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2014-08-29 06:50:28 AM  
Superhero comics are a child's game, old man.
 
2014-08-29 09:03:59 AM  
Nah, the cool old superheroes are gone since DC Entertainment destroyed the JSA.
 
2014-08-29 09:05:32 AM  
Superman and Batman have been around for 75 years, and Captain America / Green Lantern / The Flash / Wonder Woman are from around the same period. It's fun for all ages.
 
2014-08-29 09:24:01 AM  
There is no better way to display your lack of intellect than to openly admit to being a comic book nerd. Reading graphic novels on the train comes in a close second.

</elitist>
 
2014-08-29 09:29:22 AM  
Jon is a recurring guest on the Never Not Funny podcast. He once spoke about how he auditioned for Superman Returns (all the way back in 2004-05, whenever they would have been casting that) and was told he was "too old" for the part even then. I think he would be great in some superhero role, but I can see it being unlikely he'll ever be cast as one...especially given the current model of signing actors to a 3-5 movie deal that could be spread out over a decade.
 
2014-08-29 09:36:06 AM  

H31N0US: There is no better way to display your lack of intellect than to openly admit to being a comic book nerd. Reading graphic novels on the train comes in a close second.

</elitist>



    ^^^^^^^ You misspelled "jackass."
 
2014-08-29 09:38:43 AM  
I could see him pulling off a fairly decent Dr. Strange actually
 
2014-08-29 09:38:46 AM  

H31N0US: There is no better way to display your lack of intellect than to openly admit to being a comic book nerd. Reading graphic novels on the train comes in a close second.

</elitist>


Then I guess I'm a dumbass...a dumbass general manager of a 100000 a year business, with a staff of 15, on average. With two daughters, yes, DAUGHTERS, who are on their way to becoming comic book nerds as well. There is as much variance in literary quality in comic books as there is in literature. (See Twilight, women's lit like Harlequin, pulp novels...I could go on.)

But, yeah...there are elitists (aka a-holes) of every stripe, so I am never surprised when someone shows up in a comic thread saying that adults shouldn't like them.

Of course, adults who like them shouldn't be a-holes about it, either. THAT is what alienates kids from reading them. THAT is the value of the cheap, copypasta books...they read them, get bored with them, try to find something that they enjoy. The Twilights are valuable in only one aspect: They let you see what bad is so that when you discover something good, you can recognize it.
 
2014-08-29 09:39:11 AM  
Jim Corrigan.
 
2014-08-29 09:40:29 AM  

Ronin Around: I could see him pulling off a fairly decent Dr. Strange actually


Punisher who's been at it a while.
 
2014-08-29 09:41:57 AM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: Superhero comics are a child's game, old man.


No, no they're not. Some time in the 80's or 90's the comics started, 'growing' or 'maturing' or however you want to put it, with the readers. They left the actual kids behind with the TV cartoon versions.

So now their main readership are in their 30's and 40's and the comics are stuck being written for them by writer's who also are part of this generation.
 
2014-08-29 09:48:50 AM  
Should follow the adventures of Jerry Attrix.  The man with unbreakable hips!
 
2014-08-29 09:53:15 AM  

Decillion: SockMonkeyHolocaust: Superhero comics are a child's game, old man.

No, no they're not. Some time in the 80's or 90's the comics started, 'growing' or 'maturing' or however you want to put it, with the readers. They left the actual kids behind with the TV cartoon versions.

So now their main readership are in their 30's and 40's and the comics are stuck being written for them by writer's who also are part of this generation.


The direct market and writing for that audience is what has essentially killed comic books.

Sure, the DM saved comics at first, but it's also what marginalized the form.
 
2014-08-29 09:55:56 AM  

PizzaJedi81: H31N0US: There is no better way to display your lack of intellect than to openly admit to being a comic book nerd. Reading graphic novels on the train comes in a close second.

</elitist>

Then I guess I'm a dumbass...a dumbass general manager of a 100000 a year business, with a staff of 15, on average. With two daughters, yes, DAUGHTERS, who are on their way to becoming comic book nerds as well. There is as much variance in literary quality in comic books as there is in literature. (See Twilight, women's lit like Harlequin, pulp novels...I could go on.)

But, yeah...there are elitists (aka a-holes) of every stripe, so I am never surprised when someone shows up in a comic thread saying that adults shouldn't like them.

Of course, adults who like them shouldn't be a-holes about it, either. THAT is what alienates kids from reading them. THAT is the value of the cheap, copypasta books...they read them, get bored with them, try to find something that they enjoy. The Twilights are valuable in only one aspect: They let you see what bad is so that when you discover something good, you can recognize it.


How do you pay 15 people on 100k a year? You forget a couple 0's or is the business in Viet Nam?
 
2014-08-29 09:58:18 AM  
He could be The Terror from the tick cartoon.

/Villian though
 
2014-08-29 09:58:24 AM  

H31N0US: How do you pay 15 people on 100k a year? You forget a couple 0's or is the business in Viet Nam?


National chain restaurant. 80% are waitstaff paid $2.13/hour. But way to grasp on to the least relevant thing in my post. Cheers.
 
2014-08-29 10:00:33 AM  

Felix_T_Cat: He could be The Terror from the tick cartoon.

/Villian though


Pfft...he could be the Tick...or the Flaming Carrot.
 
2014-08-29 10:02:35 AM  

PizzaJedi81: H31N0US: How do you pay 15 people on 100k a year? You forget a couple 0's or is the business in Viet Nam?

National chain restaurant. 80% are waitstaff paid $2.13/hour. But way to grasp on to the least relevant thing in my post. Cheers.


You're so touchy you don't even see the hook.... c'mon man!
 
2014-08-29 10:03:23 AM  
 
2014-08-29 10:06:07 AM  

DoughyGuy: You're so touchy you don't even see the hook.... c'mon man!


Well, the hook brings you back. On that you can rely.
 
2014-08-29 10:18:09 AM  

PizzaJedi81: Then I guess I'm a dumbass...a dumbass general manager of a 100000 a year business, with a staff of 15, on average.


Not as impressive as you think it is.

/Had to be that guy
//Proudly nerdish
 
2014-08-29 10:21:12 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: Nah, the cool old superheroes are gone since DC Entertainment destroyed the JSA.


Amen.
 
2014-08-29 10:21:33 AM  

KipKips: PizzaJedi81: Then I guess I'm a dumbass...a dumbass general manager of a 100000 a year business, with a staff of 15, on average.

Not as impressive as you think it is.

/Had to be that guy
//Proudly nerdish


Huh...I mathed badly...it's actually 800000 plus. In my defense...yeah, I got nothing.
 
2014-08-29 10:27:31 AM  
You know, give him eight more years, some grey hairs, and he could be an excellent Bruce Wayne if they ever decide to do a movie version of The Dark Knight Returns...
 
2014-08-29 10:28:47 AM  

PizzaJedi81: H31N0US: How do you pay 15 people on 100k a year? You forget a couple 0's or is the business in Viet Nam?

National chain restaurant. 80% are waitstaff paid $2.13/hour. But way to grasp on to the least relevant thing in my post. Cheers.


worldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com

Even if you *are* trolling, what a farking tool.  You come into the thread to lord your "graphic novel supremacy" over everyone and you're a freakin' manager of what, a Pizza Hut?  Come back when you've got a real job and a real life.
 
2014-08-29 10:31:16 AM  

H31N0US: There is no better way to display your lack of intellect than to openly admit to being a comic book nerd. Reading graphic novels on the train comes in a close second.

</elitist>


Congrats on reeling one in.
 
2014-08-29 10:32:02 AM  

PizzaJedi81: H31N0US: How do you pay 15 people on 100k a year? You forget a couple 0's or is the business in Viet Nam?

National chain restaurant. 80% are waitstaff paid $2.13/hour. But way to grasp on to the least relevant thing in my post. Cheers.


I am in finance. Money is relevant!

Anyway relax. Everybody needs something to distract from life's painful necessities. I prefer guitars, alcohol and other drugs, and the company of my family and friends...but I do have a soft spot for The Simpsons, South Park and other satirical nonsense. Comic books are no different.
 
2014-08-29 10:32:13 AM  

brigid_fitch: PizzaJedi81: H31N0US: How do you pay 15 people on 100k a year? You forget a couple 0's or is the business in Viet Nam?

National chain restaurant. 80% are waitstaff paid $2.13/hour. But way to grasp on to the least relevant thing in my post. Cheers.

[worldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com image 269x199]

Even if you *are* trolling, what a farking tool.  You come into the thread to lord your "graphic novel supremacy" over everyone and you're a freakin' manager of what, a Pizza Hut?  Come back when you've got a real job and a real life.


Oh, hey, look, it's one of my favorite people who gets argumentative over the littlest things. Let me see what I can say to get you even more riled up...

I got it...

It's a Waffle House, ma'am.
 
2014-08-29 10:32:15 AM  

fearmongert: You know, give him eight more years, some grey hairs, and he could be an excellent Bruce Wayne if they ever decide to do a movie version of The Dark Knight Returns..


The next, next reboot of The Fantastic Four?  Then the "whitewalls" on Reed Richards won't look so jarringly out of place.

/White Nick Fury?
 
2014-08-29 10:33:55 AM  

Sgt Otter: fearmongert: You know, give him eight more years, some grey hairs, and he could be an excellent Bruce Wayne if they ever decide to do a movie version of The Dark Knight Returns..

The next, next reboot of The Fantastic Four?  Then the "whitewalls" on Reed Richards won't look so jarringly out of place.

/White Nick Fury?


If, as I mentioned before, DC hadn't destroyed the JSA, Hamm would have made a decent Wildcat or Jay Garrick.
 
2014-08-29 10:35:55 AM  

brigid_fitch: PizzaJedi81: H31N0US: How do you pay 15 people on 100k a year? You forget a couple 0's or is the business in Viet Nam?

National chain restaurant. 80% are waitstaff paid $2.13/hour. But way to grasp on to the least relevant thing in my post. Cheers.

[worldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com image 269x199]

Even if you *are* trolling, what a farking tool.  You come into the thread to lord your "graphic novel supremacy" over everyone and you're a freakin' manager of what, a Pizza Hut?  Come back when you've got a real job and a real life.


And his blog sucks!
 
2014-08-29 10:36:00 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: If, as I mentioned before, DC hadn't destroyed the JSA, Hamm would have made a decent Wildcat or Jay Garrick.


He has a better build for the boxer, not the runner...but that's just my opinion.

Captain Marvel? Shazam-style.
 
2014-08-29 10:41:19 AM  

PizzaJedi81: H31N0US: How do you pay 15 people on 100k a year? You forget a couple 0's or is the business in Viet Nam?

National chain restaurant. 80% are waitstaff paid $2.13/hour. But way to grasp on to the least relevant thing in my post. Cheers.


Ha!
+1
 
2014-08-29 10:43:25 AM  
I'd really love to see Jon Hamm as Varian Wrynn.
 
2014-08-29 10:46:28 AM  

PizzaJedi81: FirstNationalBastard: If, as I mentioned before, DC hadn't destroyed the JSA, Hamm would have made a decent Wildcat or Jay Garrick.

He has a better build for the boxer, not the runner...but that's just my opinion.

Captain Marvel? Shazam-style.


Don Draper vs. Rocky Maivia in a Shazam movie.

/in an Elseworlds where DC knew how to make movies, of course.
 
2014-08-29 10:48:15 AM  
Put some gray in your hair, John, and then pitch this:

img2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-08-29 10:53:16 AM  
I think the world is ready for a live action movie of this.

qe-design.com
 
2014-08-29 11:00:11 AM  

under a mountain: I think the world is ready for a live action movie of this.

[qe-design.com image 359x239]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwJaELXadKo

You're welcome.
 
2014-08-29 11:05:20 AM  

under a mountain: I think the world is ready for a live action movie of this.

[qe-design.com image 359x239]


CAPTAIN PLANET!

This one was a little darker.

I know... not live action... but still funny.
 
2014-08-29 11:06:37 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: Sgt Otter: fearmongert: You know, give him eight more years, some grey hairs, and he could be an excellent Bruce Wayne if they ever decide to do a movie version of The Dark Knight Returns..

The next, next reboot of The Fantastic Four?  Then the "whitewalls" on Reed Richards won't look so jarringly out of place.

/White Nick Fury?

If, as I mentioned before, DC hadn't destroyed the JSA, Hamm would have made a decent Wildcat or Jay Garrick.


Jon Hamm as Wildcat would be fantastic.

And if Fox wanted to be bold and try and ape the success of Guardians, he would make a good Corsair.
 
2014-08-29 11:12:04 AM  

nmrsnr: Put some gray in your hair, John, and then pitch this:

[img2.wikia.nocookie.net image 600x450]


Damn, was going to say this.  He would rock as an old bruce wayne.  Either doing this or, as mentioned earlier, Dark Night Returns.  There are plenty of others, too, mentioned in this thread.  Dr. Strange is viable choice. Jay Garrick.  There are also quite a few "secondary" anti-heroes in DC and Marvel that are interesting enough to warrant a treatment.  The Question, Dr. Fate,  Slade Wilson all come to mind.
 
2014-08-29 11:16:32 AM  

RyansPrivates: The Question,


I like this...plus, Hamm has a decent sense of comic timing. I'm sure he could play the jokier aspects of the character well enough to not violate DC's new "Let's NOT Make Money" rule.
 
2014-08-29 11:18:50 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: Sgt Otter: fearmongert: You know, give him eight more years, some grey hairs, and he could be an excellent Bruce Wayne if they ever decide to do a movie version of The Dark Knight Returns..

The next, next reboot of The Fantastic Four?  Then the "whitewalls" on Reed Richards won't look so jarringly out of place.

/White Nick Fury?

If, as I mentioned before, DC hadn't destroyed the JSA, Hamm would have made a decent Wildcat or Jay Garrick.


Jay Garrick would be an awesome choice.
 
2014-08-29 11:19:38 AM  
Kingdom Come Superman would be great too.
 
2014-08-29 12:15:45 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-08-29 12:31:00 PM  

RyansPrivates: nmrsnr: Put some gray in your hair, John, and then pitch this:

[img2.wikia.nocookie.net image 600x450]

Damn, was going to say this.  He would rock as an old bruce wayne.  Either doing this or, as mentioned earlier, Dark Night Returns.  There are plenty of others, too, mentioned in this thread.  Dr. Strange is viable choice. Jay Garrick.  There are also quite a few "secondary" anti-heroes in DC and Marvel that are interesting enough to warrant a treatment.  The Question, Dr. Fate,  Slade Wilson all come to mind.


You do remember that DC/WB are the stupid farks who can't figure out how to do a movie about a woman as strong as Superman with a patriotic costume who is a princess, and you think they could give a fair shake to The Question or Dr. Fate?
 
2014-08-29 12:39:14 PM  

saintstryfe: RyansPrivates: nmrsnr: Put some gray in your hair, John, and then pitch this:

[img2.wikia.nocookie.net image 600x450]

Damn, was going to say this.  He would rock as an old bruce wayne.  Either doing this or, as mentioned earlier, Dark Night Returns.  There are plenty of others, too, mentioned in this thread.  Dr. Strange is viable choice. Jay Garrick.  There are also quite a few "secondary" anti-heroes in DC and Marvel that are interesting enough to warrant a treatment.  The Question, Dr. Fate,  Slade Wilson all come to mind.

You do remember that DC/WB are the stupid farks who can't figure out how to do a movie about a woman as strong as Superman with a patriotic costume who is a princess, and you think they could give a fair shake to The Question or Dr. Fate?



Don't forget - woman whose pride is so strong it has been used against her in more than one occasion.

/just bring out her and Superman's little red-haired daughter already
 
2014-08-29 12:42:22 PM  
Depends on how good a shape he's in, but he could play Dr. Strange.  Given how awesome he is, it would be hard to make him someone low rent.  Maybe Hyperion?  Maybe Paladin if they could get someone good as Silver Sable?  It's tough, because he's such a whitey squarechin.  Maybe Namor?
 
2014-08-29 12:47:01 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Decillion: SockMonkeyHolocaust: Superhero comics are a child's game, old man.

No, no they're not. Some time in the 80's or 90's the comics started, 'growing' or 'maturing' or however you want to put it, with the readers. They left the actual kids behind with the TV cartoon versions.

So now their main readership are in their 30's and 40's and the comics are stuck being written for them by writer's who also are part of this generation.

The direct market and writing for that audience is what has essentially killed comic books.

Sure, the DM saved comics at first, but it's also what marginalized the form.


The problem in general is lack of accessibility. I grew up in the 80s and early 90s reading a handful of DC titles (Superman, Batman, and JLA) because that's what my dad read when he was growing up (he was into comics from the last few years of Golden Age through the first decade or so of Silver). When he was young, in the 40s and 50s, every young boy read at least a handful of comics at some point, even if it was second-hand from a friend or off the store rack. Fast forward 60 years; while a lot of "nerdy" things have become part of mainstream culture, including comic book characters as viable mainstream movie franchises, I don't think as big a percentage of people are reading comics.

I think there's several reasons for this - comics are more expensive, there's more forms of entertainment competing for time and money, and it can be difficult to find an entry point given the wide variety. I can understand why a young person doesn't get as enthused.

And of course the die-hard comic crowd doesn't help much; even as "nerdy" cultural elements become more mainstream, there seems to be a bit of wagon-circling among the "hard-core" crowd (the ones that generally have trouble with social skills). I'll be honest; there were two places in my city to buy comics for years, a hobby/gaming/comic store and a Books-A-Million. I had no desire to shop at either one, because I didn't like dealing with many of the regulars (the friendly local hobby shop also had a real hard time understanding the "friendly" concept). Heck, Mrs. Samurai has bought way more comics than I have in the last five years, and she hated going in there as much as I did.
 
2014-08-29 02:05:01 PM  

PizzaJedi81: brigid_fitch: PizzaJedi81: H31N0US: How do you pay 15 people on 100k a year? You forget a couple 0's or is the business in Viet Nam?

National chain restaurant. 80% are waitstaff paid $2.13/hour. But way to grasp on to the least relevant thing in my post. Cheers.

[worldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com image 269x199]

Even if you *are* trolling, what a farking tool.  You come into the thread to lord your "graphic novel supremacy" over everyone and you're a freakin' manager of what, a Pizza Hut?  Come back when you've got a real job and a real life.

Oh, hey, look, it's one of my favorite people who gets argumentative over the littlest things. Let me see what I can say to get you even more riled up...

I got it...

It's a Waffle House, ma'am.


I would have played the "top shelf pussy" angle, friend, but my posts aren't usually as entertaining as yours. Your sentiment was sound in the OP.
 
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