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2014-09-01 12:05:49 AM  
www.feistees.com
 
2014-09-01 01:16:03 AM  
The women said that going out was their civic duty.
 
2014-09-01 01:27:15 AM  
Bet they were cooking up a hot dish.
www.lutheransonline.com
 
2014-09-01 01:28:08 AM  
Have you heard the good word about our Church cooked meth?

Must sell, will sacrifice.
 
2014-09-01 01:59:13 AM  
Amphetamines are the opiate of the masses
 
2014-09-01 02:00:02 AM  
Meth bust a first for rural Montgomery County church

I should hope so.
 
2014-09-01 02:03:58 AM  
I am the manger.
 
2014-09-01 02:04:56 AM  

Still shot of church basement taken from security video:

i229.photobucket.com

 
2014-09-01 02:06:30 AM  
Hey, at least the little darlins were in church and doing come cooking.  If that ain't America, well, ah don't know what is.
 
2014-09-01 02:09:14 AM  
"Well, isn't that special."
 
2014-09-01 02:12:12 AM  
I don't want to be a wet blanket, but is all this hard drug bullsh*t, meth, crack, horse, actually making anybody happy and beautiful?
 
2014-09-01 02:32:59 AM  

bunner: I don't want to be a wet blanket, but is all this hard drug bullsh*t, meth, crack, horse, actually making anybody happy and beautiful?


No, it is an escape from a cruel reality into a crueler life of drug addiction. Nobody is doing these drugs to be happy and beautiful. No one drinks because they think that is how it is. I am glad we could have this talk.
 
2014-09-01 02:35:22 AM  
J.Henkem? Too bad the Huff Po weren't on the case.

/that is all
 
2014-09-01 02:45:52 AM  

The Angry Hand of God: bunner: I don't want to be a wet blanket, but is all this hard drug bullsh*t, meth, crack, horse, actually making anybody happy and beautiful?

No, it is an escape from a cruel reality into a crueler life of drug addiction. Nobody is doing these drugs to be happy and beautiful. No one drinks because they think that is how it is. I am glad we could have this talk.


Does dope take the edge off the need to try and palm off dime store condescension as insight?  Call me when the war on drugs is waged against the cheap, sh*tty, useless things we weave into the fabric of our society that makes people want to use them.
 
2014-09-01 02:50:25 AM  

bunner: I don't want to be a wet blanket, but is all this hard drug bullsh*t, meth, crack, horse, actually making anybody happy and beautiful?


I suppose it makes them happy and beautiful on the inside.
 
2014-09-01 02:52:26 AM  

Theory Of Null: bunner: I don't want to be a wet blanket, but is all this hard drug bullsh*t, meth, crack, horse, actually making anybody happy and beautiful?

I suppose it makes them happy and beautiful on the inside.


I think that's called "delusional" but then again, we're dealing with a society wherein "hope" is a campaign promise.
 
2014-09-01 02:53:35 AM  

bunner: The Angry Hand of God: bunner: I don't want to be a wet blanket, but is all this hard drug bullsh*t, meth, crack, horse, actually making anybody happy and beautiful?

No, it is an escape from a cruel reality into a crueler life of drug addiction. Nobody is doing these drugs to be happy and beautiful. No one drinks because they think that is how it is. I am glad we could have this talk.

Does dope take the edge off the need to try and palm off dime store condescension as insight?  Call me when the war on drugs is waged against the cheap, sh*tty, useless things we weave into the fabric of our society that makes people want to use them.


When I was doing crystal lo many years ago I did it because it was fun. Besides making me feel good it gave me the energy to go out after a long day of work and strike up conversations with people I might not have otherwise. Met a lot of new people and had a very active social life. It also helped because I was in a new city where I hardly knew anyone.

Bonus: I didn't rob, beat, rape or kill anyone, didn't miss any work because of it and I still have all my teeth. And when I left that city I simply stopped doing it. Not saying everyone should try it, but the widespread demonization of meth users irks me a bit. We're not all rapacious monsters with no impulse control.
 
2014-09-01 02:58:01 AM  

fusillade762: Bonus: I didn't rob, beat, rape or kill anyone, didn't miss any work because of it and I still have all my teeth. And when I left that city I simply stopped doing it. Not saying everyone should try it, but the widespread demonization of meth users irks me a bit. We're not all rapacious monsters with no impulse control.


And when you or anybody else doesn't need it to do any of those thing successfully, I'll assume we've won the war on drugs.  There is this de facto cachet of leftover "hipness" from Lord knows what piss poor excuse for a functional culture's rites of passage wherein if you can "handle it", you are some sort of superstar.  This doesn't have much purchase with me.
 
2014-09-01 03:00:30 AM  

bunner: The Angry Hand of God: bunner: I don't want to be a wet blanket, but is all this hard drug bullsh*t, meth, crack, horse, actually making anybody happy and beautiful?

No, it is an escape from a cruel reality into a crueler life of drug addiction. Nobody is doing these drugs to be happy and beautiful. No one drinks because they think that is how it is. I am glad we could have this talk.

Does dope take the edge off the need to try and palm off dime store condescension as insight?  Call me when the war on drugs is waged against the cheap, sh*tty, useless things we weave into the fabric of our society that makes people want to use them.


What are you trying to say? Society is sh*t? Yeah, I would agree. Most people are out for number one. I am an addict myself. I am someone that doesn't want it fixed. It isn't speed, heroin, crack, etc. The point is I am no different from any of those trying to strike their own reality, because quite truthfully, mine is beautifully miserable in its composition.

I myself, don't want to be this way, but it has never been a choice to me. I am always hurting in a way most people do not comprehend.

At the sane time, I am successful taking care of a family, and also keeping more than adaquate income funneling in.

This is not a war on drugs, it is a war on mental health.
 
2014-09-01 03:01:27 AM  

fusillade762: bunner: The Angry Hand of God: bunner: I don't want to be a wet blanket, but is all this hard drug bullsh*t, meth, crack, horse, actually making anybody happy and beautiful?

No, it is an escape from a cruel reality into a crueler life of drug addiction. Nobody is doing these drugs to be happy and beautiful. No one drinks because they think that is how it is. I am glad we could have this talk.

Does dope take the edge off the need to try and palm off dime store condescension as insight?  Call me when the war on drugs is waged against the cheap, sh*tty, useless things we weave into the fabric of our society that makes people want to use them.

When I was doing crystal lo many years ago I did it because it was fun. Besides making me feel good it gave me the energy to go out after a long day of work and strike up conversations with people I might not have otherwise. Met a lot of new people and had a very active social life. It also helped because I was in a new city where I hardly knew anyone.

Bonus: I didn't rob, beat, rape or kill anyone, didn't miss any work because of it and I still have all my teeth. And when I left that city I simply stopped doing it. Not saying everyone should try it, but the widespread demonization of meth users irks me a bit. We're not all rapacious monsters with no impulse contr



Nice try.
 
2014-09-01 03:03:06 AM  

fusillade762: bunner: The Angry Hand of God: bunner: I don't want to be a wet blanket, but is all this hard drug bullsh*t, meth, crack, horse, actually making anybody happy and beautiful?

No, it is an escape from a cruel reality into a crueler life of drug addiction. Nobody is doing these drugs to be happy and beautiful. No one drinks because they think that is how it is. I am glad we could have this talk.

Does dope take the edge off the need to try and palm off dime store condescension as insight?  Call me when the war on drugs is waged against the cheap, sh*tty, useless things we weave into the fabric of our society that makes people want to use them.

When I was doing crystal lo many years ago I did it because it was fun. Besides making me feel good it gave me the energy to go out after a long day of work and strike up conversations with people I might not have otherwise. Met a lot of new people and had a very active social life. It also helped because I was in a new city where I hardly knew anyone.

Bonus: I didn't rob, beat, rape or kill anyone, didn't miss any work because of it and I still have all my teeth. And when I left that city I simply stopped doing it. Not saying everyone should try it, but the widespread demonization of meth users irks me a bit. We're not all rapacious monsters with no impulse control.


No, but many become sad, scabby, stringy-hair whores with no lives and no money and empty larders.

I used meth for three years because it treated my bipolar disorder so well. (Protip: If you know a meth-head who can sleep while on meth, they've got bipolar) But eventually, it came to where it was either start shooting or stop using, and lucky for me I was able to stop using. Since I was unemployed at the time, I'd have been working the streets next. But it wasn't the meth, of course, it was the depression.

It isn't that meth is worse than any other addiction--it's that addiction itself is such a destroyer of lives and that society is so unforgiving of it and so unsuited to dealing with it. You and I both got lucky and never got caught--but one dirty urine test and we'd both be flipping burgers for a living because METH=LIFETIME FELON and you know it too.

And as with any other habit, it isn't the users that are the problem. It's the illegal makers, manufacturers and bulk sellers who are mostly the problem. Not saying if meth was legal the problem would be gone--but it sure would cut down the number of Nazi labs and exploding churches.
 
2014-09-01 03:05:12 AM  

The Angry Hand of God: What are you trying to say? Society is sh*t? Yeah, I would agree.


Don't worry, there's tons of dope around.  And booze.  Sweet, sweet booze.  And if you can get to where you don't have to care, it doesn't matter if society is sh*t.  Bonus - it makes a lot of people rich.

The Angry Hand of God: This is not a war on drugs, it is a war on mental health.


Money worship has that effect on the more sane members of a society
 
2014-09-01 03:06:44 AM  

Gyrfalcon: fusillade762: bunner: The Angry Hand of God: bunner: I don't want to be a wet blanket, but is all this hard drug bullsh*t, meth, crack, horse, actually making anybody happy and beautiful?

No, it is an escape from a cruel reality into a crueler life of drug addiction. Nobody is doing these drugs to be happy and beautiful. No one drinks because they think that is how it is. I am glad we could have this talk.

Does dope take the edge off the need to try and palm off dime store condescension as insight?  Call me when the war on drugs is waged against the cheap, sh*tty, useless things we weave into the fabric of our society that makes people want to use them.

When I was doing crystal lo many years ago I did it because it was fun. Besides making me feel good it gave me the energy to go out after a long day of work and strike up conversations with people I might not have otherwise. Met a lot of new people and had a very active social life. It also helped because I was in a new city where I hardly knew anyone.

Bonus: I didn't rob, beat, rape or kill anyone, didn't miss any work because of it and I still have all my teeth. And when I left that city I simply stopped doing it. Not saying everyone should try it, but the widespread demonization of meth users irks me a bit. We're not all rapacious monsters with no impulse control.

No, but many become sad, scabby, stringy-hair whores with no lives and no money and empty larders.

I used meth for three years because it treated my bipolar disorder so well. (Protip: If you know a meth-head who can sleep while on meth, they've got bipolar) But eventually, it came to where it was either start shooting or stop using, and lucky for me I was able to stop using. Since I was unemployed at the time, I'd have been working the streets next. But it wasn't the meth, of course, it was the depression.

It isn't that meth is worse than any other addiction--it's that addiction itself is such a destroyer of lives and that society is so unforgiving of it and so unsuited to dealing with it. You and I both got lucky and never got caught--but one dirty urine test and we'd both be flipping burgers for a living because METH=LIFETIME FELON and you know it too.

And as with any other habit, it isn't the users that are the problem. It's the illegal makers, manufacturers and bulk sellers who are mostly the problem. Not saying if meth was legal the problem would be gone--but it sure would cut down the number of Nazi labs and exploding churches.


Not judging you personally, but when I hear, "quit meth," it almost always has been because you were broke enough to detox. Personal experience.
 
2014-09-01 03:14:48 AM  

bunner: The Angry Hand of God: What are you trying to say? Society is sh*t? Yeah, I would agree.

Don't worry, there's tons of dope around.  And booze.  Sweet, sweet booze.  And if you can get to where you don't have to care, it doesn't matter if society is sh*t.  Bonus - it makes a lot of people rich.

The Angry Hand of God: This is not a war on drugs, it is a war on mental health.

Money worship has that effect on the more sane members of a society


So, what is your point? Buying iPhones makes someone rich. All I am saying is addiction sounds stupid to those who don't have it. I look at people that don't have an addiction as idiots. I can't see how you could accept our current state of affairs. Anyway, the bottom line is you don't understand addiction, but you seem to understand the futility of prosecution for offenders of such matters.
 
2014-09-01 03:18:09 AM  
We will forgive anything in America if it makes somebody, preferably us, richer or held in greater esteem, even by the most doppish and gullible.  Everybody has to be the toughest monkey, the smoothest smoothie or the b*tchiest b*tch.  That's not a culture, that's a cross between a video game, a bad soap opera and a con artist's wet dream.  I understand addiction just fine.  The  cure is to remove the causative factors that prompt it.  Prosecution futile?  My dear boy, you're trying to pull the rug out from a multi billion dollar industry.  The justice factory frowns upon your thought crimes.
 
2014-09-01 03:19:32 AM  

bunner: We will forgive anything in America if it makes somebody, preferably us, richer or held in greater esteem, even by the most doppish and gullible.  Everybody has to be the toughest monkey, the smoothest smoothie or the b*tchiest b*tch.  That's not a culture, that's a cross between a video game, a bad soap opera and a con artist's wet dream.  I understand addiction just fine.  The  cure is to remove the causative factors that prompt it.  Prosecution futile?  My dear boy, you're trying to pull the rug out from a multi billion dollar industry.  The justice factory frowns upon your thought crimes.


God dammit. You're OK with me.
 
2014-09-01 03:28:06 AM  

Gyrfalcon: one dirty urine test and we'd both be flipping burgers for a living because METH=LIFETIME FELON and you know it too.


Heh. At the time I was working for a videogaming company in San Francisco. If they'd drug tested us they would have had to fire 2/3rds of the company.
 
2014-09-01 03:32:12 AM  

fusillade762: Heh. At the time I was working for a videogaming company in San Francisco. If they'd drug tested us they would have had to fire 2/3rds of the company.


And there it is.  That social cachet of getting away with something that makes me smarter than you.
 
2014-09-01 03:47:20 AM  
America doesn't see it's leaders as the most honest, the least hypocritical, the brightest, the most capable or creative or hard working.  America's heroes are the most successful chiselers, the wealthiest by any means, the most well armed, the most persuasive.  The cat who gets the last cookie off the plate before there's no more cookie dough.  The ones who game the very system we purport to bemoan the demise of.  The slicksters.  The hustlers.  The guys who get the safe out the back door without being caught.  And you know what happens when you sh*t too close to the buffet for long enough.  All the sudden the food stinks.  The wolf you feed, people.  The wolf you feed.
 
2014-09-01 03:56:27 AM  
fusillade762:
Bonus: I didn't rob, beat, rape or kill anyone, didn't miss any work because of it and I still have all my teeth. And when I left that city I simply stopped doing it. Not saying everyone should try it, but the widespread demonization of meth users irks me a bit. We're not all rapacious monsters with no impulse control.

99% of the meth users I've encountered or known personally are not like you. It turns people into shiatheads. 99% of the time, these methheads don't know they're being shiatheads until someone hits them with a clue-by-four (or a real 2x4). I know far too many recovering meth addicts, and most end up sleeping in gutters for awhile during the relapse/recovery cycle until they figure out it's not people being mean to them, it's the drug and themselves.

Half these news stories of people doing weird things are because those people are on drugs, and when the drug is revealed, it's usually meth. Who the hell thinks it's a good idea to cook meth in a church basement? Burn your car for warmth? Stack 2 tons of lumber on a compact car? Steal live copper from a utility pole?

Even in the more "mild" cases of meth, it always turns the users into jittery, jabbering idiots. They think they're awesome, but they're actually screwing things up, or simply not being helpful. But *they* think they're god's gift. And they believe everything was/is great with meth, and end up burning (hopefully only figuratively) everyone they know as they quit, blame others, relapse, jailed/hospitalized/homeless, repeat.

Meth is a plague on humanity.

I'm happy you've quit.
 
2014-09-01 04:10:49 AM  
Waveland Presbyterian Church? No wonder it was so easy to spot the Methodists among them.
 
2014-09-01 04:57:14 AM  
t1.gstatic.com

I dooo not agree.
 
2014-09-01 09:13:33 AM  
There seems to be a self I destructive urge in many people which when combined with addiction turns into a long-form suicide.

I have an addictive personality but knew what happened with alcoholism in the family. So I merely knock off a few years of my life with the abuse of chocolate.

Also play countless hours of video games ...
 
2014-09-01 09:44:55 AM  

Wake Up Sheeple: fusillade762:
Bonus: I didn't rob, beat, rape or kill anyone, didn't miss any work because of it and I still have all my teeth. And when I left that city I simply stopped doing it. Not saying everyone should try it, but the widespread demonization of meth users irks me a bit. We're not all rapacious monsters with no impulse control.

99% of the meth users I've encountered or known personally are not like you. It turns people into shiatheads. 99% of the time, these methheads don't know they're being shiatheads until someone hits them with a clue-by-four (or a real 2x4). I know far too many recovering meth addicts, and most end up sleeping in gutters for awhile during the relapse/recovery cycle until they figure out it's not people being mean to them, it's the drug and themselves.

Half these news stories of people doing weird things are because those people are on drugs, and when the drug is revealed, it's usually meth. Who the hell thinks it's a good idea to cook meth in a church basement? Burn your car for warmth? Stack 2 tons of lumber on a compact car? Steal live copper from a utility pole?

Even in the more "mild" cases of meth, it always turns the users into jittery, jabbering idiots. They think they're awesome, but they're actually screwing things up, or simply not being helpful. But *they* think they're god's gift. And they believe everything was/is great with meth, and end up burning (hopefully only figuratively) everyone they know as they quit, blame others, relapse, jailed/hospitalized/homeless, repeat.

Meth is a plague on humanity.

I'm happy you've quit.


there are some good people that are tweakers out there, they're just rare, man.
 
2014-09-01 09:54:27 AM  
Jedi went up the ventilation shaft.
 
2014-09-01 11:04:01 AM  
Mrs. Cake
 
2014-09-01 12:39:38 PM  
www.sj-r.com

Man, that's a hard 26. The kid don't look too good neither.
 
2014-09-01 01:21:25 PM  

fusillade762: bunner: The Angry Hand of God: bunner: I don't want to be a wet blanket, but is all this hard drug bullsh*t, meth, crack, horse, actually making anybody happy and beautiful?

No, it is an escape from a cruel reality into a crueler life of drug addiction. Nobody is doing these drugs to be happy and beautiful. No one drinks because they think that is how it is. I am glad we could have this talk.

Does dope take the edge off the need to try and palm off dime store condescension as insight?  Call me when the war on drugs is waged against the cheap, sh*tty, useless things we weave into the fabric of our society that makes people want to use them.

When I was doing crystal lo many years ago I did it because it was fun. Besides making me feel good it gave me the energy to go out after a long day of work and strike up conversations with people I might not have otherwise. Met a lot of new people and had a very active social life. It also helped because I was in a new city where I hardly knew anyone.

Bonus: I didn't rob, beat, rape or kill anyone, didn't miss any work because of it and I still have all my teeth. And when I left that city I simply stopped doing it. Not saying everyone should try it, but the widespread demonization of meth users irks me a bit. We're not all rapacious monsters with no impulse control.


That's how successful people play.
 
2014-09-01 05:00:14 PM  

bunner: fusillade762: Heh. At the time I was working for a videogaming company in San Francisco. If they'd drug tested us they would have had to fire 2/3rds of the company.

And there it is.  That social cachet of getting away with something that makes me smarter than you.


Huh?
 
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