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2014-09-01 02:37:37 AM  
When I saw that picture in the paper this morning, I commented to my Mom (who had noticed it herself, already) that they talk about edible matsutake mushrooms, but the only picture they show is of the highly poisonous amanita muscaria.

Where I grew up in Alaska, a. muscaria are frighteningly common and grow to be 12-18 inches tall and up to about 12 inches across.

They are beautiful to look at, but are toxic to people and dogs.
 
2014-09-01 02:41:27 AM  
All mushrooms are edible---once.
 
2014-09-01 08:42:56 AM  

TheCheese: When I saw that picture in the paper this morning, I commented to my Mom (who had noticed it herself, already) that they talk about edible matsutake mushrooms, but the only picture they show is of the highly poisonous amanita muscaria.

Where I grew up in Alaska, a. muscaria are frighteningly common and grow to be 12-18 inches tall and up to about 12 inches across.

They are beautiful to look at, but are toxic to people and dogs.


Amanita muscaria are less toxic than a lot of the other amanitas. Siberians used to eat them recreationally. You could still fark up and make yourself really, really sick, or die, I suppose, but it's hardly in the same class as Amanita Verna.
 
2014-09-01 08:50:55 AM  
only eat the ones that grow in cow pastures
 
2014-09-01 08:55:35 AM  
Uhm, the amanita muscaria is not poisonous. Thanks for your disinfo, lazy fed.
 
2014-09-01 08:56:01 AM  
Hallucinations and a long nap. Or, as some guys I knew in school put it, Saturday.
 
2014-09-01 09:02:37 AM  

cynicalbastard: Hallucinations and a long nap. Or, as some guys I knew in school put it, Saturday.


Yeah, I was trying to see a downside to eating one of there.
 
2014-09-01 09:07:02 AM  
 
2014-09-01 09:07:23 AM  
 
2014-09-01 09:14:22 AM  

TheCheese: When I saw that picture in the paper this morning, I commented to my Mom (who had noticed it herself, already) that they talk about edible matsutake mushrooms, but the only picture they show is of the highly poisonous amanita muscaria.

Where I grew up in Alaska, a. muscaria are frighteningly common and grow to be 12-18 inches tall and up to about 12 inches across.

They are beautiful to look at, but are toxic to people and dogs.


Muscaria are eaten recreationally by some people for the effects. They're not that toxic.
Also IIRC the Japanese slice them thinly and pickle them, for human consumption.


That said, you wouldn't want to eat these by accident and what's really frickin dangerous is that there are other Amanitas out there that could easily be confused with Muscaria, and the others can kill.
 
2014-09-01 09:31:55 AM  

gunner666: Uhm, the amanita muscaria is not poisonous. Thanks for your disinfo, lazy fed.


Oh, sorry. Is it venomous? Beware being stalked by the amanita muscaria.
 
2014-09-01 09:32:07 AM  

forgotmydamnusername:
Amanita muscaria are less toxic than a lot of the other amanitas. Siberians used to eat them recreationally. You could still fark up and make yourself really, really sick, or die, I suppose, but it's hardly in the same class as Amanita Verna.


They feed them to reindeer then drink their piss. The psychotropic compounds are not metabolized and pass unchanged into the urine. What is metabolized is most of the nasty stuff. IIRC, the shaman drinks the reindeer piss and then the tribe drink his ...

Proto-Germans?
 
2014-09-01 09:32:48 AM  
This is a photo of a matsutake mushroom. We think. Maybe.
 
2014-09-01 09:40:34 AM  

gunner666: Uhm, the amanita muscaria is not poisonous. Thanks for your disinfo, lazy fed.


It is poisonous.  It's just the fun kind of poisonous, not the deadly kind.
 
2014-09-01 09:43:24 AM  
What happened to those "sponsored links?"  I kind of miss them.

Whoah, gotta get off the mushrooms.
 
2014-09-01 09:44:00 AM  

Prophet of Loss: forgotmydamnusername:
Amanita muscaria are less toxic than a lot of the other amanitas. Siberians used to eat them recreationally. You could still fark up and make yourself really, really sick, or die, I suppose, but it's hardly in the same class as Amanita Verna.

They feed them to reindeer then drink their piss. The psychotropic compounds are not metabolized and pass unchanged into the urine. What is metabolized is most of the nasty stuff. IIRC, the shaman drinks the reindeer piss and then the tribe drink his ...

Proto-Germans?


I was going to post about this. To me, the real question is how the practice came to be.
 
2014-09-01 09:50:31 AM  
We trip the shrooms fantastic. Sh*t gets drastic.
 
2014-09-01 09:57:44 AM  
Having ingested amanita muscaria many times, here are 3 points I want to clear up regarding things posted in this thread:

1. Amanita muscaria is not poisonous in the same sense as others of its genus. For best effects, you aren't supposed to eat it raw (you roast it on very low heat), but even raw, it doesn't contain the same hepatoxins as death caps, destroying angels, etc. I think you'd have to eat quite a lot for it to be dangerous.

2. It isn't hallucinogenic in the traditional sense (like psilocybin, LSD, mescaline). I've found it quiets the mind, rather than stimulating it, and produces mostly just somnolence, vivid dreams, and body sensations. Of course, I never had more than 2-3 medium caps at a time, so I can't speak to the effects from heroic doses.

3. You are probably not going to confuse a true A. Muscaria with any other mushroom. There aren't any other mushrooms with large candy-apple red caps with white dots and an egg-cup base. Maybe someone REALLY uninformed could mistake a False Caesar's mushroom for A. muscaria, but I doubt even that.
 
2014-09-01 10:03:11 AM  

sporkme: To me, the real question is how the practice came to be.


You've never watched a Bear. G television program?

Okay - drinking things you otherwise wouldn't is not the reserve of the college student.
 
2014-09-01 10:05:24 AM  

haywatchthis: only eat the ones that grow in cow pastures


Always been my policy.  Never had any issues.

/groovy
 
2014-09-01 10:10:27 AM  
Mushroom festival this weekend!

img.fark.net
 
2014-09-01 10:17:41 AM  

the_celt: haywatchthis: only eat the ones that grow in cow pastures

Always been my policy.  Never had any issues.

/groovy


this.

Now, I wanna go camping with a nice bag of 'em.
 
2014-09-01 10:22:38 AM  
Favored by Trolls, Carrols, and Marios.

img.fark.net littlefun.org
 
2014-09-01 10:27:15 AM  
Some people would pay for the opportunity to hallucinate and then take a long nap. Not me, of course. That would be illegal, and I'd never do anything against the law. But my friend. He would. He definitely would.
 
2014-09-01 10:40:36 AM  

amyldoanitrite: Having ingested amanita muscaria many times, here are 3 points I want to clear up regarding things posted in this thread:

1. Amanita muscaria is not poisonous in the same sense as others of its genus. For best effects, you aren't supposed to eat it raw (you roast it on very low heat), but even raw, it doesn't contain the same hepatoxins as death caps, destroying angels, etc. I think you'd have to eat quite a lot for it to be dangerous.

2. It isn't hallucinogenic in the traditional sense (like psilocybin, LSD, mescaline). I've found it quiets the mind, rather than stimulating it, and produces mostly just somnolence, vivid dreams, and body sensations. Of course, I never had more than 2-3 medium caps at a time, so I can't speak to the effects from heroic doses.

3. You are probably not going to confuse a true A. Muscaria with any other mushroom. There aren't any other mushrooms with large candy-apple red caps with white dots and an egg-cup base. Maybe someone REALLY uninformed could mistake a False Caesar's mushroom for A. muscaria, but I doubt even that.


So you are saying that Smurfs won't come out of the uneaten mushrooms and then sing and dance around you?
 
2014-09-01 10:53:54 AM  

gozar_the_destroyer: amyldoanitrite: Having ingested amanita muscaria many times, here are 3 points I want to clear up regarding things posted in this thread:

1. Amanita muscaria is not poisonous in the same sense as others of its genus. For best effects, you aren't supposed to eat it raw (you roast it on very low heat), but even raw, it doesn't contain the same hepatoxins as death caps, destroying angels, etc. I think you'd have to eat quite a lot for it to be dangerous.

2. It isn't hallucinogenic in the traditional sense (like psilocybin, LSD, mescaline). I've found it quiets the mind, rather than stimulating it, and produces mostly just somnolence, vivid dreams, and body sensations. Of course, I never had more than 2-3 medium caps at a time, so I can't speak to the effects from heroic doses.

3. You are probably not going to confuse a true A. Muscaria with any other mushroom. There aren't any other mushrooms with large candy-apple red caps with white dots and an egg-cup base. Maybe someone REALLY uninformed could mistake a False Caesar's mushroom for A. muscaria, but I doubt even that.

So you are saying that Smurfs won't come out of the uneaten mushrooms and then sing and dance around you?


Would you *want* that?
 
2014-09-01 11:32:32 AM  
I had amanitas growing around the yard at a place I used to live. We picked them, ate them, and they consistently made me pass out. I'll stick to the other kind of fun guy.
 
2014-09-01 11:49:54 AM  
i291.photobucket.com
 
2014-09-01 12:05:43 PM  
I know people love them, but to me there slimy and taste like mud.
 
2014-09-01 12:09:04 PM  

WelldeadLink: gunner666: Uhm, the amanita muscaria is not poisonous. Thanks for your disinfo, lazy fed.

Oh, sorry. Is it venomous? Beware being stalked by the amanita muscaria.


Some of us are poisonous and venomous
 
2014-09-01 12:11:41 PM  
Never never never eat a wild mushroom until you've been well trained by someone who has eaten lots of them over a long period of time and is alive.  Once you get to know for sure a few safe and tasty ones, stick to those.
 
2014-09-01 12:30:25 PM  
www.zhippo.com
 
2014-09-01 12:35:48 PM  
This is all the guide I need:

i521.photobucket.com
 
2014-09-01 01:47:23 PM  

sporkme: Prophet of Loss: forgotmydamnusername:
Amanita muscaria are less toxic than a lot of the other amanitas. Siberians used to eat them recreationally. You could still fark up and make yourself really, really sick, or die, I suppose, but it's hardly in the same class as Amanita Verna.

They feed them to reindeer then drink their piss. The psychotropic compounds are not metabolized and pass unchanged into the urine. What is metabolized is most of the nasty stuff. IIRC, the shaman drinks the reindeer piss and then the tribe drink his ...

Proto-Germans?

I was going to post about this. To me, the real question is how the practice came to be.


I'm guessing Grylls is a Siberian name, then.
 
2014-09-01 02:29:47 PM  

logieal: This is all the guide I need:

[i521.photobucket.com image 621x422]


thing is, that the middle one is also a grat trip if prepped right.

/flies agaric
 
2014-09-01 02:32:17 PM  

logieal: This is all the guide I need:

[i521.photobucket.com image 621x422]


Except that there are young versions of really lethal amanitas which may look almost exactly like your "edible" pictogram.
 
2014-09-01 03:04:32 PM  

virtdave: Never never never eat a wild mushroom until you've been well trained by someone who has eaten lots of them over a long period of time and is alive.  Once you get to know for sure a few safe and tasty ones, stick to those.


This. There are thousands of species of mushrooms and many of them look alike. Unless you have studied mycology, never consume what you think you have. Most mushrooms are so similar, that the only way you can tell the difference between an edible and one that eats your organs are slight variations in the gills or spores, which you'll need a microscope and control sample for. There's a reason mycologists have the terms LBM and BWM.
 
2014-09-01 03:18:15 PM  

dionysusaur: I'm guessing Grylls is a Siberian name, then.


So "Bear," Is that a stupid name?
 
2014-09-01 03:46:26 PM  

FuzedBox: virtdave: Never never never eat a wild mushroom until you've been well trained by someone who has eaten lots of them over a long period of time and is alive.  Once you get to know for sure a few safe and tasty ones, stick to those.

This. There are thousands of species of mushrooms and many of them look alike. Unless you have studied mycology, never consume what you think you have. Most mushrooms are so similar, that the only way you can tell the difference between an edible and one that eats your organs are slight variations in the gills or spores, which you'll need a microscope and control sample for. There's a reason mycologists have the terms LBM and BWM.


Except porcini, which are the only thing that looks like itself. It's next to impossible to go wrong with them.
 
2014-09-01 04:12:20 PM  

UsikFark: gozar_the_destroyer: amyldoanitrite: Having ingested amanita muscaria many times, here are 3 points I want to clear up regarding things posted in this thread:

1. Amanita muscaria is not poisonous in the same sense as others of its genus. For best effects, you aren't supposed to eat it raw (you roast it on very low heat), but even raw, it doesn't contain the same hepatoxins as death caps, destroying angels, etc. I think you'd have to eat quite a lot for it to be dangerous.

2. It isn't hallucinogenic in the traditional sense (like psilocybin, LSD, mescaline). I've found it quiets the mind, rather than stimulating it, and produces mostly just somnolence, vivid dreams, and body sensations. Of course, I never had more than 2-3 medium caps at a time, so I can't speak to the effects from heroic doses.

3. You are probably not going to confuse a true A. Muscaria with any other mushroom. There aren't any other mushrooms with large candy-apple red caps with white dots and an egg-cup base. Maybe someone REALLY uninformed could mistake a False Caesar's mushroom for A. muscaria, but I doubt even that.

So you are saying that Smurfs won't come out of the uneaten mushrooms and then sing and dance around you?

Would you *want* that?


If I am going to use a hallucinogen, I want the full experience. Like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRTjtpkLGoA

\not a Rickroll
\\possibly NSFW
 
2014-09-01 06:57:05 PM  

uttertosh: Except porcini, which are the only thing that looks like itself. It's next to impossible to go wrong with them.


Same for the "Giant puffball".  Nothing toxic in the giant puffball family.  Another safe choice is Hen of the Woods.  in all the areas where I have lived, Hen of the Woods has no look-alikes that are poisonous
 
2014-09-01 07:09:38 PM  

ChicagoKev: uttertosh: Except porcini, which are the only thing that looks like itself. It's next to impossible to go wrong with them.

Same for the "Giant puffball".  Nothing toxic in the giant puffball family.  Another safe choice is Hen of the Woods.  in all the areas where I have lived, Hen of the Woods has no look-alikes that are poisonous


Nothing toxic in the Polypore family (shelf mushrooms).  Trametes versicolor (Turkey Tail) is a Polypore with suspected anti-cancer proporties.
 
2014-09-01 08:40:54 PM  

thamike: dionysusaur: I'm guessing Grylls is a Siberian name, then.

So "Bear," Is that a stupid name?


I think it emphasizes his genetic Russian-ness.
 
2014-09-02 10:16:08 PM  

sporkme: Prophet of Loss: forgotmydamnusername:
Amanita muscaria are less toxic than a lot of the other amanitas. Siberians used to eat them recreationally. You could still fark up and make yourself really, really sick, or die, I suppose, but it's hardly in the same class as Amanita Verna.

They feed them to reindeer then drink their piss. The psychotropic compounds are not metabolized and pass unchanged into the urine. What is metabolized is most of the nasty stuff. IIRC, the shaman drinks the reindeer piss and then the tribe drink his ...

Proto-Germans?

I was going to post about this. To me, the real question is how the practice came to be.


Blame Bear Grylls.
 
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