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(Boston.com)   California leads the way on one of the most important issues of our time becoming the first state to institute a plastic bag ban   (boston.com ) divider line
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2014-08-30 11:24:58 AM  
good
 
2014-08-30 12:10:21 PM  
Im okay with this. We already have a ban on them in L.A. Just got into the habit of bringing my own bags with me. I will admit, however, that I miss Targets plastic bags. They fit perfectly in my trash bins.
 
2014-08-30 12:34:55 PM  
I get paper anyway. They make great charcoal chimney starters.
 
2014-08-30 12:40:50 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: I get paper anyway. They make great charcoal chimney starters.


I prefer to grill over old tires and Styrofoam
 
2014-08-30 12:47:51 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: I prefer to grill over old tires and Styrofoam


Good for you?
 
2014-08-30 01:07:34 PM  
Time to roll some...bags?
 
2014-08-30 01:08:46 PM  
Finally the long state nightmare of this is over. It is now that they will finally have time to do the dealing with the prison overcrowding. LAUGHTER OL just kidding they will delay this for as long as possible.
 
2014-08-30 01:29:02 PM  
Been using canvass and insulated bags for the convenience/comfort for quite a while now.
 
2014-08-30 01:43:12 PM  
Oh it's this thread again.
 
2014-08-30 01:46:12 PM  
THIS THREAD AGAIN!!??
 
2014-08-30 01:49:30 PM  
if they banned plastic bags in my area i would be pretty annoyed.  i use them for tons of things, in my garbage cans, i use them to carry my lunch to work, i know my friends use them to dispose of cat litter.  if they banned them, i would just just have to go and purchase medium sized trash bags or something, so it's not like it would create less waste.
 
2014-08-30 01:52:43 PM  
Fact:  17 people have died since Seattle's plastic bag ban.  Do not let this happen in your community.
 
2014-08-30 01:52:52 PM  

meow said the dog: Finally the long state nightmare of this is over. It is now that they will finally have time to do the dealing with the prison overcrowding. LAUGHTER OL just kidding they will delay this for as long as possible.


 I don't think prison overcrowding is a Governor Krusty will deal with, his focus will be the crazy train.
 
2014-08-30 01:53:06 PM  

Kittypie070: THIS THREAD AGAIN!!??


THIS PERSON AGAIN!!??
 
2014-08-30 01:53:19 PM  
OM MAGOODNESS I must provide to you the outrage that we are having the thread about this because we have already once had the plastic banning thread so instead of doing the ignoring of it I will share with you the anger which has possession of me!
 
2014-08-30 01:58:25 PM  
Governments can do multiple things at once. Plastic bags are probably worth banning, honestly. There are acceptable substitutes without the environmental implications.

So, I'm okay with this.
 
2014-08-30 01:58:52 PM  
*Sips from a 64 oz soda in a styrofoam cup while taking groceries home in double bagged plastic*
 
2014-08-30 02:01:29 PM  
lets grocers charge 10 cents each for paper and reusable bags

Lets? That implies they have a choice. The bill demands they charge at least $.10/bag.
 
2014-08-30 02:03:22 PM  

iheartscotch: *Sips from a 64 oz soda in a styrofoam cup while taking groceries home in double bagged plastic*


Meh, who cares? What you're doing or if they ban plastic bags. Seriously, who cares? Oh noes! Paper bags! or canvas. Or using cardboard boxes (Costco)
 
2014-08-30 02:03:31 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: I get paper anyway. They make great charcoal chimney starters.


I always have trouble using chimney starters with lump charcoal, which is mandated by the Big Green Egg (no, I don't buy their expensive-ass brand). I almost always have at least one piece fall out the bottom. My deck has numerous little burn marks on it now.

While it's nice to get all the coals lit at once, I just use the electric charcoal starter. It gets good enough if you leave it in for awhile, and I don't burn the deck.
 
2014-08-30 02:04:42 PM  

Tobin_Lam: lets grocers charge 10 cents each for paper and reusable bags

Lets? That implies they have a choice. The bill demands they charge at least $.10/bag.


But what will they fill the poop bag thing with at dog parks?
 
2014-08-30 02:05:13 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: I prefer to grill over old tires and Styrofoam


 That's all well and good, but I grill over the funeral pyres of people who have pissed me off.
 
2014-08-30 02:06:15 PM  

inglixthemad: iheartscotch: *Sips from a 64 oz soda in a styrofoam cup while taking groceries home in double bagged plastic*

Meh, who cares? What you're doing or if they ban plastic bags. Seriously, who cares? Oh noes! Paper bags! or canvas. Or using cardboard boxes (Costco)


Yeah! What's the environment ever done for us?


/ Built the Aqueduct?

// I was joking
 
2014-08-30 02:06:46 PM  
Pollution and the environment isn't one of the most important issues of our time?

By the way, I love how some people saying, "Yes, we should DEFINITELY do something about this and not, say, prison overcrowding."  As though we can't work on both at the same time.  I'm pretty sure these same would say, "Prison overcrowding?  Yes, we should DEFINITELY do something about this and not, say, education."  Lather, rinse, repeat.  Heavy on the lather.
 
2014-08-30 02:07:43 PM  
Damnit, now teabagging retards across the country have one more stupid thing that sticks it to the libs. Before you know it, they'll be quadruple bagging their groceries in Texas, just to stick to to them libs.
 
2014-08-30 02:08:18 PM  

iheartscotch: *Sips from a 64 oz soda in a styrofoam cup while taking groceries home in double bagged plastic*


 The only thing I would add to this post is that you had poured scotch in your soda while carrying your double-bagged groceries in a Hummer, which was parked in the fire lane.
 
2014-08-30 02:12:53 PM  

elchip: My deck has numerous little burn marks on it now.


Sounds like you need some d*ck maintenance.
 
2014-08-30 02:13:52 PM  

enderthexenocide: if they banned plastic bags in my area i would be pretty annoyed.  i use them for tons of things, in my garbage cans, i use them to carry my lunch to work, i know my friends use them to dispose of cat litter.  if they banned them, i would just just have to go and purchase medium sized trash bags or something, so it's not like it would create less waste.


They banned them in my area.  We bought cloth grocery bags (and one with an insulated lining) and a lunch pail.  Those don't wear out quickly.  We put the bags back in the car after carrying in the groceries.  We use smaller trash cans for paper waste, and throw away non-paper trash in the bigger bins.

I guess you might have to buy little baggies for cat litter, but that's a couple more cents per week, at most.  You need a bigger bag to change a whole box anyway.  You can probably use a gallon ziploc for scooping.

It's not really that big a deal.
 
2014-08-30 02:14:40 PM  

raerae1980: Im okay with this. We already have a ban on them in L.A. Just got into the habit of bringing my own bags with me. I will admit, however, that I miss Targets plastic bags. They fit perfectly in my trash bins.


So are you going to be purchasing plastic trash bags separately now that the stores won't be giving them to you anymore?
 
2014-08-30 02:15:54 PM  
I don't really have a strong opinion on this either way. I mean, what makes them different from trash bags? They are single use, aren't they? And besides, don't people just use the plastic grocery bags for other reasons before throwing them out in larger plastic trash bags? And what about all the other plastic bags you get at the grocery store that you put your fruit and veggies in or your meats or loose bakery breads/rolls/bagels, etc? Are they banned too? If not, why?

/not trolling, I really just don't all that much about this subject.
 
2014-08-30 02:15:57 PM  

dickfreckle: iheartscotch: *Sips from a 64 oz soda in a styrofoam cup while taking groceries home in double bagged plastic*

 The only thing I would add to this post is that you had poured scotch in your soda while carrying your double-bagged groceries in a Hummer, which was parked in the fire lane.


Fine, fine! I double parked in the fire lane, cut off the hummer's muffler, left the hummer idling for 3 hours and I ran over a hippy; are you happy now?
 
2014-08-30 02:16:30 PM  

msqualia: I guess you might have to buy little baggies for cat litter, but that's a couple more cents per week, at most. You need a bigger bag to change a whole box anyway. You can probably use a gallon ziploc for scooping.


Methinks a cat you do not own.
 
2014-08-30 02:17:51 PM  
Fact:  Some people don't wash their reusable sacks and that's why we had the Ebola outbreak in Seattle this year.
 
2014-08-30 02:19:31 PM  
plastic bag ban
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2014-08-30 02:21:00 PM  

enderthexenocide: if they banned plastic bags in my area i would be pretty annoyed.  i use them for tons of things, in my garbage cans, i use them to carry my lunch to work, i know my friends use them to dispose of cat litter.  if they banned them, i would just just have to go and purchase medium sized trash bags or something, so it's not like it would create less waste.


For every one you use for any of the purposes you listed, there are probably 100 that simply get tossed in the trash. Yes, it will create less waste. Don't be silly.
 
2014-08-30 02:23:19 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: I get paper anyway. They make great charcoal chimney starters.


Paper bags costs 5 cents in Eugene, because they didn't think they could ban both....

They grumbling would be a hell of a lot less if they hadn't done the 5 cent thing.
 
2014-08-30 02:24:15 PM  

logic523: msqualia: I guess you might have to buy little baggies for cat litter, but that's a couple more cents per week, at most. You need a bigger bag to change a whole box anyway. You can probably use a gallon ziploc for scooping.

Methinks a cat you do not own.

Me

thinks I didn't get a new one after my old one died of old age.

Mealsothinks there is a giant plastic bag trash island the size of a continent in the pacific ocean, and maybe it's a little frivolous to organize social policy around the optimal handling of cat poop.  I am OK with it being slightly less convenient.
 
2014-08-30 02:25:02 PM  

elchip: Dancin_In_Anson: I get paper anyway. They make great charcoal chimney starters.

I always have trouble using chimney starters with lump charcoal, which is mandated by the Big Green Egg (no, I don't buy their expensive-ass brand). I almost always have at least one piece fall out the bottom. My deck has numerous little burn marks on it now.

While it's nice to get all the coals lit at once, I just use the electric charcoal starter. It gets good enough if you leave it in for awhile, and I don't burn the deck.


Buy the electric starter
 
2014-08-30 02:27:03 PM  

elchip: I just use the electric charcoal starter.


Peter von Nostrand: Buy the electric starter


Open your eyes, Peter.  Open your goddamn eyes.
 
2014-08-30 02:28:14 PM  
Plastic bags were banned in SF a few years ago, and now you have to pay $.10 for any bag at all.  Nobody misses plastic bags even the slightest bit, and we have lots of wind and there is a noticeable lack of plastic bags blowing around in the streets.  Nice.
 
2014-08-30 02:28:41 PM  

raerae1980: Im okay with this. We already have a ban on them in L.A. Just got into the habit of bringing my own bags with me. I will admit, however, that I miss Targets plastic bags. They fit perfectly in my trash bins.


Yeah, this was a really easy transition. I work in a grocery store now and you can always tell who the out-of-towners are because they are shocked that they have to pay 10 cents for a paper bag.
 
2014-08-30 02:30:15 PM  

Sirsky: enderthexenocide: if they banned plastic bags in my area i would be pretty annoyed.  i use them for tons of things, in my garbage cans, i use them to carry my lunch to work, i know my friends use them to dispose of cat litter.  if they banned them, i would just just have to go and purchase medium sized trash bags or something, so it's not like it would create less waste.

For every one you use for any of the purposes you listed, there are probably 100 that simply get tossed in the trash. Yes, it will create less waste. Don't be silly.


And for every 100 that get tossed in the trash, there are probably 5 that don't make it in the trash and just blow around all over the place.  That's where things really get annoying.
 
2014-08-30 02:36:16 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: I get paper anyway. They make great charcoal chimney starters.


Now you'll be paying ten cents apiece for them.
 
2014-08-30 02:39:17 PM  
Soup4Bonnie Fact:17 people have died since Seattle's plastic bag ban.  Do not let this happen in your community.

I didn't know that whole thing over MLK's face would go up like kindling...  http://www.fark.com/comments/3846060/If-you-want-to-pay-respect-to-le g acy-of-Martin-Luther-King-Jr-putting-his-face-on-garbage-bags-is-proba bly-not-best-way-to-go
 
2014-08-30 02:43:13 PM  
I was using canvas up until last year but shifted to plastic in anticipation of this ban, and when I go thru a self-service checkout I triple- or quadruple-bag. I've got probably a thousand or more bags now, which should last me a good while.  My estate trustee will be instructed to release the unused bags in liberal neighborhoods.
 
2014-08-30 02:46:39 PM  

theknuckler_33: I don't really have a strong opinion on this either way. I mean, what makes them different from trash bags? They are single use, aren't they? And besides, don't people just use the plastic grocery bags for other reasons before throwing them out in larger plastic trash bags? And what about all the other plastic bags you get at the grocery store that you put your fruit and veggies in or your meats or loose bakery breads/rolls/bagels, etc? Are they banned too? If not, why?

/not trolling, I really just don't all that much about this subject.


Haven't read the bill but based on how counties that already have a ban deal with it then no, the bags you use at a grocery store or bakery for meats, produce and breads will not be banned and still available. Some places such as fast food joints like Taco Bell and auto parts stores still give out bags so there might be an exemption in place for type of shop as well.
 
2014-08-30 02:47:06 PM  
What will these reusable bag be made of? I have seen reusable bag that were basically a thicker version of the single use bags. I would think that would make the problem worse.
 
2014-08-30 02:47:30 PM  
where do you people live that you or your neighbor care so little about the neighborhood that you just throw your trash in the street?
 
2014-08-30 02:48:43 PM  
Why don't we build new prisoner holding facilities out of the used plastic bags?

Win win.
 
2014-08-30 02:49:54 PM  
I live in San Francisco where there's been a plastic bag ban for a while now. The biggest impact it's had on my life is that now when my dog takes a crap I can no longer just walk to the nearest plant, pick up the plastic bag that's stuck on it and dispose of her waste. Now I have to carry my own bags. :(
 
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