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(NFL)   The appeal results are in, and everyone in Fantasy Football who took a late round flier on Josh Gordon can start feeling smug. Just Kidding, he is done for the year   (nfl.com) divider line 32
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2014-08-27 04:02:37 PM  
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2014-08-27 04:42:19 PM  
And he didn't even hit the blunt; given the level measured in the test it had to have been second hand smoke.

The NFL seriously farked this up.

http://www.cleveland.com/livingston/index.ssf/2014/08/strictly_on_th e_ evidenc_josh_g.html
 
2014-08-27 05:14:11 PM  

Speaker2Animals: And he didn't even hit the blunt; given the level measured in the test it had to have been second hand smoke.

The NFL seriously farked this up.

http://www.cleveland.com/livingston/index.ssf/2014/08/strictly_on_th e_ evidenc_josh_g.html



From what I understand, he gave two samples, or one was divided in two (not a job I'd want). The first sample tested just above, and the second just below.
Meaning if the second sample had been the one tested first, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
 
2014-08-27 06:07:11 PM  
The Browns will be lucky if they get 4 wins this year.

/Live in NE Ohio
//Used to it
 
2014-08-27 06:09:04 PM  
And this is why you attack the procedure, not the test results. Sure, he would've never been tested if they switched the samples from B to A. In the world of "drug tests are infallible," no one cares about facts.

"If drug tests weren't perfect, why would we be using them in an incredibly important situation?"

It's kinda like

"Well if pot weren't bad, why would it be illegal?"
 
2014-08-27 06:15:55 PM  
"Just kidding" headlines are still a thing?
 
2014-08-27 06:17:01 PM  
I smell a lawsuit brewing...
 
2014-08-27 06:19:42 PM  

buckeyebrain: "Just kidding" headlines are still a thing?


I tried with the "8 Ray Rices" headline (and "quashing the Browns' hopes of being mediocre this year"), but I was denied.
 
2014-08-27 06:20:08 PM  
Seems harsh but necessary - lots of reports coming out that the kid has issues - the weed is just what got the issues noticed. fortunately he didn't ruin his life before he hit bottom.

There is enough attention on this that the league is going to be vested in his recovery even if the browns have to handle at arms length.

Most agree the drug penalties have to be fixed especially weed.

But it is sad Blackmon is kind of forgotten and doesn't get the same sympathy.
 
2014-08-27 06:20:56 PM  
I got Ray Rice off the waiver wire.

Suck it.
 
2014-08-27 06:27:25 PM  
Dammit. I really thought he'd complement my Sam Bradford selection nicely.
 
2014-08-27 06:35:20 PM  

DanZero: [pbs.twimg.com image 600x1004]


I wish I could say I was surprised this dumb comparison was going to be made. But I can't.

Just for clarification that will be ignored in everyone's self righteous outrage at the NFL, Gordon's suspension isn't because he got caught with some lolijuana once. He got suspended because he's a multiple offender. Throughout college. And now multiple times in the NFL. No one forced him to violate the rules multiple times.

If my kid misbehaves in school one day, he might slide with little or no punishment. If he misbehaves two days in a row? He's definitely getting punished. If he continues to misbehave after that punishment? Guess what, he gets punished worse because it's clear he isn't getting the message.

Deliberate disregard for rules and consequences is what got Gordon's ass on the bench for the year. Not the fact he inhaled "second hand" smoke. So biatch about tests, and Ray Rice, and Dr. Evil Gooddell all you want. There's only one person who is to blame for Gordon's suspension and it ain't any of those people.
 
2014-08-27 06:43:03 PM  

lordjupiter: I got Ray Rice off the waiver wire.

Suck it.


I drafted him in the first round last year.  Dude looked like the Michelan Man running for two yards a carry last year.  You can have him.
 
2014-08-27 07:23:07 PM  
"Late round"?  He went with the second pick of the eighth round in my draft last night.

/Hoping my Andrew Hawkins flier works out now.
 
2014-08-27 07:23:19 PM  

IlGreven: buckeyebrain: "Just kidding" headlines are still a thing?

I tried with the "8 Ray Rices" headline (and "quashing the Browns' hopes of being mediocre this year"), but I was denied.


Thank the new rules
 
2014-08-27 07:50:33 PM  
His statement about the suspension was a wonderful example of a guy who just doesn't get it and refuses to take responsibility for his actions.
 
2014-08-27 08:09:48 PM  

Jack Lambert's Missing Teeth: DanZero: [pbs.twimg.com image 600x1004]

I wish I could say I was surprised this dumb comparison was going to be made. But I can't.

Just for clarification that will be ignored in everyone's self righteous outrage at the NFL, Gordon's suspension isn't because he got caught with some lolijuana once. He got suspended because he's a multiple offender. Throughout college. And now multiple times in the NFL. No one forced him to violate the rules multiple times.

If my kid misbehaves in school one day, he might slide with little or no punishment. If he misbehaves two days in a row? He's definitely getting punished. If he continues to misbehave after that punishment? Guess what, he gets punished worse because it's clear he isn't getting the message.

Deliberate disregard for rules and consequences is what got Gordon's ass on the bench for the year. Not the fact he inhaled "second hand" smoke. So biatch about tests, and Ray Rice, and Dr. Evil Gooddell all you want. There's only one person who is to blame for Gordon's suspension and it ain't any of those people.


Yet it still seems too harsh. Couldn't they have just fined him instead? It's not like weed is a PED.
 
2014-08-27 08:13:38 PM  
For the last three years I've been saying that the Browns would surprise a couple of teams and every year something like this happens.
 
2014-08-27 08:13:58 PM  
I recognize that it's likely it really was secondhand, and that had they tested the B sample first he'd never have been caught. And I also realize the NFL has claimed that secondhand smoke isn't generally suspended.

But still. He knows he's been suspended once already, and he knows he isn't going to be given much leeway the second time. And he knows there's millions of dollars - potentially HIS dollars - riding on passing these tests. To that end, he really needs to just make sure he isn't in places where weed is being smoked. Those test levels aren't "I'm at a concert and some random person is smoking way far away." They are "I'm in a room with other people and everybody is smoking but me" levels. He needs to book it the hell out of there when that happens.
 
2014-08-27 08:14:17 PM  

Cymbal: Jack Lambert's Missing Teeth: DanZero: [pbs.twimg.com image 600x1004]

I wish I could say I was surprised this dumb comparison was going to be made. But I can't.

Just for clarification that will be ignored in everyone's self righteous outrage at the NFL, Gordon's suspension isn't because he got caught with some lolijuana once. He got suspended because he's a multiple offender. Throughout college. And now multiple times in the NFL. No one forced him to violate the rules multiple times.

If my kid misbehaves in school one day, he might slide with little or no punishment. If he misbehaves two days in a row? He's definitely getting punished. If he continues to misbehave after that punishment? Guess what, he gets punished worse because it's clear he isn't getting the message.

Deliberate disregard for rules and consequences is what got Gordon's ass on the bench for the year. Not the fact he inhaled "second hand" smoke. So biatch about tests, and Ray Rice, and Dr. Evil Gooddell all you want. There's only one person who is to blame for Gordon's suspension and it ain't any of those people.

Yet it still seems too harsh. Couldn't they have just fined him instead? It's not like weed is a PED.


No, they couldn't. Goodell's hands are tied by the CBA w.r.t. drug suspensions except in the face of significant mitigating factors. Gordon isn't providing any sort of mitigating circumstance, I don't think, so Goodell's only options were the year or nothing at all.
 
2014-08-27 08:14:25 PM  

RAWISRADFORD: Seems harsh but necessary - lots of reports coming out that the kid has issues - the weed is just what got the issues noticed. fortunately he didn't ruin his life before he hit bottom.

There is enough attention on this that the league is going to be vested in his recovery even if the browns have to handle at arms length.

Most agree the drug penalties have to be fixed especially weed.

But it is sad Blackmon is kind of forgotten and doesn't get the same sympathy.


What issues?  To me, the only issue he has is that he can't play ball because of dope smoking.... If he worked in a different profession, he'd have zero issues.
 
2014-08-27 08:37:33 PM  

T.rex: RAWISRADFORD: Seems harsh but necessary - lots of reports coming out that the kid has issues - the weed is just what got the issues noticed. fortunately he didn't ruin his life before he hit bottom.

There is enough attention on this that the league is going to be vested in his recovery even if the browns have to handle at arms length.

Most agree the drug penalties have to be fixed especially weed.

But it is sad Blackmon is kind of forgotten and doesn't get the same sympathy.

What issues?  To me, the only issue he has is that he can't play ball because of dope smoking.... If he worked in a different profession, he'd have zero issues.


You can use drugs and never get caught (insert pic of Manziel with rolled up bill)

It's tough to abuse drugs and avoid being caught.

Some people with mental issues chose to cope with drugs and then start abusing drugs.

Many of the folks close to flash say he has some mental issues - he has now hit bottom in regards to the nfl

Regardless of weed being legal or not this guy would have found a way to get busted (DUI) because he has bad judgement.

I am glad for him as a person - he can come out the other side and and deal with his real issues.

5 years from now weed might be completely decrimalized and approved by the nfl to prevent CTE - let's hope

But that doesn't change the fact that like alcohol - some people abuse substances to avoid dealing with "issues"
 
2014-08-27 09:10:14 PM  
Why even have a B test if the A test is the only one that seems to matter?
 
2014-08-27 09:32:39 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: Why even have a B test if the A test is the only one that seems to matter?


That way no one can claim cross contamination as a defense.

And because the NFLPA did such a terrible job negotiating the CBA and drug policy that Terry Bradshaw could have negotiated a better deal and he can hardly read a pamphlet without giving himself a headache.
 
2014-08-27 10:12:16 PM  
I picked him up with my last round pick and dropped him for a guy who I would have used that pick on anyway.

No loss and it did have a lot of potential gain.
 
2014-08-27 10:45:14 PM  

CipollinaFan: I picked him up with my last round pick and dropped him for a guy who I would have used that pick on anyway.

No loss and it did have a lot of potential gain.


I also picked him up in the last round of my last draft, and I'll be keeping him on the bench until they announce whether or not they'll be taking this case to court.
 
2014-08-27 10:45:56 PM  
I have a reminder set to pick him up in week 13 in my keeper league if I can spare the roster spot.
 
2014-08-28 07:07:07 AM  
Don't do the crime.... Seriously, I get that Rice's punishment was too lenient, but Gordons punishment was something the players agreed to in the CBA. Why didn't the players also ask to add something for domestic violence?
 
2014-08-28 11:20:21 AM  
Obvious tag would have also worked.

Seriously, no way he was getting out of this given his and Goodell's track records.

Someone in my draft took him in round 4 and was roundly congratulated on a good bold pick. I took Allen from SD. Pretty sure he'll play this season.
 
2014-08-28 11:47:58 AM  
The Steelers D/ST is a must start for week 1.

At home, and they killed the Browns last season. 18 points against, 6 turnovers and a TD in the 2 games.

Remove Gordon from that mix, and I can't imagine it's going to get much better in Cleveland.
 
2014-08-28 12:02:20 PM  

RAWISRADFORD: T.rex: RAWISRADFORD: Seems harsh but necessary - lots of reports coming out that the kid has issues - the weed is just what got the issues noticed. fortunately he didn't ruin his life before he hit bottom.

There is enough attention on this that the league is going to be vested in his recovery even if the browns have to handle at arms length.

Most agree the drug penalties have to be fixed especially weed.

But it is sad Blackmon is kind of forgotten and doesn't get the same sympathy.

What issues?  To me, the only issue he has is that he can't play ball because of dope smoking.... If he worked in a different profession, he'd have zero issues.

You can use drugs and never get caught (insert pic of Manziel with rolled up bill)

It's tough to abuse drugs and avoid being caught.

Some people with mental issues chose to cope with drugs and then start abusing drugs.

Many of the folks close to flash say he has some mental issues - he has now hit bottom in regards to the nfl

Regardless of weed being legal or not this guy would have found a way to get busted (DUI) because he has bad judgement.

I am glad for him as a person - he can come out the other side and and deal with his real issues.

5 years from now weed might be completely decrimalized and approved by the nfl to prevent CTE - let's hope

But that doesn't change the fact that like alcohol - some people abuse substances to avoid dealing with "issues"


clear, concise, informative....you do know that this  is fark, right?
 
2014-08-28 12:03:26 PM  
Wow. A whole year off. I wonder how he'll spend his time.
 
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