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2014-08-29 01:34:22 PM  
Oh that's hysterical (no pun intended).

What's even better is that this Reno person can't even make a convincing argument to his own imaginary women.
 
2014-08-29 01:46:56 PM  
Dear GOP,

Every time you talk about minorities, women, and gays you shoot yourself in the foot. Every time. You claim you are the only party that understands economics. Economics relies upon being able to recognize patterns and make predictions based on those patterns. That you haven't recognized the pattern which happens every time you talk about minorities, women, and gays makes me seriously question whether or not you can identify the vastly more complex patterns that govern the economy.
 
2014-08-29 01:49:31 PM  
Good to see that most Republicans still haven't gotten past the era when the Mary Tyler Moore Show'was groundbreaking and controversial.
 
2014-08-29 01:50:04 PM  
*GOPer walks on stage to podium*
*Clears throat*
*Lights dim in the audience*

"Just like a gender gap exists, a marriage gap also exists," Conston said. "While young unmarried women have always skewed liberal, the polling found married women across the country are far more likely to be conservative and are receptive to center-right policies."

GOP: How can we fix this? We should think outside the box. Let's illustrate our solution with a story. A made up one. Of a made up female. Who could be a real person. It's possible.

Reno begins his piece with a richly-drawn portrait of a hypothetical female Democratic voter: She is a "single, 35-year-old McKinsey consultant living in suburban Chicago who thinks of herself as vulnerable and votes for enhanced social programs designed to protect against the dangers and uncertainties of life." (Reno does not specify the number of cats she owns, but for the purposes of this discussion, let's assume the answer is "several.") Reno speculates that this woman (whom he has invented and preprogrammed with opinions) feels "judged" by a Republican platform that opposes gay marriage, because "she intuitively senses that being pro-traditional marriage involves asserting male-female marriage as the norm-and therefore that her life isn't on the right path." So she votes for the Democrat, who does not appear to be "intolerant" of her lifestyle.

Here comes the part of the exercise where Reno carefully instructs this fantasy lady liberal that she has chosen poorly, and that the Republican party is the logical choice for a woman in her circumstance. This woman is suffering from "various kinds of personal unhappiness related to the lack of clear norms for how to live," Reno writes. She secretly "wants to get married and feels vulnerable because she isn't and vulnerable because she's not confident she can." And so, actually, she should support the party that wants to force people into traditional marriages, thus improving her chances of getting married herself. (Perhaps she can marry a gay man?) If only our hypothetical cat lady could get on board, she would get a husband, the Republicans would get another married woman to add to their key demographic, and gay people would get totally screwed.


So the answer is clear. Make marriage only about 1 man and 1 woman and force the gays to stop being gay and then the liberal women will all of a sudden want to get married and then they'll vote GOP in droves.

BRILLIANT!

*bows to applause*
*leaves stage a hero*
 
2014-08-29 01:54:26 PM  
Holy ape shiatting christ.

A) A 35 year old single woman in chicago who owns her own home and has 100k in retirement already?

www.slate.com

B) Women only support gay marriage because they're afraid they'll never get married themselves? Way to be a dick.
 
2014-08-29 01:54:50 PM  
Holy shiat, how patronizing.

"single, 35-year-old McKinsey consultant living in suburban Chicago who thinks of herself as vulnerable and votes for enhanced social programs designed to protect against the dangers and uncertainties of life."

Or she's a person like me who doesn't need most social programs yet supports them because, while there are people who game the system, it's worth making sure that fewer truly deserving or innocent people go without.
 
2014-08-29 01:59:28 PM  
41.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-08-29 02:01:08 PM  

Diogenes: Oh that's hysterical (no pun intended).

What's even better is that this Reno person can't even make a convincing argument to his own imaginary women.



Have you ever had an imaginary woman listen to you? They keep interrupting! It's hard to get a word in edgewi--

Yes, dear, I took out the trash this morning.
 
2014-08-29 02:02:29 PM  

Sybarite: [41.media.tumblr.com image 320x277]


Laughter Oh El.
 
2014-08-29 02:05:38 PM  
cdn.theatlantic.com
 
2014-08-29 02:10:14 PM  
I still don't understand why the Democrats just don't take these things and bombard people with them on TV at every election.

The GOP's biggest enemy is themselves, and Democrats are too chickensh*t to take advantage of that. The average 'Murcan voter doesn't read Slate. Hell, I don't read Slate. Just put commercials of Republicans talking during episodes of Honey Boo Boo and Du[mbf*]ck Dynasty, and people might start to pull their head out of their ass.
 
2014-08-29 02:24:25 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: I still don't understand why the Democrats just don't take these things and bombard people with them on TV at every election.

The GOP's biggest enemy is themselves, and Democrats are too chickensh*t to take advantage of that. The average 'Murcan voter doesn't read Slate. Hell, I don't read Slate. Just put commercials of Republicans talking during episodes of Honey Boo Boo and Du[mbf*]ck Dynasty, and people might start to pull their head out of their ass.


it's the never ending "higher ground" .... sigh
makes me crazy

Kerry ... winner of 3 purple hearts, lost to a drunk, coward who hid.
All that he had to do was wear his purple hearts and ask, over and over, where were you hiding while I was getting shot? can you produce one person who cant vouch for your location? other than a bar and working some campaign ...
 
2014-08-29 02:49:50 PM  

James!: Holy ape shiatting christ.

A) A 35 year old single woman in chicago who owns her own home and has 100k in retirement already?

[www.slate.com image 568x374]

B) Women only support gay marriage because they're afraid they'll never get married themselves? Way to be a dick.


That "info"graphic never fails to amuse. If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes I would have sworn it's from The Onion.
 
2014-08-29 02:52:38 PM  

Nadie_AZ: *GOPer walks on stage to podium*
*Clears throat*
*Lights dim in the audience*

"Just like a gender gap exists, a marriage gap also exists," Conston said. "While young unmarried women have always skewed liberal, the polling found married women across the country are far more likely to be conservative and are receptive to center-right policies."

GOP: How can we fix this? We should think outside the box. Let's illustrate our solution with a story. A made up one. Of a made up female. Who could be a real person. It's possible.

Reno begins his piece with a richly-drawn portrait of a hypothetical female Democratic voter: She is a "single, 35-year-old McKinsey consultant living in suburban Chicago who thinks of herself as vulnerable and votes for enhanced social programs designed to protect against the dangers and uncertainties of life." (Reno does not specify the number of cats she owns, but for the purposes of this discussion, let's assume the answer is "several.") Reno speculates that this woman (whom he has invented and preprogrammed with opinions) feels "judged" by a Republican platform that opposes gay marriage, because "she intuitively senses that being pro-traditional marriage involves asserting male-female marriage as the norm-and therefore that her life isn't on the right path." So she votes for the Democrat, who does not appear to be "intolerant" of her lifestyle.

Here comes the part of the exercise where Reno carefully instructs this fantasy lady liberal that she has chosen poorly, and that the Republican party is the logical choice for a woman in her circumstance. This woman is suffering from "various kinds of personal unhappiness related to the lack of clear norms for how to live," Reno writes. She secretly "wants to get married and feels vulnerable because she isn't and vulnerable because she's not confident she can." And so, actually, she should support the party that wants to force people into traditional marriages, thus improving her chances of getting ...


Marrying a gay man seems to have solidified Michelle Bachmann's Republican positions.
 
2014-08-29 02:58:03 PM  
I had more respect for them when it wasn't clear they believed their own crap.
 
2014-08-29 03:01:47 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Reno speculates that this woman (whom he has invented and preprogrammed with opinions) feels "judged" by a Republican platform that opposes gay marriage, because "she intuitively senses that being pro-traditional marriage involves asserting male-female marriage as the norm-and therefore that her life isn't on the right path." So she votes for the Democrat, who does not appear to be "intolerant" of her lifestyle.


Amazing. They correctly identify that at least one of their problems is that a younger woman might feel like she doesn't fit in the GOP because they disagree with her life choices, and instead votes with Democrats who do not judge people for making decisions about how they want to live their lives.

Conclusion: Tell her she should really just settle down with a man already.

The complete obliviousness to the fact that that's the whole farking problem is utterly astounding.
 
2014-08-29 03:05:29 PM  

nmrsnr: Nadie_AZ: Reno speculates that this woman (whom he has invented and preprogrammed with opinions) feels "judged" by a Republican platform that opposes gay marriage, because "she intuitively senses that being pro-traditional marriage involves asserting male-female marriage as the norm-and therefore that her life isn't on the right path." So she votes for the Democrat, who does not appear to be "intolerant" of her lifestyle.

Amazing. They correctly identify that at least one of their problems is that a younger woman might feel like she doesn't fit in the GOP because they disagree with her life choices, and instead votes with Democrats who do not judge people for making decisions about how they want to live their lives.

Conclusion: Tell her she should really just settle down with a man already.

The complete obliviousness to the fact that that's the whole farking problem is utterly astounding.


To paraphrase Evil; They're mercifully free of the ravages of self-awareness
 
2014-08-29 03:05:47 PM  

nmrsnr: Nadie_AZ: Reno speculates that this woman (whom he has invented and preprogrammed with opinions) feels "judged" by a Republican platform that opposes gay marriage, because "she intuitively senses that being pro-traditional marriage involves asserting male-female marriage as the norm-and therefore that her life isn't on the right path." So she votes for the Democrat, who does not appear to be "intolerant" of her lifestyle.

Amazing. They correctly identify that at least one of their problems is that a younger woman might feel like she doesn't fit in the GOP because they disagree with her life choices, and instead votes with Democrats who do not judge people for making decisions about how they want to live their lives.

Conclusion: Tell her she should really just settle down with a man already.

The complete obliviousness to the fact that that's the whole farking problem is utterly astounding.


Remember: the GOP doesn't have a problem because they're wrong on pretty much every issue that exists. It's just a messaging problem. You dumb plebes just don't understand the message.
 
2014-08-29 03:24:19 PM  

Quasar: Remember: the GOP doesn't have a problem because they're wrong on pretty much every issue that exists. It's just a messaging problem. You dumb plebes just don't understand the message.


So here's the thing. I really do understand where the GOP is coming from, it's just that their task is nearly impossible, and made worse by the way they are going about it.

We're fundamentally not arguing about how to achieve what we want in our society, we are arguing about what we want our society to be. Democrats want to live in a more morally relativistic world, where who you are, how you identify yourself, who you love, what's important in your life, etc. are defined by you, and you alone, and that society should be as accepting as possible of all the various flavors of person, while still preserving some semblance of order in the public sphere. Republicans see this model as courting chaos.

They instead believe that they have, if not the best morality (although most would argue they do), at least a morality that has been proven to lead to a stable and prosperous society, and that society should strive to maintain and build upon that prosperity. Therefore the woman who wants to be a professional and not get married, or the gay couple, or the transgendered person who all want the status quo changed don't realize that they are dangerous to the society that they live in. It is the job of the conservative to convince them that, while they understand what they want, what they want is actually bad. They shouldn't want it. And they are convinced that if they can just explain that right, the people will realize they don't hate them, and that what they want is actually the best for everybody in the end.

This, by the way, isn't just for conservatives. Liberals all the time say things like wanting lower taxes for yourself at the expense of social safety nets are selfish and bad for society, and that those who argue for it are wrong, and shouldn't want that, because it will ultimately be worse for everybody.

This is not to say that one is inherently as valid as the other, merely that the sentiment comes from the same place.
 
2014-08-29 03:26:28 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-08-29 03:27:42 PM  

Quasar: nmrsnr: Nadie_AZ: Reno speculates that this woman (whom he has invented and preprogrammed with opinions) feels "judged" by a Republican platform that opposes gay marriage, because "she intuitively senses that being pro-traditional marriage involves asserting male-female marriage as the norm-and therefore that her life isn't on the right path." So she votes for the Democrat, who does not appear to be "intolerant" of her lifestyle.

Amazing. They correctly identify that at least one of their problems is that a younger woman might feel like she doesn't fit in the GOP because they disagree with her life choices, and instead votes with Democrats who do not judge people for making decisions about how they want to live their lives.

Conclusion: Tell her she should really just settle down with a man already.

The complete obliviousness to the fact that that's the whole farking problem is utterly astounding.

Remember: the GOP doesn't have a problem because they're wrong on pretty much every issue that exists. It's just a messaging problem. You dumb plebes just don't understand the message.


The message seems to be 'Kneel before your betters!!!'
 
2014-08-29 03:29:05 PM  
The GOP likes for people to feel bad. Stop finding reasons not to feel bad, people!
 
2014-08-29 03:30:08 PM  
Judging from the commercials here in Colorado(Udall/Gardner), you'd think abortion is the only and most important issue ever. Ugh.
 
2014-08-29 03:31:33 PM  
You know who else courted the female vote by promising them husbands?

Hey GOP.  I know this will make your head explode, but women feel vulnerable when they have to depend on a husband to stay out of poverty because their shiatty jobs don't pay enough.
 
2014-08-29 03:31:36 PM  
The best part is I can totally picture a bunch of fat, balding, rich white men all sitting around a big table nodding at each other as they come to these stunning insights.
 
2014-08-29 03:31:43 PM  
The GOP just doesn't get it...

Wrapping your shiat up in a pretty bow doesn't make it stink less.
 
2014-08-29 03:31:58 PM  

nmrsnr: This is not to say that one is inherently as valid as the other, merely that the sentiment comes from the same place.


one of them is more valid. the one that doesn't involve oppressing minorities and women to maintain a status quo that happens to coincidentally keep power concentrated in the exact people who are the entire base and donating class of one of the 2 parties
 
2014-08-29 03:32:05 PM  
*RTFA*

MISOGYNY! REPORTED
 
2014-08-29 03:32:38 PM  
This reads like the Onion.
 
2014-08-29 03:34:30 PM  

James!: Holy ape shiatting christ.

A) A 35 year old single woman in chicago who owns her own home and has 100k in retirement already?

[www.slate.com image 568x374]

B) Women only support gay marriage because they're afraid they'll never get married themselves? Way to be a dick.


That graphic never fails to make me all stabby.
 
2014-08-29 03:36:46 PM  

James!: Holy ape shiatting christ.

A) A 35 year old single woman in chicago who owns her own home and has 100k in retirement already?


Is... is she hot? I'm asking for a friend...

suburban Chicago

Oh, nevermind then. My heart doesn't ride the Metra.
 
d23 [BareFark]
2014-08-29 03:36:56 PM  
When the GOP falls into a hole they can only dig deeper.

They seem to hit a new low DAILY now.
 
2014-08-29 03:37:34 PM  

Diogenes: Oh that's hysterical (no pun intended).

What's even better is that this Reno person can't even make a convincing argument to his own imaginary women.


Reno probably transfers the image of his "imaginary woman" onto a blow-up doll covered with duct tape patches that is currently hidden under a floorboard in his bedroom.
 
2014-08-29 03:37:48 PM  
A single McKinsey consultant voting for social programs because they feel vulnerable?

Wow. Soooo farking retarded.
 
d23 [BareFark]
2014-08-29 03:38:05 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Judging from the commercials here in Colorado(Udall/Gardner), you'd think abortion is the only and most important issue ever. Ugh.


It fills the time and lets them ignore the questions about how much quid pro quo they are going to do for their donors.
 
2014-08-29 03:39:32 PM  
Amanda Hess appears to be a perfect example of someone too biased to understand what's being said. Of course Republicans think women who vote Democratic are wrong and it's because they don't fully understand the Republican point of view. That is just common sense. Now the notion that women support Gay Marriage because they want to justify not being married to a dude is equally ludicrous, but Hess blasting Republicans for saying that they have opportunities and that female Democratic Voters don't truly understand Republican proposals is just ignorance based on bias and pretty much proves the point.
 
2014-08-29 03:40:48 PM  

THIS IS WHAT REPUBLICAN VOTERS ACTUALLY BELIEVE

 
2014-08-29 03:41:35 PM  
The people who need an image change are the young GOP straight men.

GOP Maintains Solid Hold on Youth That Already Look Like Old Men
http://www.theonion.com/video/gop-maintains-solid-hold-on-youth-that -a lready-loo,36778/
 
2014-08-29 03:43:46 PM  

Car_Ramrod: James!: Holy ape shiatting christ.

A) A 35 year old single woman in chicago who owns her own home and has 100k in retirement already?

Is... is she hot? I'm asking for a friend...

suburban Chicago

Oh, nevermind then. My heart doesn't ride the Metra.


We're so far apart and the trouble is that I can't take BART out to where you live. But I've got it all planned, we'll meet halfway and then we'll feel so grand when we're hand in hand.

Mr. T Experience solved the problem for you.
 
2014-08-29 03:44:26 PM  
A sucky blog post about some guy no one has heard of in a journal no one reads.

Gold, Jerry.  Gold.
 
2014-08-29 03:44:37 PM  

CanisNoir: Amanda Hess appears to be a perfect example of someone too biased to understand what's being said. Of course Republicans think women who vote Democratic are wrong and it's because they don't fully understand the Republican point of view. That is just common sense. Now the notion that women support Gay Marriage because they want to justify not being married to a dude is equally ludicrous, but Hess blasting Republicans for saying that they have opportunities and that female Democratic Voters don't truly understand Republican proposals is just ignorance based on bias and pretty much proves the point.


"Just ignore the dumb things we say and farking vote republican!"
 
2014-08-29 03:45:43 PM  
The central challenge facing the Republican party is that women-particularly single women and women who have graduated from college-are "barely receptive" to its policies, and are likely to consider the partybecause the party is "intolerant," "lacking in compassion," and "stuck in the past."

The republicans do not have a messaging problem. Their message is very, very clear.
 
2014-08-29 03:46:11 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: I still don't understand why the Democrats just don't take these things and bombard people with them on TV at every election.

The GOP's biggest enemy is themselves, and Democrats are too chickensh*t to take advantage of that. The average 'Murcan voter doesn't read Slate. Hell, I don't read Slate. Just put commercials of Republicans talking during episodes of Honey Boo Boo and Du[mbf*]ck Dynasty, and people might start to pull their head out of their ass.


Because there's no point.  Come election time, do you honestly believe anyone is still on the fence regarding which party they're going to vote for?  Anyone with at least more than a rudimentary medulla oblongata realizes that the decision-makers in the GOP are farking crazy.  We already know they're out of touch with women, minorities, gays, civil rights, social programs, and science in general.  It would be the same as the GOP using "We Built This" as the entire theme of their 2012 convention.  Everyone with a brain knew the quote was taken out of context and it didn't help the party in the least.
 
2014-08-29 03:46:28 PM  
namatad:

it's the never ending "higher ground" .... sigh
makes me crazy



There's a line between "higher ground" and "the inaction of good men".

I can't in good conscience vote Republican, but the Democrats' inability to communicate the severity of Republican stupidity and evil is downright depressing.
 
2014-08-29 03:47:33 PM  
'Nine times out of ten, a "transgendered" individual would be far happier if he or she were simply told, with effective authority-you're a boy or girl.'

Reposted without comment
 
2014-08-29 03:47:52 PM  
I love the GOP belief that women, black folks, Hispanics and gays just don't fully understand GOP policies. IF they did, they would happily vote for Republicans in large numbers.

No, assholes, they understand it just fine. You've done an excellent job showing the country what your beliefs are since 2009.
 
2014-08-29 03:48:25 PM  
"Nine times out of ten, a "transgendered" individual would be far happier if he or she were simply told, with effective authority-you're a boy or girl."

http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firs tthoughts/2014/08/the-dilemma-fa c ing-social-conservatives

That's a conservative for ya.
 
2014-08-29 03:49:36 PM  
Is there a planet-wide facepalm anywhere?

Because all the other ones are too small and insufficiently epic.
 
2014-08-29 03:50:02 PM  

keylock71: I love the GOP belief that women, black folks, Hispanics and gays just don't fully understand GOP policies. IF they did, they would happily vote for Republicans in large numbers.

No, assholes, they understand it just fine. You've done an excellent job showing the country what your beliefs are since 2009.


The Southern Strategy didn't work so well outside of ... well .. the South.
 
2014-08-29 03:50:44 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: "Nine times out of ten, a "transgendered" individual would be far happier if he or she were simply told, with effective authority-you're a boy or girl."

http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firs tthoughts/2014/08/the-dilemma-fa c ing-social-conservatives

That's a conservative for ya.


I knew the GOP has a serious authoritarian bent, but good god is that insane.
 
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