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(Breitbart.com)   Saudi Foreign Minister: Enough is enough: it's time for Saudi Arabia to recognize Israel's legitimate right to exist and to normalize relations, and the Palestinians should do the same   (breitbart.com) divider line 288
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2014-08-30 12:08:19 AM  
Well it's quite apparent someone is in for a whoopin when they get back to the Kingdom.
 
2014-08-30 12:09:13 AM  
Someone will probably try to kill him for it..
 
2014-08-30 12:18:34 AM  
Considering they still behead people (publicly) in Saudi Arabia for several crimes including sorcery...

Yah, I'm not inclined to care what anyone where thinks.
 
2014-08-30 12:21:15 AM  
He's not wrong, but Saudi Arabia has no legitimacy in the matter.
 
2014-08-30 12:23:03 AM  

Ambivalence: Considering they still behead people (publicly) in Saudi Arabia for several crimes including sorcery...

Yah, I'm not inclined to care what anyone where thinks.


well, as long as they are killing BAD people I am ok ...
HAH
 
2014-08-30 12:23:45 AM  

namatad: well, as long as they are killing BAD people I am ok ...
HAH


Everyone's a bad person to someone.  And all villians are heroes in their own minds.
 
2014-08-30 12:24:53 AM  

make me some tea: He's not wrong, but Saudi Arabia has no legitimacy in the matter.


where does Hamas get it's money?
Iran?

in the end, saudi oil money goes a long way ...
 
2014-08-30 12:34:58 AM  
"Palestinians should do the same" They'll do that as soon as the shelling stops.
 
2014-08-30 12:35:17 AM  
Amazing. But I guess it's only the opinion of one enlightened man.
 
2014-08-30 12:39:45 AM  

Irving Maimway: "Palestinians should do the same" They'll do that as soon as the shelling stops.


derp?
 
2014-08-30 12:43:05 AM  

namatad: Irving Maimway: "Palestinians should do the same" They'll do that as soon as the shelling stops.

derp?


Saying I don't think the Palestinians are the problem in the Israel / Palestine conflict.
 
2014-08-30 12:43:35 AM  
Ewwww. Breitbart.
 
2014-08-30 12:55:32 AM  

Irving Maimway: namatad: Irving Maimway: "Palestinians should do the same" They'll do that as soon as the shelling stops.

derp?

Saying I don't think the Palestinians are the problem in the Israel / Palestine conflict.



Neither side is particularly innocent in that conflict.
 
2014-08-30 01:06:38 AM  

SilentStrider: Irving Maimway: namatad: Irving Maimway: "Palestinians should do the same" They'll do that as soon as the shelling stops.

derp?

Saying I don't think the Palestinians are the problem in the Israel / Palestine conflict.


Neither side is particularly innocent in that conflict.


Agreed.  But perhaps a mutual recognition of the others rights could be a stepping stone.
 
2014-08-30 01:08:31 AM  

namatad: make me some tea: He's not wrong, but Saudi Arabia has no legitimacy in the matter.

where does Hamas get it's money?
Iran?


From you.  Or more properly, your grandchildren.
 
2014-08-30 01:09:44 AM  
Are there other sources that can confirm this statement?
 
2014-08-30 01:09:44 AM  
Saudia Arabia and the other Arab states have basically been okay with Israel for some time now; they're much more worried about Iran (and ISIS as well). They know that Israel doesn't really have any plans to expand its borders. Neither do the Arab states really care about the Palestinians (hell, Jordan kicked out the Palestinian refugees in the '70s).

I've met some Sunni Bahrainis, and they're scared shiatless about Iran. Granted, some of that's because Bahrain has a large and mistreated Shi'ite population. However, the fact remains that Iran has goals of regional hegemony that would be harmful to the Arab states, and they know it. Further, Iran's historically been capable of being a major power in the Middle East (and even in the days of the Umayyad Caliphate, Persian culture was a powerful force).
 
2014-08-30 01:28:43 AM  
He will be missed.
 
2014-08-30 01:28:52 AM  
Saudia can do more to help cure this than anyone else.

How?

Saudi Arabia continues to import huge amounts of labor into itself from Kirachi, mostly because the citizens don't want to work and have enough money to pay.

So ... They actually can import the entirety of the Palestinian Population into an economy where there is lots of work and good wages.

Everyone who is Arab and was Bron under occupation (or survived the wars) should be able to move there. I'm sure that there is a lot more good press in importing actual Arabs who know how to work.
 
2014-08-30 01:29:02 AM  
Hmmm, sit's back and awaits more unrest in Al Suad's Arabia.
 
2014-08-30 01:31:02 AM  

rubi_con_man: Saudia can do more to help cure this than anyone else.

How?

Saudi Arabia continues to import huge amounts of labor into itself from Kirachi, mostly because the citizens don't want to work and have enough money to pay.

So ... They actually can import the entirety of the Palestinian Population into an economy where there is lots of work and good wages.

Everyone who is Arab and was Bron under occupation (or survived the wars) should be able to move there. I'm sure that there is a lot more good press in importing actual Arabs who know how to work.


So you're saying the Palestinians should leave their homeland? Farking example of the Stupid American.
 
2014-08-30 01:37:06 AM  

Irving Maimway: namatad: Irving Maimway: "Palestinians should do the same" They'll do that as soon as the shelling stops.

derp?

Saying I don't think the Palestinians are the problem in the Israel / Palestine conflict.


ahahaha hahah hhhaha hahaahah hahahaha hah aahahahhaah
really?
you're serious?
let me laugh even harder 
BWEAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

at worst, BOTH are the problem
the idea that only Israel is the problem ... 
WELL
Israel was attacked in 48, 67, 73 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Israel 

so forgive them for defending themselves ... quite well
certainly, the attackers dont want them to defend ...

oh nvm
 
2014-08-30 01:38:13 AM  

SquiggsIN: optional: Iran's historically been capable of being a major power in the Middle East (and even in the days of the Umayyad Caliphate, Persian culture was a powerful force).

Oh when am I going to be able to use this one again :

[img.fark.net image 578x352]

Umayyad bro?


Dr. Ibrahim of ISIS probably masturbates to that map every night.
 
2014-08-30 01:40:06 AM  

SilentStrider: Irving Maimway: namatad: Irving Maimway: "Palestinians should do the same" They'll do that as soon as the shelling stops.

derp?

Saying I don't think the Palestinians are the problem in the Israel / Palestine conflict.


Neither side is particularly innocent in that conflict.


innocent?
why is innocent even being used?

it is WAR ...
people die in wars
both sides try to win ...
one side loses
or both sides agree to a cease fire

but innocent? MEH
it is war

wars are never just or right or proper or humane or pretty

PS
If you live in a country that exists today, it was built by war.
Get over yourself.
 
2014-08-30 01:40:35 AM  

namatad: at worst, BOTH are the problem
the idea that only Israel is the problem ...
WELL


It's called reality.

Without the Zionist movement, there would be no Palestinian reprisal.

This issue is cut and dried. Saying "both sides are bad" shows a lack of commitment on your part.

Israel needs to be renegotiated into becoming a non-secular state which welcomes freedom of religion. And the the right wing government needs to be tossed out of office. They are the ones continuing this increasingly dangerous threat to world peace.

There is no debate on this, given the escalating violence.
 
2014-08-30 01:41:45 AM  

namatad: Irving Maimway: namatad: Irving Maimway: "Palestinians should do the same" They'll do that as soon as the shelling stops.

derp?

Saying I don't think the Palestinians are the problem in the Israel / Palestine conflict.

ahahaha hahah hhhaha hahaahah hahahaha hah aahahahhaah
really?
you're serious?
let me laugh even harder
BWEAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

at worst, BOTH are the problem
the idea that only Israel is the problem ...
WELL
Israel was attacked in 48, 67, 73
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Israel
so forgive them for defending themselves ... quite well
certainly, the attackers dont want them to defend ...

oh nvm


Um until the terrorism brought by the influx of Hebrew settlers what problems other than global conflicts did the Palestinians have?
 
2014-08-30 01:42:18 AM  

Irving Maimway: "Palestinians should do the same" They'll do that as soon as the shelling stops.


The shelling will stop when the rockets carelessly fired into Israel stops.

Dumbass.
 
2014-08-30 01:43:22 AM  
Israel needs to be renegotiated into a non-secular state

fixed

*like anyone's reading this*
 
2014-08-30 01:45:17 AM  

gfid: Irving Maimway: "Palestinians should do the same" They'll do that as soon as the shelling stops.

The shelling will stop when the rockets carelessly fired into Israel stops.

Dumbass.


So give the Palestinians better guidance systems dumbass.
/Then they'll only hit wedding parties every so often.
 
2014-08-30 01:45:59 AM  

whidbey: Israel needs to be renegotiated into a non-secular state

fixed

*like anyone's reading this*


Hmmm... :/
 
2014-08-30 01:46:28 AM  

gfid: Irving Maimway: "Palestinians should do the same" They'll do that as soon as the shelling stops.

The shelling will stop when the rockets carelessly fired into Israel stops.

Dumbass.


lol no

I love Israel apologists.
 
2014-08-30 01:48:40 AM  

SquiggsIN: Right, your opinion matters.


When that opinion is the correct one, it doesn't matter who says it. It's your failure to acknowledge it.

Israel is a mistake we allowed to happen, and now if we don't correct it, we will have WWIII.

It's that simple. Stick a fork in it.
 
2014-08-30 01:53:32 AM  
lh5.googleusercontent.com
 
2014-08-30 01:53:43 AM  
That's awfully ballsy of you to give that opinion when we all know the Internet Defense Force doesn't roll on shabbos, whidbey. I like it.
 
2014-08-30 01:54:47 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: namatad: Irving Maimway: namatad: Irving Maimway: "Palestinians should do the same" They'll do that as soon as the shelling stops.

derp?

Saying I don't think the Palestinians are the problem in the Israel / Palestine conflict.

ahahaha hahah hhhaha hahaahah hahahaha hah aahahahhaah
really?
you're serious?
let me laugh even harder
BWEAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

at worst, BOTH are the problem
the idea that only Israel is the problem ...
WELL
Israel was attacked in 48, 67, 73
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Israel
so forgive them for defending themselves ... quite well
certainly, the attackers dont want them to defend ...

oh nvm

Um until the terrorism brought by the influx of Hebrew settlers what problems other than global conflicts did the Palestinians have?


You realize that it is legal to settle land that you win in war, right?
Might suck for the losers, but 10,000 years of human warfare has always been the same.

But go ahead tell me about the "hebrews".
 
2014-08-30 01:58:21 AM  

SquiggsIN: whidbey: SquiggsIN: Right, your opinion matters.

When that opinion is the correct one, it doesn't matter who says it. It's your failure to acknowledge it.

Israel is a mistake we allowed to happen, and now if we don't correct it, we will have WWIII.

It's that simple. Stick a fork in it.

Do you have one of these for each day of the week?
[img.fark.net image 600x600]


Well when you completely blow off my post by saying my opinion doesn't matter, you kind of deserve some shiat for it, dude. Just saying.
 
2014-08-30 01:58:28 AM  

Frederick: SilentStrider: Irving Maimway: namatad: Irving Maimway: "Palestinians should do the same" They'll do that as soon as the shelling stops.

derp?

Saying I don't think the Palestinians are the problem in the Israel / Palestine conflict.


Neither side is particularly innocent in that conflict.

Agreed.  But perhaps a mutual recognition of the others rights could be a stepping stone.


Under heavy pressure to recognize Palestinian rights, Israel gave Gaza to the Palestinians. They turned it into a hellhole and base for rocket launches into Israel. So now it's the Palestinians turn to recognize Israel's rights.
 
2014-08-30 01:58:29 AM  

gfid: The shelling will stop when the rockets carelessly fired into Israel stops.

Dumbass.


i560.photobucket.com
 
2014-08-30 02:00:22 AM  

Uncle Tractor: gfid: The shelling will stop when the rockets carelessly fired into Israel stops.

Dumbass.

[i560.photobucket.com image 360x480]


Seriously Israeli apologists are a seriously wtf bunch of people. They must really admire fundamentalism, xenophobia and the militant aggression needed to keep those goals alive.
 
2014-08-30 02:05:17 AM  

namatad: tinfoil-hat maggie: namatad: Irving Maimway: namatad: Irving Maimway: "Palestinians should do the same" They'll do that as soon as the shelling stops.

derp?

Saying I don't think the Palestinians are the problem in the Israel / Palestine conflict.

ahahaha hahah hhhaha hahaahah hahahaha hah aahahahhaah
really?
you're serious?
let me laugh even harder
BWEAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

at worst, BOTH are the problem
the idea that only Israel is the problem ...
WELL
Israel was attacked in 48, 67, 73
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Israel
so forgive them for defending themselves ... quite well
certainly, the attackers dont want them to defend ...

oh nvm

Um until the terrorism brought by the influx of Hebrew settlers what problems other than global conflicts did the Palestinians have?

You realize that it is legal to settle land that you win in war, right?
Might suck for the losers, but 10,000 years of human warfare has always been the same.

But go ahead tell me about the "hebrews".


What no I'm talking about the terrorism that happened when it was still Palestine under Brit rule so maybe I will.
 
2014-08-30 02:09:20 AM  

whidbey: gfid: Irving Maimway: "Palestinians should do the same" They'll do that as soon as the shelling stops.

The shelling will stop when the rockets carelessly fired into Israel stops.

Dumbass.

lol no

I love Israel apologists.


Glad to see you and Unca Tractor think the solution is firing more rockets.  That's always a blueprint for peace.

How's that working out for Hamas?

Not so well, eh?  Israel still exists.  Hamas isn't doing too well at destroying them.  Maybe they should try to play nice before someone gets really hurt.
 
2014-08-30 02:10:05 AM  

namatad: You realize that it is legal to settle land that you win in war, right?


I see you've never heard of the Fourth Geneva Convention:

Section III. Occupied territories
article 49 - Population transfer

The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.

The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.

Israel is shiatting all over this ...on the entire GCIV, actually. Another little tidbit from the GCIV:

"Under the 1949 Geneva Conventions, collective punishment is a war crime."

...Which is what Israel has been doing to the palestinians ever since 1947.

Might suck for the losers, but 10,000 years of human warfare has always been the same.

GCIV was adopted in 1949. Do try to keep up.
 
2014-08-30 02:10:37 AM  
If relations with the Israelis are legitimate, countries have a way of shutting that down.
 
2014-08-30 02:11:48 AM  

SilentStrider: Irving Maimway: namatad: Irving Maimway: "Palestinians should do the same" They'll do that as soon as the shelling stops.

derp?

Saying I don't think the Palestinians are the problem in the Israel / Palestine conflict.


Neither side is particularly innocent in that conflict.


Exactly...

Of course, Israel hasn't been helping their cause this summer, IMHO, especially since they farking made up the shiat they used to justify this latest round of fun and games in the first place.

I still think the entire region should be walled in and sealed off for 10 years or so. Give everyone a window in which to be out before the doors are shut, and then NO contact with the outside world until that 10 years is up. Not just Israel, mind you, I mean the whole farking Middle East.

And then if whoever is left standing at the end still can't act like grown-ups, we go ahead and plan out a nice lake of glass.
 
2014-08-30 02:12:08 AM  

whidbey: Uncle Tractor: gfid: The shelling will stop when the rockets carelessly fired into Israel stops.

Dumbass.

[i560.photobucket.com image 360x480]

Seriously Israeli apologists are a seriously wtf bunch of people. They must really admire fundamentalism, xenophobia and the militant aggression needed to keep those goals alive.


LOL, nah, we just realize that the crazy people will just keep killing each other anyway with or without Israel, so why not
 
2014-08-30 02:12:48 AM  

SquiggsIN: I'm now ignoring you


Ignoring me isn't going to make your uphill climb in a sea of liberals any less difficult, just saying.
 
2014-08-30 02:13:46 AM  

Mikey1969: And then if whoever is left standing at the end still can't act like grown-ups, we go ahead and plan out a nice lake of glass.


Because that would be such a grown-up solution to the problem.
 
2014-08-30 02:14:58 AM  

gfid: Glad to see you and Unca Tractor think the solution is firing more rockets.


i560.photobucket.com

When all else fails, make shiat up ...
 
2014-08-30 02:16:35 AM  
Would be a fantastic development if true, but there's too much cynic in me to accept this as a path towards official policy by the Saudi's. Still at some point the Saudi's have to acknowledge what they've created though I'm still waiting on Pakistan to acknowledge that creating the Taliban might have been a mistake.
 
2014-08-30 02:17:07 AM  

whidbey: Seriously Israeli apologists are a seriously wtf bunch of people. They must really admire fundamentalism, xenophobia and the militant aggression needed to keep those goals alive.


Nah, they're just racists ...or wilfully ignorant because jeebus on a raptor.
 
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