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(Globe and Mail)   Problem: Your soldiers keep accidentally ending up on wrong side of border. Canada is here to help   (theglobeandmail.com ) divider line 48
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-08-27 07:22:44 PM  
There's a lot of not-not-Russia on that map. All these worlds are yours except Ukraine. Attempt no landing there.
 
2014-08-27 09:58:22 PM  
Canadians are a naturally helpful people. As a half-Canadian, I often find myself conflicted over whether to follow my Canadian heritage (helping people oot) or my American heritage (farking people over and taking their stuff).
 
2014-08-27 10:05:37 PM  
38.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-08-27 10:06:27 PM  
awesomebmovies.com

USA: You're a pretty good fighter back there. I have this idea. Will you be my body guard? I'll pay fifty cents every day. I'll do your homework for you. I'm pretty smart.

Canada: [imitating USA] Not interested.
 
2014-08-27 10:14:27 PM  
 
2014-08-27 10:35:03 PM  
Well played, America's Hat.
 
2014-08-27 10:37:25 PM  
Particularly cheeky (and, I'm sure, not lost on the Russians) is the fact that the Crimean peninsula is included in the "Not Russia" part of the map.
 
2014-08-27 10:40:13 PM  

Mithiwithi: Particularly cheeky (and, I'm sure, not lost on the Russians) is the fact that the Crimean peninsula is included in the "Not Russia" part of the map.


Still waiting for the drive to the Dneiper, Ukes are pushing things.
 
2014-08-27 10:43:27 PM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Mithiwithi: Particularly cheeky (and, I'm sure, not lost on the Russians) is the fact that the Crimean peninsula is included in the "Not Russia" part of the map.

Still waiting for the drive to the Dneiper, Ukes are pushing things.


So, it's the 'Ukes' pushing things? That is an interesting view of the situation.
 
2014-08-27 10:56:46 PM  
Was (Not Was).
 
2014-08-27 10:59:55 PM  
Russia: CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!
 
2014-08-27 11:00:05 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: tinfoil-hat maggie: Mithiwithi: Particularly cheeky (and, I'm sure, not lost on the Russians) is the fact that the Crimean peninsula is included in the "Not Russia" part of the map.

Still waiting for the drive to the Dneiper, Ukes are pushing things.

So, it's the 'Ukes' pushing things? That is an interesting view of the situation.


Well, asserting your independence and aligning yourself with Europe is a kind of pushing things.
 
2014-08-27 11:05:15 PM  

MFAWG: Ow! That was my feelings!: tinfoil-hat maggie: Mithiwithi: Particularly cheeky (and, I'm sure, not lost on the Russians) is the fact that the Crimean peninsula is included in the "Not Russia" part of the map.

Still waiting for the drive to the Dneiper, Ukes are pushing things.

So, it's the 'Ukes' pushing things? That is an interesting view of the situation.

Well, asserting your independence and aligning yourself with Europe is a kind of pushing things.


If you're Russian.
 
2014-08-27 11:19:23 PM  
The Committee of Soldiers' Mothers reports over 400 Russian soldiers recently killed or wounded.
I'd say Russia is the one who is pushing it.

The Russians are very patriotic and loyal people, however, when lots of soldiers start dying they will want answers.
Just like in Afghanistan. It will be the Russian people who demand an end to it.

Union of the Committees of Soldiers' Mothers of Russia
 
2014-08-27 11:44:55 PM  

fusillade762: [38.media.tumblr.com image 718x402]


And here I would have thought that, along with the Legos title, the Netherlands would have beat out Estonia for "stoners" as well.
 
2014-08-27 11:48:34 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: MFAWG: Ow! That was my feelings!: tinfoil-hat maggie: Mithiwithi: Particularly cheeky (and, I'm sure, not lost on the Russians) is the fact that the Crimean peninsula is included in the "Not Russia" part of the map.

Still waiting for the drive to the Dneiper, Ukes are pushing things.

So, it's the 'Ukes' pushing things? That is an interesting view of the situation.

Well, asserting your independence and aligning yourself with Europe is a kind of pushing things.

If you're Russian.


It's not like they were just going to let Crimea go, is it? I'm not saying it's OK, but did anybody really expect anything else?
 
2014-08-27 11:56:16 PM  

MFAWG: Ow! That was my feelings!: MFAWG: Ow! That was my feelings!: tinfoil-hat maggie: Mithiwithi: Particularly cheeky (and, I'm sure, not lost on the Russians) is the fact that the Crimean peninsula is included in the "Not Russia" part of the map.

Still waiting for the drive to the Dneiper, Ukes are pushing things.

So, it's the 'Ukes' pushing things? That is an interesting view of the situation.

Well, asserting your independence and aligning yourself with Europe is a kind of pushing things.

If you're Russian.

It's not like they were just going to let Crimea go, is it? I'm not saying it's OK, but did anybody really expect anything else?


Well, the Crimea is a different issue than what has been going on in the Donbas the last few months. Although, the Ukrainians are legally, by International law, owners of both.
 
2014-08-28 12:04:59 AM  

MFAWG:

It's not like they were just going to let Crimea go, is it? I'm not saying it's OK, but did anybody really expect anything else?

gatesofvienna.net

Crimea is not the problem. Getting to Crimea is the problem. Russia is now attacking using their own forces. They will have to take:

Donetsk
Mariupol
Berdyansk

and everything in between to get their "land bridge" to Crimea.

And then, they will have to defend the land bridge against constant attacks from Ukrainian forces. Ukraine will be making deals with the West for advanced weapons systems. This will go on and on.

And more Russian soldiers will die, until the Russian people ask, "Why?"

Putin will of course be honest with them, and explain that, because he screwed up a trade deal, he lost "the Ukraine."
And then, like Gorbochev in Afghanistan, Putin will be gone.
 
2014-08-28 12:05:17 AM  
Uhhh, are the Canadians too incompetent to include Kaliningrad Oblast?
 
2014-08-28 12:10:58 AM  

tinyarena: MFAWG:

It's not like they were just going to let Crimea go, is it? I'm not saying it's OK, but did anybody really expect anything else?
[gatesofvienna.net image 594x322]

Crimea is not the problem. Getting to Crimea is the problem. Russia is now attacking using their own forces. They will have to take:

Donetsk
Mariupol
Berdyansk

and everything in between to get their "land bridge" to Crimea.

And then, they will have to defend the land bridge against constant attacks from Ukrainian forces. Ukraine will be making deals with the West for advanced weapons systems. This will go on and on.

And more Russian soldiers will die, until the Russian people ask, "Why?"

Putin will of course be honest with them, and explain that, because he screwed up a trade deal, he lost "the Ukraine."
And then, like Gorbochev in Afghanistan, Putin will be gone.


I don't disagree with any of that. But Russia has been the dominant force in the Black Sea for over a century, and they shed a lot of blood to make that happen.

We wouldn't let Texas just go and align themselves with a coalition of Latin American countries, would we?
 
2014-08-28 12:12:06 AM  

MFAWG: We wouldn't let Texas just go and align themselves with a coalition of Latin American countries, would we?


We would.
 
2014-08-28 12:13:02 AM  

bdub77: MFAWG: We wouldn't let Texas just go and align themselves with a coalition of Latin American countries, would we?

We would.


I don't think so, man. Superpowers gonna superpower in the end.
 
2014-08-28 12:26:25 AM  

MFAWG:
I don't disagree with any of that. But Russia has been the dominant force in the Black Sea for over a century, and they shed a lot of blood to make that happen.

We wouldn't let Texas just go and align themselves with a coalition of Latin American countries, would we?


Well, without trying to write a geopolitical textbook into a Fark thread, let's just say:
#1 The two cases are not analogous
#2 When soldiers start dying, the discussion changes

I am frankly stunned by all of this.
Putin has managed to start a war on Russia's own boarder. Against one of their own allies. Impressive.
 
2014-08-28 12:35:21 AM  

tinyarena: MFAWG:
I don't disagree with any of that. But Russia has been the dominant force in the Black Sea for over a century, and they shed a lot of blood to make that happen.

We wouldn't let Texas just go and align themselves with a coalition of Latin American countries, would we?

Well, without trying to write a geopolitical textbook into a Fark thread, let's just say:
#1 The two cases are not analogous
#2 When soldiers start dying, the discussion changes

I am frankly stunned by all of this.
Putin has managed to start a war on Russia's own boarder. Against one of their own allies. Impressive.


But Ukraine has been looking to fundamentally alter that alliance.

And Russia is not going to let that happen. It's  really not a mystery, nor is it terribly 'Shocking'.

And Putin just happens to be the guy in charge while this is happening.
 
2014-08-28 12:37:17 AM  
No one cares that the map is entirely inaccurate with a Russian Oblast missing? You know, that pesky Baltic one. Idiots.
 
2014-08-28 12:40:43 AM  

MFAWG: We wouldn't let Texas just go


Wouldn't let?

Most of us would cheer and celebrate.
 
2014-08-28 12:43:25 AM  
The Russians err...patriots of the Donetsk People's Republic have captured the port of Novoazovsk, Link
 
2014-08-28 12:48:19 AM  
What a Canadian border may look like:
niche-canada.org
 
2014-08-28 12:49:00 AM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: The Russians err...patriots of the Donetsk People's Republic have captured the port of Novoazovsk, Link


It's a genuine invasion now.

'Ukrainian government forces control the roads leading from the separatist-occupied Donetsk and Luhansk regions in the east, which suggests that the tanks, armored personnel carriers and rocket launchers spotted on the road into Novoazovsk entered Ukraine from Russia rather than separatist-held areas.'

'"Regular Russian units are operating in eastern Ukraine" as well as the local separatists, Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk told lawmakers in Warsaw, attributing the information to Polish intelligence services and NATO.'

Link
 
2014-08-28 12:58:20 AM  

MFAWG: tinyarena: MFAWG:

It's not like they were just going to let Crimea go, is it? I'm not saying it's OK, but did anybody really expect anything else?
[gatesofvienna.net image 594x322]

Crimea is not the problem. Getting to Crimea is the problem. Russia is now attacking using their own forces. They will have to take:

Donetsk
Mariupol
Berdyansk

and everything in between to get their "land bridge" to Crimea.

And then, they will have to defend the land bridge against constant attacks from Ukrainian forces. Ukraine will be making deals with the West for advanced weapons systems. This will go on and on.

And more Russian soldiers will die, until the Russian people ask, "Why?"

Putin will of course be honest with them, and explain that, because he screwed up a trade deal, he lost "the Ukraine."
And then, like Gorbochev in Afghanistan, Putin will be gone.

I don't disagree with any of that. But Russia has been the dominant force in the Black Sea for over a century, and they shed a lot of blood to make that happen.

We wouldn't let Texas just go and align themselves with a coalition of Latin American countries, would we?


Weeeeell...
 
2014-08-28 12:59:49 AM  
Might as well just go this route:

media.theonion.com
 
2014-08-28 01:21:04 AM  
We're sorry your soldiers are so dumb, maybe they need maps!
As our southern neighbours say "Like and such as!"

/sorry
 
2014-08-28 01:33:04 AM  
Don't piss off the Canadistans. They'll get snarky!
 
2014-08-28 01:36:03 AM  

Jormungandr: We're sorry your soldiers are so dumb, maybe they need maps!
As our southern neighbours say "Like and such as!"

/sorry


That was, like, just one stupid beauty contestant from, like, the deep south. /Whole 'nother world below Ohio.
 
2014-08-28 01:52:28 AM  

Ooba Tooba: Don't piss off the Canadistans. They'll get snarky British


ftfm
 
2014-08-28 02:01:50 AM  

tinyarena: Putin has managed to start a war on Russia's own boarder. Against one of their own allies. Impressive.


This is why we have the Third Amendment here. If you can't board your troops, you can't start a war with them.

/might have stretched that a little bit
 
2014-08-28 03:37:57 AM  

Tabak: No one cares that the map is entirely inaccurate with a Russian Oblast missing? You know, that pesky Baltic one. Idiots.


Now that you've asked twice, I'll answer you.  No, no one cares.

OK?
 
2014-08-28 03:45:17 AM  
Funny twit. I bet all Ukrainians are feeling better after it. Really helped them. :)

No, it's really a funny map. But it just illustrates the lack of possible response from the world to the escalation of Russian direct involvement.
 
2014-08-28 05:52:28 AM  

Rixel: Might as well just go this route:

[media.theonion.com image 375x410]


I never thought it'd even be possible to see an even more screwed up middle-east. congrats.
 
2014-08-28 07:18:21 AM  
Unless the US is willing to shoot at the Russians, they effectively will conquor the entire world. Putin will just keep taking land, including US soil.
 
2014-08-28 08:11:57 AM  

Smoking GNU: Rixel: Might as well just go this route:

[media.theonion.com image 375x410]

I never thought it'd even be possible to see an even more screwed up middle-east. congrats.


http://www.theonion.com/articles/northern-irish-serbs-hutus-granted- ho meland-in-wes,305/
 
2014-08-28 09:17:57 AM  

Ooba Tooba: Don't piss off the Canadistans. They'll get snarky!


Just pray it stays at snarky and doesn't go any further.
 
2014-08-28 10:11:12 AM  

ciderczar: Ooba Tooba: Don't piss off the Canadistans. They'll get snarky!

Just pray it stays at snarky and doesn't go any further.


You will be made accountable in both official languages:

cdn5.movieclips.com
 
2014-08-28 10:54:23 AM  
Given that Canada has a largish Ukrainian population, and has had territorial disputes with Russia I wouldn't be all that surprised to see Canada get involved more directly and I would be shocked if they didn't try to get NATO involved.
 
2014-08-28 12:12:21 PM  
Lol @ the guy with geography OCD biatching about the lack of Kaliningrad on a half-assed joke map. The way the Russians are acting like petulant children, the Germans are going to get fed up and take Konigsberg back within a few years, anyway.
 
2014-08-28 12:25:15 PM  

bdub77: Well played, America's Hat.


Thank you, Canada's Depends.
 
2014-08-28 12:26:07 PM  

Tabak: No one cares that the map is entirely inaccurate with a Russian Oblast missing? You know, that pesky Baltic one. Idiots.


You sound Oblastic.
 
2014-08-28 05:48:28 PM  
Those Canadians think they know everything, don't they?  Do they know about the battalion of Canadian infantry that's wandering around the Pike Place Market right now, insisting they're in Vancouver and demanding poutine?  Huh?  Do they?
 
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