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(Wired)   Movie viewers are having their retinas scanned to see where they look when watching a movie and it turns out that we tend to look at what looks real and ignore the rest. Predicted by "Looker" (1981)   (wired.com) divider line 33
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2014-08-27 08:26:56 AM  
Oh great, now I have the theme song in my head that I haven't even heard for 30 years.....

She's a looker
That's what they say
She's got it all, yeah
She's got it made
She's a looker
With a beautiful face
Always on display

http://youtu.be/JGWyVWPXYao
 
2014-08-27 09:00:42 AM  
I'm always looking for the real ones
 
2014-08-27 09:28:52 AM  
Now all I can think about is naked Susan Dey.
 
2014-08-27 09:56:46 AM  
But after it's out on DVD, stills get screen-capped, analyzed, and criticized on every detail.

So it doesn't mean they can do shoddy background work.
 
2014-08-27 10:33:04 AM  
I don't know about that, I look at a lot of boobs and many of them aren't real.
 
2014-08-27 11:32:23 AM  

Walker: Oh great, now I have the theme song in my head that I haven't even heard for 30 years.....

She's a looker
That's what they say
She's got it all, yeah
She's got it made
She's a looker
With a beautiful face
Always on display

http://youtu.be/JGWyVWPXYao


I like the pops on the LP.
 
2014-08-27 11:36:23 AM  

Sybarite: Now all I can think about is naked Susan Dey.


What happened to her after that film?
Seems her career nose-dived.
 
2014-08-27 11:36:48 AM  

Sybarite: Now all I can think about is naked Susan Dey.


So day ending in Y.   Was an awesome scifi movie for its time.
 
2014-08-27 11:45:32 AM  
That would explain why whenever I watch a Transformers movie I only see noise.
 
2014-08-27 11:54:28 AM  
To be fair, we're not necessarily looking at the real things because the eye is drawn to real things.  It's just that with this example, the faces and physics were what was being emphasized by Favreau.  I'm sure if you did this with a Transformers movie the eyes would be all over the place because Bay can't compose a coherent shot to save his life.  Still, if you find this kind of stuff interesting I'd suggest reading Incognito: The Secret Life of the Brain.
 
2014-08-27 12:14:04 PM  
Hi. I'm Cindy. I'm the perfect female type, age 18-22. I'm here to sell for you.
 
2014-08-27 12:18:18 PM  

AngryDragon: That would explain why whenever I watch a Transformers movie I only see noise.


At the time it was said the audiences reacted whenever LaBoof or other humans characters did something but sat stonefaced when only robots were onscreen.
 
2014-08-27 12:20:33 PM  

shut_it_down: To be fair, we're not necessarily looking at the real things because the eye is drawn to real things.  It's just that with this example, the faces and physics were what was being emphasized by Favreau.  I'm sure if you did this with a Transformers movie the eyes would be all over the place because Bay can't compose a coherent shot to save his life.  Still, if you find this kind of stuff interesting I'd suggest reading Incognito: The Secret Life of the Brain.


Why would I read the autobiography of a football meathead?
 
2014-08-27 12:21:37 PM  
like cats, we look at movement and for prey.

we are at the top of the Predator list.
 
2014-08-27 12:22:47 PM  

edmo: I'm always looking for the real ones



harder to find these days..............
 
2014-08-27 12:23:48 PM  

bdub77: I don't know about that, I look at a lot of boobs and many of them aren't real.



as long as your One Eyed Wonder Worm thinks they're real, it doesn't matter.  He's the one that counts.
 
2014-08-27 12:24:54 PM  

Uzzah: Hi. I'm Cindy. I'm the perfect female type, age 18-22. I'm here to sell for you.



and i would never lie to you or bullsh*t you for a check.  no way.

ain't Freedom great!
 
2014-08-27 12:25:27 PM  
Yes, but in Looker, it showed he only looked at the bewbies. Never the product.

/I never saw the product either.
 
2014-08-27 12:25:29 PM  

shut_it_down: To be fair, we're not necessarily looking at the real things because the eye is drawn to real things. It's just that with this example, the faces and physics were what was being emphasized by Favreau.


Exactly, it's the other way around. He used real things for the elements he expected the eye would be drawn to because he knew they would to be perfect.

The interesting thing is he intuitively made the right call on where to spend the expensive, time-consuming, hard-to-repeat practical effects and where he could get away with CGI, and that his intuition was confirmed by eye-tracking. It would be fascinating to see the same experiment where central elements were CGI, and whether or not viewers find such scenes less satisfying even if they can't explicitly articulate why.

/I still think Muppet Yoda was better than CGI Yoda.
 
2014-08-27 12:37:09 PM  
CGI has become a hollywood crutch now and it's terrible.
 
2014-08-27 12:41:19 PM  

shut_it_down: To be fair, we're not necessarily looking at the real things because the eye is drawn to real things.  It's just that with this example, the faces and physics were what was being emphasized by Favreau.  I'm sure if you did this with a Transformers movie the eyes would be all over the place because Bay can't compose a coherent shot to save his life.  Still, if you find this kind of stuff interesting I'd suggest reading Incognito: The Secret Life of the Brain.


Was it written by Pinky?
 
2014-08-27 02:08:26 PM  
it turns out that we tend to look at what looks real and ignore the rest.

Even in comics.  Fairchild's legs and bust are drown like this to make you pay more attention to her face.

33.media.tumblr.com


/don't know Fairchild from shinola.  Just went hunting for any of N examples on eschergirls.tumblr.com
 
2014-08-27 02:20:38 PM  
I'm getting the idea that this eye tracking isn't anything that much more than the 'evil eye' Huey Cobra Gunship aiming devices that were use in Vietnam.  Data gathered by pupil position in a camera frame.

Not like anyone is pointing a HiDef IR camera back at a movie's audience to determine who is staring at the boobies.

/pervs
 
2014-08-27 03:10:04 PM  

Walker: Oh great, now I have the theme song in my head that I haven't even heard for 30 years.....

She's a looker
That's what they say
She's got it all, yeah
She's got it made
She's a looker
With a beautiful face
Always on display

http://youtu.be/JGWyVWPXYao


Bah. . .post the link to the original (though why it was never used in the movie was never explained)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knh-sSh2P2c
 
2014-08-27 04:48:17 PM  

czetie: shut_it_down: To be fair, we're not necessarily looking at the real things because the eye is drawn to real things. It's just that with this example, the faces and physics were what was being emphasized by Favreau.

Exactly, it's the other way around. He used real things for the elements he expected the eye would be drawn to because he knew they would to be perfect.

The interesting thing is he intuitively made the right call on where to spend the expensive, time-consuming, hard-to-repeat practical effects and where he could get away with CGI, and that his intuition was confirmed by eye-tracking. It would be fascinating to see the same experiment where central elements were CGI, and whether or not viewers find such scenes less satisfying even if they can't explicitly articulate why.

/I still think Muppet Yoda was better than CGI Yoda.


This. And of course Muppet Yoda was better.
 
2014-08-27 05:04:51 PM  

ChubbyTiger: czetie: shut_it_down: To be fair, we're not necessarily looking at the real things because the eye is drawn to real things. It's just that with this example, the faces and physics were what was being emphasized by Favreau.

Exactly, it's the other way around. He used real things for the elements he expected the eye would be drawn to because he knew they would to be perfect.

The interesting thing is he intuitively made the right call on where to spend the expensive, time-consuming, hard-to-repeat practical effects and where he could get away with CGI, and that his intuition was confirmed by eye-tracking. It would be fascinating to see the same experiment where central elements were CGI, and whether or not viewers find such scenes less satisfying even if they can't explicitly articulate why.

/I still think Muppet Yoda was better than CGI Yoda.

This. And of course Muppet Yoda was better.


Probably would have been hard to shoot the Yoda vs Dooku scene.  I don't think Frank Oz is that spry, even if he was wearing a greenscreen leotard
 
2014-08-27 05:06:29 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: Probably would have been hard to shoot the Yoda vs Dooku scene. I don't think Frank Oz is that spry, even if he was wearing a greenscreen leotard


And that would have been a bad thing... why?
 
2014-08-27 05:38:06 PM  
I've watched a few of those videos. There's always at least that one dude where you're like "wtf are you looking at?" I've been told those tend to be ADD/ADHD folks or people who have video editing experience (and yes, I'm sure that'd be a pretty close venn diagram).

For me I tend to look at whatever is moving. That introvert cartoon about looking at people's eyes and not their mouths is so me. Or if there are two people talking I'll look at the space between them (looking back and forth makes me motion sick).

/I'm not disrespecting you. I'm actually trying harder to focus on what you are saying.
 
2014-08-27 08:32:09 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: I'm getting the idea that this eye tracking isn't anything that much more than the 'evil eye' Huey Cobra Gunship aiming devices that were use in Vietnam.  Data gathered by pupil position in a camera frame.

Not like anyone is pointing a HiDef IR camera back at a movie's audience to determine who is staring at the boobies.

/pervs


What's your point? What if they are using HiDef IR cameras? Why does it matter?
 
2014-08-27 08:49:46 PM  
I can guarantee I know where almost everyone was looking during The Avengers at about 15 minutes in...
 
2014-08-27 09:56:57 PM  

Free Radical: Sybarite: Now all I can think about is naked Susan Dey.

What happened to her after that film?
Seems her career nose-dived.


She played the title role of Assistant District Attorney La Law on La Law.
 
2014-08-28 12:27:27 AM  

Tobin_Lam: Vlad_the_Inaner: I'm getting the idea that this eye tracking isn't anything that much more than the 'evil eye' Huey Cobra Gunship aiming devices that were use in Vietnam.  Data gathered by pupil position in a camera frame.

Not like anyone is pointing a HiDef IR camera back at a movie's audience to determine who is staring at the boobies.

/pervs

What's your point? What if they are using HiDef IR cameras? Why does it matter?


It matters because it's be a neat trick and an advance in technology scanning en-masse, and fit subby's headline 'retna scanning' better than an old hat head mounted pupil watcher technology.  It'd be SF like Looker, not 'done that' for decades.

But maybe you don't care about stuff like that.
 
2014-08-28 08:58:34 AM  
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Now with a helpful example of the results of eyeball tracking...
 
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