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(Telegraph)   France's new economic minister considers scrapping the 35 hour work week, since it's not like workers need any extra time to shower to get ready to go to the office   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 26
    More: Followup, new economy, Rothschild, David Cameron, President Francois Hollande  
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2014-08-31 09:18:07 PM  
He suggested that changes could go further still, and asked why this liberalisation should not be extended to all companies, "provided that there is a majority agreement with the employees".

I'm sure that companies won't find a way to put "pressure" on employees to agree
 
2014-08-31 10:52:35 PM  
Or surrendering, if you will.
 
2014-08-31 10:55:28 PM  
Appparently, they will need employees to collaborate on this plan.
 
2014-08-31 11:06:57 PM  
Don't do it, France. You'll think you're being pro-business, and then business will take you to the cleaners and 70 hour works weeks for 40 hours of pay will become the norm for you, too.
 
2014-08-31 11:24:26 PM  
Relax.  It's all part of his strategic plan to capitalize on all the repair work that will be required after the riots are over.
 
2014-08-31 11:37:31 PM  
Lol. France is desperately shedding idiotic socialist policies to try to help their economy.
 
2014-08-31 11:42:05 PM  

Sergeant Grumbles: Don't do it, France. You'll think you're being pro-business, and then business will take you to the cleaners and 70 hour works weeks for 40 hours of pay will become the norm for you, too.


This! You let a company dictate terms as "My way or leave it" during an economic downturn, they'll keep tightening the reigns even after the economy recovers. A 35 hour work week should be for the United States too, as there are fewer jobs out there (offset the loss of hours with a minimum wage increase, which has been long overdue anyway) and companies aren't hiring unless they get demand for it, we need other ways to give more people jobs, especially those forced out of their job by the business and having to work a job at less pay than their previous job.
 
2014-08-31 11:58:16 PM  
Next thing you know they'll be down to 26 weeks of vacation.
 
2014-09-01 12:59:50 AM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Lol. France is desperately shedding idiotic socialist policies to try to help their economy.


Funny, i have you marked as ann randian.  Seems about right.
 
2014-09-01 02:36:34 AM  
I work in France, and my weekly work hours haven't changed much from when I was in NA.  Certainly the vacations and stat-holiday situation is very different, but unless you're a unionized clock-punching worker, you're not working 35-hours.
 
2014-09-01 04:57:12 AM  

Unknown_Poltroon: Debeo Summa Credo: Lol. France is desperately shedding idiotic socialist policies to try to help their economy.

Funny, i have you marked as ann randian.  Seems about right.


I have him as "Thinks Oil Speculation has no effect on price / Idiot or paid shill"

Comes out to about the same though.
 
2014-09-01 05:30:03 AM  

Jormungandr: Unknown_Poltroon: Debeo Summa Credo: Lol. France is desperately shedding idiotic socialist policies to try to help their economy.

Funny, i have you marked as ann randian.  Seems about right.

I have him as "Thinks Oil Speculation has no effect on price / Idiot or paid shill"

Comes out to about the same though.


It's so much better to just have him on ignore. Trust me.
 
2014-09-01 05:37:42 AM  
Geeze... 7 hours of work and an hour of break/lunch.  You will get better productivity out of your workers if you let them catch their breath every once and awhile.

/currently working at a new job... 10 hour long graveyard shifts with an agreement of "no overtime for 10 hours".... well, at least it is full time.
 
2014-09-01 05:47:45 AM  
Damn, subby, that headline is more labored than all of France.
 
2014-09-01 06:55:37 AM  

Jormungandr: Unknown_Poltroon: Debeo Summa Credo: Lol. France is desperately shedding idiotic socialist policies to try to help their economy.

Funny, i have you marked as ann randian.  Seems about right.

I have him as "Thinks Oil Speculation has no effect on price / Idiot or paid shill"

Comes out to about the same though.


Ahh, you are a speculation alarmist, huh? Tell me, do you blame speculators whenever gas prices go down?
 
2014-09-01 06:56:45 AM  

inclemency: Jormungandr: Unknown_Poltroon: Debeo Summa Credo: Lol. France is desperately shedding idiotic socialist policies to try to help their economy.

Funny, i have you marked as ann randian.  Seems about right.

I have him as "Thinks Oil Speculation has no effect on price / Idiot or paid shill"

Comes out to about the same though.

It's so much better to just have him on ignore. Trust me.


So much butthurt over stupid socialist economic policies failing. Oh well, back to class students.
 
2014-09-01 08:56:26 AM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Jormungandr: Unknown_Poltroon: Debeo Summa Credo: Lol. France is desperately shedding idiotic socialist policies to try to help their economy.

Funny, i have you marked as ann randian.  Seems about right.

I have him as "Thinks Oil Speculation has no effect on price / Idiot or paid shill"

Comes out to about the same though.

Ahh, you are a speculation alarmist, huh? Tell me, do you blame speculators whenever gas prices go down?


Can't we all just get along...?

I'm not sure DSC has ever claimed speculators can't have a short-term effect on commodity prices.

If you think it's speculators and not supply/demand that set the long term price trend... I'd have to respectfully suggest some studying of it out. ;-o
 
2014-09-01 09:08:11 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Sergeant Grumbles: Don't do it, France. You'll think you're being pro-business, and then business will take you to the cleaners and 70 hour works weeks for 40 hours of pay will become the norm for you, too.

This! You let a company dictate terms as "My way or leave it" during an economic downturn, they'll keep tightening the reigns even after the economy recovers. A 35 hour work week should be for the United States too, as there are fewer jobs out there (offset the loss of hours with a minimum wage increase, which has been long overdue anyway) and companies aren't hiring unless they get demand for it, we need other ways to give more people jobs, especially those forced out of their job by the business and having to work a job at less pay than their previous job.


Gotta love For Profit Capitalism.
Especially when the wealth is trickling down.
And the minimum wage is so good is hasn't needed to be raised in 30 years.
As well as people loving their job so much they'll work 70 hours a week, no overtime.
Isn't it great to be a manager in America?
 
2014-09-01 09:55:17 AM  

skeevy420: DarkSoulNoHope: Sergeant Grumbles: Don't do it, France. You'll think you're being pro-business, and then business will take you to the cleaners and 70 hour works weeks for 40 hours of pay will become the norm for you, too.

This! You let a company dictate terms as "My way or leave it" during an economic downturn, they'll keep tightening the reigns even after the economy recovers. A 35 hour work week should be for the United States too, as there are fewer jobs out there (offset the loss of hours with a minimum wage increase, which has been long overdue anyway) and companies aren't hiring unless they get demand for it, we need other ways to give more people jobs, especially those forced out of their job by the business and having to work a job at less pay than their previous job.

Gotta love For Profit Capitalism.
Especially when the wealth is trickling down.
And the minimum wage is so good is hasn't needed to be raised in 30 years.
As well as people loving their job so much they'll work 70 hours a week, no overtime.
Isn't it great to be a manager in America?


As a manager in America, currently working 52 hours this week on 37 hours "regular pay" with 8 hours "holiday" meant to give me a third day of(HA!), a WHOLE LOTTA THIS!
 
2014-09-01 10:25:40 AM  

Sergeant Grumbles: Don't do it, France. You'll think you're being pro-business, and then business will take you to the cleaners and 70 hour works weeks for 40 hours of pay will become the norm for you, too.


Where is this done, even in the US there are laws against this and companies will face massive fines if they try it.

The point remains that France's law is very restrictive to businesses who want to compete internationally, now local stores should not have a hard time working within the constructs of the law.
 
2014-09-01 10:45:07 AM  
Yeah, become a "right to work" state.

Idiots in the U.S. believe that is what it sounds like, but it really means workers have almost no rights and it really should be called "right to fire your ass for any reason or no reason but you should act joyful while we use your ass to make us rich."

The retirement plan is administered by the mortuary next door.
 
2014-09-01 11:57:50 AM  

steamingpile: Where is this done, even in the US there are laws against this and companies will face massive fines if they try it.


www.cah.utexas.edu
 
2014-09-01 01:10:01 PM  

opiumpoopy: Debeo Summa Credo: Jormungandr: Unknown_Poltroon: Debeo Summa Credo: Lol. France is desperately shedding idiotic socialist policies to try to help their economy.

Funny, i have you marked as ann randian.  Seems about right.

I have him as "Thinks Oil Speculation has no effect on price / Idiot or paid shill"

Comes out to about the same though.

Ahh, you are a speculation alarmist, huh? Tell me, do you blame speculators whenever gas prices go down?

Can't we all just get along...?

I'm not sure DSC has ever claimed speculators can't have a short-term effect on commodity prices.

If you think it's speculators and not supply/demand that set the long term price trend... I'd have to respectfully suggest some studying of it out. ;-o


There are people (not only on fark but IRL) who actually believe that if it weren't for speculators they'd still be paying $2 per gallon. Whenever the price goes up they blame speculators, but when the price goes down....crickets.
 
2014-09-01 01:26:20 PM  

dryknife: Yeah, become a "right to work" state.

Idiots in the U.S. believe that is what it sounds like, but it really means workers have almost no rights and it really should be called "right to fire your ass for any reason or no reason but you should act joyful while we use your ass to make us rich."

The retirement plan is administered by the mortuary next door.


I agree with that in principle, on the other hand though, I had problems with firing someone who was using marijuana for "religious reasons". I don't mind if you're stoned out of your ass on the weekend, but you should come in on Monday sober, that's all I'm saying...
 
2014-09-02 01:33:52 AM  

dryknife: Yeah, become a "right to work" state.

Idiots in the U.S. believe that is what it sounds like, but it really means workers have almost no rights and it really should be called "right to fire your ass for any reason or no reason but you should act joyful while we use your ass to make us rich."

The retirement plan is administered by the mortuary next door.


What has 'forced to give money to a union' for a job got to do with any of this? (That's what right to work means, you can't be forced to join a union)
 
2014-09-02 02:07:30 PM  

CujoQuarrel: What has 'forced to give money to a union' for a job got to do with any of this? (That's what right to work means, you can't be forced to join a union)


Obfuscation, that's what. All I'm saying is that the title of laws are worded to mean things other than what they sound like, and you have proved it.
 
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