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(The National)   MLB alone among pro sports in North America because it is no longer possible to buy a championship: "You'd have a slightly better chance of predicting play-off participants simply by using alphabetical order than by using payroll numbers"   (thenational.ae) divider line 30
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2014-09-01 05:12:47 PM
But that's the only basis of the "Yankees Suck" thesis!!!
 
2014-09-01 05:53:16 PM

WTF Indeed: But that's the only basis of the "Yankees Suck" thesis!!!


We'll always have A-Fraud to taunt them about.   It'll take a while to live that down.
 
2014-09-01 08:16:09 PM
Is that why the Cowboys and Skins are always at the top of the NFC and Seattle was just dreadful last year.
 
2014-09-01 08:28:17 PM
TL;DR. Im guessing its cause the other leagues do not buy into Sabermetrics and/or the data isnt as thorough like what is now available in baseball.
 
2014-09-01 08:42:15 PM
I think it has more to do with where teams are spending their money as opposed to who they're spending their money on. If you're spending your money on scouting and player development in the minor leagues, you can become very successful without breaking the bank on players at the major league level.
 
2014-09-01 08:45:22 PM
adding that you do still eventually have to pay your own homegrown talent or else they will become someone else's high priced free agent. but if you do it right, you can let some of those FAs go and just replace them with someone younger, cheaper, and hopefully just as talented as the departing player.

/the Cubs are taking this newfangled way of thinking to heart
 
2014-09-01 08:45:48 PM
Tiny sample size is tiny.
 
2014-09-01 08:56:24 PM
MLB alone among pro sports in North America because it is no longer possible to buy a championship

Alone? Not in this article, or reality.
 
2014-09-01 08:59:19 PM
This could be the very firstyear since the Wild Card was introduced (20 years ago) that both the Red Sox and the Yankees fail to make the playoffs, so obviously baseball's cap-less system works.
 
2014-09-01 09:01:40 PM

CipollinaFan: Is that why the Cowboys and Skins are always at the top of the NFC and Seattle was just dreadful last year.


Well, to be fair I think the Skins were bad last year because some idjit let his star rookie QB out on the field before he was really healed... And kept him out after getting hit in the knee before being put on the injury list...
 
2014-09-01 09:08:22 PM
Doesn't look like there's a graph for this year, but this page has been fun to look at in previous years.
 
2014-09-01 09:11:50 PM

JerseyTim: MLB alone among pro sports in North America because it is no longer possible to buy a championship

Alone? Not in this article, or reality.


Nobody should tell the Marlins...
 
2014-09-01 09:28:20 PM

The Loaf: This could be the very firstyear since the Wild Card was introduced (20 years ago) that both the Red Sox and the Yankees fail to make the playoffs, so obviously baseball's cap-less system works.


The Spurs have made the playoffs seventeen years in a row and 24 of 25 seasons with tough cap rules.

Your example says more about the Rays, Jays, and O's than it does about those two teams.
 
2014-09-01 09:33:36 PM

Dawg47: The Loaf: This could be the very firstyear since the Wild Card was introduced (20 years ago) that both the Red Sox and the Yankees fail to make the playoffs, so obviously baseball's cap-less system works.

The Spurs have made the playoffs seventeen years in a row and 24 of 25 seasons with tough cap rules.

Your example says more about the Rays, Jays, and O's than it does about those two teams.


Sort of apples and oranges given how many more teams make the playoffs in the NBA. That said, yeah, the Jays and O's have generally done a bad job. Obviously the Rays haven't since '08.
 
2014-09-01 10:23:20 PM

The Loaf: This could be the very firstyear since the Wild Card was introduced (20 years ago) that both the Red Sox and the Yankees fail to make the playoffs, so obviously baseball's cap-less system works.


So, in other words, we are due for another revision to the playoff system?
 
2014-09-01 10:26:09 PM

capngroovy: So, in other words, we are due for another revision to the playoff system?


If we realign so that the Yankees, Red Sox, Astros, Rangers and Rockies share a division...
 
2014-09-01 10:56:52 PM

The Loaf: This could be the very firstyear since the Wild Card was introduced (20 years ago) that both the Red Sox and the Yankees fail to make the playoffs, so obviously baseball's cap-less system works.


And I can't wait for all that baseball playoff coverage on BSPN if (when) that happens...

/*crickets*
 
2014-09-01 11:21:04 PM

WTF Indeed: But that's the only basis of the "Yankees Suck" thesis!!!


Incorrect...an additional basis is being a Red Sox fan.
 
2014-09-01 11:23:25 PM

buckeyebrain: And I can't wait for all that baseball playoff coverage on BSPN if (when) that happens...

/*crickets*


The Dodgers are still likely to make it, so they'll have plenty to disproportionately cover.
 
2014-09-02 01:14:20 AM

WTF Indeed: But that's the only basis of the "Yankees Suck" thesis!!!


Loving the goddam Yankees is not the default setting

I for one cannot wait for Yankee Elimination Day to roll in this year.

The Yankees do suck of course. but at only 4 games back in the wildcard race they dont suck enough to be eliminated yet. they suck only to the crippled  levell not the dead level.

Soon
 
2014-09-02 01:49:30 AM

CipollinaFan: Is that why the Cowboys and Skins are always at the top of the NFC and Seattle was just dreadful last year.


It's also why the Nets were in the Finals.
 
2014-09-02 07:26:00 AM
Baseball's salary structure is wonky. Young guys who are really productive can be paid next to nothing. Even mediocre players in their late 20s through early 30s command ridiculous salaries.
 
2014-09-02 07:33:23 AM

Krustofsky: WTF Indeed: But that's the only basis of the "Yankees Suck" thesis!!!

Incorrect...an additional basis is being a Red Sox fan.


or, really, of any other team.
 
2014-09-02 08:23:40 AM

The Bestest: buckeyebrain: And I can't wait for all that baseball playoff coverage on BSPN if (when) that happens...

/*crickets*

The Dodgers are still likely to make it, so they'll have plenty to disproportionately cover.


Yup, and when they do the chosen heels will besephjnr.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

/ Actually rooting for San Fran to turn the Dodgers over
// Went to SF in July, had a blast
 
2014-09-02 08:49:28 AM
Spending more doesn't mean you WILL win, but it damn sure gives you a better chance than those who don't. It's just that no amount of money can stop injuries, guys underperforming, dumb luck, and short postseason series.

I've never ever heard a Yankees fan say "yeah we only need to spend like $90 million, it works for Oakland and Tampa sometimes".
 
2014-09-02 10:40:19 AM
2013    Boston Red Sox
2012     San Francisco Giants
2011    St. Louis Cardinals  
2010     San Francisco Giants    
2009     New York Yankees  
2008     Philadelphia Phillies    
2007     Boston Red Sox  
2006    St. Louis Cardinals    
2005    Chicago White Sox    
2004     Boston Red Sox

Last ten winners. 70% were top-10 in payroll, the remaining three were just outside.
 
2014-09-02 10:48:08 AM
Alone? Really?  The NHL would like to have a word with you.
 
2014-09-02 11:09:43 AM

ElwoodCuse: Spending more doesn't mean you WILL win, but it damn sure gives you a better chance than those who don't. It's just that no amount of money can stop injuries, guys underperforming, dumb luck, and short postseason series.


This is true, but the common derp out of Yankee haters is "They bought another championship" and not "They bought their way into having a good chance of getting closer to a championship." That's why this article is going to be such a great one to link to in the future.
 
2014-09-02 11:38:39 AM

germ78: I think it has more to do with where teams are spending their money as opposed to who they're spending their money on. If you're spending your money on scouting and player development in the minor leagues, you can become very successful without breaking the bank on players at the major league level.


Read: Do everything the exact opposite of the Phillies
 
2014-09-02 02:53:13 PM
Arnold Rothstein might beg to differ.
 
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