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(New Musical Express)   Kate Bush becomes the first woman in UK history to have eight albums in the Top 40 simultaneously   (nme.com) divider line 83
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2014-09-01 12:54:37 AM
 
2014-09-01 08:38:55 AM
Her music isn't everyone's cup of tea, but she is an amazing artist. Glad to see so many fans catching up with her. Wish I could make the show.
 
2014-09-01 08:39:30 AM
Somehow I don't think that's the bush that the Internet is going crazy over today.
 
2014-09-01 08:43:39 AM
Who?
 
2014-09-01 08:52:15 AM
So... if you look at the UK Top 40 list, she's got 8 albums on that list right now?

Just making sure I understand this correctly.
 
2014-09-01 09:11:08 AM

Alphax: So... if you look at the UK Top 40 list, she's got 8 albums on that list right now?

Just making sure I understand this correctly.


Yes. That's precisely what that means. To quote TFA:

Kate Bush's album in the charts on August, 31, 2014
6 THE WHOLE STORY
9 HOUNDS OF LOVE
20 50 WORDS FOR SNOW
24 THE KICK INSIDE
26 THE SENSUAL WORLD
37 THE DREAMING
38 NEVER FOR EVER
40 LIONHEART
43 AERIAL
44 DIRECTOR'S CUT
49 THE RED SHOES


I loves me some Kate.
 
2014-09-01 09:16:19 AM
I should have clarified: 8 albums in the Top 40. "Aerial", "Director's Cut", and "The Red Shoes" makes that 11 albums in the top 50. A massive surge in buying her albums because of her recent shows have pushed all those albums back onto the chart.
 
2014-09-01 09:18:01 AM

cygnusx13: Who?


This.
 
2014-09-01 09:18:29 AM
Wow.  I do love that Woman's Work.
 
2014-09-01 09:22:11 AM

Bslim: cygnusx13: Who?

This.


If you've heard Peter Gabriel's album 'So' from 1986, she does the female vocals on 'Don't Give Up'.
 
2014-09-01 09:40:49 AM
And yet I've never heard a second of her music.
 
2014-09-01 09:42:35 AM

Alphax: Bslim: cygnusx13: Who?

This.

If you've heard Peter Gabriel's album 'So' from 1986, she does the female vocals on 'Don't Give Up'.


Hmmm. "In Your Eyes" is about as close as I've ever gotten to hearing her, then.
 
2014-09-01 09:48:25 AM

Two Dogs Farking: Somehow I don't think that's the bush that the Internet is going crazy over today.


The Kate in those pictures does not have a bush.
 
2014-09-01 09:49:24 AM
Wow. You guys are so edgy when you clog up a thread to profess your ignorance.
 
2014-09-01 09:53:22 AM
Did you know that "bush" is a vulgarism for a woman's pubic region? It's true.
 
2014-09-01 10:07:29 AM

jmr61: And yet I've never heard a second of her music.


Chances are you have heard her music. You're just not aware it was her you were listening to. But, perhaps you haven't, if you haven't seen any movies or watched any TV in the last 15-20 years.
 
2014-09-01 10:14:48 AM

gilgigamesh: Wow. You guys are so edgy when you clog up a thread to profess your ignorance.


Just favorite them as "whotard" and move on.
 
2014-09-01 10:17:45 AM
It tends to be all they have.
Whopaderpa
 
2014-09-01 10:28:10 AM

Alphax: Bslim: cygnusx13: Who?

This.

If you've heard Peter Gabriel's album 'So' from 1986, she does the female vocals on 'Don't Give Up'.


I suspect that unless her music has been used for various WWE shows that they wouldn't have had an opportunity to hear her work.
 
2014-09-01 10:31:33 AM
I've been wondering, how do they calculate album sales these days?  Used to be fairly straightforward, but now that you can just buy tracks 3, 5, and 6 off of an album, how does that count?  Sure, there were always singles, but they still required you to buy an entire album, just one that only had 1 or 2 tracks
 
2014-09-01 10:45:10 AM

markfara: Did you know that "bush" is a vulgarism for a woman's pubic region? It's true.


media.salon.com
"Twat" is another word that comes to mind. But I digress.
 
2014-09-01 10:51:30 AM

Last Man on Earth: I've been wondering, how do they calculate album sales these days?  Used to be fairly straightforward, but now that you can just buy tracks 3, 5, and 6 off of an album, how does that count?


Single downloads don't count towards album purchases I'm sure. Remember also that you can still pre-order an album in this digital age, and that likely factors into the chart number. Who would do such a thing, you ask, when they can just wait a couple days and have more choices of single downloads? People who feel like they're special because they're buying something before it's "officially" released, and especially people who like to share with the whole social networking world that they bought a whole album, which sounds more impressive. Yes, such people exist.
 
2014-09-01 10:53:21 AM

Alphax: Bslim: cygnusx13: Who?

This.

If you've heard Peter Gabriel's album 'So' from 1986, she does the female vocals on 'Don't Give Up'.


I never knew that was her. Thanks.
 
2014-09-01 10:59:36 AM
Love me some Bush!
 
2014-09-01 11:07:44 AM
a better question is how many copies do you have to sell to chart on the top 40 album list in the UK?  Where would that same number put you on the US charts?  Also, where is she currently charting on the US charts?

//inquiring minds, etc.  Too lazy to GIS.
 
2014-09-01 11:09:32 AM
one more question.  which chart category is she listed in or is this total album sales, all genre.
 
2014-09-01 11:15:44 AM

Bslim: cygnusx13: Who?

This.


This Kate Bush. More interested now?

img.fark.net


Also, Kate is not amused by your shenanigans:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xckBwPdo1c
 
2014-09-01 11:18:47 AM
Oh the person that ripped off a NFB film for her first video?
 
2014-09-01 11:19:33 AM

cygnusx13: Who?

 
2014-09-01 11:22:31 AM

PunkTiger: Alphax: So... if you look at the UK Top 40 list, she's got 8 albums on that list right now?

Just making sure I understand this correctly.

Yes. That's precisely what that means. To quote TFA:

Kate Bush's album in the charts on August, 31, 2014
6 THE WHOLE STORY
9 HOUNDS OF LOVE
20 50 WORDS FOR SNOW
24 THE KICK INSIDE
26 THE SENSUAL WORLD
37 THE DREAMING
38 NEVER FOR EVER
40 LIONHEART
43 AERIAL
44 DIRECTOR'S CUT
49 THE RED SHOES

I loves me some Kate.


That list is exactly why I have no respect whatsoever for radio/pop music and never listen. 8 albums in top 40 and 11 in top 50 is just ramming that horseshiat down people's throats and ignoring tons of other good music out there for this vapid twat.
 
2014-09-01 11:27:07 AM

gilgigamesh: Wow. You guys are so edgy when you clog up a thread to profess your ignorance.


Just being factual. Sorry if that threatens you two.
 
2014-09-01 11:31:04 AM
Didn't crack the Billboard 100 in the US.  Which had Now That's What I Call Music 51 and 50 at numbers 4 and 20 respectively.

Hadn't taken a look at that list in a long time.  America, you never disappoint.
 
2014-09-01 11:36:03 AM

B.L.Z. Bub: Last Man on Earth: I've been wondering, how do they calculate album sales these days?  Used to be fairly straightforward, but now that you can just buy tracks 3, 5, and 6 off of an album, how does that count?

Single downloads don't count towards album purchases I'm sure. Remember also that you can still pre-order an album in this digital age, and that likely factors into the chart number. Who would do such a thing, you ask, when they can just wait a couple days and have more choices of single downloads? People who feel like they're special because they're buying something before it's "officially" released, and especially people who like to share with the whole social networking world that they bought a whole album, which sounds more impressive. Yes, such people exist.


Sometimes, when you buy the entire album, it also includes bonus tracks for free. Also, if it's a longer album, you save money by just buying all of it. Yes, there are still artists out there who can make an entire album's worth of material, and not just crappy filler.
 
2014-09-01 11:36:25 AM

B.L.Z. Bub: Last Man on Earth: I've been wondering, how do they calculate album sales these days?  Used to be fairly straightforward, but now that you can just buy tracks 3, 5, and 6 off of an album, how does that count?

Single downloads don't count towards album purchases I'm sure. Remember also that you can still pre-order an album in this digital age, and that likely factors into the chart number. Who would do such a thing, you ask, when they can just wait a couple days and have more choices of single downloads? People who feel like they're special because they're buying something before it's "officially" released, and especially people who like to share with the whole social networking world that they bought a whole album, which sounds more impressive. Yes, such people exist.


Uh, is there no reason to buy the entire album because you like the artist and typically enjoy all of their work? It's not like 10$ for an album vs. 3-5 for 'just the singles you want' is a big deal if you have a job.
 
2014-09-01 11:39:09 AM

advex101: a better question is how many copies do you have to sell to chart on the top 40 album list in the UK?  Where would that same number put you on the US charts?  Also, where is she currently charting on the US charts?

//inquiring minds, etc.  Too lazy to GIS.


Probably not very high. US charts vs the charts of other countries are, not surprisingly, quite different. The UK is the most similar, but even they seem to have more diverse tastes than Americans do. Continental Europe is a whole different ball of wax. Some of those countries, classical pianists will outsell Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga.
 
2014-09-01 11:52:33 AM

cygnusx13: gilgigamesh: Wow. You guys are so edgy when you clog up a thread to profess your ignorance.

Just being factual. Sorry if that threatens you two.


I'm not threatened by other people's ignorance. Somewhat baffled by people who revel in it, but not threatened.
 
2014-09-01 12:00:52 PM
Who ?
 
2014-09-01 12:04:49 PM

my lip balm addiction: That list is exactly why I have no respect whatsoever for radio/pop music and never listen. 8 albums in top 40 and 11 in top 50 is just ramming that horseshiat down people's throats and ignoring tons of other good music out there for this vapid twat.


By the time she was 24, this "vapid twat" had written and recorded four hit albums, and had fully taken over every aspect of production and recording her albums as well. By the time of her fifth album - widely considered to be a masterpiece - she had also moved into directing all the videos that accompanied the singles. She was hailed as a wunderkind genius by the likes of Peter Gabriel and Pink Floyd while they were at the heights of their careers.

Still, I'm sure all this pales in comparison to your list of accomplishments. Please enlighten us.
 
2014-09-01 12:05:05 PM

advex101: a better question is how many copies do you have to sell to chart on the top 40 album list in the UK?  Where would that same number put you on the US charts?  Also, where is she currently charting on the US charts?

//inquiring minds, etc.  Too lazy to GIS.


I could only find sales figures down to the top 10 in UK album sales, and that was in the 6-12k per week range, so assuming a zipf type curve, I would imagine top 40/50 would be in the 1-3 thousand albums sold in the UK in a week, or maybe less.
 
2014-09-01 12:09:18 PM

cygnusx13: Bslim: cygnusx13: RY28: Who ?

Who?

This.

Who?



Think Tori Amos, but 15 years earlier and with a lot more musical range.
 
2014-09-01 12:38:59 PM
my lip balm addiction:

That list is exactly why I have no respect whatsoever for radio/pop music and never listen. 8 albums in top 40 and 11 in top 50 is just ramming that horseshiat down people's throats and ignoring tons of other good music out there

x1.fjcdn.com
 
2014-09-01 12:52:06 PM

advex101: a better question is how many copies do you have to sell to chart on the top 40 album list in the UK?  Where would that same number put you on the US charts?  Also, where is she currently charting on the US charts?

//inquiring minds, etc.  Too lazy to GIS.


I'm guessing here, but I think the "top 40" chart is just that -  the album that sells the most copies that week is #1, the next is #2 and so on, whether total sales are say, 10 million albums sold in the country, or 10,000.  It's just who sold the most that week.
The numbers of sales required for "gold" or "platinum" albums are different, though, I know, due to the populations, and I believe every country has different standards, so that an album that goes gold in the UK or in France may be one that doesn't even approach gold in the US.
 
2014-09-01 01:11:36 PM
I think biggest difference is that Billboard charts don't include radio plays
 
2014-09-01 01:12:13 PM

LewDux: I think biggest difference is that Billboard charts don't include radio plays


F
 
2014-09-01 01:17:45 PM

B.L.Z. Bub: Last Man on Earth: I've been wondering, how do they calculate album sales these days?  Used to be fairly straightforward, but now that you can just buy tracks 3, 5, and 6 off of an album, how does that count?

Single downloads don't count towards album purchases I'm sure. Remember also that you can still pre-order an album in this digital age, and that likely factors into the chart number. Who would do such a thing, you ask, when they can just wait a couple days and have more choices of single downloads? People who feel like they're special because they're buying something before it's "officially" released, and especially people who like to share with the whole social networking world that they bought a whole album, which sounds more impressive. Yes, such people exist.


If that's the case, I would seem like it disproportionally favors artists with an older audience, who might be more inclined to still buy CDs and the like, over "younger" artists with a fanbase that grew up with digital downloads.  Seems like a better approach would be to count 5-10 separate song downloads as an album download or something like that.  Still wouldn't be equitable, but at least they'd count for SOMETHING.  Of course, the older method probably helps keep tween crap like Beiber off the charts, so I guess there's a tradeoff.
 
2014-09-01 01:21:40 PM
http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/global/1178423/how-germany - overtook-the-uk-to-become-europes-largest-music-market

Britain leads Europe in per capita album sales:

When it comes to per capita consumption of recorded music, "the U.K. still massively outguns Germany," Liversage notes with confidence. In 2010, album sales in the U.K., which has a population of 62.3 million, totaled 120.8 million across physical and digital formats, according to IFPI. That represents 1.93 albums per capita.

That's twice as many album sales per capita than in the US, which seems to have 1 album sale a year per person:

http://www.businessinsider.com/these-charts-explain-the-real-death-o f- the-music-industry-2011-2


All this makes this accomplishment even more impressive.  Massive album sales in a market twice as competitive as the American one.
 
2014-09-01 01:53:14 PM
 
2014-09-01 02:03:00 PM

Brokenseas: That's twice as many album sales per capita than in the US, which seems to have 1 album sale a year per person:


1 album per year?  I think I've bought about 14 so far this year.
 
2014-09-01 02:06:36 PM

Last Man on Earth: B.L.Z. Bub: Last Man on Earth: I've been wondering, how do they calculate album sales these days?  Used to be fairly straightforward, but now that you can just buy tracks 3, 5, and 6 off of an album, how does that count?

Single downloads don't count towards album purchases I'm sure. Remember also that you can still pre-order an album in this digital age, and that likely factors into the chart number. Who would do such a thing, you ask, when they can just wait a couple days and have more choices of single downloads? People who feel like they're special because they're buying something before it's "officially" released, and especially people who like to share with the whole social networking world that they bought a whole album, which sounds more impressive. Yes, such people exist.

If that's the case, I would seem like it disproportionally favors artists with an older audience, who might be more inclined to still buy CDs and the like, over "younger" artists with a fanbase that grew up with digital downloads.  Seems like a better approach would be to count 5-10 separate song downloads as an album download or something like that.  Still wouldn't be equitable, but at least they'd count for SOMETHING.  Of course, the older method probably helps keep tween crap like Beiber off the charts, so I guess there's a tradeoff.


I think it more favors artists who produce good albums instead of just good singles.
 
2014-09-01 02:09:47 PM

my lip balm addiction: PunkTiger: Alphax: So... if you look at the UK Top 40 list, she's got 8 albums on that list right now?

Just making sure I understand this correctly.

Yes. That's precisely what that means. To quote TFA:

Kate Bush's album in the charts on August, 31, 2014
6 THE WHOLE STORY
9 HOUNDS OF LOVE
20 50 WORDS FOR SNOW
24 THE KICK INSIDE
26 THE SENSUAL WORLD
37 THE DREAMING
38 NEVER FOR EVER
40 LIONHEART
43 AERIAL
44 DIRECTOR'S CUT
49 THE RED SHOES

I loves me some Kate.

That list is exactly why I have no respect whatsoever for radio/pop music and never listen. 8 albums in top 40 and 11 in top 50 is just ramming that horseshiat down people's throats and ignoring tons of other good music out there for this vapid twat.


-1/10 you suck at this
 
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