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(Cracked)   Why every '80s sitcom decided to kill off the mom (Cosby Show sadly exception to the rule)   (cracked.com) divider line 211
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2014-08-28 08:36:00 AM  
I thought the writers and producers were all closeted homosexuals living out their fantasies.

/NTTAWWT
//But there was then
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-08-28 10:14:07 AM  
New York did not have no fault divorce until 2010.
 
2014-08-28 10:17:01 AM  
Family Ties is 80's and had the mom.
 
2014-08-28 10:54:19 AM  
Unfortunately this trend didn't carry over to the nineties. Home Improvement and Everybody Loves Raymond would have been better.
 
2014-08-28 10:54:22 AM  

plushpuppy: Family Ties is 80's and had the mom.


Sha La La Laaaa
 
2014-08-28 10:55:56 AM  
ctva.biz
 
2014-08-28 10:56:50 AM  
Some may take issue with this,

31.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-08-28 10:57:06 AM  
Because courteous and professional females be trippin'
 
2014-08-28 10:57:31 AM  
Fark you, Phylicia Rashad was the best character on that show.
 
2014-08-28 10:57:54 AM  
Headline: every sitcom from the 1980's
Article: eight sitcoms from the 1980's, except for the one from 1990.
 
2014-08-28 10:59:09 AM  
Sadly!?  I would still marry Phylicia Rashad.
 
2014-08-28 10:59:56 AM  
Okay... because 'Mom' is the glue within the domestic situations so lack of mom = at home conflicts.

*clicks link*

Nailed it.
 
2014-08-28 11:00:47 AM  

Gaddiel: Some may take issue with this,

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A lawyer so successful that she never has to show up to work
 
2014-08-28 11:03:27 AM  

Two Dogs Farking: I thought the writers and producers were all closeted homosexuals living out their fantasies.

/NTTAWWT
//But there was then


WTF? There should be a policy against moronic posts like this.
 
2014-08-28 11:03:44 AM  
You know a few days ago I would have made a comment about television at that time no longer allowing a particularly heinous crime being committed against female characters so the network had to something less heinous and kill them off instead.

But not now. No sir. Not me.
 
2014-08-28 11:03:57 AM  
This mom could kill me:

When you're good to mama...
 
2014-08-28 11:04:08 AM  

Land_of_the_Magic_Dragon: Gaddiel: Some may take issue with this,

[31.media.tumblr.com image 406x304]

A lawyer so successful that she never has to show up to work


Yeah, it wasn't like her work was a major plot point or anything.
 
2014-08-28 11:04:18 AM  
The best sitcom of the '80s, "Buffalo Bill", killed off an unseen  father in the first episode in order to introduce Geena Davis's character, Wendy..  The fact that he was a friend of Bill's (Dabney Coleman) didn't stop him from trying to get into her pants. (It should be said that Wendy was an adult.)
 
2014-08-28 11:04:26 AM  
That was one of the most important TV shows of all time.
 
2014-08-28 11:05:54 AM  

Why every 80s sitcom decided to kill off the mom


Because she knew too much.
 
2014-08-28 11:06:00 AM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: You know a few days ago I would have made a comment about television at that time no longer allowing a particularly heinous crime being committed against female characters so the network had to something less heinous and kill them off instead.

But not now. No sir. Not me.


i299.photobucket.com
 
2014-08-28 11:15:28 AM  

InterruptingQuirk: [ctva.biz image 320x236]


Add, The Courtship of Eddie's Father, My Three Sons and Family Affair.  Off the top of my head.  This is an old trope.
 
2014-08-28 11:16:22 AM  

thamike: Land_of_the_Magic_Dragon: Gaddiel: Some may take issue with this,

[31.media.tumblr.com image 406x304]

A lawyer so successful that she never has to show up to work

Yeah, it wasn't like her work was a major plot point or anything.


It wasn't but it always bugged me.
 
2014-08-28 11:16:44 AM  

Land_of_the_Magic_Dragon: Unfortunately this trend didn't carry over to the nineties. Home Improvement and Everybody Loves Raymond would have been better.


Actually most family sitcoms of the 90s, the wife was a real coontrag. And the husband was a lovable oaf. I only watched Seinfeld.
 
2014-08-28 11:17:09 AM  

nmrsnr: Fark you, Phylicia Rashad was the best character on that show.


I'm right there with you, bro.

Claire Huxtable cemented a life long desire for older women in my prepubescent self.

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www.meh.ro
 
2014-08-28 11:20:05 AM  

Crotchrocket Slim: Two Dogs Farking: I thought the writers and producers were all closeted homosexuals living out their fantasies.

/NTTAWWT
//But there was then

WTF? There should be a policy against moronic posts like this.


I was going to post a "welcome to Fark" graphic, but I see you've been here since 2001.

So I'll leave it at "bite me".
 
2014-08-28 11:21:50 AM  

Mugato: Land_of_the_Magic_Dragon: Unfortunately this trend didn't carry over to the nineties. Home Improvement and Everybody Loves Raymond would have been better.

Actually most family sitcoms of the 90s, the wife was a real coontrag. And the husband was a lovable oaf. I only watched Seinfeld.


During the run of Everybody Loves Raymond, if I'd had the opportunity to meet Patricia Heaton, I would have punched her right in the farking mouth simply because her character on that show was such a monumental biatch!!  I hated that farking broad! I guess that says something about her acting ability.

/now that she's on The Middle, I think she's fantastic.
//seriously, that show that should be cleaning up at the Emmy's instead of Modern Family
 
2014-08-28 11:21:56 AM  

KatjaMouse: Okay... because 'Mom' is the glue within the domestic situations so lack of mom = at home conflicts.

*clicks link*

Nailed it.


I was going for the more cynical answer of "because the male leads could have the 'pursuing a love interest' storyline without it being too creepy" but that works too.
 
2014-08-28 11:23:36 AM  
Well the mom in ALF did not die. Only two deaths in the I remember are Uncle Albert and Lucky the cat.
 
2014-08-28 11:24:04 AM  

Gaddiel: Some may take issue with this,

[31.media.tumblr.com image 406x304]


I never really got into The Cosby Show, so I've only seen a couple of episodes, but from what I remember Claire Huxtable always had a real C You Next Tuesday vibe going.

/That and Bill's sweaters. Very off putting.
 
2014-08-28 11:26:28 AM  

Two Dogs Farking: Crotchrocket Slim: Two Dogs Farking: I thought the writers and producers were all closeted homosexuals living out their fantasies.

/NTTAWWT
//But there was then

WTF? There should be a policy against moronic posts like this.

I was going to post a "welcome to Fark" graphic, but I see you've been here since 2001.

So I'll leave it at "bite me".


Plus he's just making a passive aggressive swipe at the no-misogyny policy, so the hell with him.

Didn't know about the no fault divorce thing, but otherwise I'm glad I guessed correctly - dead/abandoning mothers let you tell stories about single fathers without them having to face any kind of moral judgment from the audience for being divorced.
 
2014-08-28 11:26:34 AM  

Land_of_the_Magic_Dragon: Gaddiel: Some may take issue with this,

[31.media.tumblr.com image 406x304]

A lawyer so successful that she never has to show up to work


You mean except for all the episodes that had her being caught up at work/late at work/coming home late/not spending enough time at home? Yeah, she never had to show up to work.
 
2014-08-28 11:29:14 AM  

chevydeuce: During the run of Everybody Loves Raymond, if I'd had the opportunity to meet Patricia Heaton, I would have punched her right in the farking mouth simply because her character on that show was such a monumental biatch!!


I guess the family comedies of the 90s where the husband was a clueless dumbass and the wife was a colossal biatch were sort of a counterbalance to when Ricky Ricardo would spank Lucy and Jackie Gleason would threaten to beat his wife on a weekly basis. But there was a time on the 80s when there were functional family sitcoms.

/who cares, all family sitcoms suck
//except the Simpsons
///and Married with Childen
 
2014-08-28 11:29:20 AM  
Dukes of Hazzard - no mom
Magnum - no mom
Riptide - no mom

Looking glass, people.
 
2014-08-28 11:32:07 AM  

Tyrosine: Gaddiel: Some may take issue with this,

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I never really got into The Cosby Show, so I've only seen a couple of episodes, but from what I remember Claire Huxtable always had a real C You Next Tuesday vibe going.

/That and Bill's sweaters. Very off putting.


That woman has really mean eyes. She looks eternally contemptuous. But considering Cosby's recent Comedy Central special which was a 2-hour depressing tirade about how his marriage was horrible and his wife ruined his life, I'm thinking that's what he looks for/expects in a wife.
 
2014-08-28 11:34:09 AM  

Tyrosine: Gaddiel: Some may take issue with this,

[31.media.tumblr.com image 406x304]

I never really got into The Cosby Show, so I've only seen a couple of episodes, but from what I remember Claire Huxtable always had a real C You Next Tuesday vibe going.

/That and Bill's sweaters. Very off putting.


You don't know what you're missing.

I don't know how it would be received now by somebody who didn't grow up with it, but for someone that did it's the greatest sitcom there ever was. Every episode is like a warm blanket you snuggle up in. Cliff and Claire were everybody's surrogate parents. Sondra, Denise, Theo, and Rudy were everybody's siblings. We grew up with those kids.

That show really created in many people's minds the idea of what a family was supposed to be like. And of course nobody's real family was that harmonious or well off, but maybe that's what made it so attractive.
 
2014-08-28 11:34:44 AM  

PIP_the_TROLL: nmrsnr: Fark you, Phylicia Rashad was the best character on that show.

I'm right there with you, bro.

Claire Huxtable cemented a life long desire for older women in my prepubescent self.

[media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com image 850x548]


[www.meh.ro image 750x600]


REPORTED.
 
2014-08-28 11:35:41 AM  

PIP_the_TROLL: don't know how it would be received now by somebody who didn't grow up with it, but for someone that did it's the greatest sitcom there ever was. Every episode is like a warm blanket you snuggle up in. Cliff and Claire were everybody's surrogate parents. Sondra, Denise, Theo, and Rudy were everybody's siblings. We grew up with those kids.

That show really created in many people's minds the idea of what a family was supposed to be like. And of course nobody's real family was that harmonious or well off, but maybe that's what made it so attractive.


God that sounds horrible.
 
2014-08-28 11:36:26 AM  

KatjaMouse: Okay... because 'Mom' is the glue within the domestic situations so lack of mom = at home conflicts.

*clicks link*

Nailed it.


The mother also tends to be the most boring character on the show as they tend to fill the straight man role while the father and kids get up wo whacky hijinks.

And it was probably less acceptable for a mother to get up to those whacky hijinks in the 1980s. As she would look like a bad mother (but nobody really cared about bad fathers).
 
2014-08-28 11:37:20 AM  

PIP_the_TROLL: I don't know how it would be received now by somebody who didn't grow up with it, but for someone that did it's the greatest sitcom there ever was. Every episode is like a warm blanket you snuggle up in. Cliff and Claire were everybody's surrogate parents. Sondra, Denise, Theo, and Rudy were everybody's siblings. We grew up with those kids.

That show really created in many people's minds the idea of what a family was supposed to be like. And of course nobody's real family was that harmonious or well off, but maybe that's what made it so attractive.


God, you must have had a miserable childhood. The only reason I could stand Cosby was I knew Cheers would be on soon.
 
2014-08-28 11:41:39 AM  

PIP_the_TROLL: nmrsnr: Fark you, Phylicia Rashad was the best character on that show.

I'm right there with you, bro.

Claire Huxtable cemented a life long desire for older women in my prepubescent self.

[media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com image 850x548]


[www.meh.ro image 750x600]


Beverly Crusher was mine.
 
2014-08-28 11:41:54 AM  

Mugato: God that sounds horrible.


Confabulat: God, you must have had a miserable childhood. The only reason I could stand Cosby was I knew Cheers would be on soon.


Hehe, not at all the response I was expecting, but ok.

And no, my childhood was far from miserable. It's just compared to most people's lives, the lives of the Huxtables were perfect.
 
2014-08-28 11:42:34 AM  

bigbadideasinaction: KatjaMouse: Okay... because 'Mom' is the glue within the domestic situations so lack of mom = at home conflicts.

*clicks link*

Nailed it.

I was going for the more cynical answer of "because the male leads could have the 'pursuing a love interest' storyline without it being too creepy" but that works too.


It allows the producers to rotate their girlfriends through the "who is dad dating this week" role?
 
2014-08-28 11:42:58 AM  

PIP_the_TROLL: Tyrosine: Gaddiel: Some may take issue with this,

[31.media.tumblr.com image 406x304]

I never really got into The Cosby Show, so I've only seen a couple of episodes, but from what I remember Claire Huxtable always had a real C You Next Tuesday vibe going.

/That and Bill's sweaters. Very off putting.

You don't know what you're missing.

I don't know how it would be received now by somebody who didn't grow up with it, but for someone that did it's the greatest sitcom there ever was. Every episode is like a warm blanket you snuggle up in. Cliff and Claire were everybody's surrogate parents. Sondra, Denise, Theo, and Rudy were everybody's siblings. We grew up with those kids.

That show really created in many people's minds the idea of what a family was supposed to be like. And of course nobody's real family was that harmonious or well off, but maybe that's what made it so attractive.


"I brought you in this world, and I can take you out!"

Best line in a sitcom ever.
 
2014-08-28 11:43:51 AM  

chevydeuce: Mugato: Land_of_the_Magic_Dragon: Unfortunately this trend didn't carry over to the nineties. Home Improvement and Everybody Loves Raymond would have been better.

Actually most family sitcoms of the 90s, the wife was a real coontrag. And the husband was a lovable oaf. I only watched Seinfeld.

During the run of Everybody Loves Raymond, if I'd had the opportunity to meet Patricia Heaton, I would have punched her right in the farking mouth simply because her character on that show was such a monumental biatch!!  I hated that farking broad! I guess that says something about her acting ability.

/now that she's on The Middle, I think she's fantastic.
//seriously, that show that should be cleaning up at the Emmy's instead of Modern Family


She was a verbally and physically abusive spouse. I don't know why people liked her.
 
2014-08-28 11:44:13 AM  

KatjaMouse: Okay... because 'Mom' is the glue within the domestic situations so lack of mom = at home conflicts.

*clicks link*

Nailed it.


Also, same reason there's no moms in Disney movies - to those of us who grew up with loving moms (and/or surrogate moms or "moms"), it's such a visceral thing to imagine her loss, and it instantly adds emotional weight to your story. (Yes, it's more emotional if it's mom's loss than dad's. Sexism, culture, or biology - take your pick.)

In order for us to be emotionally invested enough to laugh at/with Star-Lord, first we have to cry for the loss of his Momma.

// and his grandpa was played by Val from Payback
// or That Lawman from The Train Job ep of Firefly
 
2014-08-28 11:45:53 AM  
The trend stopped in the 90s when the moms learned to regenerate:
www.soexcitedsoscared.com
 
2014-08-28 11:47:39 AM  

addy2: "I brought you in this world, and I can take you out!"

Best line in a sitcom ever.


That's older than the series. Bill Cosby's Himself (which, along with Robin Williams' 1986 special, are my dad's two favorites) features that joke, and it was recorded a year before the series started.

// TMYK
// or...whatever his sign-off "you learned something" phrase was from the 70's animated show
// o-bee kay-bee?
 
2014-08-28 11:47:52 AM  
Night Court has no mom too!!!!
 
2014-08-28 11:48:52 AM  

PIP_the_TROLL: for someone that did it's the greatest sitcom there ever was.


I respectfully disagree.  It does not best Cheers, or Seinfeld, or M*A*S*H.

PIP_the_TROLL: Sondra, Denise, Theo, and Rudy were everybody's siblings.


What I really have a problem with, however, is that you forgot Vanessa.  Denise was one of my first crushes and Vanessa was no Denise, but you can't just leave her out.  Now go stand in the corner and think about what you've done.
 
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