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(Maine News)   Remember all the concern about just how devastating a Yellowstone super-volcano eruption would be? Well, about that   (newsmaine.net) divider line 119
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2014-08-30 08:14:06 AM  
That's just what they WANT you to believe!
 
2014-08-30 08:54:08 AM  
It's only a model.
 
2014-08-30 09:37:01 AM  
That doesn't fit with (get this, not a computer model!) how incredibly powerful we KNOW the last one was because we physically can see the ash layer. Near the edge of California.
 
2014-08-30 11:50:21 AM  
Excuse me if I still don't want to be around when it happens.
 
2014-08-30 12:18:01 PM  

RobertBruce: That doesn't fit with (get this, not a computer model!) how incredibly powerful we KNOW the last one was because we physically can see the ash layer. Near the edge of California.


THIS

while you could argue the next explosion might not cover the same area, we can look at the history of the last three super-events.  those events would fark us over for a VERY LONG time.

plus you would have to imagine that eruptions that cover that much area would have to dump a ton of ash into the atmosphere ... you would assume ...
 
2014-08-30 12:54:41 PM  
Scientists finally took a moment and looked up its location on Google Earth, reportedly commenting, "Oh...that's where it is?  Nevermind..."
 
2014-08-30 12:55:38 PM  
10 to 20 million dead, tops....depending on the breaks.
 
2014-08-30 12:56:48 PM  
A statement by the American Geophysical Union said the accumulations of ash could cause major problems across the nation when spewed in the atmosphere even in small amounts. For example, making highways too slippery to travel, disrupting functioning of electrical transformers, water and sewer lines blockage and causing respiratory illnesses.

Respiratory ailments like pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis?
 
2014-08-30 12:57:49 PM  
tinfoil-hat maggie:

It's only a model.

www.affordablehousinginstitute.org
 
2014-08-30 12:58:22 PM  
I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed, but i am saying we wouldn't get anymore than 10 to 20 million killed, tops!
 
2014-08-30 12:59:34 PM  
the accumulations of ash could cause major problems across the nation

Gee, ya think?

How about the area where the nation's food supply is being totally FUBARed for about 50 years?
 
2014-08-30 01:00:52 PM  
No matter what it would be far more catastrophic than we could possibly anticipate or prepare for which is bad enough really.
 
2014-08-30 01:00:52 PM  

namatad: while you could argue the next explosion might not cover the same area, we can look at the history of the last three super-events. those events would fark us over for a VERY LONG time.


Except maybe the last one blew the cork out of the bottle and there can't be another monstrous buildup of energy.

/ DNRTFA
// Not a geologist
 
2014-08-30 01:02:00 PM  
Plus the USA is not prepared for something like this.

At all.
 
2014-08-30 01:02:14 PM  
Didn't we just have a thread like this?
 
2014-08-30 01:02:25 PM  

Jake Havechek: the accumulations of ash could cause major problems across the nation

Gee, ya think?

How about the area where the nation's food supply is being totally FUBARed for about 50 years?


well, after that it'd be freakin on!
 
2014-08-30 01:02:41 PM  
Tomorrow's news will bring a different report with a model showing it would actually split the Earth in half.... which might be bad.
 
2014-08-30 01:04:18 PM  

Stranded On The Planet Dumbass: I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed, but i am saying we wouldn't get anymore than 10 to 20 million killed, tops!


Will mine shafts help?
 
2014-08-30 01:07:56 PM  

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Didn't we just have a thread like this?


If by thread you mean really bad movie then yes.
 
2014-08-30 01:08:04 PM  

Jake Havechek: Plus the USA is not prepared for something like this.

At all.


There are several natural disasters that could economically pretty much cripple the US. New Madrid would probably be one of the worst.
 
2014-08-30 01:10:18 PM  

Jake Havechek: Plus the USA is not prepared for something like this.

At all.


We're not ready for a 8.0+ earthquake off WA and OR. There'd be nationwide chaos if Yellowstone ever went.
 
2014-08-30 01:13:22 PM  

Jake Havechek: the accumulations of ash could cause major problems across the nation

Gee, ya think?

How about the area where the nation's food supply is being totally FUBARed for about 50 years?


After that, the amount of volcanic ash would make the ground super fertile.
 
2014-08-30 01:14:30 PM  

RobertBruce: That doesn't fit with (get this, not a computer model!) how incredibly powerful we KNOW the last one was because we physically can see the ash layer. Near the edge of California.


Newspaper in Maine thinks it won't be too bad. California doesn't matter.
 
2014-08-30 01:17:35 PM  
Super volcano?  More like a bunch of geologists trying to keep the gas tanks of their Ferarris full.
 
2014-08-30 01:22:25 PM  
Sorry, but Dec 21, 2012 was almost 2 years ago. And people swore up and down the Mayans "Predicted" the next eruption was going to be on that date "OMG! FOR REALS!", because the calender they used (which wasn't even theirs originally) "ended" on that date.

So, yeah, I'm sick of hearing about doomsday scenarios. I've survived too many to count, that never happened.
 
2014-08-30 01:23:53 PM  

born_yesterday: Super volcano?  More like a bunch of geologists trying to keep the gas tanks of their Ferarris full.


Hi Gov. Jindal
 
2014-08-30 01:24:49 PM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Jake Havechek: Plus the USA is not prepared for something like this.

At all.

There are several natural disasters that could economically pretty much cripple the US. New Madrid would probably be one of the worst.


The yearly probability of caldera eruption is like 1 in a million - why the hell would we be trying to prepare for something like that?
 
2014-08-30 01:24:57 PM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Jake Havechek: Plus the USA is not prepared for something like this.

At all.

There are several natural disasters that could economically pretty much cripple the US. New Madrid would probably be one of the worst.


Hell, this country isn't even prepared for natural disasters that happen all the time. Hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards, ice storms, earthquakes...every year they happen and very little is done to mitigate the damage the next time around. Power lines keep going down during ice storms you have every year, might want to invest in stronger power lines or underground power lines. Your state keeps has hundreds killed every year due to poor home construction for hurricanes and tornadoes...invest in public funding for news homes that are up to code. The majority of this country and actually the world does not care about the future because lots of people believe the worst can never happen to them.

Now throw in one in a million type events like supervolcanoes, tsunamis, 9.0 earthquakes, Cat 5 hurricanes, and solar storms that take out power grids, especially in populated areas, and this country will be farked. We know these things happen but is there any plan for a supervolcano on the other side of the planet which would destroy crop production for many years? Probably not. How about clean up for a huge tsunami or hurricane along a major urban area, nope probably not. Solar storms, even though there is numerous examples of them disrupting power, any thought go into strengthening our power grid. Nope.

The worst is when any of these disasters happen, everyone will whine and complain and riot and blame someone else and not themselves for trying to push for future plans.
 
2014-08-30 01:26:19 PM  

born_yesterday: Super volcano?  More like a bunch of geologists trying to keep the gas tanks of their Ferarris full.


If there are geologists keeping the tanks of their Ferarris full, they're working for Exxon Mobile and BP, not USGS.
 
2014-08-30 01:26:41 PM  
Damn, I was really hoping for mass deaths, because of all the stupid that been going on as of late.
 
2014-08-30 01:29:55 PM  

WelldeadLink: RobertBruce: That doesn't fit with (get this, not a computer model!) how incredibly powerful we KNOW the last one was because we physically can see the ash layer. Near the edge of California.

Newspaper in Maine thinks it won't be too bad. California doesn't matter.


Pardon me!?
 
2014-08-30 01:30:50 PM  
Where's the kaboom?

There was supposed to be an earth shattering kaboom.
 
2014-08-30 01:33:08 PM  
On the plus side, that large an eruption would render CO2 levels moot for quite some time.
Roll Coal Biatches, Volcano Coming!
 
2014-08-30 01:37:19 PM  

Fizpez: Tomorrow's news will bring a different report with a model showing it would actually split the Earth in half.... which might be bad.


I'm fuzzy on this whole 'good/bad' thing.  What do you mean 'bad'?
 
2014-08-30 01:37:31 PM  

germ78: A statement by the American Geophysical Union said the accumulations of ash could cause major problems across the nation when spewed in the atmosphere even in small amounts. For example, making highways too slippery to travel, disrupting functioning of electrical transformers, water and sewer lines blockage and causing respiratory illnesses.

Respiratory ailments like pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis?


You sound awfully precocious

/umdiddleiddlediddileiddlediddlei
 
2014-08-30 01:38:46 PM  

Fizpez: tinfoil-hat maggie: Jake Havechek: Plus the USA is not prepared for something like this.

At all.

There are several natural disasters that could economically pretty much cripple the US. New Madrid would probably be one of the worst.

The yearly probability of caldera eruption is like 1 in a million - why the hell would we be trying to prepare for something like that?


Question is how could you?
 
2014-08-30 01:40:30 PM  
So, an article writer that doesn't really understand the difference between "could" and "would".

Most of what I saw previously about it was "could".

Now these guys are going out on a limb with "would".  Respectable scientists tend to stay away from absolutes of certain knowledge like that.


Stranded On The Planet Dumbass: I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed, but i am saying we wouldn't get anymore than 10 to 20 million killed, tops!


/nice
//I did have to google it, but I knew I knew it..
 
2014-08-30 01:41:10 PM  
They forgot to account for ebola.
 
2014-08-30 01:43:17 PM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: It's only a model.


It's models all the way down.
 
2014-08-30 01:44:08 PM  

ActionJoe: tinfoil-hat maggie: Jake Havechek: Plus the USA is not prepared for something like this.

At all.

There are several natural disasters that could economically pretty much cripple the US. New Madrid would probably be one of the worst.

Hell, this country isn't even prepared for natural disasters that happen all the time. Hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards, ice storms, earthquakes...every year they happen and very little is done to mitigate the damage the next time around. Power lines keep going down during ice storms you have every year, might want to invest in stronger power lines or underground power lines.



Would that work in areas with deep frost?  Growing up in rural Iowa, I saw roads and fields heaved up by frost every year. Seems like the current (haha) system can at least be quickly repaired once crews get there.
 
2014-08-30 01:44:22 PM  
Why don't they DO something? Fill it in with concrete or cover it with, I don't know, styrofoam. I guess I'm gonna have to talk to that 21 year old who's been saving her self for marriage. I'd hate to see her sacrificed, just because she's a virgin. Sigh. The things I do for humanity.
 
2014-08-30 01:45:44 PM  
"You see, your eruption there would only be MOSTLY devastating. There's a big difference between mostly devastating, and all devastating. Mostly devastating... is slightly undamaged. All devastating? Well, with all devastating there's usually only one thing you can do."
"What's that?"
"Go through the ruins and look for loose change."
 
2014-08-30 01:46:51 PM  

studebaker hoch: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Didn't we just have a thread like this?

If by thread you mean really bad movie then yes.


http://www.fark.com/comments/8392949/Its-not-news-its-latest-regurgita ted-article-about-how-Yellowstone-caldera-will-KILL-US-ALL&new=1#new

My bad. It was a thread about how it's going to kill us all two days ago.
 
2014-08-30 01:50:13 PM  

ThatBillmanGuy: Sorry, but Dec 21, 2012 was almost 2 years ago. And people swore up and down the Mayans "Predicted" the next eruption was going to be on that date "OMG! FOR REALS!", because the calender they used (which wasn't even theirs originally) "ended" on that date.

So, yeah, I'm sick of hearing about doomsday scenarios. I've survived too many to count, that never happened.


According to the  US Geological Survey this recent bout of rumors started with an article, "Yellowstone Evacuated,"  published by satire website Civic Tribune.

The USGS basically said, "It is obviously satire, Yellowstone hasn't been evacuated, and we can tell that by looking at our webcam, Eyes on Yellowstone."

/Yes, look, there are people. Wait, the people are running. Oh Jebus, the flames, the fire, my God, the humanity. Agghh.
 
2014-08-30 01:51:26 PM  
Hmm... do we believe the evidence left behind by the previous eruptions of super volcanos, or do we believe these guys and their model?
 
2014-08-30 01:53:24 PM  

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: studebaker hoch: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Didn't we just have a thread like this?

If by thread you mean really bad movie then yes.

http://www.fark.com/comments/8392949/Its-not-news-its-latest-regurgit a ted-article-about-how-Yellowstone-caldera-will-KILL-US-ALL&new=1#new

My bad. It was a thread about how it's going to kill us all two days ago.


Two days ago? As if volcanoes weren't bad enough, now we've got a volcano with its own tardis!
 
2014-08-30 01:53:42 PM  

Jake Havechek: Plus the USA is not prepared for something like this.

At all.


Ain't nobody...

/Nevermind
 
2014-08-30 01:57:29 PM  

The Green Intern: ActionJoe: tinfoil-hat maggie: Jake Havechek: Plus the USA is not prepared for something like this.

At all.

There are several natural disasters that could economically pretty much cripple the US. New Madrid would probably be one of the worst.

Hell, this country isn't even prepared for natural disasters that happen all the time. Hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards, ice storms, earthquakes...every year they happen and very little is done to mitigate the damage the next time around. Power lines keep going down during ice storms you have every year, might want to invest in stronger power lines or underground power lines.


Would that work in areas with deep frost?  Growing up in rural Iowa, I saw roads and fields heaved up by frost every year. Seems like the current (haha) system can at least be quickly repaired once crews get there.


If you go deep enough, yes it will work fine.  Frost tends to not go really deep. 6ft at the most for the US.(not sure if that includes Alaska)

As to fixing it, it can be a bit of work, but it breaks far less often, so you wind up ahead of the game.  With that in mind, you may be able to go less than 6 feet deep depending on what the land in that region does when it does freeze.
 
2014-08-30 02:01:24 PM  

CodeMonkey4Life: On the plus side, that large an eruption would render CO2 levels moot for quite some time.
Roll Coal Biatches, Volcano Coming!


Actually one of the reasons super volcanos are bad is that they expose and set fire to millions of acres of fossil fuels. One could argue we have been doing a fine job taking the bullets out of that gun.
 
2014-08-30 02:01:51 PM  

a_bilge_monkey: born_yesterday: Super volcano?  More like a bunch of geologists trying to keep the gas tanks of their Ferarris full.

If there are geologists keeping the tanks of their Ferarris full, they're working for Exxon Mobile and BP, not USGS


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