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(USA Today)   The 10 best-paying jobs for high school graduates who didn't go to college. Finally a top 10 business list that doesn't mention Wal-Mart   (usatoday.com) divider line 38
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2014-08-31 11:11:27 AM  
So...2 of them are drudge work with limited advancement beyond a certain basic level, and the other 3 are 'yes you *can* do it, but getting hired will be a challenge, and advancement will be almost impossible'?

That's...quite the attempt to polish a turd there. Why not go with trades instead? Surveyor, welder, HVAC, electrician, plumber, etc.
 
2014-08-31 12:04:52 PM  
5. Power Plant Operators
> Median annual income: $68,100
> Total number employed: 39,810
> Projected change 2012 - 2022: -10.8%
Power plant operators earned a median pay of $68,100 in 2013 managing the systems that distribute and generate electric power over an area. Although workers with college or vocational degrees are preferred, only a high school diploma is necessary because the operator undergoes extensive on-the-job training both in the classroom and the plant. Operators often work in shifts because power plants operate around the clock. It is likely that pay for this position is high due to the negative aspects of working variable hours, especially late night shifts.

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2014-08-31 02:24:52 PM  
Or just learn to program.
 
2014-08-31 02:30:55 PM  
"Crack whore" not on the list. What the hell, USA Today?
 
2014-08-31 02:33:02 PM  

whistleridge: So...2 of them are drudge work with limited advancement beyond a certain basic level, and the other 3 are 'yes you *can* do it, but getting hired will be a challenge, and advancement will be almost impossible'?

That's...quite the attempt to polish a turd there. Why not go with trades instead? Surveyor, welder, HVAC, electrician, plumber, etc.


Probably because those jobs don't make as much as the jobs listed in the article.
 
2014-08-31 02:33:10 PM  
Why did they leave off "Williston Oilfield Worker?"
 
2014-08-31 02:52:28 PM  
Commercial pilot? hahahahahahaha. As someone who paid his own way thru flight school you would be better off piling up your $$$$ and setting them on fire. Good luck competing with the glut of extremely high time military pilots transitioning to the civilian market.
 
2014-08-31 03:28:02 PM  
I'm surprised car salesman isn't on the list. Most of the guys where I work didn't go to college. The good ones make at least $100k a year and even the shiatty ones make about $60k.
 
2014-08-31 03:28:23 PM  
Yeah, because hookers don't earn any money if they're good looking.
 
2014-08-31 03:39:38 PM  
More like: Theoretical list of jobs that one could get with only* a HS diploma.

*we leave money, self-study, and piratical apprenticeship up to the individual applicant to form their own opinion of necessity
 
2014-08-31 04:36:50 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: "Crack whore" not on the list. What the hell, USA Today?


Reminds me of an old Saturday Night Live joke from back when Norm MacDonald was doing Weekend Update:

"According to the U.S. News & World Report 1997 Career Guide, the best job in the United States, for the second year in a row, is Interactive Business System Analyst. However, last year's worst job, Assistant Crack Whore, has been replaced by a new worst job: Crack Whore Trainee."
 
2014-08-31 04:56:30 PM  
Bullshiat. McDonald's assured us that $7.00/hr is more than generous.
 
2014-08-31 05:07:01 PM  
Strange.  I clicked the bait and it sent me to this article instead:

10 Best-Paying Jobs College Graduates Will Outcompete You For
 
2014-08-31 06:37:33 PM  
I recently applied for a sales position at a BMW dealership.  Both the sales manager and general manager were quite upfront about neither of them having a college education.
 
2014-08-31 06:38:58 PM  
Commercial pilot worked out for me, but I wish I finished college.

It's tough to recommend anyone get into aviation if you don't already have an inclination. If you do it for the money, you're an idiot and will burn out and hate life I'm sure.
 
2014-08-31 06:40:16 PM  

aimtastic: I'm surprised car salesman isn't on the list. Most of the guys where I work didn't go to college. The good ones make at least $100k a year and even the shiatty ones make about $60k.


That's what I was told.  If I were to only be making $35k a year in commission, that would be considered sub-par and likely to be shown the door to make room for someone who is "hungrier".  $60-$80k is considered average, six figures if you're good at it and have regular repeat customers.
 
2014-08-31 07:12:50 PM  
How about stripping?
 
2014-08-31 07:15:45 PM  
Where is lawyer?

www.whitehouse.gov
 
2014-08-31 07:18:30 PM  
I dropped out of college to persue a broadcast career (hence my fark handle). Now I manage a specialty retail store but looking for another change. While I don't regret, exactly, my choice to drop out I do wish I had a degree now. fark it. That's life.
 
2014-08-31 07:19:13 PM  
Pursue. Pursue.

Now I really regret it.
 
2014-08-31 08:07:11 PM  
I worked for a telecom for 12 years out of highschool... The first 5 soul sucking years in sales and call center..now I make six figures in a job I love. I moved to four different cities in 12 years, but it was all worth it. People want everything handed to them..get involved at your job and be the go to person willing to work on anything and you can move up..
 
2014-08-31 08:22:45 PM  

FlyPanAm: Commercial pilot worked out for me, but I wish I finished college.

It's tough to recommend anyone get into aviation if you don't already have an inclination. If you do it for the money, you're an idiot and will burn out and hate life I'm sure.


I've wanted to get my helicopter license for a very long time. I'm told in the right area it can be quite lucrative for a myriad of things (besides, it seems really handy to have).
 
2014-08-31 08:37:11 PM  

Kraftwerk Orange: I recently applied for a sales position at a BMW dealership.  Both the sales manager and general manager were quite upfront about neither of them having a college education.


I was told that my college degree would make me unapproachable and intimidating to customers. I like to use "big words."

I asked what percent of new car customers had a college education versus how many had a high school education only. The manager told me that was the problem, college grads think too much to be relateable to customers.

I guess most people turn their brains off when buying $30k items.
 
2014-08-31 10:22:49 PM  
2. Elevator Installers and Repairers
I see a guy who wroks for Otis a few times a week, he realy seems to hate his job. All that money don't mean a thing if you don't like what your doing.  Maybe it's just him.

3. Detectives and Criminal Investigators
not all places are equal , around here they must have a 2 year Law Enforcement degree.
 
2014-08-31 11:32:39 PM  
Engineer should be on the list; hell, I have a GED and I'm a licensed PE.
 
2014-08-31 11:59:04 PM  
What about the financial services industry? Go to work at a call center... Get your Series 6 and 63.... Then your 7.... Then get the 65 so you have the equivalent of the 66... And finally your 24 and/or 9/10... More valuable than a degree...
 
2014-09-01 12:44:08 AM  

havana_joe: What about the financial services industry? Go to work at a call center... Get your Series 6 and 63.... Then your 7.... Then get the 65 so you have the equivalent of the 66... And finally your 24 and/or 9/10... More valuable than a degree...


Don't forget Series 3
 
2014-09-01 12:47:18 AM  
Finance and IT are two fields where performance matters more than degrees. At least in the English speaking world.
 
2014-09-01 01:09:25 AM  

Dickson Poon: Series 3


More of a specialized license, but valuable in for a boutique firm. Definitely has value but hard to get in most of the big firms.
 
2014-09-01 05:25:27 AM  

llortcM_yllort: whistleridge: So...2 of them are drudge work with limited advancement beyond a certain basic level, and the other 3 are 'yes you *can* do it, but getting hired will be a challenge, and advancement will be almost impossible'?

That's...quite the attempt to polish a turd there. Why not go with trades instead? Surveyor, welder, HVAC, electrician, plumber, etc.

Probably because those jobs don't make as much as the jobs listed in the article.


I don't know about the other trades/locations, but experienced plumbers and welders make upwards of $80K a year around here.
 
2014-09-01 07:47:34 AM  

Exception Collection: Engineer should be on the list; hell, I have a GED and I'm a licensed PE.


You're a dying breed, then. I've been through hundreds (if not thousands at this point) engineering positions (as I graduate in 8.5 months) and a B.S. + F.E. are required for most of them. Getting to P.E. under those conditions is next to impossible.

Dickson Poon: Finance and IT are two fields where performance matters more than degrees. At least in the English speaking world.


I've met many IT specialists who have English/History/Philosophy degrees. One of them got poached during an IT conference she was sent to in order to improve her current positions IT situation. Then again, her position has been a revolving door for some time, so I guess that part isn't surprising.
 
2014-09-01 09:36:59 AM  

ajgeek: I've met many IT specialists who have English/History/Philosophy degrees. One of them got poached during an IT conference she was sent to in order to improve her current positions IT situation. Then again, her position has been a revolving door for some time, so I guess that part isn't surprising.


Don't forget Music.   IT is the easiest to get into for those without a degree and for those that realized their degree doesn't pay the bills.

/skipped college
 
2014-09-01 11:36:46 AM  

Gecko Gingrich: Exception Collection: Engineer should be on the list; hell, I have a GED and I'm a licensed PE.

You can't do that anymore.


Depends on the State.  OR, AK, WA, CA, HI, NY at least all have rules that allow for experience to replace education.
 
2014-09-01 11:47:17 AM  

Gecko Gingrich: Exception Collection: Gecko Gingrich: Exception Collection: Engineer should be on the list; hell, I have a GED and I'm a licensed PE.

You can't do that anymore.

Depends on the State.  OR, AK, WA, CA, HI, NY at least all have rules that allow for experience to replace education.

That may very well be true, but to get a PE, one first must graduate from an accredited four year engineering school.


No, to get a PE one must comply with the laws of the state that you are registering with. I got my license in 2009, and pay close attention to OR and CA law.
 
2014-09-01 02:17:50 PM  
I never graduated Kindergarten;  after three years I was a mature student and moved on up.  Same in HS; three tries and a mature admission to College with accredited 2 and 4 years Certs and Degrees; same in grad school= NOT ONE Degree but can claim to have a certain degree "OF" Education
 
hej
2014-09-01 03:24:29 PM  
At some point, people will figure out the difference between education and vocational training.
 
2014-09-01 07:18:21 PM  

dolphkhan: llortcM_yllort: whistleridge: So...2 of them are drudge work with limited advancement beyond a certain basic level, and the other 3 are 'yes you *can* do it, but getting hired will be a challenge, and advancement will be almost impossible'?

That's...quite the attempt to polish a turd there. Why not go with trades instead? Surveyor, welder, HVAC, electrician, plumber, etc.

Probably because those jobs don't make as much as the jobs listed in the article.

I don't know about the other trades/locations, but experienced plumbers and welders make upwards of $80K a year around here.


So your profile says you live in Wochester, MA.  According to the BLS (same place the article gets its data), welders in Worchester in the 90th percentile of wages make $57,660 a year.   Plumbers in the 90th percentile do make $83,660 in Worchester, but those in the 75th percentile do not.  The national average for these jobs are about $40k and $53k, respectively.  Neither of these are bad jobs, but people on the internet tend to exaggerate what they make and the data paints a much less rosy picture.  What gives?
 
2014-09-01 10:22:43 PM  
I'm going to call BS on those postal jobs being included as "best paying."

They already admit that there will be a serious decline in numbers.

As the post office pares down their numbers, the chances of going big off of an entry-level position drop considerably.

If the post office gets rid of the more expensive people to create opportunity, the pay rate will no longer qualify for this list.

/yeah, the PO is screwed.
 
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