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2014-08-29 11:08:00 AM  
My kids call it Duck Duck Grey Goose.
 
2014-08-29 12:11:24 PM  
At my sister's wedding, my mom got the brilliant idea to buy sparkling apple cider for the kids and serve it in champagne glasses so they could toast with the grownups.  Naturally, that just meant that kids were wandering from table to table drinking out of unattended champagne glasses with actual alcohol in them and we had about 10 tipsy kids playing tag in the hallway.
 
2014-08-29 12:44:02 PM  
Can we get a ruling from the cultures that never went through prohibition please?
 
2014-08-29 01:10:58 PM  
I had plenty of sips from my parents' glasses when I was a kid. Of course my dad drank Coors and my mom drank white wine, both things I can't stand now. I drink myself, but because I enjoy the flavor of the things that I drink
 
2014-08-29 01:16:38 PM  
My really young cousin was staying with us over New Years Eve when my folks were having a party.  He was going from person to person getting sips and no one was keeping track.

He slept until 1pm the next day.

I'd say this explains why he is who he is today, but I'm fairly certain he was going to be a farkup regardless of that incident.
 
2014-08-29 01:54:32 PM  
Does sipping a parent's alcoholic drink harm a child

If I catch some kid drinking my beer, I'm gonna belt the hell out of the little bastard, so...yeah.
 
2014-08-29 02:02:01 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Does sipping a parent's alcoholic drink harm a child

If I catch some kid drinking my beer, I'm gonna belt the hell out of the little bastard, so...yeah.


You are missing the benefits. My kids are happy to run downstairs to the bar and get daddy a refill. Sure, I might get only 15.75 ounces, but I don't have to make the trip.
 
2014-08-29 02:02:20 PM  
Oh, the old pull tap beer cans.

Thanks dad, miss you.
 
2014-08-29 02:04:53 PM  

ArkAngel: I had plenty of sips from my parents' glasses when I was a kid. Of course my dad drank Coors and my mom drank white wine, both things I can't stand now. I drink myself, but because I enjoy the flavor of the things that I drink


"White wine" can mean a lot of things, some of which can be very tasty.  There's no hope for Coors, though.
 
2014-08-29 02:06:13 PM  

SundaesChild: At my sister's wedding, my mom got the brilliant idea to buy sparkling apple cider for the kids and serve it in champagne glasses so they could toast with the grownups.  Naturally, that just meant that kids were wandering from table to table drinking out of unattended champagne glasses with actual alcohol in them and we had about 10 tipsy kids playing tag in the hallway.


This has happened to every persons wedding I've ever attended.
 
2014-08-29 02:06:24 PM  
I drink socially now, and went through a heavier drinking phase in my twenties, but when I was a kid I took things like DARE and such super seriously. My father, who drinks perhaps a beer a year, took me to a BBQ with his friends. He was drinking a Bud Light or something. I was like 4 or 5, and I see him doing this. I run up as fast as I can and knock the beer out of his hand, telling him beer can hurt him and he would crash the car on the way home.
 
2014-08-29 02:07:29 PM  
When my niece was a toddler, she would take sips of her dad's beer. Sometimes they turned into gulps.
 
2014-08-29 02:08:41 PM  

Lord Dimwit: I drink socially now, and went through a heavier drinking phase in my twenties, but when I was a kid I took things like DARE and such super seriously. My father, who drinks perhaps a beer a year, took me to a BBQ with his friends. He was drinking a Bud Light or something. I was like 4 or 5, and I see him doing this. I run up as fast as I can and knock the beer out of his hand, telling him beer can hurt him and he would crash the car on the way home.


Meanwhile at my house, after my father finished the can of beer and there were only a few drops left, he'd give it to one of the kids. I thought beer tasted like water until I was a teenager.
 
2014-08-29 02:19:31 PM  

Lord Dimwit: I drink socially now, and went through a heavier drinking phase in my twenties, but when I was a kid I took things like DARE and such super seriously. My father, who drinks perhaps a beer a year, took me to a BBQ with his friends. He was drinking a Bud Light or something. I was like 4 or 5, and I see him doing this. I run up as fast as I can and knock the beer out of his hand, telling him beer can hurt him and he would crash the car on the way home.


I was a well-programmed kid, also.

Then I went to college.  After that it's all been a blur. ;-)
 
2014-08-29 02:28:06 PM  
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2014-08-29 02:32:47 PM  
Ah, Cold Duck. The only wine my mom would entertain drinking. And then only at the holidays. A tee-totaler wash she. I got the taste for intoxicating liquors from the Slavic side of the family, it seems
 
2014-08-29 02:35:00 PM  
When I was about 7 or 8 we went to a New Year's Eve party at a neighbor's house.  There were like 40 people there all getting pretty hammered.  Everyone thought it would be cute to give the little kid (me) a "sip or two" of champagne in my champagne glass.  Well, after about 40 or so "sips or two" I'm pretty sure this was the first time I'd ever gotten drunk.  I just remember feeling AMAZING...and when we got home I stayed up in my room until the sun rose.

/good times
 
2014-08-29 02:41:45 PM  

Minus1Kelvin: When I was about 7 or 8 we went to a New Year's Eve party at a neighbor's house.  There were like 40 people there all getting pretty hammered.  Everyone thought it would be cute to give the little kid (me) a "sip or two" of champagne in my champagne glass.  Well, after about 40 or so "sips or two" I'm pretty sure this was the first time I'd ever gotten drunk.  I just remember feeling AMAZING...and when we got home I stayed up in my room until the sun rose.

/good times


Staying up all night is not typical of being drunk...were there...uh...'sugar' bowls at this party as well?

;)
 
2014-08-29 02:43:20 PM  

timujin: ArkAngel: I had plenty of sips from my parents' glasses when I was a kid. Of course my dad drank Coors and my mom drank white wine, both things I can't stand now. I drink myself, but because I enjoy the flavor of the things that I drink

"White wine" can mean a lot of things, some of which can be very tasty.  There's no hope for Coors, though.


Coors Light, yes. Coors Original, no.
 
2014-08-29 02:46:10 PM  
My mother avoids alcohol because she was "out of control for two and a quarter years while pregnant and never wants to be again", and my father was forced into being a closeted drinker in order to have a glass of wine with dinner or a beer on a weekend while we were kids.

I had sips of champagne at weddings, and beer in New York with my Aunt growing up.  I didn't enjoy either, and didn't partake of alcohol until I was 23 or so.  My then girlfriend now wife got me some real beer, and we went on a real wine tasting in California and I learned to appreciate wine and beer as drinks, not as ways to get drunk.

Now I home brew and have around two drinks or so a week.

Sips aren't going to make your kid an alcoholic.  Forcing someone into the closet isn't going to protect your kids (we knew).  Making sure that they understand and respect alcohol the same way you make them understand and respect cars on their bikes or while driving will help them.
 
2014-08-29 02:48:09 PM  
IIRC, in college, it was the kids who had never been allowed to drink at home who went nuts the first semester, and drank themselves into flunking out.
 
2014-08-29 02:49:42 PM  
Hell growing up we were not only allowed sips but from about age 5 on we had our own special wine glasses whenever the Table was set for a special occasion.   Now, granted for the younder kids this was a cordial glass, but we didn't know that.    I can literally count on one hand the number of time I have even been drunk in my entire adult life.  (and one of those time was a deliberate attempt to find my tolerance.  I got bored after my 18th 12 oz cup of bud light with no appreciable effect-at least not fo a little while)
 
2014-08-29 02:49:52 PM  

Brainsick: Minus1Kelvin: When I was about 7 or 8 we went to a New Year's Eve party at a neighbor's house.  There were like 40 people there all getting pretty hammered.  Everyone thought it would be cute to give the little kid (me) a "sip or two" of champagne in my champagne glass.  Well, after about 40 or so "sips or two" I'm pretty sure this was the first time I'd ever gotten drunk.  I just remember feeling AMAZING...and when we got home I stayed up in my room until the sun rose.

/good times

Staying up all night is not typical of being drunk...were there...uh...'sugar' bowls at this party as well?

;)


I dunno...I just kind of figured in retrospect that alcohol may have had a paradoxical effect on me at that age.  Stuff like that happens to kids when they take various prescription drugs sometimes too.
 
2014-08-29 02:52:19 PM  

NkThrasher: My mother avoids alcohol because she was "out of control for two and a quarter years while pregnant and never wants to be again", and my father was forced into being a closeted drinker in order to have a glass of wine with dinner or a beer on a weekend while we were kids.

I had sips of champagne at weddings, and beer in New York with my Aunt growing up.  I didn't enjoy either, and didn't partake of alcohol until I was 23 or so.  My then girlfriend now wife got me some real beer, and we went on a real wine tasting in California and I learned to appreciate wine and beer as drinks, not as ways to get drunk.

Now I home brew and have around two drinks or so a week.

Sips aren't going to make your kid an alcoholic.  Forcing someone into the closet isn't going to protect your kids (we knew).  Making sure that they understand and respect alcohol the same way you make them understand and respect cars on their bikes or while driving will help them.


You've been around here long enough to know that sense and rational thought have no place here.
 
2014-08-29 02:53:14 PM  
my kids have all taken sips out of my beer. at toddler age, they all reacted in the negative and have stayed away from it since.


except for my middle son. he took a sip, thought about it, and went for a second one.

/that's my boy!

Sin_City_Superhero: Does sipping a parent's alcoholic drink harm a child

If I catch some kid drinking my beer, I'm gonna belt the hell out of the little bastard, so...yeah.


you sound nice and laid back.
 
2014-08-29 02:59:03 PM  

axemanking: You've been around here long enough to know that sense and rational thought have no place here.


Generally true, although Fark booze threads often times have tinges of them present.  Especially when it's about interacting with kids and alcohol.
 
2014-08-29 03:00:35 PM  
Alot a people in this thread drink for the taste. I wish I knew what you were talking about.
Drink to get drunk.
Then eat.
Then sleep.
 
2014-08-29 03:02:17 PM  
Coors is actually pretty tasty when it is fresh.  There is a bar in Golden that sells it at only a day or two old.

But it doesn't age or travel well.

That being said, when I was about 8 I was turned off beer by Coors that had been smuggled in a hot car trunk.  One sip and 'eww, how can you drink that?'
 
2014-08-29 03:02:28 PM  
Nope.

*hic
 
2014-08-29 03:15:49 PM  
When I was a kid in Michigan my parents and the neighbors would sit outside in the evenings and have beer and/or wine.

I remember them letting me have a sip, and I almost spit it out.  I could not understand why anyone would ever drink anything like that.

/happy hour yet?
 
2014-08-29 03:19:06 PM  

wichitaleaf: Alot a people in this thread drink for the taste. I wish I knew what you were talking about.
Drink to get drunk.
Then eat.
Then sleep.


If you're serious about wanting to know about it find yourself a wineo friend and see if you can attend a wine tasting with them, or a beer nerd friend and go to a beer tasting.

Sip things, swallow a bit of each, don't drink a whole glass/bottle of each at a go.  When you drink a while glass/bottle/pint of something it's hard to get a taste for it compared to other things.  Get two or three small glasses going at once and you can sip between them to get an idea of what's actually different.  Once you have that understanding, feel free to finish them all off in a grand fashion and get nice and drunk.

Then you'll know the difference between a pinot noir, merlot, and shiraz (all red, but all characteristically different).  Or the difference between a brown ale and red ale, or stout and porter, or IPA and PA, etc.
 
2014-08-29 03:29:17 PM  

buttery_shame_cave: Sin_City_Superhero: Does sipping a parent's alcoholic drink harm a child

If I catch some kid drinking my beer, I'm gonna belt the hell out of the little bastard, so...yeah.


you sound nice and laid back.


I'm fine until some snot-nosed little carpet-crab steals my booze.
 
2014-08-29 04:40:40 PM  
My mom and dad always had a gallon of Cribari under the dinner table in the kitchen. They gave me wine with supper as soon as I was able to hold a glass with one hand.

I have encouraged my grandchildren to sample whatever I'm drinking during food preparation. So far, they are all like, Ewwww.

Wait 'til their parents find out.
 
2014-08-29 04:52:25 PM  
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2014-08-29 04:53:27 PM  
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2014-08-29 04:54:13 PM  
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2014-08-29 04:57:17 PM  
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2014-08-29 04:59:29 PM  
My parents drink rarely to almost never. Christmas time, however, was a time for Grasshoppers, that beautiful minty ice cream blender drink with Crème de Mint and Cacao. We we always allowed to have a tiny glass of minty goodness from the time we were about 5 years old. (1985 for me) The alcohol content was probably negligible, but we thought it was pretty awesome back then. None of us are alcoholics now, even though it does run in both sides of our family. I didn't get drunk for the first time till I was 23, and that was pretty impressive considering I grew up in Wisconsin which has more bars than grocery stores. I don't drink at all today. My 2 siblings drink a tad more regularly, but nothing to write home (or rehab) about. None of us are sloppy drunks, or stupid college bro types that live to drink.

I think attitudes about drinking lie in how our parents presented them. I've seen kids of parents that vilified alcohol turn into drunk idiots the moment they escape their oppressive upbringing. On the other side my aunt and uncle were too permissive and allowed their 7 and 9 year old boys to drink full beers. One definitely has an alcohol problem, but that is due more to the abusive grandparent we had in our lives. (That's a whole other story but the damage to all of us was pretty deep emotionally.) The other brother is the party type that can't have fun without beer or weed. Their upbringing in general created kids that were unable to drink in moderation or with any kind of respectability.

My folks never made a big deal either way but we knew that overall that they personally didn't approve of drinking or going to bars. We did know that underage drinking outside of Christmas was a huge no-no and I think only my sister (the middle and slightly wild child) ever broke that rule. Once we were of age, our parents were a bit shocked that we decided to drink but never made an issue of it outside of a joke or two. Whatever they did, the three of us turned out pretty well in that area.
 
2014-08-29 04:59:50 PM  
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2014-08-29 05:29:59 PM  
What if headline had read:

"Does shooting  a parent's UZI harm a child, or just make Duck Duck Goose way more fun?"
 
2014-08-29 05:44:49 PM  
Does "sip" include communion wine?
 
2014-08-29 05:56:46 PM  

Son of Thunder: Does "sip" include communion wine?


Hah! No, that's Jesus' blood! Much more addicting and deadly
 
2014-08-29 06:53:53 PM  

edmo: What if headline had read:

"Does shooting  a parent's UZI harm a child, or just make Duck Duck Goose way more fun?"


I think that would actually be DUCK DUCK DUCK
 
2014-08-29 08:27:42 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Does sipping a parent's alcoholic drink harm a child

If I catch some kid drinking my beer, I'm gonna belt the hell out of the little bastard, so...yeah.


I think you are answering the question, "Does sipping an alcoholic parent's drink harm a child?"
 
2014-08-29 11:18:41 PM  
What they failed to mention in the article is that after the study, the parents who let their kids sip their drinks were promptly arrested for child engagement and carted off to jail.
 
2014-08-29 11:25:15 PM  
I'd think allowing kids to have a sip here and there would help demystify drinking and lead to more responsible drinking habits down the road.

My parents allow me and my siblings to occasionally drink small amounts of alcohol.  All three of us grew up and never had any issues drinking (like drinking too much, drinking and driving, etc).  Heck, my brother and I don't really drink at all, and I really only drink one glass on special occasions.

I remember in high school a lot of my friends went nuts every time they managed to obtain some alcohol, while it never mattered to me.  I could have just asked my dad if I wanted some.
 
2014-08-30 12:07:07 AM  

NkThrasher: wichitaleaf: Alot a people in this thread drink for the taste. I wish I knew what you were talking about.
Drink to get drunk.
Then eat.
Then sleep.

If you're serious about wanting to know about it find yourself a wineo friend and see if you can attend a wine tasting with them, or a beer nerd friend and go to a beer tasting.

Sip things, swallow a bit of each, don't drink a whole glass/bottle of each at a go.  When you drink a while glass/bottle/pint of something it's hard to get a taste for it compared to other things.  Get two or three small glasses going at once and you can sip between them to get an idea of what's actually different.  Once you have that understanding, feel free to finish them all off in a grand fashion and get nice and drunk.

Then you'll know the difference between a pinot noir, merlot, and shiraz (all red, but all characteristically different).  Or the difference between a brown ale and red ale, or stout and porter, or IPA and PA, etc.


The key is to memorize the wine lingo. Even experts have a hard time even differentiating white from red wine, so just say all red wine has hints of black current (or similar malarky) and the wine "afficinados" will not in agreement.

Blind study after blind study has shown that the #1 factor in enjoying a specific wine (or about any consumable) is the expectation that you will enjoy said wine.
 
2014-08-30 03:46:21 AM  

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Pro tip: Costco sells Grey Goose under the Kirkland label for less than 1/2 the price.

/ if you live in WA, get some in OR.
 
2014-08-30 01:37:19 PM  
Not only will this not harm your kid, I think it is better that way.  A person's first time drinking SHOULD be with their parents.  Sounds crazy?  It isn't.

Drink with your parents and learn how that alcohol is going to affect you and more importantly... learn your limits.  learn this in an environment where you aren't trying to impress anyone (because your parents are the least cool people in the world anyhow).  Plus doing it at home means you are doing in a safe location with no need to drive home after.

Instead most kids have their first alcohol among other stupid kids like themselves.  They go wild trying to outdo each other and without any supervision regarding anything else they want to do.  This is why you have so many young people die from alcohol poisoning.

The idea that YOUR kid is special and will never be out doing stupid things... very naive.  Be less worried about being the "moral authority" (which means nothing in practical terms) and more about doing what is best for your kid.  Your kids safety is more important than maintaining your denial or avoiding uncomfortable conversations.  Keeping them alive is job #1.

It is the same regarding sex as well.  Your kid WILL be having sex, and likely that will happen far younger than you want to accept.  So have the talk, get them the condoms you hope they don't need, get the HPV shot for your daughters when medical science says the best time to do so is (I believe this is around 9 years old), and get them birth control.

Some ignorant folks would call this "enabling."  It isn't.  Your kids ARE going to make mistakes no matter what you do or don't do... and plenty of them.  So the right thing to do is to make sure that after their mistakes they can still put their lives back together and actually HAVE a good future despite it all.
 
2014-08-30 02:15:33 PM  

bk3k: It is the same regarding sex as well.


I got worried when you shifted gears considering the advice you gave for alcohol, i.e. do it the first time with your parents, learn your limits, etc.

/i keed
//sweet dreams with that imagery
///good advice all around and well said
 
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