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(Mother Jones)   Now your food has fake DNA in it...which is, I guess, better than the alternative   (motherjones.com) divider line 16
    More: Interesting, DNA, genetic engineers, synthetic biology, Craig Venter, chemical synthesis, cacao beans, Companies of Switzerland, source of energy  
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2014-08-28 03:06:57 PM  
No, it's not fake DNA.  It's DNA, and your body doesn't care whether it was made naturally or synthetically.
 
2014-08-28 03:46:59 PM  

Mentat: No, it's not fake DNA.  It's DNA, and your body doesn't care whether it was made naturally or synthetically.


This.
 
2014-08-28 03:48:37 PM  

Mentat: No, it's not fake DNA.  It's DNA, and your body doesn't care whether it was made naturally or synthetically.


Isn't fake a synonym for synthetic?
 
2014-08-28 03:50:15 PM  
And what happens to farmers when their jobs are taken over by designer yeasts

They stop cutting down rain forests and selling their natural resources to the developed world for next to nothing?  The horror.
 
2014-08-28 04:18:47 PM  

neversubmit: Mentat: No, it's not fake DNA.  It's DNA, and your body doesn't care whether it was made naturally or synthetically.

Isn't fake a synonym for synthetic?


No.  Fake implies that it isn't real.  Synthetic means that it was created from a template that doesn't exist in nature.  Chemically, it's all "real" DNA and your body metabolizes it all the same.
 
2014-08-28 04:33:50 PM  
It's not even DNA. It's vanillin, a chemical (gasp) identical to the "natural" product, grown in and isolated from yeast that contained synthetic DNA.

But I'm sure it will contain some homeopathic echo of the monstrous "fake DNA" that will give us all chakra cancer. Or something.
 
2014-08-28 04:41:23 PM  
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2014-08-28 05:02:52 PM  

jfarkinB: It's not even DNA. It's vanillin, a chemical (gasp) identical to the "natural" product, grown in and isolated from yeast that contained synthetic DNA.

But I'm sure it will contain some homeopathic echo of the monstrous "fake DNA" that will give us all chakra cancer. Or something.


Will this yeast be offered to the public.  I am wondering if you could do a vanilla porter that would meet reinheitsgebot criteria
 
2014-08-28 05:45:51 PM  
FTFA
Evolva CEO Neil Goldsmith says that Thomas raises a "legitimate question" but doesn't think farmers will ultimately be harmed. He argues that synthetic vanillin has existed for decades without taking business away from natural vanilla producers. But that could be because consumers are willing to pay more for the real version. If Evolva is allowed to market its vanillin as a "natural" flavoring rather than a synthetic one, then it could compete directly with vanilla farmers-and it looks like Evolva is aiming to do just that: A recent press release called the product "natural vanillin for global food and flavor markets."

Uh, so they are worried about the illiterate market share who probably just grab the cheap stuff anyway?
 
2014-08-28 06:10:45 PM  

chitownmike: FTFA
Evolva CEO Neil Goldsmith says that Thomas raises a "legitimate question" but doesn't think farmers will ultimately be harmed. He argues that synthetic vanillin has existed for decades without taking business away from natural vanilla producers. But that could be because consumers are willing to pay more for the real version. If Evolva is allowed to market its vanillin as a "natural" flavoring rather than a synthetic one, then it could compete directly with vanilla farmers-and it looks like Evolva is aiming to do just that: A recent press release called the product "natural vanillin for global food and flavor markets."

Uh, so they are worried about the illiterate market share who probably just grab the cheap stuff anyway?


It's the diamond fallacy.  Diamonds are common and relatively easy to manufacture, but try buying your fiance a "fake" diamond.
 
2014-08-28 06:25:08 PM  

Mentat: chitownmike: FTFA
Evolva CEO Neil Goldsmith says that Thomas raises a "legitimate question" but doesn't think farmers will ultimately be harmed. He argues that synthetic vanillin has existed for decades without taking business away from natural vanilla producers. But that could be because consumers are willing to pay more for the real version. If Evolva is allowed to market its vanillin as a "natural" flavoring rather than a synthetic one, then it could compete directly with vanilla farmers-and it looks like Evolva is aiming to do just that: A recent press release called the product "natural vanillin for global food and flavor markets."

Uh, so they are worried about the illiterate market share who probably just grab the cheap stuff anyway?

It's the diamond fallacy.  Diamonds are common and relatively easy to manufacture, but try buying your fiance a "fake" diamond.


Not really, there is natural vanilla, imitation vanilla (cheaper but, tastes like shiat) and soon to be vinellin. There is no competition between the three, that tfa is claiming, aside from the stupidest consumers
 
2014-08-28 07:25:22 PM  
Here's what I took away from the article, other than the fact that subby's an idiot: in a malarial area, drink both gin and tonics and absinthe.
 
2014-08-28 07:53:24 PM  

Mentat: No, it's not fake DNA.  It's DNA, and your body doesn't care whether it was made naturally or synthetically.


Hell, it doesn't care whether it's whole DNA or broken DNA, as long as it's protein.
 
2014-08-28 08:44:19 PM  

IlGreven: Mentat: No, it's not fake DNA.  It's DNA, and your body doesn't care whether it was made naturally or synthetically.

Hell, it doesn't care whether it's whole DNA or broken DNA, as long as it's protein.


DNA isn't protein.
 
2014-08-29 09:13:07 AM  
The problem is not with the synthetic biology but with the fact that the FDA does not clearly define the word "natural".

http://www.fda.gov/AboutFDA/Transparency/Basics/ucm214868.htm

I've found a few sources that suggest anything that comes from a naturally edible source can be billed as "natural", and a few that claim even completely synthetic compounds are often called "natural". Already, "natural vanilla flavoring" doesn't neccessarily have anything to do with vanilla beans, but can suggest vanillin derived from nearly any source. The fact that this new "natural" source is genetically modified yeast and not petroleum or wood ligand (or beaver scent glands apparently) is beside the point.
 
2014-08-29 09:19:08 AM  
Best description of the problem with "natural" ingredients from a reputable source that I've been able to find:

http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/technical-documents/articles/white-papers / flavors-and-fragrances/natural-flavor-ingredients-regulations.html
 
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