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2014-08-28 06:55:15 AM  
About farking time.

When this stuff all started, pundits were blathering on about how this will be a test case for emboldening workers against The Evil Corporation.  I wonder how that will end up panning out?
 
2014-08-28 07:04:56 AM  

Hack Patooey: About farking time.

When this stuff all started, pundits were blathering on about how this will be a test case for emboldening workers against The Evil Corporation.  I wonder how that will end up panning out?


I'm guessing those same pundit will say "move along, nothing to see here".
 
2014-08-28 07:19:12 AM  

Ambivalence: Hack Patooey: About farking time.

When this stuff all started, pundits were blathering on about how this will be a test case for emboldening workers against The Evil Corporation.  I wonder how that will end up panning out?

I'm guessing those same pundit will say "move along, nothing to see here".


Of course not, Desperate Housewives is on!
 
2014-08-28 07:30:39 AM  

Hack Patooey: Of course not, Desperate Housewives is on!


Geeze is that show STILL on?
 
2014-08-28 07:31:30 AM  
i3.photobucket.com
 
2014-08-28 08:35:35 AM  
I thought this was going to be about Brad and Angelina finally getting married.
 
2014-08-28 08:37:20 AM  
Well, *regional* nightmare anyway.
 
2014-08-28 08:40:22 AM  
I wonder what the "letters to the editor" of my local paper will be in the next few days. Some people were aghast that workers of any type should stand up for themselves and demand a better working condition. The past week it was a steady stream of "those bums should just get back to work" type rants. Have people been that cowed that they would just cave in??
 
2014-08-28 08:40:39 AM  
National?


Maybe tri-state.
 
2014-08-28 08:43:48 AM  
And all the business class teachers thank them for the wonderful example that will be used for decades to come.
 
2014-08-28 08:46:31 AM  

szyska: I wonder what the "letters to the editor" of my local paper will be in the next few days. Some people were aghast that workers of any type should stand up for themselves and demand a better working condition. The past week it was a steady stream of "those bums should just get back to work" type rants. Have people been that cowed that they would just cave in??


People have been misled that our system of capitalism is moral meritocracy. If they they keep their heads down and do good by those holding the capital they will get a fair shake, but anger the capital gods by demanding anything and you will fall out of favor.
 
2014-08-28 08:46:57 AM  
Wow, yet another article about Market Basket. I guess I should have waited to post my rant in this thread.
 
2014-08-28 08:47:01 AM  

szyska: Have people been that cowed that they would just cave in??


Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees.
 
GBB
2014-08-28 08:47:13 AM  
Now they need to do something for those poor peasants that sacrificed their livelihood for this $1.5B deal.
 
2014-08-28 08:47:26 AM  
Never heard of this. Any of it.
 
2014-08-28 08:48:20 AM  

szyska: I wonder what the "letters to the editor" of my local paper will be in the next few days. Some people were aghast that workers of any type should stand up for themselves and demand a better working condition. The past week it was a steady stream of "those bums should just get back to work" type rants. Have people been that cowed that they would just cave in??


Yes, they have been. Plus, people who work for shiatty companies for shiatty wages believe that people making more than them for decent companies for the same job should be brought down a peg.
 
2014-08-28 08:48:36 AM  

scottydoesntknow: And all the business class teachers thank them for the wonderful example that will be used for decades to come.


Like business schools will take the right lesson from this, it will be a lesson on how they could have better handled the takeover and PR of removing those pesky workers
 
2014-08-28 08:50:07 AM  
Dems:  "See! Organized workers working for a common goal CAN take an active hand in business and their future!  Now if they had been formally organized, say, in some sort of union or something, it wouldn't have taken so long or gotten as ugly.  To top it off, they would have gotten paid when on strike!"

Reps:  " See! Organized workers working for a common goal CAN take an active hand in business and their future! This shows that they day-to-day overhead, cost, and interference by a "formalized" union is wasteful, stifling, and completely unnecessary.  To top it off, thanks to not having to pay exorbitant union dues, they had extra money saved away to live on when they went on strike!"
 
2014-08-28 08:50:50 AM  
I can't wait until the movie comes out.
 
2014-08-28 08:50:57 AM  
Too Late! I've already started my own garden and have bought my own live stock, so I never have to shop there again. Now if I can just figure out a way to make toilet paper.....
 
2014-08-28 08:51:20 AM  

Hack Patooey: About farking time.

When this stuff all started, pundits were blathering on about how this will be a test case for emboldening workers against The Evil Corporation.  I wonder how that will end up panning out?


So people that make what, 10 bucks an hour maybe, decide to forgo wages for a month to reinstate a multimillionaire to his position of power?

Yeah. That makes perfect sense.
 
2014-08-28 08:51:53 AM  
I tend not to remember any of my dreams, good or bad. I guess that's the case here.
 
2014-08-28 08:52:21 AM  

zedster: szyska: I wonder what the "letters to the editor" of my local paper will be in the next few days. Some people were aghast that workers of any type should stand up for themselves and demand a better working condition. The past week it was a steady stream of "those bums should just get back to work" type rants. Have people been that cowed that they would just cave in??

People have been misled that our system of capitalism is moral meritocracy. If they they keep their heads down and do good by those holding the capital they will get a fair shake, but anger the capital gods by demanding anything and you will fall out of favor.


The anti-capitalist spin some folks are putting on this story is amusing. Too bad capitalism was in play here and it played out typically how things should under capitalism.

No unions involved. No government coersion. And yet, they won. Amazing!
 
2014-08-28 08:54:54 AM  

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: szyska: I wonder what the "letters to the editor" of my local paper will be in the next few days. Some people were aghast that workers of any type should stand up for themselves and demand a better working condition. The past week it was a steady stream of "those bums should just get back to work" type rants. Have people been that cowed that they would just cave in??

Yes, they have been. Plus, people who work for shiatty companies for shiatty wages believe that people making more than them for decent companies for the same job should be brought down a peg.


That could be it. I couldn't quite put my finger on it as to why some letters in the opinion section seemed to be just dripping with hatred. I felt like I was in the Politics tab with some of them. I chalked it up to "ringers" writing for ASD's side. But I am glad it turned out this way. I have friends who work there and it's a huge relief to them.
 
2014-08-28 08:55:04 AM  

Mrbogey: zedster: szyska: I wonder what the "letters to the editor" of my local paper will be in the next few days. Some people were aghast that workers of any type should stand up for themselves and demand a better working condition. The past week it was a steady stream of "those bums should just get back to work" type rants. Have people been that cowed that they would just cave in??

People have been misled that our system of capitalism is moral meritocracy. If they they keep their heads down and do good by those holding the capital they will get a fair shake, but anger the capital gods by demanding anything and you will fall out of favor.

The anti-capitalist spin some folks are putting on this story is amusing. Too bad capitalism was in play here and it played out typically how things should under capitalism.

No unions involved. No government coersion. And yet, they won. Amazing!


My comment was in regards to why someone is a position to benefit from expanded workers rights or societal pressure for profit sharing with works might oppose backing said move. The workers here had backbone, I'm talking about those that yelled them down
 
2014-08-28 08:55:53 AM  
This probably explains why there is a guy eating a pint of Market Basket yogurt on the T across from me.
 
2014-08-28 08:55:54 AM  
I'm going to stop by after work.
 
2014-08-28 08:56:36 AM  
I saw this story when it first came out. From what I read the CEO that was replaced was a good CEO. He took care of his people. Then they canned him for someone that didn't care for the workers.
 
2014-08-28 08:56:44 AM  
Palin died?

*clicks thread

/nope
 
2014-08-28 08:57:45 AM  
They founs the plane.
 
2014-08-28 08:57:48 AM  

Mrbogey: zedster: szyska: I wonder what the "letters to the editor" of my local paper will be in the next few days. Some people were aghast that workers of any type should stand up for themselves and demand a better working condition. The past week it was a steady stream of "those bums should just get back to work" type rants. Have people been that cowed that they would just cave in??

People have been misled that our system of capitalism is moral meritocracy. If they they keep their heads down and do good by those holding the capital they will get a fair shake, but anger the capital gods by demanding anything and you will fall out of favor.

The anti-capitalist spin some folks are putting on this story is amusing. Too bad capitalism was in play here and it played out typically how things should under capitalism.

No unions involved. No government coersion. And yet, they won. Amazing!


At least two governors and a couple attorney generals would like a word with you.
 
2014-08-28 08:58:39 AM  

Girion47: National?


Maybe tri-state.


This.  Never heard of this place before the daily fark thread about it.
 
2014-08-28 08:59:10 AM  

Mrbogey: zedster: szyska: I wonder what the "letters to the editor" of my local paper will be in the next few days. Some people were aghast that workers of any type should stand up for themselves and demand a better working condition. The past week it was a steady stream of "those bums should just get back to work" type rants. Have people been that cowed that they would just cave in??

People have been misled that our system of capitalism is moral meritocracy. If they they keep their heads down and do good by those holding the capital they will get a fair shake, but anger the capital gods by demanding anything and you will fall out of favor.

The anti-capitalist spin some folks are putting on this story is amusing. Too bad capitalism was in play here and it played out typically how things should under capitalism.

No unions involved. No government coersion. And yet, they won. Amazing!


What are you talking about? The state of MA has been involved in the negotiations for weeks.

And the workers, gasp, organized to protect higher wages and greater benefits. Almost like a defacto union.
 
2014-08-28 08:59:11 AM  

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: szyska: I wonder what the "letters to the editor" of my local paper will be in the next few days. Some people were aghast that workers of any type should stand up for themselves and demand a better working condition. The past week it was a steady stream of "those bums should just get back to work" type rants. Have people been that cowed that they would just cave in??

Yes, they have been. Plus, people who work for shiatty companies for shiatty wages believe that people making more than them for decent companies for the same job should be brought down a peg.


That drove me nuts with Act 10 in Wisconsin, instead of asking why government works and benefits private sector didn't of their employees they decided it was an affront and those making 5~15K more than them should lose out so 2 jackasses from Kanasas could keep playing with Stalins money
 
2014-08-28 08:59:22 AM  
That is pretty cool to see Artie and the employees take the win.
 
2014-08-28 08:59:49 AM  

Hack Patooey: When this stuff all started, pundits were blathering on about how this will be a test case for emboldening workers against The Evil Corporation. I wonder how that will end up panning out?


It should be. It is the example of what you should have. The reason for why you can get away from unions if you bothered to give a damn about your employees. You don't like a unionized workforce? Then you push for this style of management. Can't do that because "reasons" then congrats, we're unionizing.

That is how it should be.
 
2014-08-28 09:00:17 AM  
wtf is Market Basket?
 
2014-08-28 09:00:52 AM  

GBB: Now they need to do something for those poor peasants that sacrificed their livelihood for this $1.5B deal.


I think the whole point was that, prior to Arthur T being fired, they were being treated quite well and knew it.

 There is (in my mind at least) a significant difference between workers who were being treated like garbage revolting which somehow ultimately leads to some rich person becoming even richer and these people who went to bat to save what they perceived as a very nice place to work.

Ultimately a business with 70+ stores and 25,000 employees is going to involve serious amounts of money in any kind of deal/sale - and Arthur T and his sister probably mortgaged their entire fortune to buy the company.  Sure hope it works for them.
 
2014-08-28 09:02:11 AM  
If there were a union, then it would have helped the workers with some sort of weekly stipend while they were on strike. Do not know if in Mass that they were able to get any kind of help with their costs of living and related bills during their walk out. I doubt that the family will do squat for these workers, they are expendable, generally a high turn over work force. While those who run large retail operations-say Walmart, claim it's a tight margin they operate on, the Walton family has quite the billion plus dollar nest egg.


      Retail-just another name for Hell.
 
2014-08-28 09:02:26 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Hack Patooey: About farking time.

When this stuff all started, pundits were blathering on about how this will be a test case for emboldening workers against The Evil Corporation.  I wonder how that will end up panning out?

So people that make what, 10 bucks an hour maybe, decide to forgo wages for a month to reinstate a multimillionaire to his position of power?

Yeah. That makes perfect sense.


Nope, not even close.  Long term employees at MB make a living wage and get profit sharing.  That's what the whole takeover was about in the first place.  The other side of the family thought Artie T was being too generous to the employees so they fired him and brought in two people who were either going to prep the place for sale by switching to the Walmart model.  The employees saw the writing on the wall and went on strike - not for better wages, just to keep the status quo.
 
2014-08-28 09:04:12 AM  

doofusgumby: Mrbogey: zedster: szyska: I wonder what the "letters to the editor" of my local paper will be in the next few days. Some people were aghast that workers of any type should stand up for themselves and demand a better working condition. The past week it was a steady stream of "those bums should just get back to work" type rants. Have people been that cowed that they would just cave in??

People have been misled that our system of capitalism is moral meritocracy. If they they keep their heads down and do good by those holding the capital they will get a fair shake, but anger the capital gods by demanding anything and you will fall out of favor.

The anti-capitalist spin some folks are putting on this story is amusing. Too bad capitalism was in play here and it played out typically how things should under capitalism.

No unions involved. No government coersion. And yet, they won. Amazing!

At least two governors and a couple attorney generals attorneys general would like a word with you.


Sorry, pet paeve
 
2014-08-28 09:04:18 AM  
GDubDub:

"Reps:  " See! Organized workers working for a common goal CAN take an active hand in business and their future! This shows that they day-to-day overhead, cost, and interference by a "formalized" union is wasteful, stifling, and completely unnecessary."

I think the lack of a union worked in their favor. It removed any question of it being a grass roots effort. Would the honking of car horns or the strength of the boycott been the same if it was a union issue? No way. MB workers were in a somewhat unique position as they sold something everyone needs at demonstrably lower lower prices. They were significantly cheaper than Wal-Mart, never mind the other chains. That and the cult of personality surrounding Artie T won the day
 
2014-08-28 09:04:40 AM  

Schmerd1948: Too Late! I've already started my own garden and have bought my own live stock, so I never have to shop there again. Now if I can just figure out a way to make toilet paper.....


encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com

And it's organic!
 
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2014-08-28 09:05:56 AM  
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Devo describes this CEO twat.
 
2014-08-28 09:07:56 AM  

szyska: I wonder what the "letters to the editor" of my local paper will be in the next few days. Some people were aghast that workers of any type should stand up for themselves and demand a better working condition. The past week it was a steady stream of "those bums should just get back to work" type rants. Have people been that cowed that they would just cave in??


They're not people; they're conservatives.
 
2014-08-28 09:07:57 AM  

Hack Patooey: About farking time.

When this stuff all started, pundits were blathering on about how this will be a test case for emboldening workers against The Evil Corporation.  I wonder how that will end up panning out?


I think it's pretty damn impressive what they pulled off.  These were non-unionized employees.  I just hope this Arthur T. guy is the stand-up guy everybody thinks he is.  He should be damn thankful to those employees.
 
2014-08-28 09:08:10 AM  

spiral8: wtf is Market Basket?



It's a market with a basket. Duh.

/this probably should have been posted in the business tab, considering what the last green headline is in there.
 
2014-08-28 09:08:22 AM  

Artist: If there were a union, then it would have helped the workers with some sort of weekly stipend while they were on strike. Do not know if in Mass that they were able to get any kind of help with their costs of living and related bills during their walk out. I doubt that the family will do squat for these workers, they are expendable, generally a high turn over work force. While those who run large retail operations-say Walmart, claim it's a tight margin they operate on, the Walton family has quite the billion plus dollar nest egg.


      Retail-just another name for Hell.


Yeah, you don't know what you're talking about.  Employees at MB wear name tags with their years of service on them.  It's not uncommon to see many 20+ year employees working there.  The reason 25,000 workers went on strike was to bring back the guy who treated them decently so they wanted to stay, not as expendable robots, a la Walmart.
 
2014-08-28 09:10:56 AM  

doofusgumby: At least two governors and a couple attorney generals would like a word with you.


They didn't coerce anyone. The governors got concerned because this was becoming a crisis in their states. You have a major supermarket empty and workers not getting paid.

And the AGs got involved because of shady double-dealing against the employees by the new management.
 
2014-08-28 09:12:49 AM  
Namque pauci libertatem, pars magna iustos dominos volunt.

Mrbogey: No unions involved

Workers organized for demands in the workplace = a union, whether the workers realize it or not.
 
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