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(KCRG)   After the truth of its origins were exposed in a recent article, Templeton Rye will now disclose the fact that it's distilled in Indiana, not Iowa, on its label. Let's see if other "craft" whiskey producers follow   (kcrg.com) divider line 57
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2014-08-30 09:14:58 AM  
kcweb.cdr.dc.publicus.com

that's some fine-looking rye there, folks. 0_o
 
2014-08-30 09:23:59 AM  

FlashHarry: [kcweb.cdr.dc.publicus.com image 600x404]

that's some fine-looking rye there, folks. 0_o


My bar won't even SELL me whiskey by the pint :(
 
2014-08-30 09:57:30 AM  

Relatively Obscure: FlashHarry: [kcweb.cdr.dc.publicus.com image 600x404]

that's some fine-looking rye there, folks. 0_o

My bar won't even SELL me whiskey by the pint :(


You have to go to the source.

i.ytimg.com
Want some rye? Course ya do!
 
2014-08-30 10:05:21 AM  
Isn't every rye in the US distilled at the same plant in Lawrenceburg?  Sure seems that way.

Anyways, bow before your rye overlord.  If you don't have access to it, you're outside of god's country.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-08-30 10:09:56 AM  

unyon: Isn't every rye in the US distilled at the same plant in Lawrenceburg?  Sure seems that way.

Anyways, bow before your rye overlord.  If you don't have access to it, you're outside of god's country.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 337x767]


never heard of it, though i do know that canada produces a lot of top-shelf rye.

i'm more of a scotch man myself.
 
2014-08-30 10:38:19 AM  
FlashHarry:
never heard of it, though i do know that canada produces a lot of top-shelf rye.

i'm more of a scotch man myself.


It's a proper rye.  Starts like lighter fluid, ends like a chainsaw. And that's a feature.
 
2014-08-30 12:44:00 PM  

unyon: Isn't every rye in the US distilled at the same plant in Lawrenceburg?  Sure seems that way.

Anyways, bow before your rye overlord.  If you don't have access to it, you're outside of god's country.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 337x767]


Mr. Lahey's rye of choice.
 
2014-08-30 12:44:09 PM  

unyon: FlashHarry:
never heard of it, though i do know that canada produces a lot of top-shelf rye.

i'm more of a scotch man myself.

It's a proper rye.  Starts like lighter fluid, ends like a chainsaw. And that's a feature.


Templeton is some nasty shiat, like it finishes cooking the mash in your innards.

Had to pour out 2/3 of a bottle and switch to beer for weeks just to clear all the gas out of the pipes.
 
2014-08-30 12:48:31 PM  
Alberta Premium is one of the few "ryes" that's actually almost all rye, rather than tons of corn with some rye for flavor.

I'm a Forty Creek man, myself.
 
2014-08-30 12:48:46 PM  
They've done a bangup job of building up their myth, too, what with this (great) book
wolflit.com
 
2014-08-30 12:48:48 PM  

TheOther: unyon: FlashHarry:
never heard of it, though i do know that canada produces a lot of top-shelf rye.

i'm more of a scotch man myself.

It's a proper rye.  Starts like lighter fluid, ends like a chainsaw. And that's a feature.

Templeton is some nasty shiat, like it finishes cooking the mash in your innards.

Had to pour out 2/3 of a bottle and switch to beer for weeks just to clear all the gas out of the pipes.


Rye is harsh. I've always preferred a whisky that doesn't have a finish like a dumpster fire... but maybe that's just me. My personal go-to for cost versus taste is Elijah 12.
 
2014-08-30 12:48:55 PM  

Plastic Trash Vortex: unyon: Isn't every rye in the US distilled at the same plant in Lawrenceburg?  Sure seems that way.

Anyways, bow before your rye overlord.  If you don't have access to it, you're outside of god's country.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 337x767]

Mr. Lahey's rye of choice.


and we all know what discriminating taste he had.

spoiler alert: he ended up with randy.
 
2014-08-30 12:56:36 PM  

unyon: Isn't every rye in the US distilled at the same plant in Lawrenceburg?  Sure seems that way.


Lots of the biggest brands, like Templeton and Bulleit, come from Indiana but there are plenty that don't.
 
2014-08-30 12:57:02 PM  

ElLoco: TheOther: unyon: FlashHarry:
never heard of it, though i do know that canada produces a lot of top-shelf rye.

i'm more of a scotch man myself.

It's a proper rye.  Starts like lighter fluid, ends like a chainsaw. And that's a feature.

Templeton is some nasty shiat, like it finishes cooking the mash in your innards.

Had to pour out 2/3 of a bottle and switch to beer for weeks just to clear all the gas out of the pipes.

Rye is harsh. I've always preferred a whisky that doesn't have a finish like a dumpster fire... but maybe that's just me. My personal go-to for cost versus taste is Elijah 12.


I had always liked rye, but it had been a while and daaaaam...
 
2014-08-30 01:03:05 PM  
www.drinkupny.com
FTW
 
2014-08-30 01:04:19 PM  
Just do it like the do in Scotland and call them what they are independent bottlers. If you don't distill the spirit it should be made clear on the label.
 
2014-08-30 01:06:23 PM  
If i can't pronounce overholt then give two more before the door.
 
2014-08-30 01:06:50 PM  
Bulleit Rye best bang for the buck around here
 
2014-08-30 01:09:22 PM  

FlashHarry: [kcweb.cdr.dc.publicus.com image 600x404]

that's some fine-looking rye there, folks. 0_o


It comes in PINTS? I'm getting one!
www.brewtastic.com
 
2014-08-30 01:10:21 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: Bulleit Rye best bang for the buck around here


And it is made at the exact same place as Templeton.
 
2014-08-30 01:13:34 PM  
pacificonlinespirits.com

True nectar of the Gods.  Damned shame that the Hipsters discovered it and I can't find it any longer.
 
2014-08-30 01:17:26 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: Bulleit Rye best bang for the buck around her


I'm enjoying some of that right now, so I'm getting a kick. And a buzz.
 
2014-08-30 01:19:44 PM  
Smooth but not boring, very good bang for the buck.www.lcbo.com
 
2014-08-30 01:27:52 PM  

Ring of Fire: Just do it like the do in Scotland and call them what they are independent bottlers. If you don't distill the spirit it should be made clear on the label.


While I agree with this, distilling is probably the least important part of the whole process, even less so if the bottler is providing the ingredients and instructions on how to distill it.
 
2014-08-30 01:28:04 PM  
I assume we are talking about the Segram's plant just west of Cincinnati in Lawrenceburg, IN?

My understanding was, that in some cases at least, LDI ships out the un aged white liquor and these "craft" whiskys age  it elsewhere, or something.

better link:  http://whiskyadvocate.com/whisky/2013/08/09/5-things-you-dont-know-ab o ut-mgpi-americas-most-misunderstood-distillery/

I have no clue if this is written by a shill.
 
2014-08-30 01:28:14 PM  

The Goddamn Batman: thismomentinblackhistory: Bulleit Rye best bang for the buck around her

I'm enjoying some of that right now, so I'm getting a kick. And a buzz.


Thirded. I'll have some later tonight, after home improvements are fine. The lady of the house won't let me drink anything stronger than beer if I'm using power tools.
 
2014-08-30 01:31:13 PM  

redmid17: While I agree with this, distilling is probably the least important part of the whole process, even less so if the bottler is providing the ingredients and instructions on how to distill it.


This is also like a local meat processor.  They make the hoagie patties for most pizza joints for quite a ways away, but produce them according to differing recipes provided by the various restaurants.
 
2014-08-30 01:33:07 PM  
 
2014-08-30 01:38:26 PM  
That's why I drink miller light and bankers club vodka. Alcohol gets you drunk and anything else is besides the point and easily forged.
 
2014-08-30 01:43:17 PM  

TheOther: unyon: FlashHarry:
never heard of it, though i do know that canada produces a lot of top-shelf rye.

i'm more of a scotch man myself.

It's a proper rye.  Starts like lighter fluid, ends like a chainsaw. And that's a feature.

Templeton is some nasty shiat, like it finishes cooking the mash in your innards.

Had to pour out 2/3 of a bottle and switch to beer for weeks just to clear all the gas out of the pipes.


i759.photobucket.com
 
2014-08-30 01:44:47 PM  

unyon: Isn't every rye in the US distilled at the same plant in Lawrenceburg?  Sure seems that way.

Anyways, bow before your rye overlord.  If you don't have access to it, you're outside of god's country.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 337x767]


We can just buy WhistlePig instead.  It's from the same source
 
2014-08-30 01:45:04 PM  

Oztemprom: redmid17: While I agree with this, distilling is probably the least important part of the whole process, even less so if the bottler is providing the ingredients and instructions on how to distill it.

This is also like a local meat processor.  They make the hoagie patties for most pizza joints for quite a ways away, but produce them according to differing recipes provided by the various restaurants.


What is this?
 
2014-08-30 01:47:12 PM  

redmid17: Ring of Fire: Just do it like the do in Scotland and call them what they are independent bottlers. If you don't distill the spirit it should be made clear on the label.

While I agree with this, distilling is probably the least important part of the whole process, even less so if the bottler is providing the ingredients and instructions on how to distill it.


I see what your saying and I agree, but in many cases these guys are just using the same rye as everyone else.  Templeton has claimed that they use some fancy prohibition recipe, but that's a lie.  A flat out lie.  They use a standard MGPI 95% rye mash bill, which is also most likely the same mash bill that Bulleit uses for their rye.
 
2014-08-30 01:52:22 PM  

Ring of Fire: redmid17: Ring of Fire: Just do it like the do in Scotland and call them what they are independent bottlers. If you don't distill the spirit it should be made clear on the label.

While I agree with this, distilling is probably the least important part of the whole process, even less so if the bottler is providing the ingredients and instructions on how to distill it.

I see what your saying and I agree, but in many cases these guys are just using the same rye as everyone else.  Templeton has claimed that they use some fancy prohibition recipe, but that's a lie.  A flat out lie.  They use a standard MGPI 95% rye mash bill, which is also most likely the same mash bill that Bulleit uses for their rye.


Oh I don't care about rye. I don't drink it. They distill bourbon for a bunch of brands. They do a pretty good job of it too.
 
2014-08-30 02:00:33 PM  

redmid17: Ring of Fire: redmid17: Ring of Fire: Just do it like the do in Scotland and call them what they are independent bottlers. If you don't distill the spirit it should be made clear on the label.

While I agree with this, distilling is probably the least important part of the whole process, even less so if the bottler is providing the ingredients and instructions on how to distill it.

I see what your saying and I agree, but in many cases these guys are just using the same rye as everyone else.  Templeton has claimed that they use some fancy prohibition recipe, but that's a lie.  A flat out lie.  They use a standard MGPI 95% rye mash bill, which is also most likely the same mash bill that Bulleit uses for their rye.

Oh I don't care about rye. I don't drink it. They distill bourbon for a bunch of brands. They do a pretty good job of it too.


I'm not saying it's not good (it probably lookalike that but that's my fault) I'm just saying companies should be required to say where it was distilled.
 
2014-08-30 02:00:45 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-08-30 02:02:02 PM  

unyon: Isn't every rye in the US distilled at the same plant in Lawrenceburg?  Sure seems that way.


Not quite.

Mostly new marketing brands.  Older marketing brands like Michter's don't seem to fit the profile.

I'm pretty sure that big-brand distilleries make their own ryes (Beam/Overholt and Wild Turkey/Russel's for example),

There are also plenty of small distillers who actually make rye: Anchor, Corsair, Koval off the top of my head.
 
2014-08-30 02:05:59 PM  

The Goddamn Batman: [www.drinkupny.com image 170x500]
FTW


Even better in a Sazerac.
 
2014-08-30 02:09:04 PM  
I was not aware that either state had a reputation for rye. I guess Indiana and Iowa need something to hang their hat on. All I know is that my bourbon damn well better come from Kentucky.
 
2014-08-30 02:23:40 PM  

I Am The Bishop Of East Anglia: The Goddamn Batman: [www.drinkupny.com image 170x500]
FTW

Even better in a Sazerac.


You, I like.
 
2014-08-30 02:25:53 PM  

Ring of Fire: redmid17: Ring of Fire: redmid17: Ring of Fire: Just do it like the do in Scotland and call them what they are independent bottlers. If you don't distill the spirit it should be made clear on the label.

While I agree with this, distilling is probably the least important part of the whole process, even less so if the bottler is providing the ingredients and instructions on how to distill it.

I see what your saying and I agree, but in many cases these guys are just using the same rye as everyone else.  Templeton has claimed that they use some fancy prohibition recipe, but that's a lie.  A flat out lie.  They use a standard MGPI 95% rye mash bill, which is also most likely the same mash bill that Bulleit uses for their rye.

Oh I don't care about rye. I don't drink it. They distill bourbon for a bunch of brands. They do a pretty good job of it too.

I'm not saying it's not good (it probably lookalike that but that's my fault) I'm just saying companies should be required to say where it was distilled.


Which I already agreed with...in my Weeners.
 
2014-08-30 02:30:18 PM  

fnordfocus: unyon: Isn't every rye in the US distilled at the same plant in Lawrenceburg?  Sure seems that way.

Not quite.

Mostly new marketing brands.  Older marketing brands like Michter's don't seem to fit the profile.

I'm pretty sure that big-brand distilleries make their own ryes (Beam/Overholt and Wild Turkey/Russel's for example),

There are also plenty of small distillers who actually make rye: Anchor, Corsair, Koval off the top of my head.


Ryemageddon is a DAMN fine rye. I love being about 3 minutes from their distillery.
 
2014-08-30 02:30:28 PM  

redmid17: Ring of Fire: redmid17: Ring of Fire: redmid17: Ring of Fire: Just do it like the do in Scotland and call them what they are independent bottlers. If you don't distill the spirit it should be made clear on the label.

While I agree with this, distilling is probably the least important part of the whole process, even less so if the bottler is providing the ingredients and instructions on how to distill it.

I see what your saying and I agree, but in many cases these guys are just using the same rye as everyone else.  Templeton has claimed that they use some fancy prohibition recipe, but that's a lie.  A flat out lie.  They use a standard MGPI 95% rye mash bill, which is also most likely the same mash bill that Bulleit uses for their rye.

Oh I don't care about rye. I don't drink it. They distill bourbon for a bunch of brands. They do a pretty good job of it too.

I'm not saying it's not good (it probably lookalike that but that's my fault) I'm just saying companies should be required to say where it was distilled.

Which I already agreed with...in my Weeners.



From the dawn of history, men have gotten into the most trouble when they agreed in their Weeners.
 
2014-08-30 03:05:56 PM  

Snarfangel: redmid17: Ring of Fire: redmid17: Ring of Fire: redmid17: Ring of Fire: If you don't distill the spirit it should be made clear on the label.

While I agree with this

I see what your saying and I agree,

Oh I don't care about rye. I don't drink it.

I'm not saying it's not good

Which I already agreed with...in my Weeners.


From the dawn of history, men have gotten into the most trouble when they agreed in their Weeners.


True, I totally agree with myself

/75% of the time, all the time
 
2014-08-30 03:16:46 PM  
I'm not a drinker, but does it matter what state the stuff is bottled in, as long as it's good? And if it's no good, it wouldn't matter if it came from the depths of darkest Kentucky.
 
2014-08-30 03:20:24 PM  

Gyrfalcon: I'm not a drinker, but does it matter what state the stuff is bottled in, as long as it's good? And if it's no good, it wouldn't matter if it came from the depths of darkest Kentucky.


Government has a bunch of labeling rules for alcohol.

I don't know about other states but, in Texas, consumers will preferentially buy products with a "Made in Texas" logo so it would be a major abuse of trust if not fraud.
 
2014-08-30 03:43:05 PM  
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2014-08-30 03:51:19 PM  
Wow, my wife and I visited the bottling plant in Templeton about a year ago while visiting the in-laws. The Indiana thing was not a secret at all, but they didn't really talk about it either.

That said, I took some really cool photos of the spent oak barrels and the tiny bottling room. It's about the smallest production facility I've ever seen for this kind of operation. Little old farm grandmas putting the bottle labels on by hand was unexpected, I would have thought that part was automated.
 
2014-08-30 04:10:05 PM  
Whatever, I still like it.
 
2014-08-30 04:35:01 PM  
Indiana, not Iowa.

One "fly-over" state to another.  STF is the big diff?
 
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