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(BBC-US)   Scientists 'flip' bad memories into good ones in mice, which is kind of the exact opposite of what happened when you rolled over this morning and saw who you brought home from the bar last night   (bbc.com) divider line 63
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2014-08-27 07:38:40 PM
Get your ass to Mars!
 
2014-08-27 07:54:08 PM
I don't really have bad memories. After so much time, I lose all emotional connection to the past. They are just images I conjure in my head.
 
2014-08-27 08:16:57 PM
bargeek.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-08-27 08:23:59 PM
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Oh shiat oh shiat oh shiat Wheee... That was fun!
 
2014-08-27 09:09:47 PM
What could possibly go wrong?
 
2014-08-27 09:27:24 PM
I'm suddenly reminded of the first Recluse novel for some reason.
 
2014-08-27 09:57:55 PM
Should I not have done that?
I am truly sorry, your Judgeship, but they flipped me.
 
2014-08-27 11:03:48 PM
No.

Dealing with the bad is part of life and what makes the good so good. Enjoy your Brave New World kids, I'm glad I will be too old or gone before this shiat is ready for humans.
 
2014-08-27 11:05:40 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: No.

Dealing with the bad is part of life and what makes the good so good. Enjoy your Brave New World kids, I'm glad I will be too old or gone before this shiat is ready for humans.


And some people's heads get so messed up by memories they are non functional.

Should someone with a broken back not get painkillers because it's a part of life?

I have no problem with someone choosing to have this.
 
2014-08-27 11:06:45 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: No.

Dealing with the bad is part of life and what makes the good so good. Enjoy your Brave New World kids, I'm glad I will be too old or gone before this shiat is ready for humans.


flipping all those memories of old people complaining is gonna be awesome!
 
2014-08-27 11:07:35 PM

Unknown_Poltroon: Ow! That was my feelings!: No.

Dealing with the bad is part of life and what makes the good so good. Enjoy your Brave New World kids, I'm glad I will be too old or gone before this shiat is ready for humans.

And some people's heads get so messed up by memories they are non functional.

Should someone with a broken back not get painkillers because it's a part of life?

I have no problem with someone choosing to have this.


Sure, personal choice.  Not mine, however.
 
2014-08-27 11:08:02 PM

8 inches: Get your ass to Mars!


Wet a towel and wrap it around your head.
 
2014-08-27 11:09:01 PM

PirateFreedom: Ow! That was my feelings!: No.

Dealing with the bad is part of life and what makes the good so good. Enjoy your Brave New World kids, I'm glad I will be too old or gone before this shiat is ready for humans.

flipping all those memories of old people complaining is gonna be awesome!


I'm my day we had drugs and we were happy to have them.
 
2014-08-27 11:13:21 PM
Bringing home strange after a blackout bar trip... on a Tuesday night??

My advise to you is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir!
 
2014-08-27 11:14:19 PM
Gleemonex?
 
2014-08-27 11:26:06 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: No.

Dealing with the bad is part of life and what makes the good so good. Enjoy your Brave New World kids, I'm glad I will be too old or gone before this shiat is ready for humans.


Maybe, or maybe you're just too old and too cryptofascist. For all you know, that's just another "I tell you what! When I was a kid..." onion-wearing musing; could be that life is very much more awesome this way.
 
2014-08-27 11:26:58 PM
"We can't ask the mouse what it's thinking," commented Prof Richard Morris

I'm going to guess: "Squeek."
 
2014-08-27 11:30:04 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Ow! That was my feelings!: No.

Dealing with the bad is part of life and what makes the good so good. Enjoy your Brave New World kids, I'm glad I will be too old or gone before this shiat is ready for humans.

Maybe, or maybe you're just too old and too cryptofascist. For all you know, that's just another "I tell you what! When I was a kid..." onion-wearing musing; could be that life is very much more awesome this way.


Sorry, no one who uses the word "cryptofascist" non-ironically is allowed to participate in human conversation. You are required to return to your cell for further neural reprogramming.
 
2014-08-27 11:30:09 PM

Unknown_Poltroon: Ow! That was my feelings!: No.

Dealing with the bad is part of life and what makes the good so good. Enjoy your Brave New World kids, I'm glad I will be too old or gone before this shiat is ready for humans.

And some people's heads get so messed up by memories they are non functional.

Should someone with a broken back not get painkillers because it's a part of life?

I have no problem with someone choosing to have this.


There's definitely a gray area there, and lots of debate to be had about where to draw the line.  I certainly see your point.  I also think about how much I've learned from my mistakes and some of the painful experiences I've had, and I know I'm better off for having them.  I also know I'm lucky because I haven't had any that were completely horrific, in terms of what some people have experienced.  I can certainly see how someone who was forcibly raped over and over by her father while growing up may want to wipe those memories.  I can also see how society would be weaker if everyone could just choose to remember that night they went to detox as happy fun.
 
2014-08-27 11:31:51 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Ow! That was my feelings!: No.

Dealing with the bad is part of life and what makes the good so good. Enjoy your Brave New World kids, I'm glad I will be too old or gone before this shiat is ready for humans.

Maybe, or maybe you're just too old and too cryptofascist. For all you know, that's just another "I tell you what! When I was a kid..." onion-wearing musing; could be that life is very much more awesome this way.


Maybe. Have fun!
 
2014-08-27 11:31:53 PM
We already have this. Cocaine turns all your bad feelings into good feelings - it's a nightmare!
 
2014-08-27 11:36:24 PM

Son of Thunder: ArcadianRefugee: Ow! That was my feelings!: No.

Dealing with the bad is part of life and what makes the good so good. Enjoy your Brave New World kids, I'm glad I will be too old or gone before this shiat is ready for humans.

Maybe, or maybe you're just too old and too cryptofascist. For all you know, that's just another "I tell you what! When I was a kid..." onion-wearing musing; could be that life is very much more awesome this way.

Sorry, no one who uses the word "cryptofascist" non-ironically is allowed to participate in human conversation. You are required to return to your cell for further neural reprogramming.


Too old, and too cryptofascist.

static3.wikia.nocookie.net

/you sadden me
/Ummmm........
 
2014-08-27 11:38:20 PM
So mice want to chew their arms off too?
 
2014-08-27 11:41:43 PM
The scientists now believe that a place memory, stored in brain cells of the hippocampus, can "call up" different sets of neurons in the amygdala, invoking either good or bad emotions

i.imgur.com

Is intrigued by these developments...
 
2014-08-27 11:43:06 PM
...the exact opposite of what happened when you rolled over this morning and saw who you brought home from the bar last night.

Hey,  she brought  me home!  Ooooooooh.  You weren't talking to me, were you?
 
2014-08-27 11:45:42 PM
Scientists 'flip' bad memories into good ones in mice, which is kind of the exact opposite of what happened when you rolled over this morning and saw who you brought home from the bar last night

First of all you shouldn't talk that way about your mother.
 
2014-08-27 11:46:33 PM
Makes me wish I had three hands.
 
2014-08-27 11:46:55 PM

jtown: ...the exact opposite of what happened when you rolled over this morning and saw who you brought home from the bar last night.

Hey,  she brought  me home!  Ooooooooh.  You weren't talking to me, were you?


Still having to pay her to leave only makes it slightly better.
 
2014-08-27 11:52:45 PM

trappedspirit: Scientists 'flip' bad memories into good ones in mice, which is kind of the exact opposite of what happened when you rolled over this morning and saw who you brought home from the bar last night

First of all you shouldn't talk that way about your mother.


Two guys are sitting at the bar. One turns to the other and screams, "I slept with your mother!" The bar gets quiet as everyone listens to see what the other guy will do. The first again yells, "I SLEPT WITH YOUR MOTHER!"

The other says, "Go home dad you're drunk."

/nuthin'
 
2014-08-27 11:55:09 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: ArcadianRefugee: Ow! That was my feelings!: No.

Dealing with the bad is part of life and what makes the good so good. Enjoy your Brave New World kids, I'm glad I will be too old or gone before this shiat is ready for humans.

Maybe, or maybe you're just too old and too cryptofascist. For all you know, that's just another "I tell you what! When I was a kid..." onion-wearing musing; could be that life is very much more awesome this way.

Maybe. Have fun!


I have often thought about this.  I don't know why.  Because this kind of thing is not something you can experiment with and decide the best course of action from.  It's an extension of the question, "Do we only appreciate the 'ups' because we have experienced the 'downs'?"

Certainly there is an element of understanding ourselves and what we are capable of that will only surface when we are met with a problem.  But if we can completely eliminate that problem, and do so, doesn't it make the notion of standing up to that specific form of adversity seem like an archaic rite of passage that really could be set aside if the environment had matured enough?

/fart
//batman
 
2014-08-27 11:56:21 PM
images.wikia.com

"Dr. Mindberer'ssssss work is coming along nicesssssly."
 
2014-08-27 11:59:31 PM
Nobody's going to be queuing up to have light guides inserted into their brain and have blue light shone down into it.

Unless they were in Sydney back in the day....

www.helgeroe.com
 
2014-08-28 12:01:52 AM

Son of Thunder: "We can't ask the mouse what it's thinking," commented Prof Richard Morris

I'm going to guess: "Squeek."


I would guess:"Narf!"
 
2014-08-28 12:05:46 AM
I needs dis....

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"And the tone was set in the first game when Eckersley struck out the struggling pinch hitter, Kirk Gibson, as the A's went on to sweep the feeble, overmatched Dodgers."

i291.photobucket.com

/not bitter
//still
///nope
 
2014-08-28 12:09:48 AM

trappedspirit: Ow! That was my feelings!: ArcadianRefugee: Ow! That was my feelings!: No.

Dealing with the bad is part of life and what makes the good so good. Enjoy your Brave New World kids, I'm glad I will be too old or gone before this shiat is ready for humans.

Maybe, or maybe you're just too old and too cryptofascist. For all you know, that's just another "I tell you what! When I was a kid..." onion-wearing musing; could be that life is very much more awesome this way.

Maybe. Have fun!

I have often thought about this.  I don't know why.  Because this kind of thing is not something you can experiment with and decide the best course of action from.  It's an extension of the question, "Do we only appreciate the 'ups' because we have experienced the 'downs'?"

Certainly there is an element of understanding ourselves and what we are capable of that will only surface when we are met with a problem.  But if we can completely eliminate that problem, and do so, doesn't it make the notion of standing up to that specific form of adversity seem like an archaic rite of passage that really could be set aside if the environment had matured enough?

/fart
//batman


Your character and who you become are molded by your life experiences, good and bad. I think detaching the two would make a person lost. I fully understand myself, warts and all. I would never want to lose that understanding, I would lose myself.

But people will experiment with this tech and that's fine. Could be useful to a badly traumatized individual. But I personally am not interested in that experiment.
 
2014-08-28 12:16:26 AM

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Oh shiat oh shiat oh shiat Wheee... That was fun!


Retch-A-Rat Tomcat?

/is a bit stoned
 
2014-08-28 12:27:20 AM
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TFA: "We can't ask the mouse what it's thinking," commented Prof Richard Morris, an eminent memory researcher from the University of Edinburgh who was not involved in the study.

Brain: That's what I've been trying to tell your species for a quarter of a century.
Pinky: I think so, Professor, but if you turn this light on, how are we to behave in relation to whatever gets evoked?
Brain: Silence, Pinky, or I shall have to huoptogenetic-amygdala-hypothalamus-link-flips-stateg you.
 
2014-08-28 12:27:43 AM
I went to bed with my wife and woke up to my pet beagle using me as her cushion and demanding chest rubs. So overall, not so bad.
 
2014-08-28 12:45:35 AM

Ow! That was my feelings!: trappedspirit: Ow! That was my feelings!: ArcadianRefugee: Ow! That was my feelings!: No.

Dealing with the bad is part of life and what makes the good so good. Enjoy your Brave New World kids, I'm glad I will be too old or gone before this shiat is ready for humans.

Maybe, or maybe you're just too old and too cryptofascist. For all you know, that's just another "I tell you what! When I was a kid..." onion-wearing musing; could be that life is very much more awesome this way.

Maybe. Have fun!

I have often thought about this.  I don't know why.  Because this kind of thing is not something you can experiment with and decide the best course of action from.  It's an extension of the question, "Do we only appreciate the 'ups' because we have experienced the 'downs'?"

Certainly there is an element of understanding ourselves and what we are capable of that will only surface when we are met with a problem.  But if we can completely eliminate that problem, and do so, doesn't it make the notion of standing up to that specific form of adversity seem like an archaic rite of passage that really could be set aside if the environment had matured enough?

/fart
//batman

Your character and who you become are molded by your life experiences, good and bad. I think detaching the two would make a person lost. I fully understand myself, warts and all. I would never want to lose that understanding, I would lose myself.

But people will experiment with this tech and that's fine. Could be useful to a badly traumatized individual. But I personally am not interested in that experiment.


Could be used the other way. What do you think negative reinforcement, like imprisonment or violent, does.

\pick up that can
 
2014-08-28 01:00:43 AM

gozar_the_destroyer: Ow! That was my feelings!: trappedspirit: Ow! That was my feelings!: ArcadianRefugee: Ow! That was my feelings!: No.

Dealing with the bad is part of life and what makes the good so good. Enjoy your Brave New World kids, I'm glad I will be too old or gone before this shiat is ready for humans.

Maybe, or maybe you're just too old and too cryptofascist. For all you know, that's just another "I tell you what! When I was a kid..." onion-wearing musing; could be that life is very much more awesome this way.

Maybe. Have fun!

I have often thought about this.  I don't know why.  Because this kind of thing is not something you can experiment with and decide the best course of action from.  It's an extension of the question, "Do we only appreciate the 'ups' because we have experienced the 'downs'?"

Certainly there is an element of understanding ourselves and what we are capable of that will only surface when we are met with a problem.  But if we can completely eliminate that problem, and do so, doesn't it make the notion of standing up to that specific form of adversity seem like an archaic rite of passage that really could be set aside if the environment had matured enough?

/fart
//batman

Your character and who you become are molded by your life experiences, good and bad. I think detaching the two would make a person lost. I fully understand myself, warts and all. I would never want to lose that understanding, I would lose myself.

But people will experiment with this tech and that's fine. Could be useful to a badly traumatized individual. But I personally am not interested in that experiment.

Could be used the other way. What do you think negative reinforcement, like imprisonment or violent, does.

\pick up that can


Back to my Brave New World comment. Although, that's probably not the best analogy.
 
2014-08-28 01:31:57 AM
 
2014-08-28 02:09:33 AM
Headline reported for misogyny. Drunk sex is never consensual. You just made light of two rapes.
 
2014-08-28 02:26:58 AM
We can't get rid of the memory of you being securely abused by your uncle, but we can make it so you remember enjoying the he'll out of it.
 
2014-08-28 02:28:10 AM
That was funnier before auto correct changed sexually to securely.
 
2014-08-28 03:56:15 AM
Does that mean Richard Gere would be inside the gerbil?
 
2014-08-28 03:57:01 AM

Likwit: Headline reported for misogyny. Drunk sex is never consensual. You just made light of two rapes.


Like rape rape?
 
2014-08-28 04:29:50 AM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: I can certainly see how someone who was forcibly raped over and over by her father while growing up may want to wipe those memories.  I can also see how society would be weaker if everyone could just choose to remember that night they went to detox as happy fun.


Depends. Is she being pressured by the rest of the family to come over for thanksgiving this year?
If so, she might want to hold on to that memory, at least enough to lock the door to that childhood bedroom.
 
2014-08-28 04:30:12 AM

The Angry Hand of God: Likwit: Headline reported for misogyny. Drunk sex is never consensual. You just made light of two rapes.

Like rape rape?


All three of our comments will be deleted, because trigger words and thoughtcrime. Way to go, man.
 
2014-08-28 05:33:27 AM

Son of Thunder: "We can't ask the mouse what it's thinking," commented Prof Richard Morris

I'm going to guess: "Squeek."


"I want to go back to Magrathea "
 
2014-08-28 05:53:40 AM
flavorwire.files.wordpress.com
This has weaponzation written all over it. It'll be advanced by 'humanitarian' interests and the Fedgov. PROGRESS!
/blackwhite
 
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