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2014-08-28 08:22:27 PM  
The trick is to recline just as soon as the attendant buckles in for taxi, before the guy behind you can install this thing.
 
2014-08-28 08:38:48 PM  
What could possibly go wrong?
 
2014-08-28 08:49:16 PM  
Next Fark headline: "Knee Defender fails to defend against severe facial assault."
 
2014-08-28 08:54:09 PM  

EvilEgg: The trick is to recline just as soon as the attendant buckles in for taxi, before the guy behind you can install this thing.


It looks like the tray table has to be down to install it, so your opponent will have to put it up for takeoff. My strategy will be to slam my seat back when I feel him release his tray table, and hopefully I'll crush a few fingers as he tries to install it.
 
2014-08-28 09:28:20 PM  
Should a crying baby tip the stewardess 20 percent if he uses a knee defender and puts his roller bag sideways above 7A when his seat is 24C?
 
2014-08-28 09:34:06 PM  
This is just assinine. Everyone has the right to recline, period, end of story.

Just three weeks ago, I thought I was being talked to by a Martian or a ghost when I reclined on Greyhound, and a voice behind me says "hey you should ask me before you recline". Good grief, in 40 years of riding Greyhound I did not get such a memo about who I have to ask permission from.
 
2014-08-28 09:55:56 PM  
Riding in a car while someone drives, never was asked not to recline.

/no one behind me either
 
2014-08-28 09:59:15 PM  
You guys saying people shouldn't use a knee defender are being whiny Americans, you need to think like a real merican instead and invent the Knee Defender Obliterator 3000
 
2014-08-28 10:26:03 PM  
My knees already jam into the back of the seat. You won't be able to recline on them without needing counter measures.

Also, I growl at people. I've got the looks and build to pull it off.
 
2014-08-28 10:27:08 PM  

Headso: You guys saying people shouldn't use a knee defender are being whiny Americans, you need to think like a real merican instead and invent the Knee Defender Obliterator 3000


That's no match for my  Knee Defender Obliterator Blocker 5000-X...
 
2014-08-28 10:33:08 PM  
If you see someone putting it on the back of your seat, just exclaim in a loud voice, "OH MY GOD HE'S ATTACHING SOME KIND OF FOREIGN DEVICE TO THE PLANE!"
 
2014-08-28 10:35:07 PM  
and they should throw the people who use them off the plane

in the middle of the flight
 
2014-08-28 10:59:35 PM  

Kevin72: Good grief, in 40 years of riding Greyhound I did not get such a memo about who I have to ask permission from.


That's...scary.
 
2014-08-28 11:00:28 PM  

bdub77: If you see someone putting it on the back of your seat, just exclaim in a loud voice, "OH MY GOD HE'S ATTACHING SOME KIND OF FOREIGN DEVICE TO THE PLANE!"


hitting the spice recently? you just know that is going to happen. Me, i see an opportunity for the airlines to sell pre-disabled seats to discounters and "guaranteed legroom" to the card clubbers.
 
2014-08-28 11:01:47 PM  
Knee Defender: Created by assholes, for assholes. Defend your asshole pride today(TM)!
 
2014-08-28 11:03:03 PM  

Kevin72: This is just assinine. Everyone has the right to recline, period, end of story.

Just three weeks ago, I thought I was being talked to by a Martian or a ghost when I reclined on Greyhound, and a voice behind me says "hey you should ask me before you recline". Good grief, in 40 years of riding Greyhound I did not get such a memo about who I have to ask permission from.


Does the 5 degree incline really up the comfort?
 
2014-08-28 11:04:13 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: EvilEgg: The trick is to recline just as soon as the attendant buckles in for taxi, before the guy behind you can install this thing.

It looks like the tray table has to be down to install it, so your opponent will have to put it up for takeoff. My strategy will be to slam my seat back when I feel him release his tray table, and hopefully I'll crush a few fingers as he tries to install it.


You can do a leg press on the seat back of the ox ahead of you and he won't even notice.  This gives you a serious advantage, and if properly timed, your adversary behind you a compound wrist fracture.

For airplanes in this millennium, It's about speed, agility, who can run the fastest, and who will win the fistfight (or worse with some of these bible carriers) on the concourse after the flight.

The trick I have learned is to be aggressive enough, soon enough, to claim your space on an airplane.
 
2014-08-28 11:05:03 PM  
Why would any airline tolerate a passenger interfering with the safety seating on the plane in any way at all?

Hell it is probably a federal crime or something.
 
2014-08-28 11:06:05 PM  
Anyone who reclines more than one or two clicks is a self centered piece of shiat

Anyone who buys and deploys a knee defender is a passive aggressive coward
 
Juc
2014-08-28 11:06:44 PM  
My knees are already preventing the seat in front of me from reclining, I figure this device just saves me from having people slam their seat back into me until I can tell them their seat isn't broken; but my legs will be if they keep that shiat up.
I'm only 6 foot 6, I shouldn't have the legroom problems of 7 foot tall guy
 
2014-08-28 11:08:09 PM  

LandOfChocolate: Anyone who reclines more than one or two clicks is a self centered piece of shiat

Anyone who buys and deploys a knee defender is a passive aggressive coward


THIS.
 
2014-08-28 11:08:11 PM  

cretinbob: and they should throw the people who use them off the plane

in the middle of the flight


How about giving them a swirly in the lavatory?
 
2014-08-28 11:08:19 PM  

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Knee Defender: Created by assholes, for assholes. Defend your asshole pride today(TM)!


The BAFA Knee Defender.  Accept No Substitutes.

/now in lime green for the discerning asshole!
 
2014-08-28 11:08:41 PM  
I look at this the same as fat people. If you're so obese that your lard rolls spill over into the seat next to you, then you should pay for two seats. Likewise, if you're so freakishly tall that your knees get crushed when the seat reclines, either buy the seat in front of you or fly first or business class.
 
2014-08-28 11:08:55 PM  
Reclining isn't that big a deal, but they'll definitely feel my knees that much more, everytime I shift around.
 
2014-08-28 11:11:45 PM  
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2014-08-28 11:12:43 PM  
Honestly, it's bullshiat that any "pay to ride" service has seats that recline period. I'll even say that within 10 years coach seats will be fixed pretty much across all carriers. Or they could adopt "size based" fares and seating which is how every other piece of air freight is treated. It's asinine that a 5 foot nothing 100 lb person should pay the same fare as a 6"3" 250lb individual. Weight and volume is what is needed to transport you, if you're bigger/heavier and need more space, pay the fark up.
 
2014-08-28 11:14:12 PM  
Solution is simple. You don't speak to the flight attendant.  You don't speak to the person behind you.  You just simply remove the devices from YOUR seat, sit back down in YOUR seat, and then recline YOUR seat.  Delivering the devices to the person behind you at the end of the flight is optional.
 
2014-08-28 11:14:34 PM  
passive aggressive twunts

If politely asked by the person behind me to not recline due to lack of room I'd almost certainly obey that and not recline. Why can't people simply talk to one another and sort shiat out like adults?
Also, who takes an umbrella on an airplane? I fly cross country monthly for my job and have never seen such a thing.
 
2014-08-28 11:15:29 PM  
How does it work on arrows?
 
2014-08-28 11:15:38 PM  

ScaryBottles: [img2.wikia.nocookie.net image 290x575]


You used to fly Business Class but then you took an A Row to the knee?
 
2014-08-28 11:16:06 PM  

MyRandomName: Kevin72: This is just assinine. Everyone has the right to recline, period, end of story.

Just three weeks ago, I thought I was being talked to by a Martian or a ghost when I reclined on Greyhound, and a voice behind me says "hey you should ask me before you recline". Good grief, in 40 years of riding Greyhound I did not get such a memo about who I have to ask permission from.

Does the 5 degree incline really up the comfort?


Is that the same 5 degrees that is completely encroaching on the space of the seat behind it?
 
2014-08-28 11:16:22 PM  
Seats shouldnt even recline. Its a very slight increase of comfort at the expense of major discomfort for whoevers behind you, if you recline, youre an asshole. This may not apply in first class, but ive never flown first class.

Last flight i was on, my seat was broken and wouldnt lock, i apologized profusely to the guy behind me before and after the flight, and got quite the ab workout during trying not to recline. My window was also broken, farking air tran...
 
2014-08-28 11:22:53 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: MyRandomName: Kevin72: This is just assinine. Everyone has the right to recline, period, end of story.

Just three weeks ago, I thought I was being talked to by a Martian or a ghost when I reclined on Greyhound, and a voice behind me says "hey you should ask me before you recline". Good grief, in 40 years of riding Greyhound I did not get such a memo about who I have to ask permission from.

Does the 5 degree incline really up the comfort?

Is that the same 5 degrees that is completely encroaching on the space of the seat behind it?


Many times yes. Ever have a laptop open?
 
2014-08-28 11:24:01 PM  
Anybody who thinks those couple inches of incline don't matter has never done the 14 hour death march from Tokyo to Detroit.

I'll tell anybody on that flight to fark off in the language of his choice if he thinks he's stopping me from reclining.
 
2014-08-28 11:24:10 PM  

oukewldave: Reclining isn't that big a deal, but they'll definitely feel my knees that much more, everytime I shift around.


Ehh, I just pull myself up with the headrest and blow on the top of the person's head as I do my hourly stumble to the lavatory.
 
2014-08-28 11:27:35 PM  
Knee Defender sales surge on news that Knee Defender triggers air rage


Did anybody *not* see that coming?
 
2014-08-28 11:28:04 PM  
So a device that is banned on planes and will, in fact, get your sorry ass thrown off of the plane, is seeing a surge in sales?  We need a list of these people.  We can call the list "Morons".
 
2014-08-28 11:28:09 PM  
 Is this the thread where tall people claim that the recline button is for decorative purposes only?
 
2014-08-28 11:30:58 PM  

Kevin72: This is just assinine. Everyone has the right to recline, period, end of story.

Just three weeks ago, I thought I was being talked to by a Martian or a ghost when I reclined on Greyhound, and a voice behind me says "hey you should ask me before you recline". Good grief, in 40 years of riding Greyhound I did not get such a memo about who I have to ask permission from.


It's been a while since I was on a bus, but I don't recall the seats reclining far enough to bother the person behind you. Or maybe 20 years ago, a Greyhound had more leg room than a modern airliner does.
 
2014-08-28 11:32:55 PM  
Yes.

/6'3" chick who hates plane rides checking in
 
2014-08-28 11:33:59 PM  

MyRandomName: Kevin72: This is just assinine. Everyone has the right to recline, period, end of story.

Just three weeks ago, I thought I was being talked to by a Martian or a ghost when I reclined on Greyhound, and a voice behind me says "hey you should ask me before you recline". Good grief, in 40 years of riding Greyhound I did not get such a memo about who I have to ask permission from.

Does the 5 degree incline really up the comfort?


Does the 5 degree incline really reduce the comfort when the seat in front of you is reclined?

I have back problems and the difference in comfort level between reclined and not reclined is substantial, just like with a car seat.  The chair is designed to recline and, by golly, it's my chair and I have every right to recline it.  Feel free to recline your own chair if you wish.
 
2014-08-28 11:35:17 PM  

omg bbq: passive aggressive twunts

If politely asked by the person behind me to not recline due to lack of room I'd almost certainly obey that and not recline. Why can't people simply talk to one another and sort shiat out like adults?
Also, who takes an umbrella on an airplane? I fly cross country monthly for my job and have never seen such a thing.


I can't biatch about that scenario online, acting like a human being is OUT.
 
2014-08-28 11:36:07 PM  
Since this gadget interferes with the safe egress from the aircraft during an emergency, it's going to be banned nationwide.
 
2014-08-28 11:36:18 PM  
6'2 with long legs and lower back problems.  Yes, that 5 degrees is a world of relief.  On the other side of the seat, despite my height, not once in 25 years of flying has someone reclining hurt my knees or caused me any discomfort. Anyone who would buy a knee defender probably also complains about second hand smoke outdoors or writes to the FCC about offensive language on TV shows they would never watch.
 
2014-08-28 11:36:39 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: MyRandomName: Kevin72: This is just assinine. Everyone has the right to recline, period, end of story.

Just three weeks ago, I thought I was being talked to by a Martian or a ghost when I reclined on Greyhound, and a voice behind me says "hey you should ask me before you recline". Good grief, in 40 years of riding Greyhound I did not get such a memo about who I have to ask permission from.

Does the 5 degree incline really up the comfort?

Is that the same 5 degrees that is completely encroaching on the space of the seat behind it?


Close. It's actually the 6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon.
 
2014-08-28 11:37:00 PM  
I am a reasonable man, WHen reclining, i do it slowly so as not to damage laptops, etc.
 
2014-08-28 11:37:05 PM  

Kevin72: 40 years of riding Greyhound


That's a lot of prison releases.
 
2014-08-28 11:37:56 PM  

MyRandomName: Benjimin_Dover: MyRandomName: Kevin72: This is just assinine. Everyone has the right to recline, period, end of story.

Just three weeks ago, I thought I was being talked to by a Martian or a ghost when I reclined on Greyhound, and a voice behind me says "hey you should ask me before you recline". Good grief, in 40 years of riding Greyhound I did not get such a memo about who I have to ask permission from.

Does the 5 degree incline really up the comfort?

Is that the same 5 degrees that is completely encroaching on the space of the seat behind it?

Many times yes. Ever have a laptop open?


I just can't wrap my mind around this. 5 degrees reclined from my seat will open a laptop. Or close it. Or for that matter someone trying to get work done on a laptop in a Greyhound or even a car.
 
2014-08-28 11:39:16 PM  

GetBent: Yes.

/6'3" chick who hates plane rides checking in


I could bungee jump off you.

;)
 
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