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2014-08-28 12:03:51 PM  
Trace the call back and arrest the pranker. Someone will get hurt on one of these.
 
2014-08-28 12:18:53 PM  

Aar1012: Trace the call back and arrest the pranker. Someone will get hurt on one of these.


It was a Skype call so that can be somewhat difficult depending on number of proxies etc.

You're right, someone will either get hurt on one of those pranks, or Law Enforcement will not take calls as seriously and the next thing you know, someone is killed because the LEO had to take extra steps for verification.
 
2014-08-28 12:26:50 PM  
Christ.  The things people will do for the lulz.

*facepalm*
 
2014-08-28 12:46:04 PM  
Someday they'll swat a guy with his own guns and you know the rest...
 
2014-08-28 12:55:12 PM  

Aar1012: Trace the call back and arrest the pranker. Someone will get hurt on one of these.


Consequences will never be the same.
 
2014-08-28 03:22:30 PM  

BizarreMan: Aar1012: Trace the call back and arrest the pranker. Someone will get hurt on one of these.

It was a Skype call so that can be somewhat difficult depending on number of proxies etc.


It was seven, it's always seven.
 
2014-08-28 03:26:58 PM  
It should be utterly impossible to "swat" someone anonymously.  If they can't verify the caller's identity, they should ignore it as an obvious prank and decline to do anything.
 
2014-08-28 03:28:27 PM  
How good can this swat training be if they bust into a room and think a dorky kid in headphones is worthy of this kind of take down?
 
2014-08-28 03:29:26 PM  

China White Tea: It should be utterly impossible to "swat" someone anonymously.  If they can't verify the caller's identity, they should ignore it as an obvious prank and decline to do anything.


yeah, but then how else can police forces launder illegally obtained information into anonymous tips?
 
2014-08-28 03:32:32 PM  

kilroy14: How good can this swat training be if they bust into a room and think a dorky kid in headphones is worthy of this kind of take down?


It's not their training that's kicking in, it's their lifelong jerkoff fantasy of getting to dress up in tacticool gear and bust some punk heads.
 
2014-08-28 03:33:21 PM  
This is becoming disturbingly common.
 
2014-08-28 03:39:53 PM  

China White Tea: kilroy14: How good can this swat training be if they bust into a room and think a dorky kid in headphones is worthy of this kind of take down?

It's not their training that's kicking in, it's their lifelong jerkoff fantasy of getting to dress up in tacticool gear and bust some punk heads.


Heh ... "Tacticool" ... Never heard that one

Also, so much THIS
 
2014-08-28 03:41:26 PM  

edmo: Someday they'll swat a guy with his own guns and you know the rest...


They fix the cable?
 
2014-08-28 03:41:33 PM  
Just pigs being pigs.
And when they whack someone's dog, or someone, they'll get a paid vacation.
F#ck 'em all.
 
2014-08-28 03:42:56 PM  

kilroy14: How good can this swat training be if they bust into a room and think a dorky kid in headphones is worthy of this kind of take down?


You've obviously never encountered a crazy person, the crazy level where they kill a bunch of people and then call the cops...sometimes they act, I don't know...unpredictable?

China White Tea: It's not their training that's kicking in, it's their lifelong jerkoff fantasy of getting to dress up in tacticool gear and bust some punk heads.


You're a moron, and you can't spell.  Just sayin'
 
2014-08-28 03:43:16 PM  
So a single 911 call from a number that can't be verified via GPS gets the SWAT team out to an office building in the middle of the day?
 
2014-08-28 03:43:33 PM  
Listen,they got all that wonderful and expensive equipment.  They have to use it. THEY HAVE TO! Or someone may actually question WHY they need such wonderful and expensive equipment.
 
2014-08-28 03:44:26 PM  
If they keep it up , it will just give politicians ammo about video games.
 
2014-08-28 03:44:30 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: kilroy14: How good can this swat training be if they bust into a room and think a dorky kid in headphones is worthy of this kind of take down?

You've obviously never encountered a crazy person, the crazy level where they kill a bunch of people and then call the cops...sometimes they act, I don't know...unpredictable?

China White Tea: It's not their training that's kicking in, it's their lifelong jerkoff fantasy of getting to dress up in tacticool gear and bust some punk heads.

You're a moron, and you can't spell.  Just sayin'


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2014-08-28 03:47:04 PM  
hut hut hut hut hut hut

/serpentine
 
2014-08-28 03:55:43 PM  

barefoot in the head: hut hut hut hut hut hut

/serpentine


IM UP

THEY SEE ME

IM DOWN
 
2014-08-28 04:00:04 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: kilroy14: How good can this swat training be if they bust into a room and think a dorky kid in headphones is worthy of this kind of take down?


You've obviously never encountered a crazy person, the crazy level where they kill a bunch of people and then call the cops...sometimes they act, I don't know...unpredictable?


So we should just assume that everyone is crazy? Great idea.

How about the police actually do some verification before they arm up and roll out? Or is that too much to ask?
 
2014-08-28 04:04:48 PM  

tricycleracer: So a single 911 call from a number that can't be verified via GPS gets the SWAT team out to an office building in the middle of the day?


They  have to take these things seriously.  Usually the story the cops are given is something like someone has a gun out with intention to shoot up the place, so you don't have the luxury of waiting around to find out if it's true.No one wants a "boy who cried wolf" situation. It's an unfortunate but otherwise inevitable consequence of being able to do things anonymously. Assholes will always abuse these sorts of things to get their entertainment. It's just now there is suddenly a lot of people with webcams many people are watching, so it has a bigger effect.

On a related note, I don't know what the big deal is with facecams. Every goddamn stream either has one or has people begging for one, like somehow watching someone play a video game is enhanced if one of the corners is taken up by a picture of someone staring at a screen.
 
2014-08-28 04:05:15 PM  

OddLlama: This is becoming disturbingly common.


And the cops fall for it every time!

Or they don't care and do it because they love the rush.
 
2014-08-28 04:08:28 PM  
How the hell did someone watching a Twitch stream know his location to call in a SWAT team?
 
2014-08-28 04:12:03 PM  

hawcian: They  have to take these things seriously.


Maybe while the SWAT team is rolling their armored assault vehicle to the location, 911 could contact the front desk of the building inquire as to whether there is a situation or not.  Crazy, I know.
 
2014-08-28 04:12:59 PM  
I was swatted by my grandmother long before the internet.

Back in the early 90's my parents went on a vacation and didn't want her mother to worry. So they told my brother and I to tell her that she was out when she called. On the day they were scheduled to come back a squad of cops broke down the door while I was making out with my girlfriend. They searched the house and waiting around until my parents pulled up.

I bided my time and thirty years later when my grandmother was the last one to pass, being preceded by my parents, I buried her ass in an unconsecrated public cemetery. Now her annoyingly catholic extended family has to visit her rotting corpse there.
 
2014-08-28 04:18:12 PM  

BizarreMan: Aar1012: Trace the call back and arrest the pranker. Someone will get hurt on one of these.

It was a Skype call so that can be somewhat difficult depending on number of proxies etc.

You're right, someone will either get hurt on one of those pranks, or Law Enforcement will not take calls as seriously and the next thing you know, someone is killed because the LEO had to take extra steps for verification.


As a general rule, LEO taking extra steps in verification most likely would result in fewer deaths.
 
2014-08-28 04:19:24 PM  

tricycleracer: hawcian: They  have to take these things seriously.

Maybe while the SWAT team is rolling their armored assault vehicle to the location, 911 could contact the front desk of the building inquire as to whether there is a situation or not.  Crazy, I know.


This assumes that if Dispatch confirms that there isn't a situation, SWAT is just gonna turn around and go home without playing with their tacticool toys.
 
2014-08-28 04:21:48 PM  

Starhawk: How the hell did someone watching a Twitch stream know his location to call in a SWAT team?


Actually, it's pretty easy.  I had a buddy of mine who was streaming STALKER get a text message from someone in Russia who tracked down his phone number using just his twitch ID.  It's amazing how much info is out there and open to the public.

/46254
 
2014-08-28 04:22:30 PM  
Bets on the person that was swatted was the person calling it in?  He was pretty happy to see the swat team before they came busting in the room and even laughed.
 
2014-08-28 04:24:22 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: BizarreMan: Aar1012: Trace the call back and arrest the pranker. Someone will get hurt on one of these.

It was a Skype call so that can be somewhat difficult depending on number of proxies etc.

You're right, someone will either get hurt on one of those pranks, or Law Enforcement will not take calls as seriously and the next thing you know, someone is killed because the LEO had to take extra steps for verification.

As a general rule, LEO taking extra steps in verification most likely would result in fewer deaths.


As a corollary, fewer deaths necessarily means fewer blacks, poors and hippies dieing. Somehow I doubt that that is sufficient incentive for LEOs to take extra steps in verification, or sufficient disincentive for them to take a "shoot first and ask questions later" approach to problem-solving.
 
2014-08-28 04:24:51 PM  

Cytokine Storm: Starhawk: How the hell did someone watching a Twitch stream know his location to call in a SWAT team?

Actually, it's pretty easy.  I had a buddy of mine who was streaming STALKER get a text message from someone in Russia who tracked down his phone number using just his twitch ID.  It's amazing how much info is out there and open to the public.

/46254


Only if you supply it.  Usually it happens like this:  Xbox user name :Joeblowme----inside his profile is his youtube channel  ---- inside that is his facebook with their real name and city.  A quick google will get you an address usually.
 
2014-08-28 04:28:14 PM  

TNel: Bets on the person that was swatted was the person calling it in?  He was pretty happy to see the swat team before they came busting in the room and even laughed.


He didn't seem all that surprised
 
2014-08-28 04:30:53 PM  
I'm sure the police couldn't give two shiats if all SWAT actions were against nerds in their basement. They get to play with their fancy toys and if they find the idiots that call it in they can arrest them and make them reimburse the cost.
 
2014-08-28 04:52:45 PM  
Wasn't there a ruling about warrantless searches of phones just passed?  I'm lookin at you SWAT baldie, cuz it was the first thing you went for after realizing you detained (but not arrested) a nerd.
 
2014-08-28 05:07:23 PM  

qorkfiend: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: kilroy14: How good can this swat training be if they bust into a room and think a dorky kid in headphones is worthy of this kind of take down?


You've obviously never encountered a crazy person, the crazy level where they kill a bunch of people and then call the cops...sometimes they act, I don't know...unpredictable?

So we should just assume that everyone is crazy? Great idea.

How about the police actually do some verification before they arm up and roll out? Or is that too much to ask?


Just, exactly, what kind of "verification" are they supposed to do when somebody calls and say "I'm at the ABC building and I just shot a bunch of people"?

Seriously, I'm at a loss as to what you are asking for.
 
2014-08-28 05:09:16 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: qorkfiend: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: kilroy14: How good can this swat training be if they bust into a room and think a dorky kid in headphones is worthy of this kind of take down?


You've obviously never encountered a crazy person, the crazy level where they kill a bunch of people and then call the cops...sometimes they act, I don't know...unpredictable?

So we should just assume that everyone is crazy? Great idea.

How about the police actually do some verification before they arm up and roll out? Or is that too much to ask?

Just, exactly, what kind of "verification" are they supposed to do when somebody calls and say "I'm at the ABC building and I just shot a bunch of people"?

Seriously, I'm at a loss as to what you are asking for.


Just tell the caller "Pics or didn't happen."
 
2014-08-28 05:22:13 PM  

Cytokine Storm: TNel: Bets on the person that was swatted was the person calling it in?  He was pretty happy to see the swat team before they came busting in the room and even laughed.

He didn't seem all that surprised


Apparently he heard it going on around him before they even came to his door, and even made a comment about it. I didn't watch the video, because I really don't care. But, I saw some people talk about it earlier.

So, that might explain his lack of surprise. Or maybe TNel is right.
 
2014-08-28 05:33:32 PM  
Oh good, now we get to have a moral panic about how "swatting" is an epidemic among gamers...
 
2014-08-28 05:58:38 PM  

NathanAllen: I was swatted by my grandmother long before the internet.

Back in the early 90's my parents went on a vacation and didn't want her mother to worry. So they told my brother and I to tell her that she was out when she called. On the day they were scheduled to come back a squad of cops broke down the door while I was making out with my girlfriend. They searched the house and waiting around until my parents pulled up.

I bided my time and thirty years later when my grandmother was the last one to pass, being preceded by my parents, I buried her ass in an unconsecrated public cemetery. Now her annoyingly catholic extended family has to visit her rotting corpse there.


Why did they break down the door?
 
2014-08-28 08:16:08 PM  

JPSimonetti: Cytokine Storm: TNel: Bets on the person that was swatted was the person calling it in?  He was pretty happy to see the swat team before they came busting in the room and even laughed.

He didn't seem all that surprised

Apparently he heard it going on around him before they even came to his door, and even made a comment about it. I didn't watch the video, because I really don't care. But, I saw some people talk about it earlier.

So, that might explain his lack of surprise. Or maybe TNel is right.


The way I read the BBC article it really made it sound plausible that he called in in himself.  Who is so into gaming that when they hear a swatting going down they don't go to check it out?  If nothing else they could go back to the stream and "LOL, just saw my neighbor get frog marched into the paddy wagon in his underpants".
 
2014-08-28 08:59:05 PM  

hawcian: On a related note, I don't know what the big deal is with facecams. Every goddamn stream either has one or has people begging for one, like somehow watching someone play a video game is enhanced if one of the corners is taken up by a picture of someone staring at a screen.


Human nature likes to see the face of people talking to us?  If it's someone we 'idolize' enough to watch play stream, then our brain makes us want to know what the person looks like, I think it's something hard-wired.

I don't really get the point of streaming/twitch most of the time myself.  If it was JUST the streamer I'd say brand recognition and/or pride (since it takes a substantial amount of vanity to stream yourself anyway).

Or it could just be people looking for 'big tit webcam' streamers for some sad faux-porn.  There are at least a couple out there who play pretty well, but it's the DDs who bring the boys to the yard (and the girl doesn't even bother to aim her camera at her face).  She then proceeds to grouse about people doing it, so I assume she's a deliberate lulz or troll type.
 
2014-08-28 11:36:44 PM  

TNel: inside that is his facebook with their real name and city


Wait, people use their real names on Facebook?
 
2014-08-29 06:41:42 AM  

kilroy14: How good can this swat training be if they bust into a room and think a dorky kid in headphones is worthy of this kind of take down?


They're all barely high school graduates on a county Sheriff's payroll, I doubt critical thinking skills are their strong suit.
 
2014-08-29 05:36:09 PM  

China White Tea: It should be utterly impossible to "swat" someone anonymously.  If they can't verify the caller's identity, they should ignore it as an obvious prank and decline to do anything.


That's not nearly as fun as using all the cop equipment at the police offifer's station, not to mention the 27 8x10 color glossies as keepsakes.
 
2014-08-29 09:50:21 PM  
He didn't make the call himself. There is a recording out there made by the people who called the police. As expected, they sound like douchebags. He wasn't surprised because this has become a very common tactic against players. They even had to delay an international match because someone threatened to 'swat' some of the players.
 
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