Winterlight: As I put the final touches on my packing for DragonCon this weekend, this is relevant to my interests. I've been attending cons since 1986 (the Atlanta WorldCon was my first, in fact), and in that time have been to well over 200 of them. What they are describing is the main reason why I stopped attending WorldCon - the "old-timers" who believe that if it isn't a book, it's not "real" science fiction.Screw that. I came of age with Star Wars in the theater, Buck Rogers on TV, and watched as we went from BBS's to the modern Internet, and from Pong to "OMG this game is awesome!". Science fiction has nothing to do with a specific media; science fiction is a philosophy, a way of asking "what if?" and a way to hold up a mirror to modern society. It can be books (which I still love and read plenty of them), movies, television, video games, online communities, etc etc and so forth.The dinosaurs need to stop living in the past and embrace the modern world, where science fiction is often indistinguishable from science fact. Science fiction has always been about the future. Too bad too many of the people who profess to love it are still living in the past.
cirby: I wonder which other WorldCons the author attended... since the "science fiction is only in the printed word" philosophy has been dead at WorldCons for a good thirty or forty years.
TV's Vinnie: God farking help us all if WorldCon ever gets Bieber-ized and turns into a sell-out like Comic Con San Diego.
docmattic: TV's Vinne:tl;fiacasmbhwatr/too long; fell into a coma and suffered massive brain hemorrhage while attempting to read
TurnerBrown: Lost me at "badge with your preferred gender pronouns"./color coded markers for your sociability levels is pretty darling sad too. But I can kinda see it.
Winterlight: As I put the final touches on my packing
fusillade762: racist subtext in a genre favorite like FireflyWat? Is it because they had a black space bounty hunter?
Any Pie Left: As to Worldcon people being more sexually repressed, or politically incorrect/behind the times, personally, I haven't seen that. Particularly in the 70's, there was sex and drugs aplenty and a libertine vibe... behind closed doors, for those that sought that kind of thing out.
cirby: TurnerBrown:color coded markers for your sociability levels is pretty darling sad too. But I can kinda see it.The red code is for "don't talk to me?"They travel a long way to go to a large meeting with a few hundred to a few thousand people... to NOT talk to anyone?Um. Yeah. Right.
RickN99: Based on my own experience at cons, if I disagree with your point, I am not shouting you down, not insulting your race, sex, age, or gender - I just don't agree with you. But where's the drama in that?
TV's Vinnie: "And then, of course, there were the age-old rivalries. Fandom has always loved its gossip and feuds, but some of the dividing lines at Worldcon seemed more suited to a convention in the 1970s. "WorldCon has always been divided since the very beginning, and if the author wasn't lazy and did some research he (or she, who knows WTF gender "Gavia" is for!) would know that.Back in 1939 there was a fanzine/pamphlet called "A Warning!" that caused a huge schizm.I M P O R T A N T !Read This Immediately!A WARNING!July 2, 1939B E W A R E OF THE DICTATORSHIPYou, who are reading this pamphlet, have come to attendthe World's Science Fiction Convention. You are to bepraised for your attendance and complimented on thetype of fiction in which you are interested. But, TODAYBE AWARE OF ANY MOVEMENT TO COERCE ORBULLY YOU INTO SUBMISSION! Remember, this isYOUR convention, for YOU! Be on the alert, lest certainwell-organized minorities use you to ratify their carefullyconceived plans.Why This Warning?This warning is being given to you by a group of sincerescience fiction fans. The reasons for this warning arenumerous; THEY ARE BASED UPON EVENTS OF THEPAST -- particularly events which took place at the NewarkConvention of 1937. At that time the gathering of fans andinterested readers was pounded into obedience by thecontrolling clique. The Newark Convention set up dictatorially,the machinery for the convention which you are now attending.THE NEWARK CONVENTION MUST NOT BE PERMITTEDTO REPEAT ITSELF! It remains in your power to see that thisconvention today will be an example of perfect democracy.Startling FactsThe Queens Science Fiction League was formed by theNewark Clique, after that convention, in order to make thenecessary local organization upon which the dictatorialConvention Committee could base itself. The editorsdemanded such an organization. The self-appointedchairman of the Newark Convention accordingly arrangedto form it so as to g ...
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