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(Cinema Blend)   Ministry of Culture releases list of movies all Russians should watch. Apocalypse Now makes the cut, Rocky IV curiously missing   (cinemablend.com) divider line 37
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2014-08-28 08:41:37 AM  
No Red Dawn?

/WOLVERINES!!!!
 
2014-08-28 09:48:28 AM  
I recommend any '80s action movie for Russians. Should fill them with patriotic pride.
 
2014-08-28 10:02:22 AM  
Interesting.

Charlie Chaplin is nicely represented.
 
2014-08-28 10:40:03 AM  
Seems like they can't change after all. You lied to me, Sylvester Stallone!
 
2014-08-28 10:42:22 AM  
How is Enemy at the Gates not on the list.
 
2014-08-28 10:45:26 AM  

gopher321: Should fill them with patriotic pride.


Is that what they called bullets in those days?
 
2014-08-28 10:52:11 AM  

scottydoesntknow: No Red Dawn?

/WOLVERINES!!!!


All they would have to do is cut the final scene of the American flag waving over Partisan Rock, and it would be arguably a pro-Soviet movie:  In just a handful of months (movie spans from September to March), the Wolverines suffer 80% casualties, and the only two who survive do so by running away.

But the only reason why they do as well as they do initially is because they are fighting against what a US soldier would call a "REMF":  Rear-Echelon Mother-Farkers, basically second and third string occupation troops.  Once the Soviets get serious and bring in the Spetznaz in January, the Wolverines are basically wiped out within a month or two.

And the on screen portrayals of every single Soviet/Cuban in that movie are fairly even-handed with the exception of General Bratchenko, and some are down-right sympathetic.

In short, it's not the movie you were told it was.
 
2014-08-28 10:53:45 AM  

dittybopper: In short, it's not the movie you were told it was.


I just watched it like two days ago on This TV. It's worse.
 
2014-08-28 11:04:26 AM  

Confabulat: dittybopper: In short, it's not the movie you were told it was.

I just watched it like two days ago on This TV. It's worse.


I know.  It's like it's not this hyper-patriotic film that I expected.  And if you turn it off right at the end so you don't see the "American flag over Partisan Rock" ending that the studio forced Milius to put on the end, it's a much more ambiguous film.
 
2014-08-28 11:40:05 AM  
No Rocky IV? Even after Stallone ended the Cold War with his fists??

Dare I ask if Goldeneye made the cut?
 
2014-08-28 11:42:27 AM  
"I love the smell of ... Sharapova... in the morning"... that's mine own take on it..
media1.santabanta.com
 
2014-08-28 11:45:59 AM  
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This is a must watch.
 
2014-08-28 11:55:52 AM  
In Soviet Russia, films watch you!
 
2014-08-28 12:00:44 PM  
Seriously?

media2.firstshowing.net

Not on the list?
 
2014-08-28 12:06:01 PM  
Not so CSB: I worked as a projectionist when Rocky 4 was in the theaters.  I am scarred by this.
 
2014-08-28 12:15:24 PM  

b2theory: How is Enemy at the Gates not on the list.


Maybe because it wasn't a very good movie?
 
2014-08-28 12:16:56 PM  
Rocky 4 has one of the best soundtracks ever.

"Hit the one in the middle" is a part of the Jim from Saint Paul lexicon and is used often.
 
2014-08-28 12:19:12 PM  
They missed one.

img.fark.net
 
2014-08-28 12:50:03 PM  
seriously fails without:

Soylent Green
Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
 
2014-08-28 01:17:26 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: In Soviet Russia, films watch you!


No, that's Oceania. Oh wait...
 
2014-08-28 02:10:18 PM  
I should point out that in one major way, the original Red Dawn is an unrealistic portrayal of guerrilla warfare:  The ranks of the Wolverines don't get replenished or grown by new "recruits", even after they assault the drive-in theater "re-education camp" and hand out AKs to the prisoners.
 
2014-08-28 02:19:13 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-08-28 02:19:41 PM  
You know who else tried to dictate the cultural tastes of an entire nation?
 
2014-08-28 02:21:23 PM  
All the American movies are credited as "USA" except "E.T. The Extra Terrestrial" which is credited as "UNITED STATES",


Darrel Issa needs to investigate that.
 
2014-08-28 02:23:26 PM  

zerkalo: You know who else tried to dictate the cultural tastes of an entire nation?


Every Farker in a movie thread?
 
2014-08-28 02:23:44 PM  

Is Solaris on the list? You know, 'Solaris, based on Stanislaw Lem's 1961 novel, is arguably the best science-fiction film ever made. We're talking about real science fiction, the philosophical, meditative mid-20th-century genre that was more or less destroyed by the success of George Lucas's Star Wars in 1977.'

 http://www.theguardian.com/books/2005/feb/12/featuresreviews.guar d ianr eview11

 
2014-08-28 02:51:54 PM  
Why is Kim Kardashian's sex tape not on the list?
 
2014-08-28 03:05:17 PM  
i169.photobucket.com
 
2014-08-28 03:19:22 PM  
Chuckled at Strawberry Fields.
 
2014-08-28 03:58:06 PM  
people.ucalgary.ca
 
2014-08-28 04:25:07 PM  

kanesays: Is Solaris on the list? You know, 'Solaris, based on Stanislaw Lem's 1961 novel, is arguably the best science-fiction film ever made. We're talking about real science fiction, the philosophical, meditative mid-20th-century genre that was more or less destroyed by the success of George Lucas's Star Wars in 1977.'
 http://www.theguardian.com/books/2005/feb/12/featuresreviews.guar d ianr eview11


It's a list of foreign (to them) films, so their domestic films are not included.

Pretty decent list: .  I'd've included "Tokyo Story" though.
 
2014-08-28 09:29:05 PM  

stupiddream: Not so CSB: I worked as a projectionist when Rocky 4 was in the theaters.  I am scarred by this.


You have my sympathies. I was an usher when Earth Girls Are Easy came out. Must've seen it at least thirty times.
 
2014-08-29 02:37:28 AM  

Marquis de Sod: b2theory: How is Enemy at the Gates not on the list.

Maybe because it wasn't a very good movie?


I would say that it's quite a good movie... up until a certain point where it rapidly desolves into a big steaming pile of wet dog poop. Sadly, I forget at what point that was since it's been such a long time since I've seen it, but I remember seeing it a second time on TV and me announcing at a crucial point, "Okay, there's really nothing more in this movie worth seeing. If you're smart, you'll leave too." They didn't listen... but oh, how they wished they did.
 
2014-08-29 06:30:39 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Rocky 4 has one of the best soundtracks ever.

"Hit the one in the middle" is a part of the Jim from Saint Paul lexicon and is used often.


I owned that on cassette, as one of the first albums I bought for myself as a teenager.

Nothing you could really dance to, but good as an exercise tape.
 
2014-08-29 08:45:01 AM  

demidog: Marquis de Sod: b2theory: How is Enemy at the Gates not on the list.

Maybe because it wasn't a very good movie?

I would say that it's quite a good movie... up until a certain point where it rapidly desolves into a big steaming pile of wet dog poop. Sadly, I forget at what point that was since it's been such a long time since I've seen it, but I remember seeing it a second time on TV and me announcing at a crucial point, "Okay, there's really nothing more in this movie worth seeing. If you're smart, you'll leave too." They didn't listen... but oh, how they wished they did.


I actually have the DVD, though it's one of those "Buy it for $5 or less at Wal*Mart" films that you watch maybe once or twice but since it was cheap enough you don't mind buying it.

I've actually only watched it a couple times.

Oh, and while Vasiliy Zaitsev did exist, and was a sniper in the Red Army, that whole duel with a German sniper named Koenig?  Never happened.  Pure Soviet propaganda bullshiat.
 
2014-08-29 09:10:13 AM  

dittybopper: demidog: Marquis de Sod: b2theory: How is Enemy at the Gates not on the list.

Maybe because it wasn't a very good movie?

I would say that it's quite a good movie... up until a certain point where it rapidly desolves into a big steaming pile of wet dog poop. Sadly, I forget at what point that was since it's been such a long time since I've seen it, but I remember seeing it a second time on TV and me announcing at a crucial point, "Okay, there's really nothing more in this movie worth seeing. If you're smart, you'll leave too." They didn't listen... but oh, how they wished they did.

I actually have the DVD, though it's one of those "Buy it for $5 or less at Wal*Mart" films that you watch maybe once or twice but since it was cheap enough you don't mind buying it.

I've actually only watched it a couple times.

Oh, and while Vasiliy Zaitsev did exist, and was a sniper in the Red Army, that whole duel with a German sniper named Koenig?  Never happened.  Pure Soviet propaganda bullshiat.


Like the line from Jane Austen about a rich man needing a wife, something else that needs to be repeated ad nauseam is that Art isn't History. It has other responsibilities. Other things on its mind. If you find yourself complaining about historical accuracy, stop it. Just stop it right now.
 
2014-08-29 11:01:20 AM  

yakmans_dad: Like the line from Jane Austen about a rich man needing a wife, something else that needs to be repeated ad nauseam is that Art isn't History. It has other responsibilities. Other things on its mind. If you find yourself complaining about historical accuracy, stop it. Just stop it right now.


The problem is when art itself masquerades as history.

It *CAN* be done right:   Tora, Tora, Tora and A Bridge Too Far come immediately to mind.   Das Boot comes close*.

But that's not what I was complaining about.  I wasn't complaining about the movie per se, I was complaining about the fictional propaganda it was based upon.


*But for one fatal flaw:  The tide hadn't turned against the U-boats in late 1941.  It was their heyday.  The pessimistic tone of the film is more appropriate for 1943.
 
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