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2014-08-27 11:11:17 AM  
Morgan Freeman was farking hilarious in the Dark Knight.

Movies without jokes are garbage.
 
2014-08-27 11:11:23 AM  
McWeeny speculates if this mandate is true, then it's in response to Green Lantern being "jokey" and not performing as well as could be expected from a superhero movie.

Green Lantern didn't fail because it was "jokey", it failed because it was just an all-around terrible, horrible, no good, very bad movie.
 
2014-08-27 11:26:53 AM  
I find this rumor hard to believe.

scottydoesntknow: McWeeny speculates if this mandate is true, then it's in response to Green Lantern being "jokey" and not performing as well as could be expected from a superhero movie.

Green Lantern didn't fail because it was "jokey", it failed because it was just an all-around terrible, horrible, no good, very bad movie.


Also, this.
 
2014-08-27 11:33:38 AM  
I'm declaring a no jokes policy for this thread.  Serious replies only.
 
2014-08-27 11:37:39 AM  
I fully believe this:

My brother once applied for a job at Williams Street productions when he lived in Atlanta, and he asked
them why they stopped doing all those jokey CARTOON NETWORK promos featuring the Superfriends
(like Booty Shakin' Aquaman) and other classic characters.  He was told that Warner Corporate had come
down hard on anything that showed 'disrespect' for them.

That was more than 10 years ago, and I have no reason to believe that it has changed, especially based on
the Nolan movies.
 
2014-08-27 11:37:50 AM  
Goes well with their "No Box Office Receipts" policy
 
2014-08-27 11:39:41 AM  
Yet Marvel is pretty good poking fun at itself and is making metric truckloads of cash.

No surprise here.
 
2014-08-27 11:40:06 AM  

scottydoesntknow: McWeeny speculates if this mandate is true, then it's in response to Green Lantern being "jokey" and not performing as well as could be expected from a superhero movie.

Green Lantern didn't fail because it was "jokey", it failed because it was just an all-around terrible, horrible, no good, very bad movie.



Yes, but it's easier to prohibit jokes than horribleness.
 
2014-08-27 11:40:44 AM  

scottydoesntknow: McWeeny speculates if this mandate is true, then it's in response to Green Lantern being "jokey" and not performing as well as could be expected from a superhero movie.

Green Lantern didn't fail because it was "jokey", it failed because it was just an all-around terrible, horrible, no good, very bad movie.


This, and, I might add, another damning reason why WB/DC continues sailing the failboat.  For Want of a Nail and all that jazz.
 
2014-08-27 12:04:34 PM  
Now we know what happened to Heath. Blame Warner.
 
2014-08-27 12:07:47 PM  
I could actually believe this for one reason: Joel Schumacher.

His Batman movies were joke riddled. The problem: They just weren't funny. It's no surprise they went in a darker direction. Burn me once...

That being said, I can't really think of many DC heroes that have a great sense of humor. Sure, there are jokes here and there. But no one has the sense of humor of...oh, let's say Spiderman.

img.photobucket.com
 
2014-08-27 12:19:52 PM  
"Hey. You see how Marvel's getting gobs of money making a bunch of movies that all cross over? We need to do something like that. Only let's not waste any time building to it. We'll go right to the crossover by cramming as many characters into the Superman and Batman flick as possible. Oh. And you know how all Marvel's movies are 'fun' and the characters aren't afraid to toss off the occasional quip? Let's do the opposite of that. Everyone -  everyone - needs to be grim and gritty. That's right. Just a whole Justice League full of scowling faces. That'll bring the kids to the theaters. And let's spend like half a billion dollars marketing this thing. If it doesn't pan out well, we'll blame Snyder or Affleck. Certainly couldn't have anything to do with decisions we made in the boardroom, could it?"
 
2014-08-27 12:31:04 PM  

Mentat: I'm declaring a no jokes policy for this thread.  Serious replies only.



DC Comics movies:
*fingersnap flourish*
"The Aristocrats"
 
2014-08-27 12:52:23 PM  

elvisaintdead: Mentat: I'm declaring a no jokes policy for this thread.  Serious replies only.


DC Comics movies:
*fingersnap flourish*
"The Aristocrats"


REPORTED!
 
2014-08-27 01:17:38 PM  
But where would we be without the Joker's boners?
 
2014-08-27 01:29:24 PM  

scottydoesntknow: McWeeny speculates if this mandate is true, then it's in response to Green Lantern being "jokey" and not performing as well as could be expected from a superhero movie.

Green Lantern didn't fail because it was "jokey", it failed because it was just an all-around terrible, horrible, no good, very bad movie.


I heard it did good in Australia
 
2014-08-27 01:32:41 PM  
McWeeny.

*snicker*
 
2014-08-27 01:36:15 PM  

Rwa2play: Yet Marvel is pretty good poking fun at itself and is making metric truckloads of cash.

No surprise here.


It also helps that Marvel stuff is better, anyway.  Except for that Wolverine movie, but hey, you can't catch *all* the fish...
 
2014-08-27 01:47:22 PM  
I've always said since Johns and Didio took over, DC Entertainment has been a bad silver age rehash without the fun.

Shiat, come to find out, it's corporate policy.

/maybe after the DC movieverse fails, WB will wash their hands of the company completely and just sell it off to Marvel. Then we will finally get some good DC movies, and tolerable comics.
 
2014-08-27 02:10:26 PM  
Jokes are okay if they're, like, funny and not completely cringe-inducing. DC just hasn't figured out how to do that yet.
 
2014-08-27 02:38:11 PM  

xanadian: Rwa2play: Yet Marvel is pretty good poking fun at itself and is making metric truckloads of cash.

No surprise here.

It also helps that Marvel stuff is better, anyway.  Except for that Wolverine movie, but hey, you can't catch *all* the fish...


Fox owns the X-Men. I don't think Marvel has any creative control over the properties they've licensed, or the latest Spider-Man reboots wouldn't be so shiatty.
 
2014-08-27 02:41:05 PM  
I eagerly await the Lars von Trier reboot of the DC franchise.
 
2014-08-27 02:44:12 PM  
DC films don't do action very well nor humor very well.

/not surprised by this
 
2014-08-27 02:46:38 PM  
ecx.images-amazon.com
Yes, DC has a history of never being funny and always being serious all the time.
/I'd rather watch this movie than Batman V Superman: Dumb of Title.
 
2014-08-27 02:48:31 PM  

AnotherBluesStringer:
That being said, I can't really think of many DC heroes that have a great sense of humor. Sure, there are jokes here and there. But no one has the sense of humor of...oh, let's say Spiderman.

Spiderman (and Deadpool, which is also Marvel) have always been the leaders in the genuinely funny dept. In general, though, DC does have some extremely funny characters, depending on who is writing them. Off the top of my head:

Flash (Wally West version, mainly)
Joker (again, based on who is writing him)
Harley Quinn
Booster Gold
Plastic Man
Ambush Bug
Bat-Mite

Granted, DC will never be able to match the nuttiness that is Squirrel Girl or Howard the Duck, but still, chuckles to be had.


scottydoesntknow: McWeeny speculates if this mandate is true, then it's in response to Green Lantern being "jokey" and not performing as well as could be expected from a superhero movie.


A more appropriate name could not have been made up for this guy.
 
2014-08-27 02:49:35 PM  
I recently rewatched the first two Nolan Batmens and there are quite a few jokes. Not big ones, but they're there. Some work WAY better than others, but damn the movies would be flat and all angst without them.
 
2014-08-27 02:51:42 PM  
the DC movies are the joke.
 
2014-08-27 02:52:30 PM  

Trocadero: [ecx.images-amazon.com image 222x346]
Yes, DC has a history of never being funny and always being serious all the time.
/I'd rather watch this movie than Batman V Superman: Dumb of Title.


DCAU was anything but serious all the time. The movies could really take a few notes from the awesome things they accomplished on those series...

/I feel like a DC apologist at this point
 
2014-08-27 02:52:56 PM  
Shouldn't it be the complete opposite though?

DC's characters are all bigger than life, powerful gods and each one of them could crack the planet in half.  Shouldn't they be making fun, lighthearted movies to bring their characters some levity, humility and humanity?

I'm surprised and extremely happy that Marvel didn't go the 'grim and gritty' route.  Their characters are already fun and lighthearted and it translates well on screen.  I just watched Cap 2 again this weekend and, in between the spy thriller and kick ass action, Cap, Widow and Falcon all have really fun dialogue and goofy moments.  They don't detract from the film at all.  It makes them that much more likeable.  Loved how Widow was trying to find Cap a date the entire movie, even as she was kicking a guy off a building.
 
2014-08-27 02:55:42 PM  

KipKips: AnotherBluesStringer:
That being said, I can't really think of many DC heroes that have a great sense of humor. Sure, there are jokes here and there. But no one has the sense of humor of...oh, let's say Spiderman.

Spiderman (and Deadpool, which is also Marvel) have always been the leaders in the genuinely funny dept. In general, though, DC does have some extremely funny characters, depending on who is writing them. Off the top of my head:

Flash (Wally West version, mainly)
Joker (again, based on who is writing him)
Harley Quinn
Booster Gold
Plastic Man
Ambush Bug
Bat-Mite

Granted, DC will never be able to match the nuttiness that is Squirrel Girl or Howard the Duck, but still, chuckles to be had.


scottydoesntknow: McWeeny speculates if this mandate is true, then it's in response to Green Lantern being "jokey" and not performing as well as could be expected from a superhero movie.

A more appropriate name could not have been made up for this guy.


The animated stuff often was quite funny. even batman was funny in JL and JL:U
 
2014-08-27 03:00:40 PM  

tlchwi02: KipKips: AnotherBluesStringer:
That being said, I can't really think of many DC heroes that have a great sense of humor. Sure, there are jokes here and there. But no one has the sense of humor of...oh, let's say Spiderman.

Spiderman (and Deadpool, which is also Marvel) have always been the leaders in the genuinely funny dept. In general, though, DC does have some extremely funny characters, depending on who is writing them. Off the top of my head:

Flash (Wally West version, mainly)
Joker (again, based on who is writing him)
Harley Quinn
Booster Gold
Plastic Man
Ambush Bug
Bat-Mite

Granted, DC will never be able to match the nuttiness that is Squirrel Girl or Howard the Duck, but still, chuckles to be had.


scottydoesntknow: McWeeny speculates if this mandate is true, then it's in response to Green Lantern being "jokey" and not performing as well as could be expected from a superhero movie.

A more appropriate name could not have been made up for this guy.

The animated stuff often was quite funny. even batman was funny in JL and JL:U


I really liked Terry in Batman: Beyond. He was like Spider-Man with the sarcastic wit and had great back-and-forth with old Bruce Wayne.
 
2014-08-27 03:01:16 PM  

Rwa2play: For Want of a Nail


That was SUCH a good story.

That then got a sequel which was COMPLETELY unnecessary.
 
2014-08-27 03:01:54 PM  

Two Dogs Farking: xanadian: Rwa2play: Yet Marvel is pretty good poking fun at itself and is making metric truckloads of cash.

No surprise here.

It also helps that Marvel stuff is better, anyway.   Except for that Wolverine movie, but hey, you can't catch *all* the fish...

Fox owns the X-Men. I don't think Marvel has any creative control over the properties they've licensed, or the latest Spider-Man reboots wouldn't be so shiatty.


42 year old life long comic fan.  Marvel's universe was always my home, even when I ventured out to other pastures.  Spiderman has long been my favorite superhero.

The current Xmen films are good.  Maybe not GREAT but good, and they are trying hard to make good films.  The last Spiderman film (Amazing 2) is hands down the best Spiderman film made to-date.

You can hate on it, you can try to make it look bad, you can pretend it sucks, but it is THE BEST SPIDERMAN FILM MADE TO-DATE.

I'm telling you this right now - the hate on display for that film has dick-all to do with the film itself, and is based SOLELY on fanboys that wish Spidey could go home to the MCU.  Hell, so do I, I'd love to see Spidey in the Avengers.  But the truth is that Sony is actually TRYING to make good movies.  They are succeeding.


Now, you can say what you like about the original Tobey Spidey movies, and 1 and 2 are decent enough, and the scene with Spidey fighting Ock on the train is still pretty good, but they are what they are - superhero films made before the FX got good enough to look completely convincing.

DC has no farking clue what they are doing.  MOS was a farking steaming pile and SvB is looking more and more like a turd by committee.  It will make mountains of cash and still be a steaming pile.
 
2014-08-27 03:02:48 PM  
KipKips:

Spiderman (and Deadpool, which is also Marvel) have always been the leaders in the genuinely funny dept. In general, though, DC does have some extremely funny characters, depending on who is writing them. Off the top of my head:

Flash (Wally West version, mainly)
Joker (again, based on who is writing him)
Harley Quinn
Booster Gold
Plastic Man
Ambush Bug
Bat-Mite

Granted, DC will never be able to match the nuttiness that is Squirrel Girl or Howard the Duck, but still, chuckles to be had.


Consistency is the problem with these guys though.  Marvel has so many that are consistently funny and happy-go-lucky, it makes the difference between those guys and the DC guys pretty glaring. I've read comics from both sides of the aisle since I was a kid and that's stood out to me for a long time.

I want to like DC's stuff.  I really do.  I wanted Green Lantern to kick ass and it just didn't.  Superman has to have some humor to balance out the fact that he's basically an all powerful god that could kill the entire world population in a few seconds, but it sure as hell didn't show in Man of Steel.  Bats is supposed to be brooding and serious, that's his schtick.  The others need to take a chill pill.

That's why I'm honestly hoping for a fun Shazam movie and a goofy Aquaman outing.  Because, if they don't find the humor, then Marvel is going to keep eating their lunch in the live action department.
 
2014-08-27 03:08:54 PM  
scottydoesntknow:

I really liked Terry in Batman: Beyond. He was like Spider-Man with the sarcastic wit and had great back-and-forth with old Bruce Wayne.

Bruce was no slouch either - he wasn't "haha" funny, but Paul Dini and Kevin Conroy knew how to really play off his "stoic seriousness" for humor, much in the same way that the MCU uses Thor.

In all reality, DC has already adapted a vast majority of their properties in an amazingly good fashion with the DCAU, that it doesn't really hurt me any if the movies end up flopping. If I want to see all the characters done right, I just need to pop on one of those old cartoons. Marvel can't really say the same.

/IMO, outside of "Spectacular Spiderman" or, possibly, "Avengers:EMH," none of Marvel's cartoons have amazed and/or stand tall near DC's efforts
 
2014-08-27 03:08:58 PM  

ArkAngel: scottydoesntknow: McWeeny speculates if this mandate is true, then it's in response to Green Lantern being "jokey" and not performing as well as could be expected from a superhero movie.

Green Lantern didn't fail because it was "jokey", it failed because it was just an all-around terrible, horrible, no good, very bad movie.

I heard it did good in Australia


Shut up Australia!
 
2014-08-27 03:11:11 PM  
Dammit. There goes my hopes for a Heckler movie.

upload.wikimedia.org

/LOVE all six issues of this comic
//his superpower is obnoxiousness
 
2014-08-27 03:12:07 PM  

frepnog: I'm telling you this right now - the hate on display for that film has dick-all to do with the film itself, and is based SOLELY on fanboys that wish Spidey could go home to the MCU. Hell, so do I, I'd love to see Spidey in the Avengers. But the truth is that Sony is actually TRYING to make good movies. They are succeeding.


i don't give a rats wet fart about who owns what movie franchise. the new spiderman was a bad movie from a purely movie perspective. the plot made no sense, the pacing was terrible and the movie couldn't decide on what its tone was. the one saving grace was the chemistry between the 2 leads, and even that can only carry so far before the other poor elements bog it down.
 
2014-08-27 03:12:51 PM  

frepnog: but it is THE BEST SPIDERMAN FILM MADE TO-DATE.


Well, all caps, that settles it.
 
2014-08-27 03:13:39 PM  

frepnog: Two Dogs Farking: xanadian: Rwa2play: Yet Marvel is pretty good poking fun at itself and is making metric truckloads of cash.

No surprise here.

It also helps that Marvel stuff is better, anyway.   Except for that Wolverine movie, but hey, you can't catch *all* the fish...

Fox owns the X-Men. I don't think Marvel has any creative control over the properties they've licensed, or the latest Spider-Man reboots wouldn't be so shiatty.

42 year old life long comic fan.  Marvel's universe was always my home, even when I ventured out to other pastures.  Spiderman has long been my favorite superhero.

The current Xmen films are good.  Maybe not GREAT but good, and they are trying hard to make good films.  The last Spiderman film (Amazing 2) is hands down the best Spiderman film made to-date.

You can hate on it, you can try to make it look bad, you can pretend it sucks, but it is THE BEST SPIDERMAN FILM MADE TO-DATE.

I'm telling you this right now - the hate on display for that film has dick-all to do with the film itself, and is based SOLELY on fanboys that wish Spidey could go home to the MCU.  Hell, so do I, I'd love to see Spidey in the Avengers.  But the truth is that Sony is actually TRYING to make good movies.  They are succeeding.


Now, you can say what you like about the original Tobey Spidey movies, and 1 and 2 are decent enough, and the scene with Spidey fighting Ock on the train is still pretty good, but they are what they are - superhero films made before the FX got good enough to look completely convincing.

DC has no farking clue what they are doing.  MOS was a farking steaming pile and SvB is looking more and more like a turd by committee.  It will make mountains of cash and still be a steaming pile.


The first amazing spiderman movie was crap. I don't say that because I want Spidey in the current marvel stuff, I say that because it was crap. It was a crap story with crap characters. It was enough crap to dissuade me from wasting my money on amazing spiderman 2. I will watch it when I don't have to directly pay for it.

/crap
 
2014-08-27 03:14:07 PM  

Makh: But where would we be without the Joker's boners?


DC: NO CHORTLING!
 
2014-08-27 03:15:59 PM  

sniderman: Dammit. There goes my hopes for a Heckler movie.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 200x306]

/LOVE all six issues of this comic
//his superpower is obnoxiousness


Marvel did it better with Slapstick (came out that same year)

Slapstick is the only complete run I own (4 comics).
 
2014-08-27 03:17:51 PM  

tlchwi02: KipKips: AnotherBluesStringer:
That being said, I can't really think of many DC heroes that have a great sense of humor. Sure, there are jokes here and there. But no one has the sense of humor of...oh, let's say Spiderman.

Spiderman (and Deadpool, which is also Marvel) have always been the leaders in the genuinely funny dept. In general, though, DC does have some extremely funny characters, depending on who is writing them. Off the top of my head:

Flash (Wally West version, mainly)
Joker (again, based on who is writing him)
Harley Quinn
Booster Gold
Plastic Man
Ambush Bug
Bat-Mite

Granted, DC will never be able to match the nuttiness that is Squirrel Girl or Howard the Duck, but still, chuckles to be had.


scottydoesntknow: McWeeny speculates if this mandate is true, then it's in response to Green Lantern being "jokey" and not performing as well as could be expected from a superhero movie.

A more appropriate name could not have been made up for this guy.

The animated stuff often was quite funny. even batman was funny in JL and JL:U


Batman was freaking hilarious in the Justice League cartoons.  The DCAU is so good, I'm amazed at how inept they've been with the movies.

Here's my plan for how DC/Warner Brothers can fix the film franchise:

Step 1:  Bring in Bruce Timm and Paul Dini to run everything

That's it.
 
2014-08-27 03:19:32 PM  

whosits_112: Makh: But where would we be without the Joker's boners?

DC: NO CHORTLING!


www.comicbooktidbits.com

They also teach you how many 40 is.

29.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-08-27 03:21:34 PM  

Quasar: I find this rumor hard to believe.

scottydoesntknow: McWeeny speculates if this mandate is true, then it's in response to Green Lantern being "jokey" and not performing as well as could be expected from a superhero movie.

Green Lantern didn't fail because it was "jokey", it failed because it was just an all-around terrible, horrible, no good, very bad movie.

Also, this.


Let's not forget these are the llamas who unleashed "Batman and Robin" on us, killing the Bat-cinema franchise for about a decade. A little overcompensation is expected, and wouldn't you be alarmed if DC pulled its head out of its ass for any live action movie not devoted to Batman alone? (note: I don't get the hate for Man of Steel but don't care to have that convo yet again)
 
2014-08-27 03:22:05 PM  

scottydoesntknow: McWeeny speculates if this mandate is true, then it's in response to Green Lantern being "jokey" and not performing as well as could be expected from a superhero movie.

Green Lantern didn't fail because it was "jokey", it failed because it was just an all-around terrible, horrible, no good, very bad movie.


You need to think like a movie executive.
These are the people that think Ghosts of Mars flopped because it had "Mars" in the title.
 
2014-08-27 03:24:21 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: I fully believe this:

My brother once applied for a job at Williams Street productions when he lived in Atlanta, and he asked
them why they stopped doing all those jokey CARTOON NETWORK promos featuring the Superfriends
(like Booty Shakin' Aquaman) and other classic characters.  He was told that Warner Corporate had come
down hard on anything that showed 'disrespect' for them.

That was more than 10 years ago, and I have no reason to believe that it has changed, especially based on
the Nolan movies.


Interesting, as I don't think I'd be able to enjoy the new Teen Titans cartoon at all were it not skewering all of DC (but the Titans themselves most of all).
 
2014-08-27 03:24:42 PM  
Polish Hussar:

Here's my plan for how DC/Warner Brothers can fix the film franchise:

Step 1:  Bring in Bruce Timm and Paul Dini to run everything

That's it.


They do. It's the DCU Animated Movies. Which are also awesome (Under the Red Hood and the new Assault on Arkham are my favorites).

You could seriously adapt those animated movies to the big screen, change only what you have to for budgetary reasons, and it would be awesome.
 
2014-08-27 03:26:29 PM  

KipKips: Trocadero: [ecx.images-amazon.com image 222x346]
Yes, DC has a history of never being funny and always being serious all the time.
/I'd rather watch this movie than Batman V Superman: Dumb of Title.

DCAU was anything but serious all the time. The movies could really take a few notes from the awesome things they accomplished on those series...

/I feel like a DC apologist at this point


DCAU had tons of great jokes. Flash making reference to Batman smells song, "are you gonna wash your hands? NO, cuz I'm EVIL" basically all of Flash and Substance, "...and what's WRONG with the way I dress?", Mofir, there are a lot. I'm still hoping for a Captain Marvel. I like him. He's sunny.
 
2014-08-27 03:28:13 PM  

frepnog: I'm telling you this right now - the hate on display for that film has dick-all to do with the film itself, and is based SOLELY on fanboys that wish Spidey could go home to the MCU.


The MCU has sucked since Iron Man and this movie was lame too. Electro's character was crappy, killing Gwen Stacy was pointless and the whole thing was still pretty dumb. She's the only one who knows how to disable the reactor! Turns out it's this big red button that says "disable reactor" on it. Good thing you brought her.
 
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