You have got to be kidding.

If I had complained to my Mom that the games at the local playground were "unfair", I know she would have taken immediate action. Namely giving me a bucket and a rag and sending my to clean something.

After that, I am sure I would have found a way to deal with the other little kiddies---whose parents were of the same mindset.
 
2014-09-02 07:06:17 AM  
You're doing it wrong.
 
2014-09-02 07:33:53 AM  
When I was a child, I had no memory of other people sorting out our tiggy - we just seemed to be able to do it ourselves," she said.


That's filthy. I think.
 
2014-09-02 07:38:28 AM  
resources2.news.com.au

Moments before a devastating crane kick.
 
2014-09-02 07:48:53 AM  
This is why we have trophies for kids who come in 17th place.
 
2014-09-02 07:49:44 AM  
Could someone explain tiggy and skipping for those of us shop don't speak Aussie? I'm imagining something like tag for tiggy, but skipping is eluding me.
 
2014-09-02 07:50:44 AM  
Negotiation skills are not inherint
 
2014-09-02 07:50:45 AM  
So now they NEVER learn how to share or handle losing.

Sounds good to me. I guess I should never potty train my kids do they don't have to suffer accidents. It would hurt their self-esteem.
 
2014-09-02 07:50:48 AM  
I hate when I forget to sort my tiggy and a red one gets in with the whites and they turn pink.
 
2014-09-02 07:51:31 AM  
I've been wondering how Western Civilization would grind to a halt. And now I know.
 
2014-09-02 07:52:04 AM  
This isn't new, at least the banning part. Everything from four square to football was banned by my elementary school. They said we were getting into too many fights and it was getting too rough every afternoon. It seems only elementary aged boys can somehow turn four square into a full contact game.
 
2014-09-02 07:55:22 AM  
So long as the kid learns how to bring a gun to school and "Show them ALL" as a means to resolve his conflicts...
 
2014-09-02 08:03:13 AM  
This is Australia right? How are these kids going to learn how to wrestle crocs, shake off a venomous snake bite and other daily activities if they can't hack it on the playground?

/pussy Aussie kids on the playground trifecta in play
 
2014-09-02 08:06:29 AM  
Schools should just ban kids and get it over with.
 
2014-09-02 08:07:30 AM  

MooseBayou: Schools should just ban kids and get it over with.


They do seem to be the common thread with problems in schools.
 
2014-09-02 08:08:41 AM  
Wow, ~ 1,600 schools in Melbourne are putting the smack-down on kids.
 
2014-09-02 08:09:09 AM  

b0rg9: I hate when I forget to sort my tiggy and a red one gets in with the whites and they turn pink.


Yeah, I think it means 'laundry,' but like a child's laundry. We don't really have a word for it.
 
2014-09-02 08:09:55 AM  

bearcats1983: This isn't new, at least the banning part. Everything from four square to football was banned by my elementary school. They said we were getting into too many fights and it was getting too rough every afternoon. It seems only elementary aged boys can somehow turn four square into a full contact game.


Same here.  I figure most bans are "no UFC on campus" bans, and not "don't want to hurt a snowflake's feelings" bans.  Hell, touch football games turned into schoolyard rugby, which was markedly different from regular rugby by not having any sort of rules.

The thing I see way more than I should, though, is kids who take losing at a stupid game as the end of the world.  I suspect it's a subset of crazy parents who have made failure at anything not an option, even a rainy day recess game of checkers.  Those people are the problem.
 
2014-09-02 08:13:19 AM  
There's only three kinds of fair in this world: county fair, state fair and world's fair.
 
2014-09-02 08:16:13 AM  
And when they grow up they can craft US foreign policy.
 
2014-09-02 08:19:50 AM  

Destructor: I've been wondering how   Western Civilizationwould grind to a halt.



Australia?

i.ytimg.com
 
2014-09-02 08:20:35 AM  
Tiggy?

WTF is that?

Whatever it is I think we can all agree this is stupid.
 
2014-09-02 08:21:41 AM  
In fifty years (assuming the human race is around that long) we're going to have a world of Eric Cartmans.
 
2014-09-02 08:22:22 AM  
They just need different game.  Like, everyone wears a steak shirt and runs away while flailing arms and shaking wildly from the hungry pit bull.
 
2014-09-02 08:26:43 AM  
Kids and their parents have forgotten how to play.  We used to go out and make up a game amongst ourselves and that is what we did, now all kids and parents know is organized activities.  Instead of going outside with the kids who live in your area we have soccer, taekwondo and dance class.  Children never learn to play only follow instructions and their parents aren't any better.

A year ago I took over my son's cub scout den.  Everything has to be planned to the last detail or parents get twitchy.  I took the boys, and parents, camping so we could go fishing at first light.  I gave them the basic schedule, show up and make camp a 2:00, fishing the next morning, breakfast and break down by 11:00.  I was hammered with questions. "how long will set up be?  What time is dinner? what activities are scheduled in between?  will we have a campfire? Are we doing skits or singing songs and if so which ones?  What time will we be getting up?  how long is scheduled to fish?  will we be giving prizes?"  We have socially engineered a generation of drones programmed to follow.
 
2014-09-02 08:28:29 AM  

ChubbyTiger: Could someone explain tiggy and skipping for those of us shop don't speak Aussie? I'm imagining something like tag for tiggy, but skipping is eluding me.


Tiggy = tag
Skipping = jump rope

Yeah, "skipping" may not be all that evocative, but "jump rope" sounds vaguely Neanderthal. It describes the act very well, but it lacks... poetry.
 
2014-09-02 08:31:42 AM  
Good. People shouldn't have to deal with the fact that life isn't fair until adulthood, that way they'll have no skills to deal with anything.
Sure, they may climb a clock tower with a rifle, but I'm pretty sure we can also ban all ways there are to harm people.
 
2014-09-02 08:34:29 AM  
Parent information sessions and a psychologist-run resilience program are among measures to help students weather life's ups and downs.

"All kids at the moment need a little bit of extra support to be resilient and to manage it when things in a game don't go well or when life doesn't go well,'' Mrs Hirth said.

Victorian Principals Association president Gabrielle Leigh said some schools had imposed bans on other games, such as skipping and swapping collector cards, over problems sharing.


1. Progressives/liberals love this sort of stuff

2. Stuff like this always has a woman pushing it.
 
2014-09-02 08:37:53 AM  
 So, when are your snowflakes going to learn about sharing and losing?

/Fight Club.
 
2014-09-02 08:38:04 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: Destructor: I've been wondering how   Western Civilizationwould grind to a halt.


Australia?

[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]


Sure. It's an outpost of Western Civilization. Just like New Zealand, except bigger.
 
2014-09-02 08:38:53 AM  
unrestrictedstock.com
 
2014-09-02 08:42:54 AM  

Destructor: I've been wondering how Western Civilization would grind to a halt. And now I know.


Meanwhile in other parts of the world:

img.thesun.co.uk

babich11.wikis.birmingham.k12.mi.us

www.rawa.org

www.vision.org

www.theblaze.com
 
2014-09-02 08:43:10 AM  
Our playground games involved us throwing dodge balls at each other's faces.  Occasionally someone would horrifically injure himself on the fireman's pole.
 
2014-09-02 08:45:13 AM  
Hasty Ambush you hit the nail on the head.  What is going on is childhood, these same type of posturing manuvers go on through out the workplace.  So schools are working to become even better at NOT preparing children for the real world.  God save us from socio-fascist femi nazi's, or their next cause will be to banish the NFL.   "They keep score, and get hurt and they will not let the gay kid play!"  Performance and competition does not exist in their world, but in the real world it is the barometer by which a MAN is measured.
 
2014-09-02 08:52:04 AM  

Likwit: b0rg9: I hate when I forget to sort my tiggy and a red one gets in with the whites and they turn pink.

Yeah, I think it means 'laundry,' but like a child's laundry. We don't really have a word for it.


or Miss Tiggy Winkle
www.peterrabbit.com

/Or tag
 
2014-09-02 08:52:05 AM  
The 'Everyone-gets-a-participation-trophy' chickens have come home to roost.
 
2014-09-02 08:54:11 AM  

2xcited: Hasty Ambush you hit the nail on the head.  What is going on is childhood, these same type of posturing manuvers go on through out the workplace.  So schools are working to become even better at NOT preparing children for the real world.  God save us from socio-fascist femi nazi's, or their next cause will be to banish the NFL.   "They keep score, and get hurt and they will not let the gay kid play!"  Performance and competition does not exist in their world, but in the real world it is the barometer by which a MAN is measured.


A real man doesn't hope for god to solve his problems for him you sissy.  I bet you don't even wrestle bears.  Just another metrosexual pretending he's hard.
 
2014-09-02 08:54:15 AM  

hasty ambush: Destructor: I've been wondering how Western Civilization would grind to a halt. And now I know.

Meanwhile in other parts of the world:

[img.thesun.co.uk image 682x400]

[babich11.wikis.birmingham.k12.mi.us image 500x375]

[www.rawa.org image 210x318]

[www.vision.org image 547x668]

[www.theblaze.com image 460x276]


Well, yeah. I wonder if their mom's go to jail if they let their kid walk to the park half a mile away...
 
2014-09-02 08:55:08 AM  
I am starting to see some of these kids come into the workforce already. They don't understand why they can't have a job when they lack the basic skills for the position. Sad!
 
2014-09-02 08:57:09 AM  

hasty ambush: 1. Progressives/liberals love this sort of stuff


I'm about as libby-lib as you get and I don't understand the motivation behind Every Child Gets a Trophy. If you don't make mistakes, how are you supposed to handle it when it happens?
 
2014-09-02 08:58:25 AM  

2xcited: Hasty Ambush you hit the nail on the head.  What is going on is childhood, these same type of posturing manuvers go on through out the workplace.  So schools are working to become even better at NOT preparing children for the real world.  God save us from socio-fascist femi nazi's, or their next cause will be to banish the NFL.   "They keep score, and get hurt and they will not let the gay crappy kid play!"  Performance and competition does not exist in their world, but in the real world it is the barometer by which a MAN person is measured.


Trolling to truth in two edits.
 
2014-09-02 08:58:50 AM  

2xcited: Hasty Ambush you hit the nail on the head.  What is going on is childhood, these same type of posturing manuvers go on through out the workplace.  So schools are working to become even better at NOT preparing children for the real world.  God save us from socio-fascist femi nazi's, or their next cause will be to banish the NFL.   "They keep score, and get hurt and they will not let the gay kid play!"  Performance and competition does not exist in their world, but in the real world it is the barometer by which a MAN is measured.


A MAN is measured?  Funny I was always taught a man was measured as much by what he didn't do(hurt the weak, pick on the vulnerable, etc.) as what he did.  But you go on compensating for your penis size and let the adults talk.

While it's crazy that this sort of banning is happening, suddenly becoming testosterone fueled monkeys is not the solution.  Find something they can do that allows them to compete and struggle but doesn't cause fights.  Is it that hard?
 
2014-09-02 09:07:00 AM  

hasty ambush: 1. Progressives/liberals love this sort of stuff


Bullshiat. Liberals hate this shiat, too. The difference is that we don't embrace the wackos who identify as one of us. They may be vocal and they may get some to bend to their will but there are still those of us on the "same side" who will call them out as the nutjobs that they are. We don't promote them to office.

Cheron: A year ago I took over my son's cub scout den.  Everything has to be planned to the last detail or parents get twitchy.  I took the boys, and parents, camping so we could go fishing at first light.  I gave them the basic schedule, show up and make camp a 2:00, fishing the next morning, breakfast and break down by 11:00.  I was hammered with questions. "how long will set up be?  What time is dinner? what activities are scheduled in between?  will we have a campfire? Are we doing skits or singing songs and if so which ones?  What time will we be getting up?  how long is scheduled to fish?  will we be giving prizes?"  We have socially engineered a generation of drones programmed to follow.


Kids would be more than happy to make it up as they go. This is a problem with the parents. If the kids get too used to this kind of micromanaged lives, blame the parents. Kids being screwed up (even though today kids are just as well as they ever were) would not be the kids' fault. It would be the fault of the parents who raised them.

If the sculptor screws up a statue you don't blame the statue itself for having 3 arms. Blame the moron who put the extra arm there.

Just be careful to avoid confirmation bias. There are still plenty of parents whose idea of entertaining a kid is opening the front door and saying, "go knock yourself out, kiddo." Those are just so much easier to not notice and don't give that satisfaction of righteous indignation.
 
2014-09-02 09:10:35 AM  

hasty ambush: 1. Progressives/liberals love this sort of stuff


Maybe the ones in your head.  Real ones, not so much.

hasty ambush: 2. Stuff like this always has a woman pushing it.


REPORTED
 
2014-09-02 09:13:17 AM  

taoistlumberjak:  Hell, touch football games turned into schoolyard rugby, which was markedly different from regular rugby by not having any sort of rules.


In elementary school in the '70s, we called that game murderball, predating the wheelchair rugby version.  Essentially, if you were holding the ball, you were fair game.  We should have called it hot potato.
 
2014-09-02 09:14:55 AM  

SurfaceTension: hasty ambush: 1. Progressives/liberals love this sort of stuff

I'm about as libby-lib as you get and I don't understand the motivation behind Every Child Gets a Trophy. If you don't make mistakes, how are you supposed to handle it when it happens?


I'm a Millennial. An older one, but one none the less. I remember a participation trophy for little league. I was confused by it. "What is this for? We suck. I had fun and all but we didn't do well in the season. What's the point of this?" I never gave a damn about that thing. It's shoved in a box somewhere with the bat long broken off. It still means nothing to me.

monoski: I am starting to see some of these kids come into the workforce already. They don't understand why they can't have a job when they lack the basic skills for the position. Sad!


Oh stop it with that. Again. Millennial here. I did full time college and full time work at the same time. I worked hard and put myself through school. I have better training and experience than most of my peers. I have the qualifications of those with 10+ years on me because of my hard work and opportunity taking. While in schooling I noticed plenty of others who were doing similar things. Stop pointing to the rare helicopter parented kid as the de facto representative for us all.

Yeah, I know. Making sense isn't nearly as fun as the "Look, everyone! Let's point at them and laugh!" attitude that permeates/dominates these threads. It's just not as entertaining to be realistic, is it?
 
2014-09-02 09:20:44 AM  
Canceled because of lack of resilience?

Get better PvP gear.
 
2014-09-02 09:24:49 AM  

SurfaceTension: hasty ambush: 1. Progressives/liberals love this sort of stuff

I'm about as libby-lib as you get and I don't understand the motivation behind Every Child Gets a Trophy. If you don't make mistakes, how are you supposed to handle it when it happens?



Don't worry. Your family gets lawyers and rehab centres to handle things if you grow up twisted and unprepared.

33.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-09-02 09:34:53 AM  

TotesCrayCray: I have better training and experience than most of my peers.


And the participation ribbons to prove it.

Seriously, we hired a new engineer and he was a fantastic worker.  Only quirk was he could not understand the need for vacation.  He looked for a two week temp position to do while on vacation.
 
2014-09-02 09:45:17 AM  
hasty ambush:


1. Progressives/liberals love this sort of stuff


I'm not so sure about this generalization.


2. Stuff like this always has a woman pushing it.


This one I am sure of.
 
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