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2014-08-27 08:35:50 AM  
Dude...you don't fark with Abby.

/nice abby-less and hippo-less picture to accompany tfa
 
2014-08-27 10:13:14 AM  
The Avengers Blu-Ray set with all the leadup movies got delayed for a similar reason -- they bought the Tesseract case from some foofy luggage company, then tried to package the movie set in a replica of it, and got sued to high heaven.

You'd think this has happened enough times to enough people that production companies would be more careful about using existing products in their shows and then selling them. My guess is they all think they're too big and the people with the rights won't bother going after them, but it should be obvious by now that isn't the case.
 
2014-08-27 10:15:45 AM  
LL Cool J came over to Folkmanis Inc. one day.  He heard about the farting hippo puppet.  He said "hey, that sounds good".
 
2014-08-27 10:21:01 AM  
I love Bart! Abbey is the coolest.
 
2014-08-27 10:21:39 AM  
I'd ridden in the elevator with him more than once, at my old job. He's a good-looking man and looks great in a suit. And he seems nice, but his office was on the 2nd floor. Not much time for chatting. Just smiling. No camera phones.
 
2014-08-27 10:22:57 AM  
LL isn't even on that show, he's on the worse one, which appears to be less worse than the new Scott Bakula one.
 
2014-08-27 10:25:15 AM  

RainbeauxSue: You'd think this has happened enough times to enough people that production companies would be more careful about using existing products in their shows and then selling them


You'd think they'd have enough high priced entertainment lawyers on retainer that one of them would point it out.

/Abbey rules
//sort of tired of the show
///didn't know a sailor or marine gets murdered in some bazaar fashion every week
 
2014-08-27 10:28:15 AM  

CruJones: LL isn't even on that show, he's on the worse one, which appears to be less worse than the new Scott Bakula one.


Yeah, LA doesn't have any likable characters. I'll be interested in seeing the Sam Beckett one to see how they try to make Vancouver look like NOLA.
 
2014-08-27 10:28:32 AM  
If CBS made the puppet, couldn't they not only claim prior art, but then sue Folkmanis?
 
2014-08-27 10:29:28 AM  

Mugato: didn't know a sailor or marine gets murdered in some bazaar fashion every week


What a bazaar murder might look like:
starsmedia.ign.com

// bizarre
// bizarro I love you
 
2014-08-27 10:29:34 AM  

RainbeauxSue: The Avengers Blu-Ray set with all the leadup movies got delayed for a similar reason -- they bought the Tesseract case from some foofy luggage company, then tried to package the movie set in a replica of it, and got sued to high heaven.

You'd think this has happened enough times to enough people that production companies would be more careful about using existing products in their shows and then selling them. My guess is they all think they're too big and the people with the rights won't bother going after them, but it should be obvious by now that isn't the case.


The China Beach DVD set feels your pain.  The joke there was supposed to be that it still doesn't exist because they screwed up the music rights but it turns out they finally managed to release a set with the original music.  Last year.
 
2014-08-27 10:30:34 AM  

Mugato: ///didn't know a sailor or marine gets murdered in some bazaar fashion every week


I've made a similar remark to my wife before. Like, based on what we see on the show, if I were to somehow wind up in the Navy, I'd be begging to get deployed, because it seems like everyone on good ol' American terra firma is being murdered pretty much constantly.
 
2014-08-27 10:30:37 AM  

fruitloop: LL Cool J came over to Folkmanis Inc. one day.  He heard about the farting hippo puppet.  He said "hey, that sounds good".


That's a lie.
 
2014-08-27 10:31:29 AM  

CruJones: LL isn't even on that show, he's on the worse one, which appears to be less worse than the new Scott Bakula one.


You can go suck a fat one. While the original NCIS is the best, the LA spinoff is still entertaining and awesome. I reserve judgment for the NOLA spinoff until I see it, but the backdoor pilot seemed to do a decent job of getting the lagniappe right.
 
2014-08-27 10:32:36 AM  
Delivery Agent ad on CBS.com:
ads-i.deliveryagent.com

The item in question on the CBS store:

Sorry. The page or product you were looking for is currently unavailable.
To continue shopping, return to the CBS Store homepage.


The Hippo Folkmanis currently sells:
www.folkmanis.com

An ebay search, in which you can find the original 'Hippo 1' and 'Bert The Farting Hippo' as sold on CBS.com coontil recently):

thumbs3.ebaystatic.com thumbs4.ebaystatic.com

It looks closest to the (discontinued) Hippo 1, but even then it's not an exact match.
 
2014-08-27 10:32:48 AM  

the cake is a pie: Mugato: ///didn't know a sailor or marine gets murdered in some bazaar fashion every week

I've made a similar remark to my wife before. Like, based on what we see on the show, if I were to somehow wind up in the Navy, I'd be begging to get deployed, because it seems like everyone on good ol' American terra firma is being murdered pretty much constantly.


It's like Murder She Wrote. For the purposes of the show, someone would have to get murdered wherever Jessica Fletcher goes but in reality she'd be public enemy #1. The guys from Supernatural would have killed her, assuming sh was some sort of demon.
 
2014-08-27 10:36:31 AM  
Mr. Concon makes props and things for TV and movies. Rule no. A is to make sure it's either grown from scratch or B. so so so modified you can't recognize it as what it used to be from.

This is why he ends up handcrafting a shiatton of snowglobes for things. Kinda hard to modify an existing one so it's unrecognizable.
 
2014-08-27 10:37:04 AM  

Mugato: CruJones: LL isn't even on that show, he's on the worse one, which appears to be less worse than the new Scott Bakula one.

Yeah, LA doesn't have any likable characters. I'll be interested in seeing the Sam Beckett one to see how they try to make Vancouver look like NOLA.


I wasn't huge on LA's characters in the beginning (except for Callen), but with Hetty, Kensi, and Sam...and Nell, sexy sexy Nell...I can forgive the show for Deeks.

As for making Vancouver look like NOLA, the original series managed to make LA look like DC. Although the backdoor pilot actually did extensive shooting in New Orleans--and had I known about it, I'd have been there to volunteer as an extra.

/I'm pretty much McGee
//And I like that
 
2014-08-27 10:37:57 AM  
I double dog dare you to pull a hippo's toe.
 
2014-08-27 10:39:33 AM  
The best part about cutting cable was when the wife got the chance to watch shows like that again her conclusion was that they were just terrible and she had no idea how they piqued her interest to begin with.
 
2014-08-27 10:40:52 AM  

maram500: As for making Vancouver look like NOLA, the original series managed to make LA look like DC. Although the backdoor pilot actually did extensive shooting in New Orleans--and had I known about it, I'd have been there to volunteer as an extra.


I dunno, they shoot a lot of things out there nowadays. Maybe they actually do shoot in NOLA. That would seem like it'd be a nightmare logistically.

Hetty's cool. She looks a lot younger than when she was in Poltergeist, amazing.
 
2014-08-27 10:41:08 AM  
In February, Disney was taken to court over an evil stuffed bear in Toy Story 3. In July, Seth MacFarlane's production house was sued for allegedly stealing the talking teddy bear that made Ted such a monster hit.

Nope, totally not trying to make a quick buck or anything.
 
2014-08-27 10:44:01 AM  

RainbeauxSue: The Avengers Blu-Ray set with all the leadup movies got delayed for a similar reason -- they bought the Tesseract case from some foofy luggage company, then tried to package the movie set in a replica of it, and got sued to high heaven.

You'd think this has happened enough times to enough people that production companies would be more careful about using existing products in their shows and then selling them. My guess is they all think they're too big and the people with the rights won't bother going after them, but it should be obvious by now that isn't the case.


I remember that! I had heard that the set was going to be reasonably (for blu-ray anyway) priced so I put in a pre-order. About 6 months later, amazon sent an email saying that the set and case was delayed, but in the meantime, here have the Avengers blu-ray for free.

I wound up cancelling the pre-order a month or so later, having lost interest, and with a free movie to boot.

/CSB
 
2014-08-27 10:48:12 AM  

maram500: Mugato: CruJones: LL isn't even on that show, he's on the worse one, which appears to be less worse than the new Scott Bakula one.

Yeah, LA doesn't have any likable characters. I'll be interested in seeing the Sam Beckett one to see how they try to make Vancouver look like NOLA.

I wasn't huge on LA's characters in the beginning (except for Callen), but with Hetty, Kensi, and Sam...and Nell, sexy sexy Nell...I can forgive the show for Deeks.

As for making Vancouver look like NOLA, the original series managed to make LA look like DC. Although the backdoor pilot actually did extensive shooting in New Orleans--and had I known about it, I'd have been there to volunteer as an extra.

/I'm pretty much McGee
//And I like that


And another NCIS watching person here.  The show has enough little jokes to go with the drama that it keeps me entertained.
 
2014-08-27 10:48:34 AM  

Grumpy Cat: I'd ridden in the elevator with him more than once, at my old job. He's a good-looking man and looks great in a suit. And he seems nice, but his office was on the 2nd floor. Not much time for chatting. Just smiling. No camera phones.


Bert the Farting Hippo takes the elevator?
 
2014-08-27 10:50:02 AM  

Publikwerks: If CBS made the puppet, couldn't they not only claim prior art, but then sue Folkmanis?


Especially if they hastily embroidered some copyright information on the back of it.
 
2014-08-27 10:52:29 AM  

lousyskater: In February, Disney was taken to court over an evil stuffed bear in Toy Story 3. In July, Seth MacFarlane's production house was sued for allegedly stealing the talking teddy bear that made Ted such a monster hit.

Nope, totally not trying to make a quick buck or anything.


Except in this situation, the puppet used in the show was an already existing product which the shows producers used as a prop.

CBS then, through their agent who runs the CBS online store (DA), contacted the manufacturer to have a special NCIS version made for them, to sell in their online store, with a spiked collar and a sound box with a fart noise.

CBS then allegedly decided to get the puppets made in China by another company, cutting the original manufacturer out of the loop and reproducing their copyrighted product.  As the NCIS hippo was based directly off of the design of the original hiopp with minor additions (collar and noise box) then I would suspect its considered as a deriviative work.
 
2014-08-27 10:54:50 AM  

RainbeauxSue: The Avengers Blu-Ray set with all the leadup movies got delayed for a similar reason -- they bought the Tesseract case from some foofy luggage company, then tried to package the movie set in a replica of it, and got sued to high heaven.

You'd think this has happened enough times to enough people that production companies would be more careful about using existing products in their shows and then selling them. My guess is they all think they're too big and the people with the rights won't bother going after them, but it should be obvious by now that isn't the case.


I've been in several movies and TV shows that were shot in New Orleans.  The producers are pretty nit-picky about any labels on clothes or other "showing" of brand names.  Any brand names.

They sometimes will leave a Coke can in the shot, f'rinstance, and later try to sell the product placement to Coke.  If Coke doesn't buy it, the scene is altered or tossed.

Probably the most interesting thing I learned while making movies.  That's some dull shiat, right there.
 
2014-08-27 10:55:24 AM  
Given that there is nothing original on tv, this must indeed be stolen IP.

As a media company, CBS is immune from any copyright claims.
 
2014-08-27 11:00:41 AM  
That's a terribly written article.
 
2014-08-27 11:04:49 AM  
I love Folkmanis Puppets. This one is my favorite.

http://www.folkmanis.com/Prod-67-1-32-1/penguin-baby-emperor.htm
 
2014-08-27 11:05:18 AM  

jtown: RainbeauxSue: The Avengers Blu-Ray set with all the leadup movies got delayed for a similar reason -- they bought the Tesseract case from some foofy luggage company, then tried to package the movie set in a replica of it, and got sued to high heaven.

You'd think this has happened enough times to enough people that production companies would be more careful about using existing products in their shows and then selling them. My guess is they all think they're too big and the people with the rights won't bother going after them, but it should be obvious by now that isn't the case.

The China Beach DVD set feels your pain.  The joke there was supposed to be that it still doesn't exist because they screwed up the music rights but it turns out they finally managed to release a set with the original music.  Last year.


They didn't screw up music rights to China Beach as much as not pay to use the music in perpetuity across all formats.

So, new deals had to be cut for DVD, and song rights holders generally believe they deserve ALL TEH MONIES, so it took a long time to get enough music cleared to make releasing the set worthwhile.
 
2014-08-27 11:11:11 AM  

jtown: The China Beach DVD set feels your pain.


As does WKRP.
 
2014-08-27 11:12:44 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: jtown: RainbeauxSue: The Avengers Blu-Ray set with all the leadup movies got delayed for a similar reason -- they bought the Tesseract case from some foofy luggage company, then tried to package the movie set in a replica of it, and got sued to high heaven.

You'd think this has happened enough times to enough people that production companies would be more careful about using existing products in their shows and then selling them. My guess is they all think they're too big and the people with the rights won't bother going after them, but it should be obvious by now that isn't the case.

The China Beach DVD set feels your pain.  The joke there was supposed to be that it still doesn't exist because they screwed up the music rights but it turns out they finally managed to release a set with the original music.  Last year.

They didn't screw up music rights to China Beach as much as not pay to use the music in perpetuity across all formats.

So, new deals had to be cut for DVD, and song rights holders generally believe they deserve ALL TEH MONIES, so it took a long time to get enough music cleared to make releasing the set worthwhile.


That's pretty much my definition of screwing up.  :)
 
2014-08-27 11:13:26 AM  
Copyright fights. Why they'll never be a DVD/Blu-Ray release of this:

www.retroland.com
 
2014-08-27 11:15:53 AM  
If that doesn't get a Strange tag, I don't know what does.
 
2014-08-27 11:22:01 AM  

jtown: FirstNationalBastard: jtown: RainbeauxSue: The Avengers Blu-Ray set with all the leadup movies got delayed for a similar reason -- they bought the Tesseract case from some foofy luggage company, then tried to package the movie set in a replica of it, and got sued to high heaven.

You'd think this has happened enough times to enough people that production companies would be more careful about using existing products in their shows and then selling them. My guess is they all think they're too big and the people with the rights won't bother going after them, but it should be obvious by now that isn't the case.

The China Beach DVD set feels your pain.  The joke there was supposed to be that it still doesn't exist because they screwed up the music rights but it turns out they finally managed to release a set with the original music.  Last year.

They didn't screw up music rights to China Beach as much as not pay to use the music in perpetuity across all formats.

So, new deals had to be cut for DVD, and song rights holders generally believe they deserve ALL TEH MONIES, so it took a long time to get enough music cleared to make releasing the set worthwhile.

That's pretty much my definition of screwing up.  :)


It was 1988.

I can give a pass to shows from the 70s, 80s, and even 90s that failed to secure music rights for home video, because TV on home video wasn't a thing yet.

But if a show from the 2000s or later didn't do it... They farked up.

/as for NCIS... It's a Don Bellisario show, as was Quantum Leap. Sam Beckett better return home at the end if this series.
 
2014-08-27 11:24:24 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: It was 1988.

I can give a pass to shows from the 70s, 80s, and even 90s that failed to secure music rights for home video, because TV on home video wasn't a thing yet.

But if a show from the 2000s or later didn't do it... They farked up.

/as for NCIS... It's a Don Bellisario show, as was Quantum Leap. Sam Beckett better return home at the end if this series


Not until he finishes founding the federation first...
 
2014-08-27 11:25:12 AM  

Mugato: maram500: As for making Vancouver look like NOLA, the original series managed to make LA look like DC. Although the backdoor pilot actually did extensive shooting in New Orleans--and had I known about it, I'd have been there to volunteer as an extra.

I dunno, they shoot a lot of things out there nowadays. Maybe they actually do shoot in NOLA. That would seem like it'd be a nightmare logistically.


IIRC, more than a few shows have been shot in NOLA (wasn't True Blood shot there?), and because of tax breaks and whatnot, it was worth it for the production companies. I don't know if NCIS:NO will shoot everything in the Big Easy, but that would be nice. More local flavor that way. (And hopefully Scott Bakula will tone down the fake accent...)

Hetty's cool. She looks a lot younger than when she was in Poltergeist, amazing.

I re-watched Dune a few weeks ago, and holy crap she looks younger now than she did in 1984. And so does Patrick Stewart.
 
2014-08-27 11:27:26 AM  
Can Fark sue over the terrible ending of that article?
 
2014-08-27 11:29:52 AM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: FirstNationalBastard: It was 1988.

I can give a pass to shows from the 70s, 80s, and even 90s that failed to secure music rights for home video, because TV on home video wasn't a thing yet.

But if a show from the 2000s or later didn't do it... They farked up.

/as for NCIS... It's a Don Bellisario show, as was Quantum Leap. Sam Beckett better return home at the end if this series

Not until he finishes founding the federation first...


That will only happen after he finishes drinking coffee with Ray and Detective Pembleton.
 
2014-08-27 11:37:49 AM  
What's truly confusing is that episodes of House M.D. on Netflix aren't consistent. Most episodes have a new intro song to replace the original one... But some don't. It's like they were supposed to change it, but just missed a few episodes here and there.
 
2014-08-27 11:39:50 AM  

WilderKWight: What's truly confusing is that episodes of House M.D. on Netflix aren't consistent. Most episodes have a new intro song to replace the original one... But some don't. It's like they were supposed to change it, but just missed a few episodes here and there.


I don't know why it would have been changed... House's producers paid for DVD rights.
 
2014-08-27 11:42:02 AM  

WilderKWight: What's truly confusing is that episodes of House M.D. on Netflix aren't consistent. Most episodes have a new intro song to replace the original one... But some don't. It's like they were supposed to change it, but just missed a few episodes here and there.


You mentioned consistency, and I leaped to the conclusion that somehow, someone had changed plot elements within the show. But apparently the only change has been to the intro?

Seriously?

Some episodes use a deliberately short intro (there were a couple that just had the logo and one piano chord, with credits appearing during the first act), and IIRC, the international version uses a different theme for the opening credits.

But would you mind explaining how this has anything to do with Bert the Farting Hippo?
 
2014-08-27 11:47:25 AM  

CruJones: LL isn't even on that show, he's on the worse one, which appears to be less worse than the new Scott Bakula one.


I like NCIS:LA.  Pretty refreshing show.  I find it better than the original NCIS.

Haven't found NCIS:NO yet, but I will.  Zoe McLellan  has always been hot.  (when she showed up as Petty Officer Coates on  JAG,  I was hooked.
 
2014-08-27 11:50:00 AM  

maram500: CruJones: LL isn't even on that show, he's on the worse one, which appears to be less worse than the new Scott Bakula one.

You can go suck a fat one. While the original NCIS is the best, the LA spinoff is still entertaining and awesome. I reserve judgment for the NOLA spinoff until I see it, but the backdoor pilot seemed to do a decent job of getting the lagniappe right.


I'll never be able to get past the fact that they put a West Coast NCIS show in LA instead of San Diego. You know, where there's actually Navy and Marine Corps bases, and lots of them.
 
2014-08-27 11:51:48 AM  
CBS is taking NCIS - LA and putting it up against Monday Night Football, just to piss me off.
 
2014-08-27 11:53:42 AM  

LectertheChef: maram500: CruJones: LL isn't even on that show, he's on the worse one, which appears to be less worse than the new Scott Bakula one.

You can go suck a fat one. While the original NCIS is the best, the LA spinoff is still entertaining and awesome. I reserve judgment for the NOLA spinoff until I see it, but the backdoor pilot seemed to do a decent job of getting the lagniappe right.

I'll never be able to get past the fact that they put a West Coast NCIS show in LA instead of San Diego. You know, where there's actually Navy and Marine Corps bases, and lots of them.


The LA show deals more with undercover operations, so it makes more sense to base them in the larger city. And I recall more than a few episodes where the team did take on investigations in San Diego. Plus, Pendleton--arguably the largest Marine base in that area--is halfway between LA and SD.
 
2014-08-27 11:56:40 AM  

uncleacid: CBS is taking NCIS - LA and putting it up against Monday Night Football, just to piss me off.


It will also be up against the last twenty minutes of Top Gear...whenever BBC America starts airing the next series. But at least it's something else to keep my attention on Monday nights.
 
2014-08-27 12:00:12 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: Copyright fights. Why they'll never be a DVD/Blu-Ray release of this:

[www.retroland.com image 650x300]



Why??? I've remember seeing VHS of them a long time ago?
 
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