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2014-08-26 01:55:42 PM  
NERDS,jpg.
 
2014-08-26 02:52:22 PM  
As I put the final touches on my packing for DragonCon this weekend, this is relevant to my interests. I've been attending cons since 1986 (the Atlanta WorldCon was my first, in fact), and in that time have been to well over 200 of them. What they are describing is the main reason why I stopped attending WorldCon - the "old-timers" who believe that if it isn't a book, it's not "real" science fiction.

Screw that. I came of age with Star Wars in the theater, Buck Rogers on TV, and watched as we went from BBS's to the modern Internet, and from Pong to "OMG this game is awesome!". Science fiction has nothing to do with a specific media; science fiction is a philosophy, a way of asking "what if?" and a way to hold up a mirror to modern society. It can be books (which I still love and read plenty of them), movies, television, video games, online communities, etc etc and so forth.

The dinosaurs need to stop living in the past and embrace the modern world, where science fiction is often indistinguishable from science fact. Science fiction has always been about the future. Too bad too many of the people who profess to love it are still living in the past.
 
2014-08-26 03:05:25 PM  

Winterlight: As I put the final touches on my packing for DragonCon this weekend, this is relevant to my interests. I've been attending cons since 1986 (the Atlanta WorldCon was my first, in fact), and in that time have been to well over 200 of them. What they are describing is the main reason why I stopped attending WorldCon - the "old-timers" who believe that if it isn't a book, it's not "real" science fiction.

Screw that. I came of age with Star Wars in the theater, Buck Rogers on TV, and watched as we went from BBS's to the modern Internet, and from Pong to "OMG this game is awesome!". Science fiction has nothing to do with a specific media; science fiction is a philosophy, a way of asking "what if?" and a way to hold up a mirror to modern society. It can be books (which I still love and read plenty of them), movies, television, video games, online communities, etc etc and so forth.

The dinosaurs need to stop living in the past and embrace the modern world, where science fiction is often indistinguishable from science fact. Science fiction has always been about the future. Too bad too many of the people who profess to love it are still living in the past.


I once was in a con panel where some neckbeard started talking smack about STAR WARS, and yet was
trying to defend the LENSMAN series in the same breath.  His lack of critical thinking was laughable.

SF fandom has always been about outsiders banding together to support each other, and the fiction they
tell themselves is that they are somehow better than 'mundanes' (and, indeed, there are many fans of a
certain age that use 'mundane' as ethnic slur).  But, when you look at the history of various conventions
and fannish organizations, they are riven with continual splits and schisms driven by the most petty
and irrational personal animosities, in many ways worse than anything any 'mundane' organization has
ever done.

Mind you:  I've seen the same sorts of things in more recent/modern fandoms, but not to the extent that
I've seen in traditional literary SF fandom.  Probably because the more recent generations have a higher
level of socialization than the greybeards did thanks precisely to the fact that the newer fans grew up
exposed to mass media in ways that their elders never did.  They're still outsiders, but at least at some
level society doesn't ostracize them as much

Of course, having the general attitude go from outright hostility, through patronizing yet gentle ribbing, to
crass commercial exploitation isn't necessarily progress, but hey.
 
2014-08-26 03:47:04 PM  
what does San Francisco ave to do with lightsabers?
unless it's a gay euphemism...fabulous
 
2014-08-26 03:49:25 PM  
I'd like to stay and comment but I've got this overpowering desire to get to the ocean ASAP. [COUGH]
 
2014-08-26 03:50:27 PM  

Winterlight: As I put the final touches on my packing for DragonCon this weekend, this is relevant to my interests. I've been attending cons since 1986 (the Atlanta WorldCon was my first, in fact), and in that time have been to well over 200 of them. What they are describing is the main reason why I stopped attending WorldCon - the "old-timers" who believe that if it isn't a book, it's not "real" science fiction.

Screw that. I came of age with Star Wars in the theater, Buck Rogers on TV, and watched as we went from BBS's to the modern Internet, and from Pong to "OMG this game is awesome!". Science fiction has nothing to do with a specific media; science fiction is a philosophy, a way of asking "what if?" and a way to hold up a mirror to modern society. It can be books (which I still love and read plenty of them), movies, television, video games, online communities, etc etc and so forth.

The dinosaurs need to stop living in the past and embrace the modern world, where science fiction is often indistinguishable from science fact. Science fiction has always been about the future. Too bad too many of the people who profess to love it are still living in the past.


My husband came up in these ranks, too.  He'd been attending cons since the early 80s, writing for fanzines & Amateur Press Associations.  Then he got into comics and a few of his stories were published.   USA Network wanted to buy the rights to one of his characters.  He then got invited to all these multi-media cons and instantly noticed the difference.

I never went to the WorldCon-type cons, so I don't know that world.  When I read a novel based in that type of con,  Zombies of the Gene Pool,I couldn't relate to it at all.  I think I'd like to stick my head into a WorldCon one day, just to see what it was like, but give me the DragonCon's & NYCC's any day.

/BTW, a prequel to  Zombies of the Gene Pool, called Bimbos of the Death Sun, is based in a multimedia type con and is absolutely hysterical.
 
2014-08-26 04:07:52 PM  
The DC/Baltimore 'dinosaurs of fandom' prefer (or preferred) to refer to their events as more literary than the multimedia events when I paid attention to them in the 90s.   That's fine, and there is a place for that.  It's a shrinking place.

I've had fun at both types of events.
 
2014-08-26 04:15:20 PM  
 
2014-08-26 04:17:59 PM  
Been to a couple of Worldcons since the 70's, most recently, the last Chicon. I've always found the atmosphere cozy and welcoming and tolerant, if a little laid-back in the past decade.   Worldcons are a little different, in part, because  they tend to require a deeper financial commitment, with extra travel, expenses, etc. and this will tend to favor older, well-off fans with the means and time to afford the experience.  Smaller cons tend to draw from nearer distances, and can be more affordable.


As to Worldcon people being more sexually repressed, or politically incorrect/behind the times, personally, I haven't seen that. Particularly in the 70's, there was sex and drugs aplenty and a libertine vibe... behind closed doors, for those that sought that kind of thing out.

I will stipulate to Worldcon people being book fanatics first and foremost. But not as exclusionary as this article makes them seem.
 
2014-08-26 04:38:34 PM  
I attended the "World Con" in San Antonio in 97... and it was easily the worst run, most pointless and boring convention I've ever attended.
 
2014-08-26 04:42:06 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-08-26 04:42:14 PM  
I stopped reading before he got to the story about taking the ferry to Shelbyville

/was at the very first DragonCon
//with about a dozen other nerds
///we actually played games *gasp*
 
2014-08-26 05:13:29 PM  
God farking help us all if WorldCon ever gets Bieber-ized and turns into a sell-out like Comic Con San Diego.
 
2014-08-26 05:19:55 PM  
These Worldcon old timers remind me of indie game devs.
 
2014-08-26 05:22:51 PM  
Well, SciFi started in the late 1800s, and the 1930s to 1950s was when its target demographic / reader base became 'literally everyone, everywhere'.

So... a cross-section of SciFi fans from the 1940s/50s is... well, a cross-section of  everyone from the '40s/'50s.  Adjust your cultural expectations, I guess.  If you don't want to deal with it, it's a  party, not a serious event.  Being unable to stomach people being relaxed about their dumb hobbies and attitudes seems like a bad stance to take as a social beat fluff reporter, attending social events for trivial bullshiat you may not care about is pretty much the entire job.

Going to a fan convention and complaining that people are wearing their dumb, overly obsessive opinions and attitudes on their sleeves (like it's some sort of environment where they're supposed to be able to be comfortable with the fact that they're nerds, who knew) is like going to an orgy and complaining that the costumes aren't refined and tasteful.
 
2014-08-26 05:24:14 PM  
The future ain't what it used to be.
 
2014-08-26 05:26:35 PM  
"And then, of course, there were the age-old rivalries. Fandom has always loved its gossip and feuds, but some of the dividing lines at Worldcon seemed more suited to a convention in the 1970s. "

WorldCon has always been divided since the very beginning, and if the author wasn't lazy and did some research he (or she, who knows WTF gender "Gavia" is for!) would know that.

Back in 1939 there was a fanzine/pamphlet called "A Warning!" that caused a huge schizm.

I M P O R T A N T !
Read This Immediately!

A WARNING!
July 2, 1939

B E W A R E OF THE DICTATORSHIP

You, who are reading this pamphlet, have come to attend
the World's Science Fiction Convention. You are to be
praised for your attendance and complimented on the
type of fiction in which you are interested. But, TODAY
BE AWARE OF ANY MOVEMENT TO COERCE OR
BULLY YOU INTO SUBMISSION! Remember, this is
YOUR convention, for YOU! Be on the alert, lest certain
well-organized minorities use you to ratify their carefully
conceived plans.

Why This Warning?

This warning is being given to you by a group of sincere
science fiction fans. The reasons for this warning are
numerous; THEY ARE BASED UPON EVENTS OF THE
PAST -- particularly events which took place at the Newark
Convention of 1937. At that time the gathering of fans and
interested readers was pounded into obedience by the
controlling clique. The Newark Convention set up dictatorially,
the machinery for the convention which you are now attending.
THE NEWARK CONVENTION MUST NOT BE PERMITTED
TO REPEAT ITSELF! It remains in your power to see that this
convention today will be an example of perfect democracy.

Startling Facts

The Queens Science Fiction League was formed by the
Newark Clique, after that convention, in order to make the
necessary local organization upon which the dictatorial
Convention Committee could base itself. The editors
demanded such an organization. The self-appointed
chairman of the Newark Convention accordingly arranged
to form it so as to get a New York City organization for
the similarly formed New Fandom. A constitution was
written for it which is kept secret for the most part, but is
arranged so as not to allow the possibility of any opponent
joining the organization by the mechanics of allowing only
one blackball, instead of the traditional two.

ALSO, The Queens Science Fiction League is run arbitrarily
by its three leaders and discussion from the floor and dissention
in any form is rigidly controlled or suppressed. The editors
and those dependent on them for a living, the authors, have
made it a duty to attend Queens S.F.L. meetings regularly
in order to keep it going and to keep the 1939 Convention
in hand. At the elections held last meeting, held openly so
as to detect any possible opposition, the three dictators were
re-elected unanimously in perfect un-democratic harmony.

The Newark Revolution

Led by a few indignant science fiction fans, the Convention
of Newark in 1937 passed, OVER THE REFUSAL OF THE
CHAIRMAN TO RECOGNIZE THE MOTION, by A MAJORITY
OF MEMBERS, a resolution officially censuring the Chairman
for his "undemocratic, dictatorial acts" which was place in the
minutes of the convention. Afterwards, a petition was SIGNED
BY A MAJORITY further censuring him, together with his cohorts.

High Handed Tactics

At the same time that the Queens S.F.L. was established, a large
number of New York City fans formed the Futurian Society of
New York. Contrary to much propaganda, the Futurian Society
is not confined to communists, michelists, or other radical elements;
it is a democratic club, run in a democratic way, and reflecting
sincere science fiction fan activity. At a meeting about three
months ago, the Futurians, in the interest of peace and united
friendly action in New York for the Convention, voted an offer
of a united meeting with the Queens S.F.L. to work out such
co-operation. THIS OFFER HAS NEVER BEEN PLACED
TO THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE OTHER ORGANIZATION,
BEING SIDE-TRACKED BY THE DICTATORS OF THE
CLUB.

A Loaded Weapon

The World's Science Fiction Convention of 1939 in the
hands of such heretofore ruthless scoundrels is a loaded
weapon in the hands of such men. This weapon can be
aimed at their critics or can be used to blast all fandom.
But YOU, the reader of this short article, are the ammunition.
It is for YOU to decide whether you shall bow before the
unfair tactics and endorse the carefully arranged plans of
the Convention Committee. Beware of any crafty speeches
or sly appeals. BE ON YOUR GUARD!
History In The Making
What is done at this convention will make science fiction
history. YOU are making it. MAKE THIS A DEMOCRATIC
CONVENTION!

Warnings

BE CAREFUL, when the chairman asks you to vote for
something without discussion. DEMAND DISCUSSION!
Be careful; when the chairman suggests that a person be
UNANIMOUSLY elected to an office; that is DICTATORSHIP!
Be careful; if the chairman says his critics are deliberately
destructive; HEAR THE OTHER SIDE! Be careful, if the
chairman says there will be no time to vote; TIME MUST
BE MADE! Be careful; if the chairman refuses to recognize
a speaker from the floor; FREE SPEECH IS ESSENTIAL!
Be careful; in every way not to place unlimited power into the
hands of the Convention Committee. THERE MUST BE
REPRESENTATION, REPRESENTATION OF YOU! And
above all, INSIST UPON DEMOCRATIC CONDUCT OF
THE CONVENTION. DO NOT BE ROUGHLY
SUPPRESSED!

In Conclusion

It must be said that this pamphlet has been written not
because it is KNOWN that something dictatorial will happen.
This pamphlet was written only because of past actions of
the present Convention Committee. We sincerely hope we
are mistaken in our suspicions. But we have learned too
much from the past, not to be warned of the future.

The Publishers

Who are we that have published this? We are science
fiction fans, young men who believe that science fiction
is a new type of literature which must not have its future
destroyed by any selfish interests. We believe that free
speech, co-operation, and democratic acts and thoughts
must be granted to science fiction fandom. This pamphlet
was NOT published by the Queens Science Fiction League.
Likewise, it was NOT published by the Futurian Society of
New York. Nor by "communists." Nor by "Fascists." Nor
by any other clique or organization. This is published by a
group of science fiction fans for no other purpose than to
assure the person who attends the Convention a voice in the
Convention, and to set them on their guard against any
un-American dictatorial, or subversive management of the
Convention. DESPITE ANYONE, OR ANYTHING, THE
1939 WORLD'S SCIENCE FICTION CONVENTION IS
BOUND TO BE A SUCCESS! And if the Convention
Committee should decide that democratic methods are best
we will be the first to admit that they deserve full credit and
praise for this gathering for the three days of July first, second
and third.

MAY SCIENCE FICTION PROSPER!

THE ASSOCIATION FOR DEMOCRACY
IN SCIENCE FICTION FANDOM
 
2014-08-26 05:31:42 PM  
www.joblo.comfortresstakes.files.wordpress.comscifanatic.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com
 
2014-08-26 05:32:17 PM  
TV's Vinne:

tl;fiacasmbhwatr

/too long; fell into a coma and suffered massive brain hemorrhage while attempting to read
 
2014-08-26 05:46:39 PM  
I wonder which other WorldCons the author attended... since the "science fiction is only in the printed word" philosophy has been dead at WorldCons for a good thirty or forty years.
 
2014-08-26 05:50:49 PM  

cirby: I wonder which other WorldCons the author attended... since the "science fiction is only in the printed word" philosophy has been dead at WorldCons for a good thirty or forty years.


look, they didn't provide a series of color coded tags to instantly explain your full sexual history and mood ring determined interaction scale and they didn't want to talk about the 'obvious' racist subtext of every book they enjoyed so they are exclusionary fuddy duddies who must all die. its really very simple.
 
2014-08-26 06:04:05 PM  

TV's Vinnie: God farking help us all if WorldCon ever gets Bieber-ized and turns into a sell-out like Comic Con San Diego.


I actually want my cons to have a bit of everything.  Arisia in Boston actually seems to have found a good balance of
old-time 'literary SF' and more modern media.  Balticon still skews very much toward the literary, but they have
embraced new media (podcasting, especially) in the last 10 years or so.
 
2014-08-26 06:13:04 PM  
tlchwi02:
look, they didn't provide a series of color coded tags to instantly explain your full sexual history and mood ring determined interaction scale and they didn't want to talk about the 'obvious' racist subtext of every book they enjoyed so they are exclusionary fuddy duddies who must all die. its really very simple.

Yeah, I did get that vibe from the article, too. "While the panels themselves were full of fresh and progressive fandom voices" is one of those sentences that needs to be taken out back and shot.
 
2014-08-26 06:31:24 PM  

docmattic: TV's Vinne:

tl;fiacasmbhwatr

/too long; fell into a coma and suffered massive brain hemorrhage while attempting to read


Wurds bee too hard fo yoo to reed. Soun biet must be doo!
 
2014-08-26 06:51:02 PM  
Lost me at "badge with your preferred gender pronouns".

/color coded markers for your sociability levels is pretty darling sad too. But I can kinda see it.
 
2014-08-26 06:52:58 PM  
Huh. Spellcheck changes farking to darling.
/darl it.
 
2014-08-26 06:55:34 PM  

TurnerBrown: Lost me at "badge with your preferred gender pronouns".

/color coded markers for your sociability levels is pretty darling sad too. But I can kinda see it.


Geez, missed that part. That's a damn shame.
 
2014-08-26 07:02:35 PM  
TurnerBrown:
color coded markers for your sociability levels is pretty darling sad too. But I can kinda see it.

The red code is for "don't talk to me?"

They travel a long way to go to a large meeting with a few hundred to a few thousand people... to NOT talk to anyone?

Um. Yeah. Right.
 
2014-08-26 07:03:02 PM  
"A red clip meant "leave me alone." A green clip, and you'd soon be making friends. "

A light blue hanky in the left pocket wasn't clear enough?
 
2014-08-26 07:18:12 PM  
This joke is that the fans that are really into Star Wars and Star Trek are actually the "old" fans, right?
 
2014-08-26 07:22:04 PM  
What color clip stands for bronies???
 
2014-08-26 07:24:32 PM  
racist subtext in a genre favorite like Firefly

Wat? Is it because they had a black space bounty hunter?
 
2014-08-26 07:44:27 PM  

Winterlight: As I put the final touches on my packing


Out of rank curiosity... how did you get to Mod/Admin in one year?
 
2014-08-26 08:57:59 PM  

fusillade762: racist subtext in a genre favorite like Firefly

Wat? Is it because they had a black space bounty hunter?


For a Chinese/Western blended universe, there was a big deficit in the Asians department.
 
2014-08-26 09:01:49 PM  

cirby: I wonder which other WorldCons the author attended... since the "science fiction is only in the printed word" philosophy has been dead at WorldCons for a good thirty or forty years.


I was at the Brighton worldcon in...87? Saw saome early prototype CGI demo in a hotel room.

So, ayup.
 
2014-08-26 09:13:00 PM  
X minus One (linky  https://archive.org/details/OTRR_Certified_X_Minus_One )
Dimension X
Some episodes of Escape!

OTR (Old Time Radio), those were awesome episodes.

/A Logic Named Joe for the win
//I also like Johnny Dollar, the man with the action packed expense account.
 
2014-08-26 10:24:05 PM  
Thanks, tdyak!
 
2014-08-26 10:38:27 PM  

Winterlight: As I put the final touches on my packing for DragonCon this weekend, this is relevant to my interests. I've been attending cons since 1986 (the Atlanta WorldCon was my first, in fact), and in that time have been to well over 200 of them. What they are describing is the main reason why I stopped attending WorldCon - the "old-timers" who believe that if it isn't a book, it's not "real" science fiction.

Screw that. I came of age with Star Wars in the theater, Buck Rogers on TV, and watched as we went from BBS's to the modern Internet, and from Pong to "OMG this game is awesome!". Science fiction has nothing to do with a specific media; science fiction is a philosophy, a way of asking "what if?" and a way to hold up a mirror to modern society. It can be books (which I still love and read plenty of them), movies, television, video games, online communities, etc etc and so forth.

The dinosaurs need to stop living in the past and embrace the modern world, where science fiction is often indistinguishable from science fact. Science fiction has always been about the future. Too bad too many of the people who profess to love it are still living in the past.


Hear Hear!
 
2014-08-26 10:43:38 PM  
Jerry Rice didn't need no stinking light saber or pointy ears to rack up all those yards and touchdowns. He had talent, Joe Montana and God... But I repeat myself.
 
2014-08-27 02:48:41 AM  

Any Pie Left: As to Worldcon people being more sexually repressed, or politically incorrect/behind the times, personally, I haven't seen that. Particularly in the 70's, there was sex and drugs aplenty and a libertine vibe... behind closed doors, for those that sought that kind of thing out.


Some of this.  I've got to go with the old duffers on this.  A con is about the relevant material, not sexual liberation in a sci-fi variation of furries or other role play fantasies and geeking out over costumes and merchandise so much.  We have rules here on fark too, no threadjacking, no trolling, etc.

Sure, other cons have become that over the years.  Guess what, you can go to those.  Let these guys have their thing, and you go do yours.  Let them talk about the old sci-fi novels, and you can take your neck-beard and Steam-punk My Little Pony costume and go frolic with people more into what you're into.

And people wonder why they don't garner much respect.
 
2014-08-27 06:12:27 AM  

cirby: TurnerBrown:
color coded markers for your sociability levels is pretty darling sad too. But I can kinda see it.

The red code is for "don't talk to me?"

They travel a long way to go to a large meeting with a few hundred to a few thousand people... to NOT talk to anyone?

Um. Yeah. Right.


There are a lot of attendees at cons who are on the Autism spectrum.  The subject of SF has always appealed to
people with those sorts of mind wiring, from the very beginning (a lot of the 'First Fans' I knew in my early days of
con going undoubtedly had some sort of issues in that vein, I'm sure).

Though I can see the possibilities for abuse such a labeling system would introduce, overall I think that if its handled
correctly it could be a very good thing for those who are highly affected to get through a con without being hassled
too badly, and might even be a first step to ease them into wider socialization.

/I did laugh at the sexual preference indicator jokes in the thread, too.
 
2014-08-27 08:56:32 AM  

Winterlight: As I put the final touches on my packing for DragonCon this weekend, this is relevant to my interests. I've been attending cons since 1986 (the Atlanta WorldCon was my first, in fact), and in that time have been to well over 200 of them. What they are describing is the main reason why I stopped attending WorldCon - the "old-timers" who believe that if it isn't a book, it's not "real" science fiction.

Screw that. I came of age with Star Wars in the theater, Buck Rogers on TV, and watched as we went from BBS's to the modern Internet, and from Pong to "OMG this game is awesome!". Science fiction has nothing to do with a specific media; science fiction is a philosophy, a way of asking "what if?" and a way to hold up a mirror to modern society. It can be books (which I still love and read plenty of them), movies, television, video games, online communities, etc etc and so forth.

The dinosaurs need to stop living in the past and embrace the modern world, where science fiction is often indistinguishable from science fact. Science fiction has always been about the future. Too bad too many of the people who profess to love it are still living in the past.


*uses time machine, brings a group of raptors from the past to this time, sets them loose on your ass*

I AM Old Guard, pleeb
 
2014-08-27 09:23:28 AM  
I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that.

+1 cause this thread had 42 comments in it

/dang, now it's 43
//what's a nubian?
 
2014-08-27 09:24:16 AM  
I would like to see a video of this reoccurring 'old men on the panel shouting down female fans' problem. Based on the tone of her article this sounds like a lot of hyperbole.

Based on my own experience at cons, if I disagree with your point, I am not shouting you down, not insulting your race, sex, age, or gender - I just don't agree with you. But where's the drama in that?
 
2014-08-27 10:02:49 AM  
When I first got into fandom in the early 70s, I felt that I finally had a place where I was accepted unconditionally. Now I'm a "neckbeard" and a "dinosaur." I have to admit, I miss those days of inclusion. Sure, there are some grumpy old men in fandom; always will be. But in the end, we're all fans of the fantastic, although what that means will always be in flux. I embrace the old as well as the new, and find name-calling not only distasteful but disheartening.
 
2014-08-27 10:09:10 AM  

RickN99: Based on my own experience at cons, if I disagree with your point, I am not shouting you down, not insulting your race, sex, age, or gender - I just don't agree with you. But where's the drama in that?


Sometimes people disagree because they're asshats. "I don't agree that women should keep the right to vote." See? A disagreement. For a horrible reason that says more about the dissenter than anything else.
 
2014-08-27 10:12:42 AM  

TV's Vinnie: "And then, of course, there were the age-old rivalries. Fandom has always loved its gossip and feuds, but some of the dividing lines at Worldcon seemed more suited to a convention in the 1970s. "

WorldCon has always been divided since the very beginning, and if the author wasn't lazy and did some research he (or she, who knows WTF gender "Gavia" is for!) would know that.

Back in 1939 there was a fanzine/pamphlet called "A Warning!" that caused a huge schizm.

I M P O R T A N T !
Read This Immediately!

A WARNING!
July 2, 1939

B E W A R E OF THE DICTATORSHIP

You, who are reading this pamphlet, have come to attend
the World's Science Fiction Convention. You are to be
praised for your attendance and complimented on the
type of fiction in which you are interested. But, TODAY
BE AWARE OF ANY MOVEMENT TO COERCE OR
BULLY YOU INTO SUBMISSION! Remember, this is
YOUR convention, for YOU! Be on the alert, lest certain
well-organized minorities use you to ratify their carefully
conceived plans.

Why This Warning?

This warning is being given to you by a group of sincere
science fiction fans. The reasons for this warning are
numerous; THEY ARE BASED UPON EVENTS OF THE
PAST -- particularly events which took place at the Newark
Convention of 1937. At that time the gathering of fans and
interested readers was pounded into obedience by the
controlling clique. The Newark Convention set up dictatorially,
the machinery for the convention which you are now attending.
THE NEWARK CONVENTION MUST NOT BE PERMITTED
TO REPEAT ITSELF! It remains in your power to see that this
convention today will be an example of perfect democracy.

Startling Facts

The Queens Science Fiction League was formed by the
Newark Clique, after that convention, in order to make the
necessary local organization upon which the dictatorial
Convention Committee could base itself. The editors
demanded such an organization. The self-appointed
chairman of the Newark Convention accordingly arranged
to form it so as to g ...


Wow, stuff like that makes me want to give up on scifi altogether and just veg out to a safe, predictable sitcom with a laugh track. And a blonde with a nice (albeit fake) rack.
 
2014-08-27 10:26:55 AM  
Sounds like they should call nine worlds posercon instead.
 
2014-08-27 10:42:32 AM  
As posted to Facebook yesterday --

I think there's a core issue here that's unaddressed: People see science fiction cons on television. Specifically, they see SDCC -- A venue that is a receptacle for millions of marketing dollars from gigantic international film and television concerns. This is therefore what a sci-fi con is all about, so people hear about a local convention and think that they would like to attend it -- SDCC coverage obviously makes it look like a blast. They get there and find three people in a small hotel conference room debating the merits and drawbacks of O'Neill cylinders vs. Dyson spheres vs. the Ringworld. Which are three things with which they're incredibly unfamiliar. Of course the panelists are going to talk over these incredibly rude teenagers. Are they wrong to do so? Yes. Are those teenagers at the wrong con? Yes.
 
2014-08-27 10:59:06 AM  
At one point, I heard multiple Hugo and Nebula award-winning author Robert Silverberg jokingly refer to new media and comic cons as "those other moron conventions."

Fun Fact: Silverberg was a prolific author of cheap softcore pornography back in the day.  Older Farkers will  probably remember seeing those bus-station pulp book racks featuring such titles as "Naked, She Died" or "The Love Addict," by Don Elliott, Silverberg's nom-de-porn.
 
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