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(CNN)   45 people in Utah learn the hard way why pasteurization is a thing   (cnn.com ) divider line
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2014-08-28 12:27:27 PM  
In before the raw milk haters arrive.

Everything in life is a risk. While walking to the kitchen your cat or dog could trip you up, breaking your neck. Some drunk could take me out on my way to the post office.

Don't wanna drink raw milk? Don't.
 
2014-08-28 12:35:57 PM  
DUM DUM DUM DUM DUM
 
2014-08-28 12:37:47 PM  

John Buck 41: In before the raw milk haters arrive.

Everything in life is a risk. While walking to the kitchen your cat or dog could trip you up, breaking your neck. Some drunk could take me out on my way to the post office.

Don't wanna drink raw milk? Don't.


FINE! I WON'T!
 
2014-08-28 12:53:17 PM  
Has anyone here ever drank raw milk?  Is it better in some way?  Tastier?  Or is it to get enzymes or probiotics or some such?
 
2014-08-28 12:56:25 PM  
I like raw milk, if I know the person milking the cow and delivering the milk was careful. Otherwise, too risky.

I read a really fascinating account of the disease epidemics attributed to milk in US cities in the late 19th/early 20th century, but can't find the reference now. Suffice it to say that pasteurization was urgently needed and saved a lot of lives on implemented.

Wikipedia has this summary:

...improperly handled raw milk is responsible for nearly three times more hospitalisations than any other food-borne disease outbreak, making it one of the world's most dangerous food products. Diseases pasteurization can prevent include tuberculosis, brucellosis, diphtheria, scarlet fever, and Q-fever; it also kills the harmful bacteria Salmonella, Listeria, Yersinia, Campylobacter, Staphylococcus aureus, and Escherichia coli O157:H7, among others.
 
2014-08-28 01:09:13 PM  
What's seriously so bad about pasteurization that you'll risk serious illness to avoid it?
 
2014-08-28 01:11:14 PM  
I was assured by the raw milk lovers on my Facebook feed that not only was raw milk safe, but it was purity incarnate, unlike pasteurized milk which was a festering wasteland of pus, disease, and lactose.
 
2014-08-28 01:11:23 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: What's seriously so bad about pasteurization that you'll risk serious illness to avoid it?


Autism.
 
2014-08-28 01:14:29 PM  
Raw milk, like natural peanut butter, is completely disgusting. Those who offer them to you should be viewed as hostile and dealt with accordingly.
 
2014-08-28 01:16:05 PM  

Shostie: cameroncrazy1984: What's seriously so bad about pasteurization that you'll risk serious illness to avoid it?

Autism.


No, you're thinking of fluoridation.
 
2014-08-28 01:16:33 PM  

Shostie: cameroncrazy1984: What's seriously so bad about pasteurization that you'll risk serious illness to avoid it?

Autism.



Name one case of autism before Louis Pasteur.  I'll wait.  Also AIDS, Ebola, Persian Gulf Syndrome, bed bugs, and Nintendo Thumb.
 
2014-08-28 01:21:30 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: What's seriously so bad about pasteurization that you'll risk serious illness to avoid it?


Because pasteurization KILLS THE MILK, man!  Milk is a beautiful natural, nurturing food from Mother Nature, until the industrial complex gets hold of it and kills all the good parts, leaving only that crap they sell in plastic that feeds the medical-industrial complex.
 
2014-08-28 01:39:42 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: What's seriously so bad about pasteurization that you'll risk serious illness to avoid it?


the gov'ment say you should do it, therefore, it's evil.
 
2014-08-28 01:48:56 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: What's seriously so bad about pasteurization that you'll risk serious illness to avoid it?


This is taken from a link from my Facebook timeline earlier in the week.
"Milk, too, can be harmful to your health if it's not organic or raw. Conventional commercial milk is packed with impurities like pus, antibiotics and hormones which can cause a number of health issues. The pasteurization process releases unnaturally high levels of lactose, making people sick."

Just so you can see the logic behind "raw milkers".
 
2014-08-28 01:53:45 PM  

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: The pasteurization process releases unnaturally high levels of lactose


i.imgur.com
 
2014-08-28 01:54:01 PM  

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: The pasteurization process releases unnaturally high levels of lactose, making people sick.


How the hell does that work?
 
2014-08-28 01:55:55 PM  

James!: Angela Lansbury's Merkin: The pasteurization process releases unnaturally high levels of lactose, making people sick.

How the hell does that work?


It doesn't, if you know anything at all about chemistry.
 
2014-08-28 02:01:41 PM  
I can't believe no one has remarked on the brilliance of the link jpg.
 
2014-08-28 02:15:42 PM  

ricewater_stool: James!: Angela Lansbury's Merkin: The pasteurization process releases unnaturally high levels of lactose, making people sick.

How the hell does that work?

It doesn't, if you know anything at all about chemistry.


But if I make assumptions based on my lack of knowledge about chemistry then pasteurization clearly causes ball cancer.  Even in women, they grow balls and then those balls get cancer.
 
2014-08-28 02:19:39 PM  

MrBallou: Diseases pasteurization can prevent include tuberculosis, brucellosis, diphtheria, scarlet fever, and Q-fever; it also kills the harmful bacteria Salmonella, Listeria, Yersinia, Campylobacter, Staphylococcus aureus, and Escherichia coli O157:H7, among others.


I'm pretty sure some of those ones on the end are made up :P
 
2014-08-28 02:22:09 PM  
Rick Perry just read this and figured out that third agency to get rid of; FDA
 
2014-08-28 02:22:13 PM  
assets.diylol.com
and I grossed myself out
 
2014-08-28 02:22:27 PM  

James!: Even in women, they grow balls and then those balls get cancer.


I'm pretty sure just the "growing balls" portion would be considered cancer. The balls getting cancer after the fact is more of a cancerous cancer
 
2014-08-28 02:22:44 PM  
www.choppingblockfarm.com
 
2014-08-28 02:22:56 PM  
I can't be arsed to give much of a sh*t about the raw milk movement because believing strongly in things is against my MO generally, but I'd love to know how often people who drink raw milk/eat true raw milk cheese get food poisoning compared with people who eat undercooked beef.

And what's the difference from a "think of the children" standpoint?

I have a hard time understanding how it's anything but an arbitrary distinction, but I'm sure I could be persuaded otherwise.
 
2014-08-28 02:23:22 PM  
Before the raw milkies lose their shiat, if that's what they want, have at it. I like mine pasteurized, kthx.
 
2014-08-28 02:23:55 PM  
Missing plane news network.
 
2014-08-28 02:24:51 PM  

MrBallou: it also kills the harmful bacteria Salmonella, Listeria, Yersinia, Campylobacter, Staphylococcus aureus, and Escherichia coli O157:H7, among others


I believe all of that bacteria can develop in undercooked meat as well...what's the difference?
Honest question. Not looking for an argument.
 
2014-08-28 02:24:52 PM  
It's health-food -- it's supposed to make you sick.
 
2014-08-28 02:25:23 PM  

James!: ricewater_stool: James!: Angela Lansbury's Merkin: The pasteurization process releases unnaturally high levels of lactose, making people sick.

How the hell does that work?

It doesn't, if you know anything at all about chemistry.

But if I make assumptions based on my lack of knowledge about chemistry then pasteurization clearly causes ball cancer.  Even in women, they grow balls and then those balls get cancer.


Uhm, you talking about their ovaries?
 
2014-08-28 02:25:38 PM  
Raw milk, unlike some other forms of stupidity, can retroactively prevent you from procreating.
 
2014-08-28 02:26:07 PM  
You see, when I leave my milk products out at room temperature to spoil for hours or days at a time, I ONLY use pasteurized milk.

/loves me some yogurt, cultured buttermilk, villi, cream cheese made from those...yummmmm
 
2014-08-28 02:27:11 PM  
I drink raw cow's blood, fresh from the anus
 
2014-08-28 02:27:30 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-08-28 02:27:36 PM  

sigdiamond2000: MrBallou: it also kills the harmful bacteria Salmonella, Listeria, Yersinia, Campylobacter, Staphylococcus aureus, and Escherichia coli O157:H7, among others

I believe all of that bacteria can develop in undercooked meat as well...what's the difference?
Honest question. Not looking for an argument.


The difference is you tend to at least attempt to cook the meat (not counting Tartare.) No attempt to deal with bacteria is made with the milk in it's raw form, so that might be a difference.
 
2014-08-28 02:28:51 PM  

Chris Ween: Shostie: cameroncrazy1984: What's seriously so bad about pasteurization that you'll risk serious illness to avoid it?

Autism.


Name one case of autism before Louis Pasteur.  I'll wait.  Also AIDS, Ebola, Persian Gulf Syndrome, bed bugs, and Nintendo Thumb.


Don't forget Crohn's.  And gluten allergies.  And that the process of pasteurizing milk kills off a special kind of bacteria that helps people resist government mind control.
 
2014-08-28 02:29:44 PM  
i279.photobucket.com
 
2014-08-28 02:29:52 PM  

doyner: I can't believe no one has remarked on the brilliance of the link jpg.


Geotpf: Missing plane news network.


It's what got me to clicky.
 
2014-08-28 02:30:01 PM  

John Buck 41: In before the raw milk haters arrive.

Everything in life is a risk. While walking to the kitchen your cat or dog could trip you up, breaking your neck. Some drunk could take me out on my way to the post office.

Don't wanna drink raw milk? Don't.


Nice strawman you built
 
2014-08-28 02:30:01 PM  
Thanks Obama!
 
2014-08-28 02:30:16 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I drink raw cow's blood, fresh from the anus


cdn2.hellogiggles.com
 
2014-08-28 02:30:17 PM  
Past your eyes.
 
2014-08-28 02:31:04 PM  

sigdiamond2000: MrBallou: it also kills the harmful bacteria Salmonella, Listeria, Yersinia, Campylobacter, Staphylococcus aureus, and Escherichia coli O157:H7, among others

I believe all of that bacteria can develop in undercooked meat as well...what's the difference?
Honest question. Not looking for an argument.


Why do you hate rare steak?
 
2014-08-28 02:31:17 PM  
I want my milk irradiated, just in case superpowers are in the cards curds.
 
2014-08-28 02:31:35 PM  

John Buck 41: In before the raw milk haters arrive.

Everything in life is a risk. While walking to the kitchen your cat or dog could trip you up, breaking your neck. Some drunk could take me out on my way to the post office.

Don't wanna drink raw milk? Don't.


FTA: "What we've discovered is that an employee had not been thoroughly cleaning the udders of the cows," Larry Lewis with the Utah Department of Agriculture and Food told CNN affiliate KSL. "That is introducing contamination, manure and feces that are in that area into the milk, which is a major problem."

Sounds delicious.
 
2014-08-28 02:31:45 PM  

somedude210: James!: Even in women, they grow balls and then those balls get cancer.

I'm pretty sure just the "growing balls" portion would be considered cancer. The balls getting cancer after the fact is more of a cancerous cancer


www.geekbinge.com
 
2014-08-28 02:31:53 PM  

sigdiamond2000: MrBallou: it also kills the harmful bacteria Salmonella, Listeria, Yersinia, Campylobacter, Staphylococcus aureus, and Escherichia coli O157:H7, among others

I believe all of that bacteria can develop in undercooked meat as well...what's the difference?
Honest question. Not looking for an argument.


Most meat is cooked to kill of harmful bacteria, and those that are consumed raw are normally eaten as soon after butchering as possible (and are associated with higher risk of food poisoning).  Plus in meat,  bacteria is largely on the surface, not inside the actual meat, while with milk the entire product can be teaming with bacteria.  That's why ground meat usually needs to be cooked to a higher internal temp and longer than non-ground meat.
 
2014-08-28 02:32:15 PM  
But it makes total sense! Accidents happen, so everyone may as well juggle flaming chainsaws!
 
2014-08-28 02:32:31 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: What's seriously so bad about pasteurization that you'll risk serious illness to avoid it?


It's French. They need to call it Newtonizing or something
 
2014-08-28 02:32:36 PM  
But if I don't drink raw milk, the gubmint will use their mind controlling pasteurization technique to indoctrinate into the Super-Muslim Illuminati society of Kenya. Where they'll force me to fly planes and spread chem-trails. Or something like that.
 
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