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2014-08-28 06:11:18 PM  
OK, either this will be a massive flop, or Apple officially can sell anything just by sticking an "i" in front of the name and telling you you're a loser for not owning one.
 
2014-08-28 06:22:21 PM  
Do they have an iDouche yet or is that redundant?
 
2014-08-28 09:25:13 PM  

Mugato: Do they have an iDouche yet or is that redundant?


Those are awesome, because you can track your douchiness and share that information with your friends via Twitter and Facebook. As a matter of fact, I think it does so automatically; you can't make it not do that.
 
2014-08-28 09:27:17 PM  
So in two weeks Apple will invent the concept of the smartwatch, something no other company has even thought of yet, and it will the greatest thing since the last Apple "invention".
 
2014-08-28 09:30:08 PM  
only one will be made, and after two years of storage in a man's ass it will be released to its rightful owner.
 
2014-08-28 09:31:12 PM  
Will they come with pedometers? How many digits will fit on the screen?

//subtle?
 
2014-08-28 09:31:37 PM  

ultraholland: only one will be made, and after two years of storage in a man's ass it will be released to its rightful owner.


And it'll give a GPS map of everywhere it's been.
 
2014-08-28 09:36:05 PM  
Who wears a watch any more? Why would you want to strap something to your wrist when you can just carry it in your pocket? How quaint.
 
2014-08-28 09:38:48 PM  
Big Brother is iWatching you!
 
2014-08-28 09:39:35 PM  

taurusowner: So in two weeks Apple will invent the concept of the smartwatch, something no other company has even thought of yet, and it will the greatest thing since the last Apple "invention".


And it will have rounded corners(TM), so the circular watch makers had better prepare for the patent lawsuits, 'cause a circle is a rounded square
 
2014-08-28 09:46:12 PM  

bbqsandwich: Who wears a watch any more? Why would you want to strap something to your wrist when you can just carry it in your pocket? How quaint.


You should put an eyelet on that pocket device and attach a chain to it.
 
2014-08-28 09:50:36 PM  

taurusowner: So in two weeks Apple will invent the concept of the smartwatch, something no other company has even thought of yet, and it will the greatest thing since the last Apple "invention".


Or like, they'll release highly polished version of a product already available in the marketplace. Build quality and industrial design will clearly have been priorities in this product's development...

Some people will buy it for the "i" before the name....others will appreciate the design and features.

/obvious
 
2014-08-28 09:52:44 PM  

bbqsandwich: Who wears a watch any more? Why would you want to strap something to your wrist when you can just carry it in your pocket? How quaint.


I wish I was as awesome as you.

/you can have my watch when you pry it from my cold, dead wrist.
 
2014-08-28 09:53:56 PM  

Mugato: Do they have an iDouche yet or is that redundant?


Nahh, they buried him.
 
2014-08-28 10:08:52 PM  

bbqsandwich: Who wears a watch any more? Why would you want to strap something to your wrist when you can just carry it in your pocket? How quaint.


I don't know if you're kidding or not but someone actually said that to me in seriousness. Because reaching in your pocket, pulling out your phone, turning it on, looking at the time, turning it off and putting it back in your pocket is easier than glancing at your wrist. Besides, my watch is cool and has a laser.

/doesn't have a laser
 
2014-08-28 10:13:37 PM  
It was a century ago that men started wearing wrist watches, in the trenches. It took until now for everyone to go back to pocket watches in their smartphones. Now we're expected to go back on that?
 
2014-08-28 10:15:12 PM  

Mugato: Because reaching in your pocket, pulling out your phone, turning it on, looking at the time, turning it off and putting it back in your pocket is easier than glancing at your wrist.


You make that sound difficult. I manage to push a button as I pull my phone out so the screen is on when I look at it and them let the screen turn itself off as I put it back in my pocket. But just looking at my wrist is still easier. People tend to compliment me on my watches but they never say anything about my phone.
 
2014-08-28 10:15:25 PM  
I got a sun dial.
 
2014-08-28 10:21:25 PM  
Maybe I'm odd, but I care more about getting a phone with a larger screen than I do about a watch.
A watch is like one of the iProducts no ones ever asked for, ever.... seriously, they better explain why they bothered.
 
2014-08-28 10:28:26 PM  

way south: Maybe I'm odd, but I care more about getting a phone with a larger screen than I do about a watch.
A watch is like one of the iProducts no ones ever asked for, ever.... seriously, they better explain why they bothered.


Ask Samsung, Sony, Motorola why they rushed out watches on the rumor Apple was doing it?
 
2014-08-28 10:48:23 PM  

Mugato: bbqsandwich: Who wears a watch any more? Why would you want to strap something to your wrist when you can just carry it in your pocket? How quaint.

I don't know if you're kidding or not but someone actually said that to me in seriousness. Because reaching in your pocket, pulling out your phone, turning it on, looking at the time, turning it off and putting it back in your pocket is easier than glancing at your wrist. Besides, my watch is cool and has a laser.

/doesn't have a laser


Eh, I never wore a watch, even in the days before cell phones.  I found them too uncomfortable, but that's probably just me.  Even putting that weird reason aside, this doesn't seem like something I'd be interested in; pulling my cell phone out here or there to check the time (or any other duplicated functions) isn't a huge deal.
 
2014-08-28 11:03:11 PM  

wildcardjack: It was a century ago that men started wearing wrist watches, in the trenches. It took until now for everyone to go back to pocket watches in their smartphones. Now we're expected to go back on that?


The idea is for everybody to buy all new things every few years.
 
2014-08-28 11:25:56 PM  

taurusowner: So in two weeks Apple will invent the concept of the smartwatch, something no other company has even thought of yet, and it will the greatest thing since the last Apple "invention".


to be fair ... plenty of companies tried to corner the market on MP3 devices.  they were bullshiat until apple changed the world with the ipod -- microsoft was a player in this market -- had the lead in time -- didn't do shiat -- apple made the landscape.

following this up ... there were plenty of companies in over a 10 year period trying to corner the market on "smart phones" with apps ... some small successes, but nothing close to the iPhone -- which, yes, again ... change the world -- change the entire landscape of phones and how people use mobile devices.  Microsoft, again was a player with many years ahead of the game but had lame devices with no real abilities.

now? we have iPhone and android (and android really only because they saw iPhone ahead of time)

and ... well ... for over a decade there were companies trying to build tablets -- Microsoft and intel were, again, big players in this space, tried -- failed, tried again -- failed...

Ipad made that market -- game changer again.

they watch thing -- yeah -- from all I've seen -- Apple is going to kill it -- and your mom is going to want one as well as your kid.
 
2014-08-28 11:37:24 PM  

Herr Flick's Revenge: way south: Maybe I'm odd, but I care more about getting a phone with a larger screen than I do about a watch.
A watch is like one of the iProducts no ones ever asked for, ever.... seriously, they better explain why they bothered.

Ask Samsung, Sony, Motorola why they rushed out watches on the rumor Apple was doing it?


I have seen exactly one person wearing one, and he sells them where he works.

They're neat, but they're certainly not going to be ubiquitous, regardless of brand. Not wearing a watch is always more comfortable than wearing a watch, and I can't see a lot of people going back to strapping a tiny screen to their wrist all day when their phone is within sight most of the time anyway. They may sell moderately well at first, but I think the novelty of these will wear off quickly, they won't have the staying power of other iProducts.
 
2014-08-28 11:39:55 PM  

taurusowner: So in two weeks Apple will invent the concept of the smartwatch, something no other company has even thought of yet, and it will the greatest thing since the last Apple "invention".


Keep farkin' that chicken, TornAssOwner.
 
2014-08-28 11:49:12 PM  

Dragonflew: Herr Flick's Revenge: way south: Maybe I'm odd, but I care more about getting a phone with a larger screen than I do about a watch.
A watch is like one of the iProducts no ones ever asked for, ever.... seriously, they better explain why they bothered.

Ask Samsung, Sony, Motorola why they rushed out watches on the rumor Apple was doing it?

I have seen exactly one person wearing one, and he sells them where he works.

They're neat, but they're certainly not going to be ubiquitous, regardless of brand. Not wearing a watch is always more comfortable than wearing a watch, and I can't see a lot of people going back to strapping a tiny screen to their wrist all day when their phone is within sight most of the time anyway. They may sell moderately well at first, but I think the novelty of these will wear off quickly, they won't have the staying power of other iProducts.


I don't wear a watch.
I have never seen anyone with a smart watch.
I was responding to someone else who was wondering why Apple is allegedly making a smart watch.
Apple has not ever said they were making a wearable device at all.
I guess we will wait and see what Apple announces before we can judge.

I personally am tired of hearing about it.
 
2014-08-29 12:07:15 AM  

keithgabryelski: they watch thing -- yeah -- from all I've seen -- Apple is going to kill it -- and your mom is going to want one as well as your kid.


So is this a triumph of technology or a triumph of capitalism/marketing?
 
2014-08-29 12:07:19 AM  
The exact same prediction has appeared before every Apple event for years now.
 
2014-08-29 12:11:25 AM  

Herr Flick's Revenge: Dragonflew: Herr Flick's Revenge: way south: Maybe I'm odd, but I care more about getting a phone with a larger screen than I do about a watch.
A watch is like one of the iProducts no ones ever asked for, ever.... seriously, they better explain why they bothered.

Ask Samsung, Sony, Motorola why they rushed out watches on the rumor Apple was doing it?

I have seen exactly one person wearing one, and he sells them where he works.

They're neat, but they're certainly not going to be ubiquitous, regardless of brand. Not wearing a watch is always more comfortable than wearing a watch, and I can't see a lot of people going back to strapping a tiny screen to their wrist all day when their phone is within sight most of the time anyway. They may sell moderately well at first, but I think the novelty of these will wear off quickly, they won't have the staying power of other iProducts.

I don't wear a watch.
I have never seen anyone with a smart watch.
I was responding to someone else who was wondering why Apple is allegedly making a smart watch.
Apple has not ever said they were making a wearable device at all.
I guess we will wait and see what Apple announces before we can judge.

I personally am tired of hearing about it.


Apple tends to not announce they are going to make something. They always announce something they are already making will hit the stores in 2 weeks or whenever.
 
2014-08-29 12:21:53 AM  

Dragonflew: Herr Flick's Revenge: way south: Maybe I'm odd, but I care more about getting a phone with a larger screen than I do about a watch.
A watch is like one of the iProducts no ones ever asked for, ever.... seriously, they better explain why they bothered.

Ask Samsung, Sony, Motorola why they rushed out watches on the rumor Apple was doing it?

I have seen exactly one person wearing one, and he sells them where he works.

They're neat, but they're certainly not going to be ubiquitous, regardless of brand. Not wearing a watch is always more comfortable than wearing a watch, and I can't see a lot of people going back to strapping a tiny screen to their wrist all day when their phone is within sight most of the time anyway. They may sell moderately well at first, but I think the novelty of these will wear off quickly, they won't have the staying power of other iProducts.


Part of it is the ridiculous requirements. LG just announced a really nice looking watch that I would love to buy. The one thing that stops me is the watch runs Android Wear, which requires an Android phone to work, and I bought an iPhone only a few months ago. That watch would be completely useless to me, since it can't even tell time without an Android phone synced to it.
 
2014-08-29 01:11:00 AM  
two suggestions for any company that wants to make a successful smart-watch:

-circular and thin

-when idle, the watch face should look like an ordinary analog watch. similar to the ebook readers that you can read in the sunlight. white BG with black numbers and hands.

BG and FG colors could possibly be customizable (probably the font and the shape of the hands as well), but every current smart-watch looks like a piece of exercise equipment or some dick tracy fantasy.

unless the smartphone is actively interacting with the watch, it should look ordinary.
 
2014-08-29 01:50:43 AM  

bingethinker: taurusowner: So in two weeks Apple will invent the concept of the smartwatch, something no other company has even thought of yet, and it will the greatest thing since the last Apple "invention".

Keep farkin' that chicken, TornAssOwner.


christopherpatrickross.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-08-29 01:54:01 AM  
If they make it the color of a Starburst Fruit Chew like those mockups, most people won't wear one unless they lose a bet.
 
2014-08-29 02:57:49 AM  

jjorsett: If they make it the color of a Starburst Fruit Chew like those mockups, most people won't wear one unless they lose a bet.


Damn straight. I want gold or brushed stainless steel. It needs to look good i. A casual setting or when wearing a suit. If I wanted a watch that looks like a toy, I'd wear my son's Lego Star Wars watch.

/and if it's not waterproof or at least resistant, that's a deal breaker. So, probably no iTime for me.
 
2014-08-29 03:50:01 AM  
Personally, I'm looking forward to the Rufus Cuff.

It's of particular interest to me, because I'm a cripple; I'm either on crutches or in my wheelchair, and on crutches it's just plain easier and safer to use a smartwatch.
I've got a Sony Smartwatch, but it no longer plays nicely with my Nexus, so it's not much use to me any longer.
 
2014-08-29 05:19:36 AM  
Just in time to be 20 years too late to luxury watches being an element of fashion and 10 years too late to having as many or more functions available by pulling your phone out of your pocket!


dookdookdook: OK, either this will be a massive flop, or Apple officially can sell anything just by sticking an "i" in front of the name and telling you you're a loser for not owning one.


The iPod touch didn't really sell as well as expected (albeit, it sold about as well as any large-volume mp3 player at the time, which wasn't terrible) until they made it a phone.  iMac sales go up and down depending on how good the computers actually are, and aren't anywhere near cornering the PC market.

Basically, that branding rule hasn't ever really been an actual rule.  The most consistent seller is actually probably the various macbook series, not the more miniaturized series.  iPhone kind of stands alone as the mini brand with staying power on the Apple lineup.  This is why the watch thing's initial hype is pushing it as an iPhone accessory as much or more than a new product, despite the fact the you can probably synch it to more or less whatever, like every smart-watch.

// And yes, smart-watches have been a thing for most of a decade now.  Which is the other reason I'm not holding my breath on the sales for this one.
 
2014-08-29 05:59:31 AM  
I like how people in this thread are giving Apple advice on industrial design and on what the market wants.
 
2014-08-29 08:44:33 AM  

Sasquach: taurusowner: So in two weeks Apple will invent the concept of the smartwatch, something no other company has even thought of yet, and it will the greatest thing since the last Apple "invention".

Or like, they'll release highly polished version of a product already available in the marketplace. Build quality and industrial design will clearly have been priorities in this product's development...

Some people will buy it for the "i" before the name....others will appreciate the design and features.

/obvious


Jesus way to make me almost spit out my coffee. Build quality? What is this 1998? Apple uses the same components everyone else does, unless you think the case itself is the only thing that goes into "build quality."
 
2014-08-29 08:58:40 AM  

dookdookdook: OK, either this will be a massive flop, or Apple officially can sell anything just by sticking an "i" in front of the name and telling you you're a loser for not owning one.


iRon.
 
2014-08-29 09:35:22 AM  

Tobin_Lam: Part of it is the ridiculous requirements. LG just announced a really nice looking watch that I would love to buy. The one thing that stops me is the watch runs Android Wear, which requires an Android phone to work, and I bought an iPhone only a few months ago. That watch would be completely useless to me, since it can't even tell time without an Android phone synced to it.


Ridiculous requirements to you is having the same OS as the watch?  What are the odds that the iWatch will work on android?
 
2014-08-29 09:39:44 AM  

dookdookdook: keithgabryelski: they watch thing -- yeah -- from all I've seen -- Apple is going to kill it -- and your mom is going to want one as well as your kid.

So is this a triumph of technology or a triumph of capitalism/marketing?


The iWatch?  think about what use it could be ...

they've hired top guys in biological measurements -- so, heart rate, glucose, sleep, exercise measurements -- connected to the iphone for management.  Make the thing useful for everyday use, as well as bio management ...

I think there is room for Apple to make a product that will save people's lives (at least extend them) in the area of bio management.  A device people will actually use -- and pay attention to.

That is what I expect from a company that made these other cultural paradigm shifts when no other company could muster.

I suspect this will be more than a watch -- more than an extension of the iphone.

So, a triumph on ingenuity
 
2014-08-29 09:43:41 AM  

Tobin_Lam: Part of it is the ridiculous requirements. LG just announced a really nice looking watch that I would love to buy. The one thing that stops me is the watch runs Android Wear, which requires an Android phone to work, and I bought an iPhone only a few months ago. That watch would be completely useless to me, since it can't even tell time without an Android phone synced to it.


I'd be interested to see if Apple actually requires an iDevice as a host for this.  I'd love to see on the existing smart watch manufacturers (Pebble, perhaps) sue the shiat out of them if it has any of the same features (which it will).
 
2014-08-29 09:45:08 AM  

keithgabryelski: The iWatch? think about what use it could be ...

they've hired top guys in biological measurements -- so, heart rate, glucose, sleep, exercise measurements -- connected to the iphone for management. Make the thing useful for everyday use, as well as bio management ...

I think there is room for Apple to make a product that will save people's lives (at least extend them) in the area of bio management. A device people will actually use -- and pay attention to.

That is what I expect from a company that made these other cultural paradigm shifts when no other company could muster.

I suspect this will be more than a watch -- more than an extension of the iphone.

So, a triumph on ingenuity


Has a fourth appeared?
 
2014-08-29 09:47:15 AM  

Shakin_Haitian: Sasquach: taurusowner: So in two weeks Apple will invent the concept of the smartwatch, something no other company has even thought of yet, and it will the greatest thing since the last Apple "invention".

Or like, they'll release highly polished version of a product already available in the marketplace. Build quality and industrial design will clearly have been priorities in this product's development...

Some people will buy it for the "i" before the name....others will appreciate the design and features.

/obvious

Jesus way to make me almost spit out my coffee. Build quality? What is this 1998? Apple uses the same components everyone else does, unless you think the case itself is the only thing that goes into "build quality."


You seem to think that build quality encompasses only the provenance of the components. Perceived quality, that is to say things like screen/case gaps, fit/finish of adjoining surfaces, surface finishes, ect also fall into build quality. The vast majority of the components inside are commodity grade bits....you just need to be sure you don't get reject parts from Guangdong resistor factory #41...
 
2014-08-29 09:59:07 AM  
The timing of the iWatch (with biomedical sensors) along with their agreement with IBM to sell their products into the enterprise business market makes me suspect that this is all a conspiracy to monitor workers in general and their wrist activities in particular.  WAKE UP SHEEPLE!
 
2014-08-29 10:19:20 AM  
You can start dusting off the space next to Newton in the Failed Apple Technology Hall of Shame.
 
2014-08-29 10:29:27 AM  

mjbok: keithgabryelski: The iWatch? think about what use it could be ...

they've hired top guys in biological measurements -- so, heart rate, glucose, sleep, exercise measurements -- connected to the iphone for management. Make the thing useful for everyday use, as well as bio management ...

I think there is room for Apple to make a product that will save people's lives (at least extend them) in the area of bio management. A device people will actually use -- and pay attention to.

That is what I expect from a company that made these other cultural paradigm shifts when no other company could muster.

I suspect this will be more than a watch -- more than an extension of the iphone.

So, a triumph on ingenuity

Has a fourth appeared?


Fourth what fourth innovation that has changed the world?

For Steve Jobs you would add The NeXT Machine and OS -- which completely revolutionized how oses were written, applications were built (interface builder) and how interfaces were managed

I'd give Jobs another -- a true ux design and the reasons behind them -- that is a longer discussion
 
2014-08-29 10:50:10 AM  

keithgabryelski: Fourth what fourth innovation that has changed the world?


Fourth Fark Apple shill.
 
2014-08-29 11:03:22 AM  

Shakin_Haitian: Sasquach: taurusowner: So in two weeks Apple will invent the concept of the smartwatch, something no other company has even thought of yet, and it will the greatest thing since the last Apple "invention".

Or like, they'll release highly polished version of a product already available in the marketplace. Build quality and industrial design will clearly have been priorities in this product's development...

Some people will buy it for the "i" before the name....others will appreciate the design and features.

/obvious

Jesus way to make me almost spit out my coffee. Build quality? What is this 1998? Apple uses the same components everyone else does, unless you think the case itself is the only thing that goes into "build quality."


Apple does do a nice job on build quality. I have a new higher end ASUS notebook, and although the quality is nice, it's not anywhere near as good build quality of the MacBook Pro it replaced. If all fairness, it was almost half the price as a new comparable MacBook Pro.
So the build quality is there, even if it's the same basic components. You're just going to pay out the ass for that build quality.
 
2014-08-29 11:12:07 AM  
I wonder if Samsung will take Apple's previous actions as an example and sue Apple for copying the Gear Fit's basic shape and design ideas.
 
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