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(KSTU FOX 13)   Old and busted: Judges overturning gay marriage bans. New Hotness: Judges overturning polygamy bans   (fox13now.com ) divider line
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2014-08-27 08:07:27 PM  
oyster.ignimgs.com
 
2014-08-27 08:14:46 PM  
 
2014-08-27 08:21:55 PM  
The Mormons are coming....
 
2014-08-27 08:27:21 PM  
I only read the judgement, but it appears that the judge in no way decreed that polygamists have the right to be considered officially married, but instead stated that forbidding cohabitation was unconstitutional. So this is not really the same thing as gay marriage (yet). In fact, it seems that the law against polygamists being considered married was upheld, without the part about cohabitation.
 
2014-08-27 08:29:45 PM  
Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...
The dead rising from the grave!
 
2014-08-27 09:10:21 PM  
Does anyone know what "cohabitating" actually requires?  Like, I would imagine if a married couple rents a room in their house to a single person, that's not cohabitating.  If one (or both) are having sex with that single person, that may be cohabitating? Though it shouldn't be, since it could just be a sex thing.  But if (let's use the easy to picture version) the married guy is having sex with his wife and the single person, and also has an emotional connection with both people, then it's cohabitating?

Also, remind me why we should give a shiat about this?
 
2014-08-27 09:12:05 PM  

RodneyToady: Also, remind me why we should give a shiat about this?


You probably shouldn't.
 
2014-08-27 09:14:14 PM  
Although, should the polygamy bans get overturned, the community property states are going to be rough. No longer do you keep half, it will always be somewhere less than that and I can imagine difficulty with child custody laws.
 
2014-08-27 09:23:55 PM  

dr_blasto: Although, should the polygamy bans get overturned, the community property states are going to be rough. No longer do you keep half, it will always be somewhere less than that and I can imagine difficulty with child custody laws.


Easy, both halves go to the Lawyers/State.
Dun here.
 
2014-08-27 09:55:28 PM  
I'MMA MARRY EVERYBODY!
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2014-08-27 10:15:35 PM  
I'm all for polygamy.  I told my wife I want to marry a second wife and she said "I'm all for it, just as long as she can cook and clean".

DONE!
 
2014-08-27 10:30:05 PM  

snocone: dr_blasto: Although, should the polygamy bans get overturned, the community property states are going to be rough. No longer do you keep half, it will always be somewhere less than that and I can imagine difficulty with child custody laws.

Easy, both halves go to the Lawyers/State.
Dun here.


so, no change?
 
2014-08-27 10:40:37 PM  

HawgWild: I'MMA MARRY EVERYBODY!


Lulz.
 
2014-08-27 10:54:21 PM  
Turtle marriage here we come....
 
2014-08-27 10:59:14 PM  

NFA: I'm all for polygamy.  I told my wife I want to marry a second wife and she said "I'm all for it, just as long as she can cook and clean".

DONE!


Wanted. Nanny with benefits.
 
2014-08-27 11:10:33 PM  
If anyone wishes to subject themselves to multiple spouses, it's there own damn look out as far as I'm concerned

/had multiple spouses
//just not at the same time
 
2014-08-27 11:43:57 PM  

RodneyToady: Does anyone know what "cohabitating" actually requires?  Like, I would imagine if a married couple rents a room in their house to a single person, that's not cohabitating.  If one (or both) are having sex with that single person, that may be cohabitating? Though it shouldn't be, since it could just be a sex thing.  But if (let's use the easy to picture version) the married guy is having sex with his wife and the single person, and also has an emotional connection with both people, then it's cohabitating?

Also, remind me why we should give a shiat about this?


From Wikipedia

Cohabitation
Cohabitation is an arrangement where two people who are not married live together in an emotionally and/or sexually intimate relationship on a long-term or permanent basis. "Cohabitation" usually refers to unmarried couples who live together without formally registering their relation as a marriage.


So, couple renting a room for a weekend and having sex with that person not cohabitation because it's not long term.

Joey and Chandler living together not cohabitation because they aren't sexually or emotionally intimate.

Monica and Rachel living together cohabitation because of the sexually intimate relationship.

/or was that just in my dreams?
 
2014-08-27 11:56:47 PM  

abb3w: Turtle marriage here we come....


thewackydeli.com
 
2014-08-28 12:08:10 AM  
Polygamy ain't easy
 
2014-08-28 12:10:47 AM  

dr_blasto: Although, should the polygamy bans get overturned, the community property states are going to be rough. No longer do you keep half, it will always be somewhere less than that and I can imagine difficulty with child custody laws.


Three words: Save your receipts.
 
2014-08-28 12:10:55 AM  
Mods overturning misogyny bans?
 
2014-08-28 12:11:11 AM  
Again, if they're all consenting adults, why should I care? People can choose for themselves how they want to live.
 
2014-08-28 12:13:26 AM  
This actually happened in December.  This ruling was just limited to the scope of damages to be awarded.
 
2014-08-28 12:14:48 AM  
Imagine having two wives. You could get biatched at in stereo.
 
2014-08-28 12:16:25 AM  

snocone: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...
The dead rising from the grave!


Dogs and cats living together...MASS HISTERIA!!
 
2014-08-28 12:19:05 AM  
Fathers marrying adult sons are next, using the "Hey, it's two consenting adults!" argument.

/when ridiculing me for this not being the same, justify what you base your morals on then
 
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2014-08-28 12:19:12 AM  

jdmorgan82: Imagine having two wives. You could get biatched at in stereo.


Whooa misogyny alert!  Fark bannerators, shut down this man's free speech stat!
 
2014-08-28 12:20:14 AM  

the_foo: Again, if they're all consenting adults, why should I care? People can choose for themselves how they want to live.


I have no problems with poly families in the non-legal, multiple committed partners sense. I really don't have a problem with them in the legally-married sense, but I  am aware that allowing it legally would be a complete and total  biatch when it comes to figuring out the laws. As far as the law is concerned, same-sex couples are easy to handle in almost every case: you might have to change some forms, but the legal system in most countries (that I am aware of) is set to easily handle two people being married.

Three people, though, would require a major rewrite of the legal code, especially since pretty much every system that previously allowed multiple spouses (again, that I am aware of) was very heavily into the "wives as property" gig rather than the "multiple partners on an even level of legal right". There really isn't an easy form to follow compared to same-sex marriage, which is simply heterosexual-only marriage with the serial numbers filed off.
 
2014-08-28 12:20:18 AM  
Polygamy is stupid, but it shouldn't be illegal.

Marrying two women should be punishment enough for a lifetime.
 
2014-08-28 12:21:05 AM  
I don't see the problem with polygamy as long as it involves consenting adults.
 
2014-08-28 12:23:12 AM  
Colombia actually has a law on the books that handles it.  You cannot be legally married per se, but if you live with two+ women and are lucky enough to have relations with both of them, and it goes past the two year mark, they are awarded all rights as in a common law marriage, they get your stuff.

I knew a cabbie who had two houses and a woman and a kid in each house, and he lived in one house one week, and the other the next, and both families got together for sunday dinner, and all three were very much in love.

I have already picked out my second wife, but she nor my wife or having any thoughts of complying with my wishes.
 
2014-08-28 12:23:32 AM  

Alleyoop: Fathers marrying adult sons are next, using the "Hey, it's two consenting adults!" argument.

/when ridiculing me for this not being the same, justify what you base your morals on then


Since there is no chance of either of them getting pregnant in that scenario, it's probably already legal in some states.

Not in the mood for googling incest laws, though.
 
2014-08-28 12:23:56 AM  

dr_blasto: Although, should the polygamy bans get overturned, the community property states are going to be rough. No longer do you keep half, it will always be somewhere less than that and I can imagine difficulty with child custody laws.


Polygamous people problems - seriously.

As long all involved are consenting adults and agree to marriage I'm all for it.  It might be rough on any kids who don't have a say in the matter, but isn't that how it always is?

Another difficulty is if you have 2 wives and you're in a vegetative state.  Who gets to decide whether to pull the plug?  The first wife?  The most recent wife?  Solution:  Always have an odd number of wives and put it to a vote.

Just kidding, it should probably be unanimous in absence of a living will of some sort.

/I don't want multiple wives.
//Nor do I want to share a wife with another husband.
///The latter probably doesn't happen as often.
 
2014-08-28 12:28:20 AM  
I can't entirely disagree with the judge in this one. I'm not a fan of Polygamy, but I respect their freedom to do it. Let the hardcore Christian fundies fight this one, then chastise them for pushing hard for a Mormon afterwards. They'll be too blinded by rage to see the Hypocracy in their argument of Jesus and Freedom.
 
2014-08-28 12:28:23 AM  
thunderlutz.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-08-28 12:28:55 AM  

Kozaru: I don't see the problem with polygamy as long as it involves consenting adults.


There isn't any inherent problem with it. The primary problem is that Religious Group A decided that they didn't want Religious Group B to do things differently than Religious Group A does... and really... isn't that pretty much the problem with just about everything?
 
2014-08-28 12:31:05 AM  

iron_city_ap: I can't entirely disagree with the judge in this one. I'm not a fan of Polygamy, but I respect their freedom to do it. Let the hardcore Christian fundies fight this one, then chastise them for pushing hard for a Mormon afterwards. They'll be too blinded by rage to see the Hypocracy in their argument of Jesus and Freedom.


Polygamy is fine as long as all the women are no more than, say, 5 years younger than the "man" in question.

The real problem with polygamy is that the "man" is often 40 and the child is 16.
 
2014-08-28 12:31:29 AM  

dr_blasto: RodneyToady: Also, remind me why we should give a shiat about this?

You probably shouldn't.


Same with gay marriage. Farking attention wh0res.
 
2014-08-28 12:31:38 AM  
When you combine the two:
1.bp.blogspot.com

"I'm Larry, this is my husband Darryl, and this is my other husband Darryl."
 
2014-08-28 12:32:24 AM  

Big Ramifications: dr_blasto: RodneyToady: Also, remind me why we should give a shiat about this?

You probably shouldn't.

Same with gay marriage. Farking attention wh0res.


Yeah because civil rights are just people talking shiat and they should STFU.

I agree, man. How do you keep your hood so white? What's your brand of bleach?
 
2014-08-28 12:34:18 AM  

JohnnyC: Kozaru: I don't see the problem with polygamy as long as it involves consenting adults.

There isn't any inherent problem with it. The primary problem is that Religious Group A decided that they didn't want Religious Group B to do things differently than Religious Group A does... and really... isn't that pretty much the problem with just about everything?


Group A just supported a member of Group B to be President because the other side supported a guy who Group A claims is an ultra top secret member of Group C, even though he isn't. Or is extremely bad at it, IF he is. Now Group A has to take a sand against Group B or risk losing votes, but, fighting group B will also cost votes.

Not much room left in that corner and plenty of wet paint.
 
2014-08-28 12:35:26 AM  
Just have them form corporations.
 
2014-08-28 12:35:26 AM  

BMFPitt: Not in the mood for googling incest laws, though.


Alabama and Mississippi have some of the toughest incest laws in the nation - without it, the marriage is not valid
 
2014-08-28 12:35:57 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: iron_city_ap: I can't entirely disagree with the judge in this one. I'm not a fan of Polygamy, but I respect their freedom to do it. Let the hardcore Christian fundies fight this one, then chastise them for pushing hard for a Mormon afterwards. They'll be too blinded by rage to see the Hypocracy in their argument of Jesus and Freedom.

Polygamy is fine as long as all the women are no more than, say, 5 years younger than the "man" in question.

The real problem with polygamy is that the "man" is often 40 and the child is 16.


I agree on that.
 
2014-08-28 12:36:38 AM  

jdmorgan82: Imagine having two wives. You could get biatched at in stereo.


But I was told that life's the same when you're moving in stereo.
 
2014-08-28 12:36:57 AM  

JohnnyC: isn't that pretty much the problem with just about everything?


Almost.
 
2014-08-28 12:37:20 AM  

whidbey: Big Ramifications: dr_blasto: RodneyToady: Also, remind me why we should give a shiat about this?

You probably shouldn't.

Same with gay marriage. Farking attention wh0res.

Yeah because civil rights are just people talking shiat and they should STFU.

I agree, man. How do you keep your hood so white? What's your brand of bleach?


its not bleach its calgon
 
2014-08-28 12:37:38 AM  
If its between grown consenting adults, I have no problem with this.
 
2014-08-28 12:37:48 AM  

iron_city_ap: I agree on that.


I knew I liked you for a reason.
 
2014-08-28 12:38:51 AM  

TDBoedy: whidbey: Big Ramifications: dr_blasto: RodneyToady: Also, remind me why we should give a shiat about this?

You probably shouldn't.

Same with gay marriage. Farking attention wh0res.

Yeah because civil rights are just people talking shiat and they should STFU.

I agree, man. How do you keep your hood so white? What's your brand of bleach?

its not bleach its calgon


Calgon...take me away...from these mean libs trying to destroy mah TRADITIONS
 
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