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(Huffington Post)   Rick Perry thinks that taxpayers should pick up the tab for his legal defense, but since he's SUCH A NICE GUY, he'll pay for it himself instead   (huffingtonpost.com ) divider line
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2014-08-30 08:08:48 PM  
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2014-08-30 08:19:33 PM  
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2014-08-30 09:28:05 PM  
Christ, what an asshole.
 
2014-08-30 09:36:37 PM  
I'm pretty sure that, even if my employer made me break the law in the performance of my job function, and I were to be indicted for it, they wouldn't pay my legal fees for me.  So, Rick, you can pay your own.
 
2014-08-31 12:11:47 AM  
What a piece of shiat
 
2014-08-31 01:47:18 AM  
Did taxpayers pay the DA's DUI fine or legal fees?
 
2014-08-31 01:49:53 AM  
So some people complained  that Perry shouldn't be using tax dollars to defend himself on his recent abuse of authority indictment thingy so his answer is...

 No probs, Brah, I'll just dip into my campaign coffers!

Cos that's apparently legal?
 
2014-08-31 01:52:57 AM  

quatchi: No probs, Brah, I'll just dip into my campaign coffers! Cos that's apparently legal?


I'm not sure if it's legal, but I'd much rather see that than taxpayers paying the bill. It would be funny if it's illegal and a grand jury indicted him for it. Well, to me at least.
 
2014-08-31 01:54:10 AM  

Yaw String: [Link][i65.photobucket.com image 605x910]


Damn you. I've been saving that photo, waiting for the perfect opportunity to post it, and you stole my thunder.
 
2014-08-31 01:55:28 AM  
For all defendants, I think that if you're prosecuted and are acquitted, the government should reimburse you for your defense if you paid for it yourself. "Loser pays" for the criminal side of the law. A criminal defense can destroy you financially even if you're innocent.
 
2014-08-31 01:57:31 AM  

The Why Not Guy: quatchi: No probs, Brah, I'll just dip into my campaign coffers! Cos that's apparently legal?

I'm not sure if it's legal, but I'd much rather see that than taxpayers paying the bill. It would be funny if it's illegal and a grand jury indicted him for it. Well, to me at least.


Oh, I quite agree but I still think it would best if Perry ended up paying it out of his own pocket.

Obviously it would never come to that, his big money backers would throw him a fundraiser to pay his legal bills a'la Scooter Libby if he couldn't divert his campaign cash.
 
2014-08-31 02:00:22 AM  

jjorsett: For all defendants, I think that if you're prosecuted and are acquitted, the government should reimburse you for your defense if you paid for it yourself. "Loser pays" for the criminal side of the law.


Sounds like we owe O.J. Simpson one hell of a check, by your standards. Hopefully he won't charge us interest.
 
2014-08-31 02:02:26 AM  
Standing next to Perry at one point and scoffing at the idea that the governor got carried away with power was former Republican Texas House Speaker Tom Craddick - who was ousted from the powerful job in 2009 following a dramatic, bipartisan mutiny in which Craddick refused to relinquish control of the gavel in an hourslong standoff on the House floor. At one point during the rebellion, Craddick's parliamentarians abruptly resigned.

These people are nothing but children
 
2014-08-31 02:03:21 AM  

The Why Not Guy: quatchi: No probs, Brah, I'll just dip into my campaign coffers! Cos that's apparently legal?

I'm not sure if it's legal, but I'd much rather see that than taxpayers paying the bill. It would be funny if it's illegal and a grand jury indicted him for it. Well, to me at least.


It's legal (unless there's maybe a state law against it).

When we busybodies in Alaska got the FBI involved with the Veco corruption investigation (AKA Corrupt Bastards Club), Congressman Don Young had done enough slumming around with Veco to end up on the FBI radar.

He ended up spending around a quarter million in campaign funds to defend himself. We were all surprised, but that's when we learned it was legal to do that.
 
2014-08-31 02:05:24 AM  

jjorsett: For all defendants, I think that if you're prosecuted and are acquitted, the government should reimburse you for your defense if you paid for it yourself. "Loser pays" for the criminal side of the law. A criminal defense can destroy you financially even if you're innocent.


and in other news, jjorsett wants the US government to give OJ Simpson six million dollars.
 
2014-08-31 02:06:15 AM  
What's there left to be said about Rick Perry that Fark's many apologists haven't derped already?

Also, both sides are the same.
 
2014-08-31 02:08:49 AM  

whidbey: What's there left to be said about Rick Perry that Fark's many apologists haven't derped already?

Also, both sides are the same.


I think I saw him on TV today, disparaging President Obama's foreign policy, and asking for real leadership.

Considering it was Rick Perry saying it, I found it absurd.
 
2014-08-31 02:09:21 AM  

log_jammin: Standing next to Perry at one point and scoffing at the idea that the governor got carried away with power was former Republican Texas House Speaker Tom Craddick - who was ousted from the powerful job in 2009 following a dramatic, bipartisan mutiny in which Craddick refused to relinquish control of the gavel in an hourslong standoff on the House floor. At one point during the rebellion, Craddick's parliamentarians abruptly resigned.

These people are nothing but children


Dangerous children to execute innocent people.
 
2014-08-31 02:12:53 AM  
Anyone else think it's weird for the article to spend its closing paragraph mocking Rick Perry for wearing glasses and talking about how much they cost?

Yes, it's totally normal on Fark to do that - "hey get a load of that guy, wearing glasses to make himself look smarter, I bet when he looks in a mirror he calls himself foureyes and then punches his reflection!", or "wow, what kind of rich asshole drops $500 on a pair of non-corrective glasses for image and then wants taxpayers to pay his legal expenses?", but it's kind of a non sequitur in a professional news article.
 
2014-08-31 02:13:33 AM  
But isn't his salary paid by tax payers anyways?
 
2014-08-31 02:16:43 AM  

The Why Not Guy: jjorsett: For all defendants, I think that if you're prosecuted and are acquitted, the government should reimburse you for your defense if you paid for it yourself. "Loser pays" for the criminal side of the law.

Sounds like we owe O.J. Simpson one hell of a check, by your standards. Hopefully he won't charge us interest.


If we owe OJ money that's a bargain I'm willing to make, that the crushing power of the State can't be used to bankrupt you regardless of your guilt or innocence. I notice that you left off that part of my post that you quoted.
 
2014-08-31 02:18:16 AM  
He's not paying himself, he's using campaign money, just like Cuomo in New York.
 
2014-08-31 02:18:41 AM  

DemonEater: Anyone else think it's weird for the article to spend its closing paragraph mocking Rick Perry for wearing glasses and talking about how much they cost?

Yes, it's totally normal on Fark to do that - "hey get a load of that guy, wearing glasses to make himself look smarter, I bet when he looks in a mirror he calls himself foureyes and then punches his reflection!", or "wow, what kind of rich asshole drops $500 on a pair of non-corrective glasses for image and then wants taxpayers to pay his legal expenses?", but it's kind of a non sequitur in a professional news article.


Um. Professional... News... Uh.

Currently most popular on HuffPo:

-- Miley Cyrus Wears the World's Least Wearable Bathing Suit on V Magazine.

-- Rihanna's Vacation Photos Will Make You Jealous

-- Lena Dunham Shares an 'I Woke You Up Like This' Selfie

It goes downhill from there.
 
2014-08-31 02:25:19 AM  

jjorsett: If we owe OJ money that's a bargain I'm willing to make.


Wow, you must REALLY want Rick Perry to keep his money if you're willing to hypothetically include a ni... African-American.
 
2014-08-31 02:25:57 AM  

log_jammin: jjorsett: For all defendants, I think that if you're prosecuted and are acquitted, the government should reimburse you for your defense if you paid for it yourself. "Loser pays" for the criminal side of the law. A criminal defense can destroy you financially even if you're innocent.

and in other news, jjorsett wants the US government to give OJ Simpson six million dollars.


Actually, it would be the state of California or city of Los Angeles, but that's exactly right: if you prosecute and lose, the government should be on the hook for the costs of forcing you to defend yourself. Not only would it level the playing field, power-wise, but deter prosecutions of weak cases. We already pay for poor defendants by giving them government lawyers, and this would be a logical and just extension of that.
 
2014-08-31 02:28:46 AM  
That is the difference between the office of Governor being sued and the individual Rick Perry being indicted.

If the state government were suing the governor's office then certainly tax money would be used in the defense.  But the Governor's office didn't commit a crime, Rick Perry did.
 
2014-08-31 02:29:57 AM  
FTFA: opted to use campaign funds

That's an interesting definition of paying for it himself.
 
2014-08-31 02:31:30 AM  

The Why Not Guy: jjorsett: If we owe OJ money that's a bargain I'm willing to make.

Wow, you must REALLY want Rick Perry to keep his money if you're willing to hypothetically include a ni... African-American.


Anyone who doesn't toe the liberal line must automatically be a racist, huh? You must have entire platoons of straw men in your head.
 
2014-08-31 02:34:21 AM  

jjorsett: Anyone who doesn't toe the liberal line must automatically be a racist, huh? You must have entire platoons of straw men in your head.


Oh please. You act like we've never seen your thread-shiats before.
 
2014-08-31 02:36:53 AM  

jjorsett: log_jammin: jjorsett: For all defendants, I think that if you're prosecuted and are acquitted, the government should reimburse you for your defense if you paid for it yourself. "Loser pays" for the criminal side of the law. A criminal defense can destroy you financially even if you're innocent.

and in other news, jjorsett wants the US government to give OJ Simpson six million dollars.

Actually, it would be the state of California or city of Los Angeles, but that's exactly right: if you prosecute and lose, the government should be on the hook for the costs of forcing you to defend yourself. Not only would it level the playing field, power-wise, but deter prosecutions of weak cases. We already pay for poor defendants by giving them government lawyers, and this would be a logical and just extension of that.


Should the state also reimburse OJ the "consulting" fee he paid Robert Kardasian (sp?) for disposal services rendered?
 
2014-08-31 02:38:07 AM  

Emposter: FTFA: opted to use campaign funds

That's an interesting definition of paying for it himself.


Same one being used by Andrew Cuomo in paying for a defense in the federal criminal probe against him.
 
2014-08-31 02:40:00 AM  

The Why Not Guy: jjorsett: Anyone who doesn't toe the liberal line must automatically be a racist, huh? You must have entire platoons of straw men in your head.

Oh please. You act like we've never seen your thread-shiats before.


Well good, then you can quote the occasions where I've said anything remotely racist.
 
2014-08-31 02:43:33 AM  
He should get a public defender.
 
2014-08-31 02:43:53 AM  

Ambivalence: That is the difference between the office of Governor being sued and the individual Rick Perry being indicted.

If the state government were suing the governor's office then certainly tax money would be used in the defense.  But the Governor's office didn't commit a crime, Rick Perry did.


You, me, and nine other Farkers, mostly lawyers, will understand that.

I've noticed it's really difficult to explain such nuances around here.

I'm very proud of you right now. Very proud.
 
2014-08-31 02:53:56 AM  

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Good Lord! It's Bill Nye's mentally deficient cousin!
 
2014-08-31 02:54:03 AM  

question_dj: I'm pretty sure that, even if my employer made me break the law in the performance of my job function, and I were to be indicted for it, they wouldn't pay my legal fees for me.  So, Rick, you can pay your own.


I'm pretty sure your employer sucks, then.
 
2014-08-31 02:55:31 AM  
Who is his PR person? They must have pulled all their own hair out by now.

There are so many ways to spin this, many of them good, but he picked a way of phrasing it that both pisses people off and costs him money.
 
2014-08-31 03:00:37 AM  

jjorsett: Actually, it would be the state of California or city of Los Angeles, but that's exactly right: if you prosecute and lose, the government should be on the hook for the costs of forcing you to defend yourself. Not only would it level the playing field, power-wise, but deter prosecutions of weak cases. We already pay for poor defendants by giving them government lawyers, and this would be a logical and just extension of that.


That's really awesome...if you're rich.

so the OJs of the world get to go out and hire the best legal team they can, knowing they will get off and the government will foot the bill, meanwhile joe pot head will just take the plea deal(something like 95% of convictions are plea bargains and they never go to court) that his over worked public defender says to take.
 
2014-08-31 03:01:29 AM  
I'm a bit shocked he hasn't already gone Full Palin and started a "Rick Perry Stick-It-To-The-Libs Patriot Freedom Jesus F-150 Crying Eagle Defense Because Freedom Fund"
 
2014-08-31 03:02:41 AM  

opiumpoopy: question_dj: I'm pretty sure that, even if my employer made me break the law in the performance of my job function, and I were to be indicted for it, they wouldn't pay my legal fees for me.  So, Rick, you can pay your own.

I'm pretty sure your employer sucks, then.


There have been cases where the feds have threatened companies with prosecution themselves if the company funded the defense of employees whom the feds were after. Most folded under the pressure and refused to pay for the defense. IIRC, there was a court case where a judge ruled this tactic illegal.
 
2014-08-31 03:05:38 AM  

fusillade762: He should get a public defender.


Came here to say this.

I have no problem with taxpayer money going to fund his legal defense, so long as he gets an overworked rookie from the Austin Public Defender's office making $34,000 a year who graduated 468th in his class, passed the bar on his second try, and is juggling 20 other cases.

After all, that's the kind of lawyer he considered "adequate" legal defense when he signed death warrants. I mean, we're only talking a few years in prison here, it's not like it's a capital case. Why should he get a better attorney than they did, when his life isn't even on the line?
 
2014-08-31 03:12:31 AM  

log_jammin: jjorsett: Actually, it would be the state of California or city of Los Angeles, but that's exactly right: if you prosecute and lose, the government should be on the hook for the costs of forcing you to defend yourself. Not only would it level the playing field, power-wise, but deter prosecutions of weak cases. We already pay for poor defendants by giving them government lawyers, and this would be a logical and just extension of that.

That's really awesome...if you're rich.

so the OJs of the world get to go out and hire the best legal team they can, knowing they will get off and the government will foot the bill, meanwhile joe pot head will just take the plea deal(something like 95% of convictions are plea bargains and they never go to court) that his over worked public defender says to take.


If Joe Pot Head had a good case for his innocence there would be private defense lawyers who'd take his defense on contingency, knowing that if they won they'd get their payment from the government, so he'd have a better defense than from the government schlub. If he's got a bad case then he'd better take the schlub or plan on paying for his defense from his own pocket. Overall its still a better system than we have now where a non-rich defendant is screwed period.
 
2014-08-31 03:18:30 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: I'm a bit shocked he hasn't already gone Full Palin and started a "Rick Perry Stick-It-To-The-Libs Patriot Freedom Jesus F-150 Crying Eagle Defense Because Freedom Fund"


If he had gone Full Palin he would have resigned by now.
 
2014-08-31 03:18:43 AM  

jjorsett: If Joe Pot Head had a good case for his innocence there would be private defense lawyers who'd take his defense on contingency, knowing that if they won they'd get their payment from the government, so he'd have a better defense than from the government schlub. If he's got a bad case then he'd better take the schlub or plan on paying for his defense from his own pocket. Overall its still a better system than we have now where a non-rich defendant is screwed period.


when do the unicorns arrive to take the defendant to court?
 
2014-08-31 03:29:27 AM  

jjorsett: If Joe Pot Head had a good case for his innocence there would be private defense lawyers who'd take his defense on contingency, knowing that if they won they'd get their payment from the government, so he'd have a better defense than from the government schlub. If he's got a bad case then he'd better take the schlub or plan on paying for his defense from his own pocket. Overall its still a better system than we have now where a non-rich defendant is screwed period.


Hell, in our current system, being rich is apparently a defense in and of itself.  "Oh yeah, affluenza, I got that, totally, let me off"  "k"
 
2014-08-31 03:32:46 AM  

jjorsett: For all defendants, I think that if you're prosecuted and are acquitted, the government should reimburse you for your defense if you paid for it yourself. "Loser pays" for the criminal side of the law. A criminal defense can destroy you financially even if you're innocent.


Yeah, that won't give an even larger advantage to the wealthy, who already get punished far less severely than the unwashed masses. I could get behind reimbursing them what it would have cost to use a public defender, but anything beyond that is on them. That's the cost of your wealthy privilege; sometimes getting to walk when your lessers would have eaten shiat is going to consume some of your fortune.
 
2014-08-31 03:39:40 AM  

Moonfisher: That's the cost of your wealthy privilege; sometimes getting to walk when your lessers would have eaten shiat is going to consume some of your fortune.


Ann Romney wants to know why the poors just can't use their campaign funds to hire better lawyers.
 
2014-08-31 04:33:20 AM  
I enjoyed the use of the word 'grouse' in the article. Tends to trend toward rare in active use.

/fark Perry.
 
2014-08-31 05:33:20 AM  

DemonEater: Anyone else think it's weird for the article to spend its closing paragraph mocking Rick Perry for wearing glasses and talking about how much they cost?

Yes, it's totally normal on Fark to do that - "hey get a load of that guy, wearing glasses to make himself look smarter, I bet when he looks in a mirror he calls himself foureyes and then punches his reflection!", or "wow, what kind of rich asshole drops $500 on a pair of non-corrective glasses for image and then wants taxpayers to pay his legal expenses?", but it's kind of a non sequitur in a professional news article.


During Tuesday's event, Perry wore the same glasses he's worn for about a year as part of his effort to rehabilitate his image following a disastrous 2012 presidential bid. Afterward, he showed them to The Associated Press.

I would imagine mentioning the glasses is news because Perry tried to make them news.
 
2014-08-31 05:34:37 AM  
Ummm, subby?  Your reading comprehension sucks.

Your headline: he'll pay for it himself instead
The article: opted to use campaign funds

Not one cent of this is coming out of Rick's pockets.
 
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