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(National Journal)   Get out your checkbooks. We're paying John Boehner's lawyer $350,000 to fake-sue President Obama   ( nationaljournal.com) divider line
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2014-08-26 01:51:54 PM  
We just know we can get him to perjure himself so we can get to impeach him.
 
2014-08-26 02:27:19 PM  
"OK gentlemen, we can bill you for up to 350,000, so at $500/hr we've entered you into our contracts system"

img.fark.net
 
2014-08-26 02:50:33 PM  
The agreement caps payments at $350,000 through January 2015, and specifies an hourly rate of $500 for the legal work, according to the contract, signed by Rivkin, Miller, and House General Counsel Kerry Kircher.


Ah yes, Fiscal Conservatism at its best.


$500/hr for what will be a partisan dog and pony show? "Good stuff. go get 'em GOP!"

$10.10 minimum wage? "You farking Communists think we're made of money!?!"
 
2014-08-26 02:50:39 PM  
Sounds to me like the republicans created a job.  Now the democrat house of cards will crumble like a cookie as humpty dumpty has a great fall.  Checkmate libulardos.

/feels dirty just typing that
 
2014-08-26 02:53:11 PM  
Laser like focus on jobsTM
 
2014-08-26 02:53:36 PM  
Just remember this every single time the GOP complains about the President or the liberals in Congress wasting your taxpayer dollars.
 
2014-08-26 02:54:47 PM  
I wonder how much of the lawsuit is out of concern for the integrity of the constitutional process and how much is out of wanting to funnel more of our tax dollars to special interests?

If we are looking from a pure fiscal side of it, this is new money being spent. Any money spent in President Obama's executive actions has already been appropriated or President Obama couldn't authorize it.
 
2014-08-26 02:55:15 PM  
I honestly thought it would be more. Probably will be before too long.
 
2014-08-26 02:55:56 PM  
John can at least point to one job he's created at least.
 
2014-08-26 02:56:18 PM  

heavymetal: I wonder how much of the lawsuit is out of concern for the integrity of the constitutional process



Zero - because the "overreach" they're complaining about in this lawsuit is Obama's order delaying the employer mandate that the GOP was so opposed to.  A completely manufactured controversy.
 
2014-08-26 02:57:55 PM  
Whatever happened to sovereign immunity?
 
2014-08-26 02:58:01 PM  

Trivia Jockey: Zero - because the "overreach" they're complaining about in this lawsuit is Obama's order delaying the employer mandate that the GOP was so opposed to.  A completely manufactured controversy.


But he did it so lawlessly. Rumor has it he may have even been eating crackers like he owns the place at the time.
 
2014-08-26 02:59:02 PM  
Perspective:
F-35A: US$124.8 million (2013)[6]
F-35B: US$156.8M (2013)[6]
F-35C: US$142.6M (2013)[6]

And just as useless an endeavor.
 
2014-08-26 02:59:26 PM  
A tenure as Speaker of the House unmarred by success.
 
2014-08-26 03:00:29 PM  
I realize there needs to be a petty cash fund in the House, but shouldn't this expenditure be voted on and approved by the other parts of the government that are supposed to be involved in expenditures?  Or is there some budget this is coming out of that normally goes for drafting letters to families who got a post office named after their grandfather?

/I mean just for the photo op Lulz I think the Senate would pass such a measure - the "you have to be god damn kidding me" look on Obama's face would be a priceless image.  Joe could be smirking in the background - because it was a 50/50 tie and he dropped the stinker on Barak.
//Of course the President might just say "Please proceed, Speaker" and sign the thing.
 
2014-08-26 03:00:46 PM  
I feel dirty saying it, but that's not a lot of money.  Courts will routinely approve fees higher than $500/hour depending on experience, and this guy apparently has a lot of experience.
 
2014-08-26 03:01:14 PM  
Fiscal conservatism apparently means lowering taxes at any expense, while spending freely on bogus lawsuits and planes the military doesn't want with no concern with how to pay for them.
 
2014-08-26 03:01:24 PM  

incendi: But he did it so lawlessly. Rumor has it he may have even been eating crackers like he owns the place at the time.


With his dick out.
 
2014-08-26 03:03:59 PM  

OrangeFree: Whatever happened to sovereign immunity?


img.fark.net
 
2014-08-26 03:04:57 PM  

fenianfark: Fiscal conservatism apparently means lowering taxes at any expense, while spending freely on bogus lawsuits and planes the military doesn't want with no concern with how to pay for them.


Oh, don't forget all those tanks sitting out in the desert the Military didn't want, but got anyway...
 
2014-08-26 03:08:56 PM  
So Cheney, Bush, Rice, Powell, Wolfowitz and all the rest are being tried in The Hague, right?  Seeing as how they may have committed war crimes and everything and we need to try them to figure out what happened...right?
 
2014-08-26 03:09:14 PM  

Trivia Jockey: Just remember this every single time the GOP complains about the President or the liberals in Congress wasting your taxpayer dollars.


I don't think there's a conservative alive that would have a problem wasting every penny on any attempts to remove the black guy from office.

Republicans, the GOP, Conservatives, aren't really as fiscally conservative as they would like everyone to believe. I though they were, though that's what set them apart, when i was 17.

now i know better, the issue with taxpayer dollars isn't the expenditure as much as what the expenditure is or who benefits from it.
 
2014-08-26 03:09:42 PM  
Just one small part of their laser-like focus on jobs!
 
2014-08-26 03:10:38 PM  
The fees are capped at $350,000.   It could be as little as $500.   It's inconceivable that the costs would ever overrun the cap.
 
2014-08-26 03:11:11 PM  

keylock71: Ah yes, Fiscal Conservatism at its best.


What I came here to say.

OrangeFree: Whatever happened to sovereign immunity?


Conditionally waived by statute.
 
2014-08-26 03:11:36 PM  
Hell, i'll do it for 500/hour and i'm a Democrat.

i'm not a lawyer, but i'd hire one, pay him 300/hr and keep 200/hr for myself as commission.


then i'd shuffle off 10 thousand to Obama for his troubles.  he'd appreciate it.
 
2014-08-26 03:13:14 PM  

wrs1864: The fees are capped at $350,000.   It could be as little as $500.   It's inconceivable that the costs would ever overrun the cap.



you know what 'capped' means in the government, homie....................??   that means spend everything up to the cap so you'll get the same amount or more next year.

now you're learning.  good boy.
 
2014-08-26 03:14:39 PM  

keylock71: The agreement caps payments at $350,000 through January 2015, and specifies an hourly rate of $500 for the legal work, according to the contract, signed by Rivkin, Miller, and House General Counsel Kerry Kircher.


Ah yes, Fiscal Conservatism at its best.


$500/hr for what will be a partisan dog and pony show? "Good stuff. go get 'em GOP!"

$10.10 minimum wage? "You farking Communists think we're made of money!?!"



there would be no minimum wage if the ReBorglicans had their way. because it interferes with Freedumb.
 
2014-08-26 03:15:18 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-08-26 03:15:22 PM  

keylock71: The agreement caps payments at $350,000 through January 2015, and specifies an hourly rate of $500 for the legal work, according to the contract, signed by Rivkin, Miller, and House General Counsel Kerry Kircher.


Ah yes, Fiscal Conservatism at its best.


$500/hr for what will be a partisan dog and pony show? "Good stuff. go get 'em GOP!"

$10.10 minimum wage? "You farking Communists think we're made of money!?!"


Actually I'm surprised that the lawyer rate is that low for such a high-end issue.  A person getting divorced in a lower-middle class range with kids can expect to pay about that much.
 
2014-08-26 03:16:12 PM  

Linux_Yes: Hell, i'll do it for 500/hour and i'm a Democrat.

i'm not a lawyer, but i'd hire one, pay him 300/hr and keep 200/hr for myself as commission.


then i'd shuffle off 10 thousand to Obama for his troubles.  he'd appreciate it.


That's ok, he's going to give most of the work to his intern at $20/hr
 
2014-08-26 03:16:23 PM  

keylock71: fenianfark: Fiscal conservatism apparently means lowering taxes at any expense, while spending freely on bogus lawsuits and planes the military doesn't want with no concern with how to pay for them.

Oh, don't forget all those tanks sitting out in the desert the Military didn't want, but got anyway...


did you specifically mention tank because of the Boehner? I mean, he is an Ohio Rep AND just so happens that Ohio has a tank manufacturing facility.

just sayin'
 
2014-08-26 03:16:41 PM  

meat0918: John can at least point to one job he's created at least.


Didn't really create it at all. That lawyer wasn't non-existent prior to the suit. That lawyer already had a job, as a lawyer. He probably has other cases coming up and had to choose among many to take on. That sweet deal was just enough of an incentive because it's easy to do (nothing) and a guaranteed $350K paid in monthly installments from now until January.

No, he didn't create a job. He created a temporary welfare recipient.
 
2014-08-26 03:17:57 PM  

EvilEgg: That's ok, he's going to give most of the work to his intern at $20/hr


And that intern had better be DAMN happy to even be paid at all.
 
2014-08-26 03:18:13 PM  
$500/hour with a cap of $350k means the lawyers are capped at 700 man-hours (about 10-12 full man-weeks, if lawyers can be believed about their 60-70 hour work weeks).

Does they really think it'd take anywhere close to 700 man-hours to write a brief that says "Obama sux. We want him impeached, but those evil Demolibs control the Senate so we wouldn't win a removal trial after the House impeached him. Ergo, this lawsuit. Please find in favor of my clients, because reasons. Thank you for your time. Glue is tasty."?
 
2014-08-26 03:19:59 PM  

Isitoveryet: keylock71: fenianfark: Fiscal conservatism apparently means lowering taxes at any expense, while spending freely on bogus lawsuits and planes the military doesn't want with no concern with how to pay for them.

Oh, don't forget all those tanks sitting out in the desert the Military didn't want, but got anyway...

did you specifically mention tank because of the Boehner? I mean, he is an Ohio Rep AND just so happens that Ohio has a tank manufacturing facility.

just sayin'


Heh... Not specifically, but that worked out quite nicely then, didn't it? : )
 
2014-08-26 03:22:02 PM  

Trivia Jockey: heavymetal: I wonder how much of the lawsuit is out of concern for the integrity of the constitutional process


Zero - because the "overreach" they're complaining about in this lawsuit is Obama's order delaying the employer mandate that the GOP was so opposed to.  A completely manufactured controversy.


So he should've done it?
 
2014-08-26 03:26:26 PM  

Dr Dreidel: $500/hour with a cap of $350k means the lawyers are capped at 700 man-hours (about 10-12 full man-weeks, if lawyers can be believed about their 60-70 hour work weeks).

Does they really think it'd take anywhere close to 700 man-hours to write a brief that says "Obama sux. We want him impeached, but those evil Demolibs control the Senate so we wouldn't win a removal trial after the House impeached him. Ergo, this lawsuit. Please find in favor of my clients, because reasons. Thank you for your time. Glue is tasty."?


He has to spend time focus grouping the brief and figuring out what font to use in official documents. Not everybody can know right away that Comic Sans is not appropriate for briefings.
 
2014-08-26 03:33:40 PM  
So just to be clear, the Republicans in Congress are spending $350K in taxpayer money to sue the President for delaying a portion of a law the Republicans in Congress asked the President to delay and also tried to repeal 50 times.

Makes perfect sense!
 
2014-08-26 03:34:03 PM  
If only we had a constitutional scholar in the White House, that would know exactly where the bounds of the Executive Branch operates.
 
2014-08-26 03:36:43 PM  

Dog Welder: So just to be clear, the Republicans in Congress are spending $350K in taxpayer money to sue the President for delaying a portion of a law the Republicans in Congress asked the President to delay and also tried to repeal 50 times.

Makes perfect sense!


Stigginittothelibs!
 
2014-08-26 03:37:13 PM  

Lord_Baull: If only we had a constitutional scholar in the White House, that would know exactly where the bounds of the Executive Branch operates.


Yeah, the President is the ridiculous one in this story.
 
2014-08-26 03:38:16 PM  
Ok, it's ridiculous, but it's conceivable that the President acted outside the scope of his legal authority when he delayed the employer mandate's implementation.

But seriously, Republicans?  THIS is the best you could come up with?  You've been yelling about how dicatorial Obama's been, and the best example you can come up with, is he undertook an action (which you, yourselves would like to take) that, at worst, delays implementation of a law for a short time?
 
2014-08-26 03:38:18 PM  

Dog Welder: So just to be clear, the Republicans in Congress are spending $350K in taxpayer money to sue the President for delaying a portion of a law the Republicans in Congress asked the President to delay and also tried to repeal 50 times.

Makes perfect sense!


that is exactly it.

makes perfect Republican sense.
 
2014-08-26 03:38:49 PM  
They'll have to try harder to match the over $50 million Kenneth Starr blew trying to find something on Clinton.

Yeah, I said 'blew'.
 
2014-08-26 03:39:16 PM  
In the "Memo" field, do we write "Herp", "Derp", or "Benghazi!1!!!"?
 
2014-08-26 03:40:33 PM  

moothemagiccow: So he should've done it?


A what now?  Too many unspecified pronouns here.
 
2014-08-26 03:41:32 PM  

ToastmasterGeneral: Ok, it's ridiculous, but it's conceivable that the President acted outside the scope of his legal authority when he delayed the employer mandate's implementation.



In essence, he's the cop that gave you a warning for speeding, instead of a ticket. But, IPEACH!!
 
2014-08-26 03:42:49 PM  

Isitoveryet: Dog Welder: So just to be clear, the Republicans in Congress are spending $350K in taxpayer money to sue the President for delaying a portion of a law the Republicans in Congress asked the President to delay and also tried to repeal 50 times.

Makes perfect sense!

that is exactly it.

makes perfect Republican sense.



Maybe you'd get it if you were more fiscally responsible, instead of burning money on the middle class.
 
2014-08-26 04:00:11 PM  
In DC this money is chicken feed.  He'll blow through the $350K and issue a report outlining how the case should go forward to justify a higher fee to proceed with the case.
 
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