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(SFGate)   Eight ways to impress on your first day at a new job. The "water cooler filled with gin and vermouth" trick mysteriously absent   (blog.sfgate.com) divider line 10
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2014-08-28 09:42:53 AM  
#9:  Buy food for the IT team.  Bagels, baked goods, pizza--whatever.  You want to be friends with the IT team.  They are your lifeline.
 
2014-08-28 10:17:30 AM  
Leave fifteen minutes after everyone else? Fark that. Start off doing unpaid overtime and they'll expect it. Absolutely never arrive late, but when it gets to going home time, go home.

/Maybe it's an American thing. As a Brit I just didn't get the bit in Office Space where Peter was trying to avoid Lundberg because he knew he was going to ask him to work Saturday. Just say "sorry, I cant" and that's it.
 
2014-08-28 11:28:20 AM  
"Do you prefer to communicate by email, telephone, or in person?"

"I LIKE TO SHOUT BACK AND FORTH OVER THE CUBICLE WALLS.  HOW'S THAT WORK FOR YOU?"
 
2014-08-28 11:36:49 AM  

MooseBayou: "Do you prefer to communicate by email, telephone, or in person?"

"I LIKE TO SHOUT BACK AND FORTH OVER THE CUBICLE WALLS.  HOW'S THAT WORK FOR YOU?"


I'm sitting at my desk now, eating an eggy sammich, and nearly had to get Heimlich'd when I read this.
 
2014-08-28 11:55:37 AM  

Flint Ironstag: Leave fifteen minutes after everyone else? Fark that. Start off doing unpaid overtime and they'll expect it. Absolutely never arrive late, but when it gets to going home time, go home.

/Maybe it's an American thing. As a Brit I just didn't get the bit in Office Space where Peter was trying to avoid Lundberg because he knew he was going to ask him to work Saturday. Just say "sorry, I cant" and that's it.


it's for ONE DAY. Your first day, when impressions are - you know the rest.

And saying "Sorry, I can't" to the BOSS in the U.S. economy is impossible right now. (I have kids to feed and bills to pay. If the boss ever told me to clean the farking bathroom, I would ask, "Where are the cleaning supplies?" Because we're supposed to be grateful we even GET a paycheck at all, ya know.)
 
2014-08-28 11:59:19 AM  
"Focus on completing one task" - huh? just ONE? where the fark do these people work?

"Keep your cell phone turned off the first day" - uh, that's outrageous. (where I work, it's "keep the damn thing turned off or at least silent/on vibrate ALWAYS unless you're one of the top dogs").

And this:

brigid_fitch: #9:  Buy food for the IT team.  Bagels, baked goods, pizza--whatever.  You want to be friends with the IT team.  They are your lifeline.


I keep chocolate in a jar on my desk 24/7. Now I never have to remember anyone's birthday and people are QUICK to do me favors.
 
2014-08-28 12:15:34 PM  
Vermouth would get you fired 'round these parts. Gin, on the other hand...
 
2014-08-28 12:45:18 PM  

mama2tnt: Flint Ironstag: Leave fifteen minutes after everyone else? Fark that. Start off doing unpaid overtime and they'll expect it. Absolutely never arrive late, but when it gets to going home time, go home.

/Maybe it's an American thing. As a Brit I just didn't get the bit in Office Space where Peter was trying to avoid Lundberg because he knew he was going to ask him to work Saturday. Just say "sorry, I cant" and that's it.

it's for ONE DAY. Your first day, when impressions are - you know the rest.

And saying "Sorry, I can't" to the BOSS in the U.S. economy is impossible right now. (I have kids to feed and bills to pay. If the boss ever told me to clean the farking bathroom, I would ask, "Where are the cleaning supplies?" Because we're supposed to be grateful we even GET a paycheck at all, ya know.)


I work in a fairly low, easily replaceable, position for the UK subsidiary of Wal-Mart, ASDA. My boss frequently asks me if I can work extra shifts, work on a day off etc and nine times out of ten I just say 'sorry, I cant' and that's it. Granted I am working there to pay the bills while I start my own business so I wouldn't be devastated if they fired me but its never come up. And I'd never work any overtime without being paid.
I used to work in management positions several years ago and that was exactly the same. Sure if some crisis comes up everyone is expected to pull their weight but to just ask you to work a day off as a matter of routine? Sorry, I have plans boss.
 
2014-08-28 05:33:31 PM  

Flint Ironstag: Maybe it's an American thing. As a Brit I just didn't get the bit in Office Space where Peter was trying to avoid Lundberg because he knew he was going to ask him to work Saturday. Just say "sorry, I cant" and that's it.


I don't know if it's JUST an American thing but it's definitely part of the work culture.  It's so ingrained, you can even see it in our earliest TV shows--work an extra shift, stay late, come in on Saturday, have your boss over for dinner, whatever.  You say no to the boss, you're on the shiat list.  And you DON'T want to be on the shiat list.

But here's the vicious cycle:  Once you say yes to an extra shift or working on Saturday, you'll ALWAYS be asked to do so in the future because you so easily caved.  It sucks but if you don't do it, there's the idea that there's someone right behind you more willing to fill your place and this moment will be remembered at some very important time in the future (raises, promotions, layoffs, etc.)
 
2014-08-28 06:02:44 PM  
Nobody will notice me arriving early or leaving late.
Leaving my phone off will be a safety breach.
Focusing on one task means not very much will get done.
I will be working by myself so I can't shadow anyone.

Time to look for a new job and I haven't started this one yet. Thanks article!
 
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