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(ESPN)   Atlanta puts their bats in the rack on Labor Day and get a no-hitter thrown against them .... by 4 Phillie pitchers - for 1st time in Philadelphia history   (scores.espn.go.com) divider line 33
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2014-09-01 05:15:28 PM
Jason Heyward had three steals in a no hitter.   I wonder how often that happens.
 
2014-09-01 06:58:33 PM
It's unusual to pull a starting pitcher who's throwing a no-hitter.   I guess Cole Hamels is on a pitch-count restriction.
 
2014-09-01 07:58:12 PM

Earguy: It's unusual to pull a starting pitcher who's throwing a no-hitter.   I guess Cole Hamels is on a pitch-count restriction.


The way he was going he would have been at 150 plus for a complete game.
 
2014-09-01 08:05:27 PM
After that performance, it'd be a damn miracle for the Braves to get to October.  If they do, I'm guessing one and done.

/Braves fan.
 
2014-09-01 08:24:38 PM
I predicted 84-80 for the Braves before the season even started.  I'm sticking with that prediction.
 
2014-09-01 08:29:46 PM

peachy92: After that performance, it'd be a damn miracle for the Braves to get to October.  If they do, I'm guessing one and done.

/Braves fan.


I'm a lifelong Braves fan, and today was the culmination of an awful season that needs to end fast. I can't blame Fredi for getting no-hit, but I do wonder why he pulled the best hitter on the team for a pinch-hitter who has been up and down from AAA for the last few seasons. It seemed very fitting that the Braves had five walks and went 0-6 with RISP. They have been abysmal at situational hitting all year long. This do-or-die approach at the plate has killed them. It's a three-run bomb or nothing. The hitting coaches have got to go. Fredi should have been fired already. I have no confidence in Frank Wren, who has saddled this team with the two worst free agent signings I can recall since I started following the Braves as a kid in the 1970's. This is just pitiful to watch night after night feeling that a one-run deficit in the seventh inning is too much to overcome. In 1993, this team was 10 games out on September 1 and still rallied to win the NL West. They lost the NLCS to the Phillies, who of course went on to lose to Toronto in very memorable fashion. I don't think this team has that kind of rally in them. They may scrap their way into the WC one-game playoff and lose 1-0. I have no confidence in this team. I'd have to go back to the pre-1991 era to find a team I felt less confidence in.
 
2014-09-01 08:29:47 PM
At least the Philles had one good thing happen this season..
 
2014-09-01 08:30:07 PM
And so far hundreds of Padres pitchers have combined to have zero no hitters
 
2014-09-01 08:36:16 PM
If it's any consolation, Braves fans, the Mets made 6 errors today.

/ Mets fan
 
2014-09-01 08:36:42 PM

Nabb1: today was the culmination of an awful season that needs to end fast.


I have gone to at lest 1 Braves game a year since 2007.  This is the first year since 2001 where I have money, but haven't wanted to go see them.  The other years I didn't go because I haven't had the money.
 
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2014-09-01 08:41:01 PM

jayfurr: I predicted 84-80 for the Braves before the season even started.  I'm sticking with that prediction.


You expected the Braves to play 164 games?
 
2014-09-01 09:30:23 PM

jbc: jayfurr: I predicted 84-80 for the Braves before the season even started.  I'm sticking with that prediction.

You expected the Braves to play 164 games?


Typo. 82-80. Sigh.
 
2014-09-01 09:32:44 PM
One of the nice things about being a Braves fan is that they generally put a competitive team on the field.  This team is not competitive.
 
2014-09-01 09:35:55 PM
This is fascinating. The Pirates are in pretty much the same boat as the Braves, yet I'm fairly content with their performance while all the Braves fans appear to be doom and gloom
 
2014-09-01 09:58:28 PM

Earguy: It's unusual to pull a starting pitcher who's throwing a no-hitter.   I guess Cole Hamels is on a pitch-count restriction.


A few years ago, the Mariners had to pull their starter due to injury despite his no hitter. What followed was a six pitcher combination no-hitter. I am unimpressed with the Phillies.
 
2014-09-01 10:21:10 PM
The more pitchers you add, the more likely it's the batting that sucks and not the pitching that's good.
 
2014-09-01 10:23:19 PM

harleyquinnical: I am unimpressed with the Phillies.


So are most Philly fans this year.
 
2014-09-01 10:28:53 PM
Braves have some very good young talent. It is the manager, hitting coaches, and front office they need to get rid of. That and BJ Upton desperately needs to find a new vocation. Baseball is not his gig.
 
2014-09-01 10:47:29 PM
Lifetime Phillies fan here.  For most of the season, they've been terrible, but in last few weeks, they've played much better and I've enjoyed watching their games.  Pitching both starting and relief have been much better. Hamels has been great and Jerome Williams was a great pickup.  Giles, Deikman and Pabillon have been good in the bullpen. Ben Revere is hitting over .300 and Byrd is a League Leader in Home runs and RBI's. And Howard's finally showing some pop. Even in the games they've lost, they've come back and made it close.   I think they may show more promise next season.  And in the meantime, let's go Eagles!!
 
2014-09-02 12:18:05 AM

Lost Thought 00: This is fascinating. The Pirates are in pretty much the same boat as the Braves, yet I'm fairly content with their performance while all the Braves fans appear to be doom and gloom


Because no matter what is reported there are tons of braves fans in the southeast from Kentucky to Miami and to Arkansas. They average mid pack for attendance which isn't bad but their stadium is 15-20k seats bigger so looks emptier most of the time.

Its sad because the team made some bad FA signings the past few years(BJ,uggla) and let a few go that had decent seasons. If it wasn't for injuries to the pitching staff maybe it would have been different but still there are no consistent hitters on this team and it doesn't appear to be changing any time soon.

The pirates are actually on an upswing which is easy when you go so long without making the playoffs, not a dig just a different view of things. We were spoiled and making the playoffs was infinitely better than not making the playoffs. Because you have zero shot sitting at home, being there gives you slight hope.
 
2014-09-02 12:30:41 AM

harleyquinnical: Earguy: It's unusual to pull a starting pitcher who's throwing a no-hitter.   I guess Cole Hamels is on a pitch-count restriction.

A few years ago, the Mariners had to pull their starter due to injury despite his no hitter. What followed was a six pitcher combination no-hitter. I am unimpressed with the Phillies.


Wow a real-life Mariners fan??
 
2014-09-02 07:03:14 AM
This is making the move outside the city easier to swallow

/Enjoy the traffic!
 
2014-09-02 09:43:48 AM

harleyquinnical: Earguy: It's unusual to pull a starting pitcher who's throwing a no-hitter.   I guess Cole Hamels is on a pitch-count restriction.

A few years ago, the Mariners had to pull their starter due to injury despite his no hitter. What followed was a six pitcher combination no-hitter. I am unimpressed with the Phillies.


This right here is an extreme example of why the no-hitter in and of itself is a grossly overrated event.  In 6 innings Hamels gave up 5 BBs and a HBP.  He pitched six perfectly solid shut-out innings but with six baserunners. That's not an outing that warrants leaving him in just to preserve the supposed sanctity that is the no hitter.
 
2014-09-02 09:47:52 AM

peachy92: After that performance, it'd be a damn miracle for the Braves to get to October.  If they do, I'm guessing one and done.

/Braves fan.


Especially if fly balls to left field are deemed to be "infield flys".
 
2014-09-02 09:54:54 AM

Cat Food Sandwiches: peachy92: After that performance, it'd be a damn miracle for the Braves to get to October.  If they do, I'm guessing one and done.

/Braves fan.

Especially if fly balls to left field are deemed to be "infield flys".


Zzzzzzzzing!
 
2014-09-02 10:08:47 AM
I was at the game.  It's tough to get no-hit AND leave six runners in scoring position, but the Braves found a way.

And this Bobby Cox bobblehead looks nothing like him.
 
2014-09-02 10:13:52 AM

steamingpile: hey average mid pack for attendance which isn't bad but their stadium is 15-20k seats bigger so looks emptier most of the time.


Seating capacity of Turner Field: 49,586 (4th in MLB)

Stadia with 15k or more seats less than Turner Field (ie 34,586 or less): Tropicana Field (31,042)

So I would dispute this naked assertion. Yes, Turner Field is bigger than most MLB stadia, but it is in now way "15-20k seats bigger" so there must be some other reason it "looks emptier most  of the time."
 
2014-09-02 10:46:13 AM

yequalsy: harleyquinnical: Earguy: It's unusual to pull a starting pitcher who's throwing a no-hitter.   I guess Cole Hamels is on a pitch-count restriction.

A few years ago, the Mariners had to pull their starter due to injury despite his no hitter. What followed was a six pitcher combination no-hitter. I am unimpressed with the Phillies.

This right here is an extreme example of why the no-hitter in and of itself is a grossly overrated event.  In 6 innings Hamels gave up 5 BBs and a HBP.  He pitched six perfectly solid shut-out innings but with six baserunners. That's not an outing that warrants leaving him in just to preserve the supposed sanctity that is the no hitter.


Whereas the Mariners' starter had one base runner only at first. Relievers let 3 in scoring position but still got the no-hitter against the Dodgers. With the Braves, I am disappointed by the hitting not being able to help get a run or two. $55M for 3 years of BJ is way too much. I have not been impressed with him.
 
2014-09-02 10:51:56 AM
Congratulations and good jorb, Carlos Ruiz!
 
2014-09-02 10:56:30 AM

LucklessWonder: steamingpile: hey average mid pack for attendance which isn't bad but their stadium is 15-20k seats bigger so looks emptier most of the time.

Seating capacity of Turner Field: 49,586 (4th in MLB)

Stadia with 15k or more seats less than Turner Field (ie 34,586 or less): Tropicana Field (31,042)

So I would dispute this naked assertion. Yes, Turner Field is bigger than most MLB stadia, but it is in now way "15-20k seats bigger" so there must be some other reason it "looks emptier most  of the time."


It's because the people who can afford to go to Braves games don't like to travel to where the stadium is, that's why they're building the new stadium in the burbs.
 
2014-09-02 02:04:12 PM
Phillies still in last place in the East but managed to sweep the 1st place Nats in a 4 game series and then throw a no-hitter on the 2nd place Braves. Would be nice if they could win consistently.
 
2014-09-02 05:05:23 PM

LucklessWonder: steamingpile: hey average mid pack for attendance which isn't bad but their stadium is 15-20k seats bigger so looks emptier most of the time.

Seating capacity of Turner Field: 49,586 (4th in MLB)

Stadia with 15k or more seats less than Turner Field (ie 34,586 or less): Tropicana Field (31,042)

So I would dispute this naked assertion. Yes, Turner Field is bigger than most MLB stadia, but it is in now way "15-20k seats bigger" so there must be some other reason it "looks emptier most  of the time."


Atlanta's attendance this year is 17th in MLB, at 2,033,380. So the Braves really are "middle-of-the-pack" where attendance is concerned.

Nabb1: I'm a lifelong Braves fan, and today was the culmination of an awful season that needs to end fast. I can't blame Fredi for getting no-hit, but I do wonder why he pulled the best hitter on the team for a pinch-hitter who has been up and down from AAA for the last few seasons. It seemed very fitting that the Braves had five walks and went 0-6 with RISP. They have been abysmal at situational hitting all year long. This do-or-die approach at the plate has killed them. It's a three-run bomb or nothing. The hitting coaches have got to go. Fredi should have been fired already. I have no confidence in Frank Wren, who has saddled this team with the two worst free agent signings I can recall since I started following the Braves as a kid in the 1970's. This is just pitiful to watch night after night feeling that a one-run deficit in the seventh inning is too much to overcome. In 1993, this team was 10 games out on September 1 and still rallied to win the NL West. They lost the NLCS to the Phillies, who of course went on to lose to Toronto in very memorable fashion. I don't think this team has that kind of rally in them. They may scrap their way into the WC one-game playoff and lose 1-0. I have no confidence in this team. I'd have to go back to the pre-1991 era to find a team I felt less confidence in.


Indeed. And let's not gloss over the fact that the Braves need to stop hitting into double plays. I'm looking at YOU, Chris Johnson. I swear...every damn time he comes up to the plate with less than two outs and a runner on first, you can pencil in the 6-4-3 before a pitch is even thrown. Worst case scenario you have to change your scorecard to 4-6-3.
 
2014-09-03 01:10:19 AM
And Phillies, Kendrick, Bastardo, and Giles combine to pitch another shut out.  Phils are playing much better now than back in July.  Took a trip to Pittsburgh for the first time with 3 Phillies fan friends 4th of July weekend.  Had a great time in Pittsburgh and Pirates stadium is marvelous. But Phils got swept and looked terrible. Too bad they didn't start earlier to bounce back and they could have been relevant now.
 
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