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(KATU)   If you are waiting on the delivery of a 70-ton turbine, it's gonna be a little late   (katu.com) divider line 121
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-08-27 06:40:18 PM  
It rolled to the inside of the ramp. Was the ramp too sharply banked?  In my area banking ("superelevation") is limited to 6-8% so slow moving vehicles don't slide sideways when the road ices.
 
2014-08-27 06:45:42 PM  
Be happy it wasn't hauling antimatter and have the containment field open,,,,
 
2014-08-27 06:46:52 PM  
Well, how are they ever going to build that monorail now?
 
2014-08-27 06:52:13 PM  
♫ Turn, turn, turn... ♫
 
2014-08-27 07:31:12 PM  
Yeah, I saw that picture on the Register Guard website this morning. Not gonna be easy removing that either.
 
2014-08-27 07:45:55 PM  
Why isn't the tractor still attached to the trailer?
 
2014-08-27 08:02:29 PM  
"Traffic is backed up as faaaar as this reporter can see."
 
2014-08-27 08:36:11 PM  
Photo of delivery truck driver:
logisticsviewpoints.com
 
2014-08-27 08:41:28 PM  
does it come with a microphone?
 
2014-08-27 08:43:49 PM  
mmimageslarge.moviemail-online.co.uk

I could wait a while...but it would mess with space-time.
 
2014-08-27 08:45:57 PM  
ecx.images-amazon.com

Oh....Never mind!
 
2014-08-27 08:46:14 PM  
But what about the turbine? Is the turbine ok? Cause that will be expensive if they have to throw it out.
 
2014-08-27 08:48:28 PM  

Barfmaker: Why isn't the tractor still attached to the trailer?


 My bet. The driver slowed down to take the off ramp and ended up going too slow. The center of gravity shifted outside the wheel base and ripped the whole thing off the truck and rolled to the inside of the road.

I honestly think this in large part wasn't the driver's fault. But we all know they're going to be fired anyway, because SCAPEGOAT!
 
2014-08-27 08:50:16 PM  

nytmare: But what about the turbine? Is the turbine ok? Cause that will be expensive if they have to throw it out.


Oh the turbine is toast. 50 tons at even the 4 feet it dropped put the whole thing out of round. F=MA and M was huge.
 
2014-08-27 08:51:33 PM  

nytmare: But what about the turbine? Is the turbine ok? Cause that will be expensive if they have to throw it out.


Is there an equivalent to CarFax for turbines?
I'd be pissed if I bought a turbine, only to find out later it had been involved in a rollover.
 
2014-08-27 08:58:11 PM  
What 70 tons of turbines might look like......

sikhsiyasat.net
 
2014-08-27 08:59:30 PM  
The turbine is not for sale.
 
2014-08-27 08:59:38 PM  

ajgeek: nytmare: But what about the turbine? Is the turbine ok? Cause that will be expensive if they have to throw it out.

Oh the turbine is toast. 50 tons at even the 4 feet it dropped put the whole thing out of round. F=MA and M was huge.


Curious about the turbines fate. Am sure there's some damage. Just wondering if its totaled or fixable

Pix don't say much
 
2014-08-27 09:02:01 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Not gonna be easy removing that either.


Oh, just leave it unattended on the side of the road and somebody will snatch it up quick.
There'll be a 70-ton turbine on a table at the flea market Saturday morning.
 
2014-08-27 09:02:39 PM  
Subby's mom's dildo will be late?
 
2014-08-27 09:03:26 PM  

Barfmaker: Why isn't the tractor still attached to the trailer?


The picture I saw on the mobile site was from the rear of the trailer. Due to the curve of the road it wouldn't have been visible even if it was still attached.

Says the tractor was still upright though. That load should have had enough torque to have rolled the tractor unless the rolling had more to do with mechanical failure than anything else.

There was an article recently in Road King magazine about fifth wheel failures becoming more common. Usually it is maintenance. Far too many ASE certified mechanics put way too much grease on the platform, and particularly younger drivers follow their lead. Too much grease traps grit and it works down into the mechanism causing it to come open. Easy fix: follow the farking guidelines. Use the little packets.

I've seen tractors sitting in terminals for new drivers slathered with grease. The entire plate is covered. New guy sees that and he is going to think that is normal. It is way too much.

The opposite can be true, too little can also cause fifth wheel failure but my understanding is that when it happens on the road it is usually too much.

It could also be that in this instance they already freed the kingpin and hauled the tractor away. That is often a cleanup priority if the trailer isn't going anywhere anyway.

You just don't play around with loads like that. It could have been that someone ahead of the truck did something erratic and rolling it might have been the only way of avoiding an accident. I've seen trucks take a ditch to avoid passenger vehicles doing stupid stuff even before I started driving.
 
2014-08-27 09:04:04 PM  
For the last three weeks and 3,000 miles, Arthur Tseona has had a 69-ton turbine in the back of his semitrailer, that tipped over one block from its destination today, shutting down a Springfield street for several hours.
 
2014-08-27 09:07:22 PM  
That's going to spin up the commuters.
 
2014-08-27 09:09:13 PM  

ani23: For the last three weeks and 3,000 miles, Arthur Tseona has had a 69-ton turbine in the back of his semitrailer, that tipped over one block from its destination today, shutting down a Springfield street for several hours.


Guess it was getting too old for this shiat.
 
2014-08-27 09:10:16 PM  

I Put Ketchup On My Smoked Brisket: Says the tractor was still upright though. That load should have had enough torque to have rolled the tractor


The tractor remained upright because of the specialized nature of the trailer. A multiple axle bogey was attached to the tractor, the trailer rested on the bogey for weight distribution.
 
2014-08-27 09:10:37 PM  
The last distraction.
 
2014-08-27 09:13:48 PM  

I Put Ketchup On My Smoked Brisket: I've seen trucks take a ditch to avoid passenger vehicles doing stupid stuff even before I started driving.


I know we all would like to think we invented something new in the world, but stupid stuff was going on long before you got behind the wheel.
 
2014-08-27 09:19:11 PM  
ramps are the worst.  when i was a trainee for Werner back in 2007, i dreaded those yellow "twenty-five MPH" signs.  almost rolled the truck a few times.  my trainer
got so angry with me, he was screaming "THAT IS DANGEROUS!" at me.  once i slammed the brakes just before the off-ramp, and a big-screen TV got smashed up
inside the trailer; it fell right out at our destination when the door was opened.  but they didn't blame me.

anyhow, i lasted only three months before i quit.
 
2014-08-27 09:21:26 PM  
Fake.  Everyone knows that the state in which Springfield is located has never been revealed.
 
2014-08-27 09:21:54 PM  

TheOther: I Put Ketchup On My Smoked Brisket: I've seen trucks take a ditch to avoid passenger vehicles doing stupid stuff even before I started driving.

I know we all would like to think we invented something new in the world, but stupid stuff was going on long before you got behind the wheel.


His point is that you're more likely to see that stuff if you're spending all yours hours on the road. So if you see it as a layman, you know it's commonplace.
 
2014-08-27 09:26:00 PM  
Hell, I coulda done that.  And I don't even know how to drive a truck.
 
2014-08-27 09:27:02 PM  
The turbine was being hauled from Kansas to a facility in Springfield and was about a mile from its destination when the trailer rolled onto its side...

I guess it's just like delivering high speed internet.  That last mile is the hard part.
 
2014-08-27 09:27:09 PM  

ani23: ajgeek: nytmare: But what about the turbine? Is the turbine ok? Cause that will be expensive if they have to throw it out.

Oh the turbine is toast. 50 tons at even the 4 feet it dropped put the whole thing out of round. F=MA and M was huge.

Curious about the turbines fate. Am sure there's some damage. Just wondering if its totaled or fixable

Pix don't say much


In the case of turbines the tolerances on them are in the 0.0005 in range. That's 5/10,000 of one inch on the "loose" parts. Other things have much tighter tolerances, particularly the drive shaft, which runs the entire length. The more that's lopsided (and these numbers start getting *really* small, in the millionths of an inch range), the more vibration during operation and the shorter the operational lifespan. When you buy a 70 ton turbine, you're spending real money and you *really* don't want that to die in a year. A rollover is a deal breaker, period.

/mechanical engineer (almost)
//Degree next may, FE exam not long from now.
 
2014-08-27 09:28:51 PM  

nytmare: But what about the turbine? Is the turbine ok? Cause that will be expensive if they have to throw it out.


Oh, that'll buff out no problem.
 
2014-08-27 09:30:25 PM  

ajgeek: ani23: ajgeek: nytmare: But what about the turbine? Is the turbine ok? Cause that will be expensive if they have to throw it out.

Oh the turbine is toast. 50 tons at even the 4 feet it dropped put the whole thing out of round. F=MA and M was huge.

Curious about the turbines fate. Am sure there's some damage. Just wondering if its totaled or fixable

Pix don't say much

In the case of turbines the tolerances on them are in the 0.0005 in range. That's 5/10,000 of one inch on the "loose" parts. Other things have much tighter tolerances, particularly the drive shaft, which runs the entire length. The more that's lopsided (and these numbers start getting *really* small, in the millionths of an inch range), the more vibration during operation and the shorter the operational lifespan. When you buy a 70 ton turbine, you're spending real money and you *really* don't want that to die in a year. A rollover is a deal breaker, period.

/mechanical engineer (almost)
//Degree next may, FE exam not long from now.


What are turbines that huge used for?
/Just wondering
 
2014-08-27 09:31:29 PM  
They usually just leave these things on your porch if you're not home.
 
2014-08-27 09:32:49 PM  

ani23: ajgeek: nytmare: But what about the turbine? Is the turbine ok? Cause that will be expensive if they have to throw it out.

Oh the turbine is toast. 50 tons at even the 4 feet it dropped put the whole thing out of round. F=MA and M was huge.

Curious about the turbines fate. Am sure there's some damage. Just wondering if its totaled or fixable

Pix don't say much



You'd have to dismantle and x-ray the whole thing. Prolly cheaper/safer to replace with new one.  Insurance!  Might be able to salvage parts from it though.
 
2014-08-27 09:33:34 PM  

jtown: nytmare: But what about the turbine? Is the turbine ok? Cause that will be expensive if they have to throw it out.

Oh, that'll buff out no problem.


Can they part it out or does the insurance company get full possession when paying the claim?
 
2014-08-27 09:35:39 PM  
Trailer not wide enough
media.katu.com

Trailor wide enough
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2014-08-27 09:35:51 PM  

TheOther: Bathia_Mapes: Not gonna be easy removing that either.

Oh, just leave it unattended on the side of the road and somebody will snatch it up quick.
There'll be a 70-ton turbine on a table at the flea market Saturday morning.


Someone will take it and try selling it for scrap...
 
2014-08-27 09:35:52 PM  
Trailer not wide enough
media.katu.com

Trailer wide enough
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2014-08-27 09:36:58 PM  
Somewhere within this story is either a great country song or a great heavy metal song.
 
2014-08-27 09:37:26 PM  
I agree with tiny & tiny, they need a wider trailer
 
2014-08-27 09:38:46 PM  

Trailltrader: Be happy it wasn't hauling antimatter and have the containment field open,,,,


Nuclear weapons are routinely transported on Interstates by inconspicuous trucks.  http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/02/nuclear-truckers
 
2014-08-27 09:44:10 PM  

ajgeek: ani23: ajgeek: nytmare: But what about the turbine? Is the turbine ok? Cause that will be expensive if they have to throw it out.

Oh the turbine is toast. 50 tons at even the 4 feet it dropped put the whole thing out of round. F=MA and M was huge.

Curious about the turbines fate. Am sure there's some damage. Just wondering if its totaled or fixable

Pix don't say much

In the case of turbines the tolerances on them are in the 0.0005 in range. That's 5/10,000 of one inch on the "loose" parts. Other things have much tighter tolerances, particularly the drive shaft, which runs the entire length. The more that's lopsided (and these numbers start getting *really* small, in the millionths of an inch range), the more vibration during operation and the shorter the operational lifespan. When you buy a 70 ton turbine, you're spending real money and you *really* don't want that to die in a year. A rollover is a deal breaker, period.

/mechanical engineer (almost)
//Degree next may, FE exam not long from now.


All true. In addition, the blade shapes (angles, profiles, etc) are held to tight tolerances and a bump like this renders them useless. Anything that spins, or is next to something that spins is scrap. This is 90% of the cost which is a percentage I pulled completely from my nether regions. They can probably save some support structure steel and maybe some instrumentation. Which is nice.
 
2014-08-27 09:45:04 PM  
media.katu.com

I don't see the highway being blocked in this picture. Am I missing something?
 
2014-08-27 09:47:22 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: What are turbines that huge used for?


I'd guess power generation.
 
2014-08-27 09:47:34 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: ajgeek: ani23: ajgeek: nytmare: But what about the turbine? Is the turbine ok? Cause that will be expensive if they have to throw it out.

Oh the turbine is toast. 50 tons at even the 4 feet it dropped put the whole thing out of round. F=MA and M was huge.

Curious about the turbines fate. Am sure there's some damage. Just wondering if its totaled or fixable

Pix don't say much

In the case of turbines the tolerances on them are in the 0.0005 in range. That's 5/10,000 of one inch on the "loose" parts. Other things have much tighter tolerances, particularly the drive shaft, which runs the entire length. The more that's lopsided (and these numbers start getting *really* small, in the millionths of an inch range), the more vibration during operation and the shorter the operational lifespan. When you buy a 70 ton turbine, you're spending real money and you *really* don't want that to die in a year. A rollover is a deal breaker, period.

/mechanical engineer (almost)
//Degree next may, FE exam not long from now.

What are turbines that huge used for?
/Just wondering


Something that big? Most likely power generation.
 
2014-08-27 09:48:07 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: What are turbines that huge used for?
/Just wondering


Pipeline compressor stations use turbines that size. I can't say if that was its intended use, though.
 
2014-08-27 09:50:46 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: What are turbines that huge used for?
/Just wondering


Those ones are almost invariably the power plant. Quite a few places in an industrial setting generate their own energy and use the excess steam for other functions. Or it could have been going to a power plant itself. Given the length that one was likely (I think) an impulse turbine. It pulls a lot of energy out of steam for electricity. There's another turbine that can be hooked up on the far end of this one that is less efficient, but works with lower quality steam.
 
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